Episode 8: The Moors Murders and Some Spooky Spaghetti

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Hey, everybody.
And serial killer country.

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My name is Brittany Ransom.
Yeah, my name's Brian Joiner.

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And this is when Killers get
caught a podcasts devoted.

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To deep dives into the lives.
And psyches of the killers.

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We love to learn about each
week.

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We'll discuss something new or
interesting in the serial killer

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world.
Then we'll discuss what?

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Well known or lesser known
killer, and go deep into their

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childhood lives methodology.
And most importantly how they

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got caught.
And then, because most real

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killer fans, love a little bit
of a spook.

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Brian will lead us down the road
of the Paranormal or into

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something.
He found to be particularly

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creepy this week.
We are yet again.

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Discussing the Cecil hotel but
this time some of their

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absolutely ridiculous plans for
reopening this year.

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I will be discussing the Moors
murders after four months of

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people from the UK requesting.
I cover Ian and Ian, Brady, and

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Myra hindley.
And then Brian, like, normal.

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We'll wait, because this is what
he does.

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Yes, I'm going to creep on by
was my topic.

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But this is whole thing.
The thing we want to talk about

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first today is because I came
across an article from The Daily

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Mail and I know they're like not
the most reputable Source, but

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I'm dealing meals pretty good.
I like, I am I confusing them

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with the other one from the UK
that nobody likes?

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Hmm, I'm not sure per day one.
That's like a thing called the

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Sun.
Or is it the star one of them?

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They don't like, but Daily Mail
might be okay but either way.

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So after the Cecil Hotel, Terry
came out about a week and a half

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ago, almost two weeks ago.
Yeah.

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Um, there's been this big
discussion across the country

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and across serial killer
communities about when the Cecil

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was reopening, right?
And so, apparently, it wasn't

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supposed to be reopened will
covid killed everything.

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Covid-19 ruining everybody's
lives.

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I mean they ruined everyone
everything.

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So yeah ruined everyone's lives
bonus facts, just found out

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today.
That America just hit 500,000

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confirmed deaths.
So we're number one hey we don't

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have any new cases so that's
okay.

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Well that's I guess a bonus but
regardless so after the success

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apparently of the documentary
they're trying to push the

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relaunch for 2021.
And so here are some of the

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things that what one if you're
not a big well-known person or

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you don't know a whole lot about
the Cecil.

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It's this 700 bed hotel in the
middle of downtown Los Angeles.

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I think now they're saying it'll
be about 600.

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But yes, a 600 pixels because
two of the floors are being

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converted into low-income
housing.

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Right?
An apartment right?

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It was bought by a luxury hotel.
Yay, Simon Baron development in

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2014 for 30 million, They spent
100 million on it and then they

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only sold it for like 30
million.

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Yeah.
So it was a loss, either way in

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2016, a submitted plans, to LA
City County to refurbish it, and

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to the, you know, apartments and
the hotel rooms, so they closed

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down in 2017, to begin
remodeling.

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Expecting it would take a couple
years, of course, has been a

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delay and Renovations, but
they're going to try and search

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for word because apparently,
thanks the documentary.

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There's interest.
Of course, there's interest.

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The same time.
Goodness gracious.

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I love what it says in this
article there have been at least

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16 deaths at the Cecil since it
opened.

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When the lady in the documentary
definitely said there were 80 in

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just the time that she works
there and that was she said like

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a decade.
Yeah, but regardless, I I

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personally, as soon as I saw
this, I realized we had to talk

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about it, which is that,
apparently, their intention is

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to install 299 in Room mini bars
because that's what we need to

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add to this hotel where people
kill themselves and others.

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Yeah, but also a rooftop bar
which is just chef's kiss.

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The tackiest thing I can think
to do because that is where

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Elisa Lam died on in the water
tank on the roof.

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Like I said, just imagine the
making a drink, they're called

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Elisa Lam is going to be, don't
be a fishbowl.

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I think a fishbowl drink.
Oh yeah, five dollar fish bowl.

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Yeah, it's going to have like
little gummies in there.

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Uploading Sour Patch Kids?
Yeah, to represent that is a

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very La drink, though.
That's a very like, young people

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drink and the stay on man is
like build to be like a trendy

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and touristy like 21 year old
kind of plays and there we go.

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And then we might just have
another murder there.

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Well that's my thought process,
right?

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You like it wasn't exactly like
that.

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The most like there were like
what are you gonna do?

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If you're going to put a bar,
like a bar up there you need to

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have like I don't know, like
8-foot glass walls or something.

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Yeah.
Because someone's going to jump

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off that roof to be like while
intoxicated, they toxicated

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there has to be some way that's
being closed somehow.

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So I didn't notice there's a
teenage mother who lived there,

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she Drew her newborn out the
window as after she gave birth

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to it.
That could be why the windows

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are sealed.
Now they talk, they briefly

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mentioned that After People kept
jumping from the windows, they

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close, they made it so you
couldn't open the windows

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anymore.
Yes, it was in 1944.

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So yeah, I'm going to say yes.
Well, that would be a time

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period.
Where you having a baby was

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horrible?
Head?

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Yeah.
Poor check.

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What happened to her?
Yeah.

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So it's half of the building is
called still called the Cecil,

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the other half is the stay on
me.

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Yes.
So says But yeah.

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So apparently they want to
restore some of the like

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historical areas of the hotel in
the center.

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Going to, they're going to have
a ground floor restaurant in

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there tube in the lobby bar and
I can't believe that you don't

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already have a ground for
restaurant.

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The whole ground floor.
Looks like it a time capsule.

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Yeah.
Straight out of the 1920s like

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still marble and like
chandeliers Honey's there.

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Yeah.
You eat there but you don't want

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to stay there.
No, no.

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That's like you gotta eat the
sketchy places like the sketch,

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you restaurants.
Yeah.

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But see this is it going to be
Sketchy restaurant.

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This is not going to be the
Chinese restaurant where you get

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your food from behind the
bulletproof glass.

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Okay, but which always tastes
amazing.

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By the way, where is located
true?

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It is in a sketchy part of l.a.
It's like it's just because them

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stupidly trying to like put all
of the homeless people in one

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area like they were all cattle.
Yeah, it's terrible.

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Yeah, terrible apparently the
developers last year filed, a

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notice to be Up from the
environment, the California

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Environmental Quality Act.
And I'm like, well that just

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bodes well.
But either way so I just was

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like wow, we're really going
ahead with this whole rooftop

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bar thing, right?
Yeah like that just sounds so

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tacky.
I can't I can't read through it.

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Can't wait to read about what
happens next.

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I just and I you know it's they
have to try and take advantage

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of the fact that the documentary
has been successful.

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But I'm worried it was
successful because it humanized,

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what was essentially an internet
ghost story?

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They really We made Elisa Lam
into a real person because

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definitely, for me, but
definitely for me, she was kind

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of like a weird internet
conspiracy theory Elisa Lam had

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become Bigfoot, the Abominable
Snowman, to me, like this story

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that we were just talking about
old.

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You remember, that?
Girl who died in that hotel and

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they couldn't find her and maybe
a ghost killed her.

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And, like, I forget when I heard
about it was like a couple weeks

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before you even told me about
the documentary because I had

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not Not heard about this at all.
Oh, really.

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I remember when it happened?
Nope, I don't remember.

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I didn't remember.
Oh, I never, I don't think I

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was.
No, I did not.

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It was 2013.
Beginning of 2013.

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What was going on in my life?
Just Chillin.

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I was just having a good time,
honestly.

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Depression.
Oh, you're gonna how very, how

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very Dempsey of you, that was a
good job.

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The answer.
Ha, ha ha ha.

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You are, you are, I just think
it's fun.

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Like, I personally I find that
aspect of the internet

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hilarious.
How, you know, densey can make

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anything into a very dark joke.
I love it.

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I'm here for that kind of
entertainment Amiga do.

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Like the problem is you can't
tell you can't make those jokes

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in public because people I think
something's wrong with you.

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I do it anyway.
Like, one of my co-workers

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younger than me, I think she
would codify is Gen Z.

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Like we were just walking down
the hallway and she tripped over

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something and she was like, oh
my God, I almost died and I just

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cracked up but I'm like, you
can't say that around older

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people?
They think something's wrong

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with you?
No.

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Are you say you're tired about
around a little person?

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Is it's a whole deal.
Like you don't even know which

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hired is, you know what though I
say that to my students like

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they'll be like we're in the
hallway.

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Going to the bathroom, he likes
it on the floor and I'm like, we

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you were They just in your
chair.

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Yeah, I mean this has been 30
seconds.

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How are you tired?
That's the same stuff to my kids

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too.
So I don't have any room to

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talk.
Like we're all daddy were all

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like, oh I need a break.
I'm like a break from what from

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relaxing, break from hanging out
all day at home and terrorizing

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your father, go take your break
and I'll try if they did eat a

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break from like terrorizing you.
Yes, I like oh, that was so much

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Break a little 30 minute break

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Anyway, I thought I said that my
subject this week were the Moors

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murders and I cannot tell you
how many people on Tick, Tock

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have sent me countless messages
and comments on so many videos.

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You don't talk enough about
International serial killers,

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like what, you know what?
I'm going to pick pretty much

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the most.
Well-known worse.

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Ones that I could find you.
Go, there you go.

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That these are so obviously, if
you're a fan, you know about

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them, but I don't know if you
know, Brian, not don't worry.

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Over a series of child
investigate a child

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disappearances between July,
1963, and October of 1965 in and

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around the area.
That's now known as greater.

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Manchester England Victor's,
want all children?

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Ages, 10 to 17.
Oh, yeah.

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Only four of their bodies were
recovered and Like many cases,

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very similar to Karla Karla
Homolka.

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And Paul Bernardo, they were
sexually assaulted the majority

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of them.
One am not going to be heading

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to into those details this
evening.

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It was very difficult for me to
go into a lot of the details

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with the Ken and Barbie killer.
So I'm gonna kind of keep it at

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a, not graphic level.
That's right.

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There you go, we're all ages
show.

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So we try to, but they call them
the Moors murders because all of

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the victims were buried.
On the saddleworth Moor except

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for the last one, but that will
be funny when I get to that one.

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Okay, um, question dumb
question.

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Yes, what to say more?
It's an area.

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It just looks like a big Lush
field and there's also Woods.

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It just looks like a really nice
area.

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It's like grasslands.
Basically this is better water.

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There's no definition of it.
It's essentially consider be

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like an area of open
uncultivated land.

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Just nature.
But there's Woods there, there's

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Rocky areas, especially this
one, the saddleworth Moor.

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Like I looked at some of the
pictures of it.

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It's a huge like, wonderful
National are like, beautiful

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place to go and enjoy things.
Also apparently a good place to

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hide bodies are like, huh.
This is woods and like Open

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Fields.
Basically.

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Yeah.
A lot of that.

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They also have like that peat
moss.

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That good?
That they're like a nice thick.

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I like that movie.
Yeah.

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Almost makes me want to try to
eat it.

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It looks so good.
But yeah.

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It's got lots of beautiful,
like, Rocky areas.

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So many beautiful things but
it's huge.

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We said, we can try and explain
it is, how big are the Moors?

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To explain like because it one
point, it says it is.

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Well, this is 1312 feet above
sea level, but I'd like to know

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square footage.
I never understand sea level.

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So that's okay.
Listen, we are not scientists

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here.
But yeah, so its massive it's

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beautiful people like to go
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Hang out, I saw lots of pictures
of people in the snow having a

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good time but regardless, the
more was, I was like a grassland

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type Place bouquet, say yes.
The couple's committed.

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This crime were Ian, Brady, and
Myra hindley and they had some

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interesting childhood.
So we're gonna break the two of

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them down but and then talk
about, once they meet each other

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and then how that leads into To
their eventual committing of

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crimes.
So mr.

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With Ian Brady, he was born in
Glasgow which we believe is in

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not England.
That is Scotland UK.

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Yes, but he was born in Scotland
and his name of the time was Ian

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Duncan Stewart.
That was January 2nd 1938 to

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Maggie.
Stuart who was an unmarried?

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Great dress.
She was 28 years old, he never

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knew his father, but his mother
told him that if he was a

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reporter for a Glasgow newspaper
who had died several months,

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Before he was born.
There you go.

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That's a good story.
We don't know if it's true, but

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it's nice.
Yeah, Maggie had no support and

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so she gave up her son to
another local couple who had

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four children and they were Mary
and John Sloan.

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So then in becomes Ian flown his
mom visits him while he lives at

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the Sloan family.
So it's not like she wasn't

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allowed to be around him, right?
Just that she didn't have any

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money but he was a pretty
troubled child.

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He started torturing animals at
a very young age.

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We're talking like, pre eight
years old.

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He go sign.
Number one, breaking animals,

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legs setting fire to a dog
decapitating a cat.

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Serious stuff.
Lovely got it.

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So when he was nine, he visited
Loch Lomond lake with his family

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and he discovered that he was
really good at outdoorsy

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activities.
So a couple months later, his

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family moved to an overspill
estate and Pollock, not had to

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Google what this was and
overspill.

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A state is a housing area.
That's created to deal with

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overpopulation.
And this happened, I guess a lot

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during this time, period, I
guess, post-war booms.

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And and childcare, and things of
that nature.

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But when his family moves to
Pollock, he ends up getting

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accepted into this place called
The charlatans Academy, which is

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a school for exceptional
students while he excels

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academically.
He is a very violent child and

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as he gets older, he moves from
hurting animals to hurting other

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children there who are smaller
than he was as a teenager while

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still in sha Allah and he gets
arrested twice for breaking into

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houses.
Then he quit school at 15 and

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begins working as T boy, at
Harlan Wolf, ship our Shipyard

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in Govan.
T boys are like interns who are

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trying to learn the trade but
your most important job is to

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make sure that everyone who
works there.

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Also has t.
Oh nice.

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So that's like how we have
interns here getting coffee but

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they called them T boys.
Which is kind of like a coffee.

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Boy coffee boy.
Real bad boy.

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Go get me a coffee.
Go to Starbucks.

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Give you my double.
Frappuccino, whatever macchiato

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oh gosh, Listen I don't buy from
here so I don't know what to do.

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Yeah, nine months later he quits
that job begins working as a

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butcher at a butcher's
messenger.

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Boy.
He has his girlfriend there.

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Her name is Evelyn Grant but
their relationship ended when he

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threatened her with a knife.
After she went to a dance with

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another guy.
Hey, I'm assuming it was already

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on the way out when she goes to
a dance with another guy, right?

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But it was definitely over when
he threatened to stab her.

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I mean, I mean I mean, I'm gonna
say that's my limit to.

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That could be like a sign for
some women but then we could be

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like another sign that size.
He loves me so much.

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He wants to stab me for looking
at another man that's the sign

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for people who are obsessed with
serial killers people with

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irised affiliate that we talked
about what s episode so many you

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talk about it like twice.
Anyway, he gets arrested again

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but this time there are nine
charges Just him and shortly

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before his 17th birthday, he
gets put on probation on the

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condition that he moves back in.
With his mother who is now

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remarried to an Irish fruit
fruit Merchant and they had

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moved to Manchester England.
He agrees because who wants to

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go to prison, right?
And he takes on his stepfathers

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last name, Brady and stepdad
Pat.

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Brady gets him a job as a fruit
Porter at Smithfield Market.

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Oh no, he's a fruit boy.
Yeah.

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Got it within a year of moving
in, with his mom.

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He gets caught.
Well, the sack foot of lead

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seals which look like little
beads.

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And he was trying to smuggle
them out of the market.

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I don't know why he needed them.
I'm guessing they might have

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been like the thing to seal like
bags or like packages or like

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maybe containers.
I'm like why were you of all the

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things to steal from the market?
Why are you feeling that?

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I looked at pictures of it was
very hard to understand what a

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LED Silas but because he was
still under 18 at the time he

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gets sentenced to two years in a
youth facility and they said

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specifically for training which
If I find is an interesting word

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to say hm, he usually gets sent
to the Hatfield youth facility

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but gets moved to a tougher unit
called Hull because he got

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caught brewing, his own alcohol
and getting drunk.

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Oh very nice.
Once in Hall, he does manage to

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stay out of trouble and he is
released November 14, 1957.

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He returns the Manchester.
He takes a labor job that he

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can't stand and gets fired from
a job at a brewery deciding that

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he wants to give himself, kind
of an upper hand on finding

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work.
He gets his set of instruction

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manuals on bookkeeping from a
Lobel, local library.

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And his parents are very
surprised to see him like,

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buckle down and study.
After just, three months of

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Studying really hard.
He applies for a job, like a

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clerical job.
At Mill, words merchandising

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this wholesale chemical company
based in the city of Gordon and

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he gets the job, which just
tells you that he was a

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relatively smart human being.
Yeah, he's had to apply himself

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his co-workers say that he's a
quiet always on time.

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Very short-tempered and his free
time.

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He reads books such as teacher,
soft, German and mine Kampf as

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As well as works on Nazi
atrocities and yeah something

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that he would find in common
with Myra hindley.

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I don't like the way this is
going around.

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No, no, we getting right into it
now.

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Myra hindley was born, July
23rd, 1942 to Nelly and Bob

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Henley in the working-class city
of Gordon located in Manchester.

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She lived in a small home that
was in such poor quality that

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she and her parents only slept.
Then one bedroom like they had

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their bedroom and she had like a
small twin bed next to theirs on

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the floor.
Things only got worse for them

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financially.
When her younger sister Maureen

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was born in 1946, so, because of
family was so poor and kept

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having children.
They sat Myra to live with her

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grandmother, in a nearby town to
cut down costs, okay?

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Okay, Myra had a really strange
relationship with her father.

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He was a military man.
Who'd fought In North Africa,

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Cyprus in Italy, in World War
Two and he expected his daughter

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to be, as tough as he was.
He insisted, she learn how to

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fight.
Assisted, she stuck up for

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herself at every opportunity.
There's a story that she told

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was when she was 8 years old, a
little boy, scratched her on the

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face, and it was hard enough to
draw blood.

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She ran home, and she's crying.
And her father tells her, you

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have to go back out there and
beat him or I'm gonna he said

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I'm gonna get you with the
leather.

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That's so He's very familiar.
Why do you see that you made

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from your own life?
Oh no.

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It's like, you know, like your
come like like you getting

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bullied at school, right?
And like, you tell your parents

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about, I'm like, okay listen,
you better, whoop, their ass or

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I'm gonna whoop your ass, but
you know what?

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They tell you not to do that
now.

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Yeah, I know it's a it's a, it
was a thing but either way.

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So Myra does as she's told and
she It's the boy down with a

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series of punches.
She wrote about this experience

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as one of her first victories of
Life, which I think is also a

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very weird thing to say that as
like, you know, a young girl,

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her first victory was beating up
a little boy, good for you.

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Yeah.
Who's a professor of forensic?

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Psychology Psychiatry from
Cardiff University.

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His name was Malcolm McCullough
and he wrote that the

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relationship.
Between Myra and her, dad may

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have brutalized her where she
began to expect violence at

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home, and she was expected.
Like she was rewarded for

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violence outside of the home.
He essentially said that that

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distorted her understanding of,
right and wrong.

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It's such a nun age that may
have contributed to her becoming

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a Serial murderer.
Another situation that affect

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admirer was in 1957.
When she was 13, one of her like

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very close friend, invited her
to go swimming.

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At this like old Reservoir and
it wasn't like, June or July in

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the summer, he was her best
friend.

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His name was Michael Higgins and
she declined because she wanted

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to go out with another boy named
Pat and that day, her best

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friend, drowned and Myra blamed
herself for his death, because

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she was a really strong swimmer.
And she figured that if she had

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been there, she would have been
able to save him.

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Wow.
Wow.

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Shortly after that, she started
high school at Writer brow

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secondary school and after her
friend's funeral, she began

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seeking out the Catholic church
and taking lessons from the

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church.
Her father was very

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anti-catholic.
He actually only allowed her

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mother to baptize her as a
Catholic if he didn't send her

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to Catholic school.
What?

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Yeah.
So pretty much, he agreed to

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allow Myra to be baptized.
If the mom agreed that they

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wouldn't send her to Catholic
school because he didn't like

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That he said they only taught
the catechism but she's

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basically, I don't understand
religion like that, but aren't

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you like, basically Catholic at
that point when you're baptized

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as well?
I went to Catholic school and so

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my wine teacher used to talk
about cafeteria Catholics, which

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he said that they just look at
the Bible and they go like I

452
00:25:47,700 --> 00:25:50,700
want that, I don't like that.
Oops, I want that like when

453
00:25:50,700 --> 00:25:52,900
you're at a cafeteria, I'm just
pick and choose.

454
00:25:53,000 --> 00:25:54,900
So if seems like her, dad was
more calm.

455
00:25:55,100 --> 00:25:56,100
Cool.
With that concept.

456
00:25:56,100 --> 00:25:58,200
Like listen, we can all be
baptized but I don't really want

457
00:25:58,200 --> 00:26:01,800
to go to church.
This will only go on New Year's

458
00:26:01,800 --> 00:26:05,400
Eve and Christmas.
You know, people like guys,

459
00:26:05,900 --> 00:26:08,800
yeah, of course, that seems like
the kind of Catholic that her

460
00:26:08,800 --> 00:26:11,000
father was and so her mom
agreed.

461
00:26:11,000 --> 00:26:13,100
She was, like, fine, listen.
I at least want her baptized

462
00:26:13,100 --> 00:26:15,900
just in case, you know, trying
to send her to Heaven.

463
00:26:15,900 --> 00:26:17,400
If something bad happens.
Right.

464
00:26:17,400 --> 00:26:21,400
Of course, but regardless, as
she's now starting secondary

465
00:26:21,400 --> 00:26:23,800
school, they can't really
control what she wants to do.

466
00:26:24,200 --> 00:26:27,800
And she throws herself into
religion after the death of her

467
00:26:27,800 --> 00:26:31,400
friend.
She goes, she gets confirmation.

468
00:26:31,400 --> 00:26:35,600
It receives her first communion,
in 1958, she becomes a godparent

469
00:26:35,600 --> 00:26:38,000
to her friends.
Nephew Anthony.

470
00:26:39,100 --> 00:26:41,000
She also starts bleaching her
hair.

471
00:26:41,900 --> 00:26:43,800
Okay.
And I just wonder if that's

472
00:26:43,800 --> 00:26:46,600
maybe like with most women, we
change our hair whenever we're

473
00:26:46,600 --> 00:26:48,800
going through some stuff.
I mean it's everybody was.

474
00:26:48,800 --> 00:26:50,100
Yeah.
Everybody just has a moment

475
00:26:50,100 --> 00:26:52,300
where you just do that.
Yes.

476
00:26:53,100 --> 00:26:56,200
So her first job, she's a junior
clerk at a local electrical

477
00:26:56,200 --> 00:26:58,800
engineering firm.
She runs errands makes tea.

478
00:26:59,000 --> 00:27:01,100
Types.
She's very well-liked at the

479
00:27:01,100 --> 00:27:04,700
firm enough so that when she
actually lost her first weeks

480
00:27:04,700 --> 00:27:07,900
wage packet, this is before we
had direct deposit, so she

481
00:27:07,900 --> 00:27:09,800
literally lost her first weeks
pay.

482
00:27:10,200 --> 00:27:13,200
The other girls who work there
with her took up a collection to

483
00:27:13,200 --> 00:27:15,300
like, give her money.
Oh, so that's it.

484
00:27:15,300 --> 00:27:17,800
Like she was considered to be
like a very good person.

485
00:27:17,900 --> 00:27:21,100
She's sweet.
She had a short relationship

486
00:27:21,100 --> 00:27:26,200
with a man named Ronnie
Sinclair, Christmas, 1958, and

487
00:27:26,200 --> 00:27:28,500
they got engaged when she was
17.

488
00:27:28,500 --> 00:27:31,600
But she Called it off because
she said he was immature and

489
00:27:31,600 --> 00:27:33,500
unable to provide for a wife,
huh?

490
00:27:33,800 --> 00:27:36,800
But I mean, I would under, I
also think 217 roles are

491
00:27:36,800 --> 00:27:40,600
immature and unprepared to be
married but you're 70 your

492
00:27:40,600 --> 00:27:44,300
children, obviously, nobody's
repair for this, but some people

493
00:27:44,700 --> 00:27:47,300
have done this before per her
dad's wishes.

494
00:27:47,300 --> 00:27:49,900
She continued to take
self-defense classes and

495
00:27:49,900 --> 00:27:53,100
actually took Judo lessons once
a week, but people weren't

496
00:27:53,100 --> 00:27:55,700
willing to train with her
because they said she wouldn't

497
00:27:55,700 --> 00:27:58,300
release her grip when she was
supposed to know.

498
00:27:58,400 --> 00:28:01,200
She was too.
To too excited too aggressive.

499
00:28:01,500 --> 00:28:03,700
She briefly worked for another
engineering company but gets

500
00:28:03,700 --> 00:28:07,600
fired over attendance.
And then in 1961 at 18 years

501
00:28:07,600 --> 00:28:12,400
old, she joins Mill words as a
typist and there she needs and

502
00:28:12,400 --> 00:28:16,800
becomes infatuated with Ian.
Brady gonna laugh at you.

503
00:28:16,800 --> 00:28:20,500
Ation begins so she does feed
other men.

504
00:28:20,500 --> 00:28:23,000
But in her diary she only wrote
about Brady.

505
00:28:23,200 --> 00:28:26,700
She was fascinated by this quiet
man and it was months before she

506
00:28:26,700 --> 00:28:31,100
even spoke to him.
First, finally, in July.

507
00:28:32,400 --> 00:28:34,800
Then in her diary, she starts
writing more and more like

508
00:28:34,800 --> 00:28:37,100
disillusion fantasies about this
relationship.

509
00:28:37,100 --> 00:28:41,100
She wants with him.
Finally, December 22nd 1961.

510
00:28:41,300 --> 00:28:44,500
He asks her out on a date to a
movie about the Nuremberg

511
00:28:44,500 --> 00:28:49,800
trials, right?
What a first date like dismal,

512
00:28:50,000 --> 00:28:53,700
lovely.
Lovely apparently, though, their

513
00:28:53,700 --> 00:28:56,600
dates were a little bit odd,
they go and watch an x-rated

514
00:28:56,600 --> 00:28:59,400
movie.
Go back to Myra's house drink

515
00:28:59,400 --> 00:29:02,100
German wine and started giving
her leg.

516
00:29:02,200 --> 00:29:05,100
Reading materials and they would
spend all their lunch breaks at

517
00:29:05,100 --> 00:29:09,900
work reading about Nazi torture.
Come on let's go she continues

518
00:29:09,900 --> 00:29:13,000
to bleach your hair but she also
starts wearing like bright red

519
00:29:13,000 --> 00:29:15,900
lipstick.
Interestingly enough, at one

520
00:29:15,900 --> 00:29:18,700
point, she writes a letter to a
childhood friend and said that

521
00:29:18,700 --> 00:29:22,600
she thought she had been drugged
by Ian like, in a date rape

522
00:29:22,600 --> 00:29:25,600
situation, probably work.
But she also said that she was

523
00:29:25,600 --> 00:29:29,900
obsessed with him and him.
Assaulting her made her want him

524
00:29:29,900 --> 00:29:31,000
more.
Oh my God.

525
00:29:31,000 --> 00:29:35,900
It's like freaking Freaking Misa
Misa and Light Yagami all over

526
00:29:35,900 --> 00:29:38,000
again.
So after that she asked her

527
00:29:38,000 --> 00:29:42,300
friend to destroy that letter
and I pulled this from.

528
00:29:42,400 --> 00:29:47,200
So one of the first time she
attempted to get parole after

529
00:29:47,200 --> 00:29:52,500
all of this in 1970.
Sure like a 30,000 word letter

530
00:29:52,500 --> 00:29:57,100
to the parole board but there's
one distinctive quote here that

531
00:29:57,100 --> 00:29:59,500
I think explains the mental
state.

532
00:29:59,500 --> 00:30:03,600
She was in a 1969.
So it says, within months he had

533
00:30:03,600 --> 00:30:05,400
me convinced, there was no God
at all.

534
00:30:05,700 --> 00:30:07,500
He could have told me the Earth
was flat.

535
00:30:07,500 --> 00:30:09,900
The moon was made of green
cheese and the sun rose in the

536
00:30:09,900 --> 00:30:11,900
west.
I would have believed him such

537
00:30:11,900 --> 00:30:16,300
was his power of persuasion.
I think it's weird for her to

538
00:30:16,300 --> 00:30:19,600
use that reference to say.
This is why I helped murder five

539
00:30:19,600 --> 00:30:20,700
children.
Exactly.

540
00:30:20,700 --> 00:30:24,100
But I think it is important to
state that she's like 19 years

541
00:30:24,100 --> 00:30:26,400
old and she is completely
obsessed with a slightly older,

542
00:30:26,400 --> 00:30:28,200
man.
Very impressionable.

543
00:30:28,400 --> 00:30:32,500
Mmm, she changes her entire
wardrobe to All to Ian, she

544
00:30:32,500 --> 00:30:35,400
starts wearing sexy things like
knee-high Boots, short skirts,

545
00:30:35,400 --> 00:30:38,700
leather jackets.
They kind of turn inward and

546
00:30:38,700 --> 00:30:40,800
stop being sociable at work at
all.

547
00:30:41,200 --> 00:30:44,500
They spend all their free time
at the local library, taking

548
00:30:44,500 --> 00:30:46,100
out.
Books on philosophy, crime,

549
00:30:46,100 --> 00:30:50,600
torture, they read things by
Marquis, De Sade and Dostoevsky

550
00:30:50,600 --> 00:30:54,500
Crime and Punishment.
Funny enough, I can say, his

551
00:30:54,500 --> 00:31:00,600
last name can't see his first
name, I'm like, field, or I'd

552
00:31:00,600 --> 00:31:02,400
buy know the last name.
Dostoevsky.

553
00:31:02,600 --> 00:31:05,700
So, there you go.
We got jerk.

554
00:31:05,700 --> 00:31:09,500
We got Russian last names down,
no complaining about that.

555
00:31:09,900 --> 00:31:18,100
So during this time period, like
19, Was it 19 like 69 or I see

556
00:31:18,100 --> 00:31:19,300
59.
Oh, gosh.

557
00:31:19,300 --> 00:31:24,400
And I got lost 1969.
You would like rent a van?

558
00:31:24,500 --> 00:31:27,800
And the two of them would like
driving around and talk about

559
00:31:28,000 --> 00:31:31,700
Bank, like robbing banks, they
started visiting local rifle,

560
00:31:31,700 --> 00:31:35,200
ranges with my wrist, friend,
George Kotero.

561
00:31:35,600 --> 00:31:38,700
Kythera was confused as to why
she wanted a gun but he helped

562
00:31:38,700 --> 00:31:42,700
her buy one from a merchant and
Manchester then Myra tried to

563
00:31:42,700 --> 00:31:44,700
join a pistol Club, but she
wasn't a good shot.

564
00:31:44,800 --> 00:31:47,900
Shot and she was kind of angry.
So her friend told her, it

565
00:31:47,900 --> 00:31:49,100
wasn't the hobby for her.
Yeah.

566
00:31:49,100 --> 00:31:52,100
No angry person with a gun.
No, thank you.

567
00:31:52,800 --> 00:31:58,300
She did however, by a Webley 45,
and then a Smith's with a Smith

568
00:31:58,300 --> 00:32:02,900
& Wesson 38.
Yeah, from another member of

569
00:32:02,900 --> 00:32:06,400
that Pistol Club.
So she did have like three guns

570
00:32:06,400 --> 00:32:08,700
even though she wasn't trained
properly in them.

571
00:32:09,600 --> 00:32:11,700
Even though they made all these
plans, they never had the bank.

572
00:32:12,200 --> 00:32:13,900
Strangely enough.
It was just something they were

573
00:32:13,900 --> 00:32:16,800
like obsessed.
Thinking about instead they got

574
00:32:16,800 --> 00:32:20,500
into photography and owned a box
brownie camera, which is this

575
00:32:20,800 --> 00:32:24,700
essentially one of the earlier
portable camera which he used to

576
00:32:24,700 --> 00:32:28,200
take photographs of Myra and her
dog puppet but he upgraded to a

577
00:32:28,208 --> 00:32:31,300
more sophisticated camera and
also purchase lights and

578
00:32:31,300 --> 00:32:34,400
darkroom equipment, and they
started taking photographs of

579
00:32:34,400 --> 00:32:37,800
each other that for the time
would have been considered

580
00:32:37,800 --> 00:32:44,900
explicit naughty pictures.
So see I was right.

581
00:32:44,900 --> 00:32:48,800
I should have said 1959 earlier
sorry because sometimes around

582
00:32:48,800 --> 00:32:54,600
1963 and begins discussing about
committing the perfect murder

583
00:32:55,100 --> 00:32:59,400
and he starts talking a lot
about a book of by Meyer Levin

584
00:32:59,400 --> 00:33:01,400
is called, Meyer lemons,
compulsion.

585
00:33:02,300 --> 00:33:05,400
And this crime is set in the
1920s and it's a fictionalized

586
00:33:05,400 --> 00:33:09,000
account of a real story of
Leopold and Loeb to college

587
00:33:09,000 --> 00:33:10,900
students that kidnap and kill a
12.

588
00:33:10,900 --> 00:33:12,900
Year old boy to prove that they
can get away.

589
00:33:13,000 --> 00:33:16,400
Day with the perfect murder.
Both students are 0 from wealthy

590
00:33:16,400 --> 00:33:19,300
families and escape the death
penalty because of their ages.

591
00:33:19,300 --> 00:33:24,400
So okay, hold on, I'm sorry.
So they go from talking about

592
00:33:24,400 --> 00:33:27,600
Nazi stuff to bank-robbing
stuff.

593
00:33:28,300 --> 00:33:30,100
Then this they switch to
photography.

594
00:33:30,400 --> 00:33:32,600
Now, they're talking about
murdering committing, the

595
00:33:32,600 --> 00:33:34,100
perfect murder.
Awesome.

596
00:33:34,300 --> 00:33:37,400
Well I think all of the the
stuff about torture and crime

597
00:33:37,400 --> 00:33:42,100
and all that I think that this
all part of the the Deep the the

598
00:33:42,100 --> 00:33:44,800
fantasy.
A lot of serial killers have

599
00:33:44,800 --> 00:33:49,700
these deep like seriously like I
don't want to say like enriching

600
00:33:49,700 --> 00:33:55,300
but very real fantasies to them
and they fixate on them for

601
00:33:55,300 --> 00:33:57,800
years before they ever actually
do anything.

602
00:33:57,800 --> 00:33:59,700
Okay?
So I think this is kind of that

603
00:33:59,700 --> 00:34:03,100
time period.
And and Ian Brady thinks that he

604
00:34:03,100 --> 00:34:07,300
has found a kindred soul who
helped him who yeah, and I but

605
00:34:07,300 --> 00:34:11,699
well, he's really found is
someone who is Young and naive

606
00:34:11,699 --> 00:34:13,900
enough to just go along with
Whatever he's doing at this

607
00:34:13,900 --> 00:34:16,800
point, the puppet.
It's funny that her dog is named

608
00:34:16,800 --> 00:34:19,699
puppet because she's the puppet
here for sure.

609
00:34:20,900 --> 00:34:25,199
But June of 1963 Ian moves in
with Myra at her grandmother's

610
00:34:25,199 --> 00:34:30,400
house on Bannock Street.
And on July 12th, 1963, the to

611
00:34:30,400 --> 00:34:34,699
murder their first victim. 16
roll Pauline Reade my renew

612
00:34:34,699 --> 00:34:37,800
Pauline because Polly went to
school with her little sister.

613
00:34:38,699 --> 00:34:41,600
They convinced spoiling to help
them search the saddleworth,

614
00:34:41,600 --> 00:34:43,600
Moor fornix.
Expensive.

615
00:34:43,600 --> 00:34:47,600
Lost glove.
Pauline and Myra went there in a

616
00:34:47,600 --> 00:34:51,000
rented van and Ian arrived later
on his motorcycle.

617
00:34:52,000 --> 00:34:56,199
Now, there's a lot of discussion
about this because this crime,

618
00:34:56,199 --> 00:34:58,500
they didn't even admit to until
the 80s.

619
00:34:58,500 --> 00:34:59,900
No.
Is this, the one they were even

620
00:34:59,900 --> 00:35:04,400
convicted for?
So, Myra says that she just

621
00:35:04,400 --> 00:35:07,300
waited in the van.
Well, Ian and Pauline went into

622
00:35:07,300 --> 00:35:11,100
the more and Aaron returned, 30
minutes later alone.

623
00:35:11,700 --> 00:35:14,500
What are you doing here?
He takes Myra to the spot where

624
00:35:14,500 --> 00:35:19,400
Pauline In is laying dying.
Apparently this attack was so

625
00:35:19,400 --> 00:35:21,900
brutal that she had nearly been
decapitated.

626
00:35:21,900 --> 00:35:25,200
Oh my God.
And then Myra asks, Ian well did

627
00:35:25,200 --> 00:35:27,900
you rape her and he responds, of
course, I did.

628
00:35:27,900 --> 00:35:30,300
Of course I did.
What do you think?

629
00:35:30,300 --> 00:35:32,600
I'm an amateur now?
And just feeling of like I said

630
00:35:32,600 --> 00:35:35,300
they didn't admit to doing this
crime until the 80s when Ian

631
00:35:35,300 --> 00:35:38,000
told this story.
He says that Myra, was there

632
00:35:38,000 --> 00:35:40,900
during the act and she
participated, I'd probably

633
00:35:40,900 --> 00:35:43,400
believe what he said so we'll
never know for sure.

634
00:35:45,100 --> 00:35:49,000
The police looked briefly into
Pauline's ex-boyfriend boy named

635
00:35:49,000 --> 00:35:53,700
David Smith who had three prior
criminal convictions, but no one

636
00:35:53,700 --> 00:35:57,200
had seen her go missing and
there was nobody the 15 year

637
00:35:57,200 --> 00:36:00,100
old.
David is questioned and cleared

638
00:36:00,100 --> 00:36:03,300
of all involvement.
Their next victim is John

639
00:36:03,300 --> 00:36:07,400
Kilbride and that's November
1963 so it's only a couple

640
00:36:07,400 --> 00:36:09,700
months later.
First ones, June second ones

641
00:36:09,700 --> 00:36:10,700
November.
Oh damn.

642
00:36:10,700 --> 00:36:14,100
Okay, John was heading home late
and they offered him a ride home

643
00:36:14,200 --> 00:36:17,900
and I'll Bottle of Sherry to get
into the car that they had

644
00:36:17,900 --> 00:36:20,500
rented.
So, coincidentally here at this

645
00:36:20,500 --> 00:36:22,900
point, every time they are
committing murder, they are also

646
00:36:22,900 --> 00:36:26,200
renting cars.
Oh, that's the and see that

647
00:36:26,200 --> 00:36:29,900
definitely leads to forensic
countermeasure, but this isn't

648
00:36:29,900 --> 00:36:35,900
like that I guess the time
period where you could track no

649
00:36:35,900 --> 00:36:37,800
not really cars and all this
stuff.

650
00:36:37,900 --> 00:36:40,600
This isn't like now where they
take down all this information,

651
00:36:40,600 --> 00:36:42,900
you have to put down some money
and make sure the cars back.

652
00:36:43,000 --> 00:36:46,100
Yeah.
Gas in it, and good.

653
00:36:46,200 --> 00:36:49,300
Wow.
Okay, so they tell this little

654
00:36:49,300 --> 00:36:52,800
boy, John, that they need to
stop by the more to look for a

655
00:36:52,808 --> 00:36:56,000
missing glove and then they just
stopped by their house for the

656
00:36:56,000 --> 00:36:58,200
bottle of Sherry before they
drop them off at home.

657
00:36:58,200 --> 00:37:00,500
I'm gonna guess you want to
change up your story that much

658
00:37:00,600 --> 00:37:04,100
because this new person
especially when it's children.

659
00:37:04,100 --> 00:37:09,300
I know it's like 12 but they, he
was also sexually assaulted and

660
00:37:09,400 --> 00:37:14,400
strangled as well as stabbed.
Yeah, Johnson's appearance.

661
00:37:14,700 --> 00:37:18,600
This is a huge search at this
point now within a five month

662
00:37:18,600 --> 00:37:22,600
period, there are two young
people missing, they interview

663
00:37:22,600 --> 00:37:25,200
over 700 people.
Taking statements, there's

664
00:37:25,200 --> 00:37:28,600
missing posters all over town.
Hundreds of them at the Eighth

665
00:37:28,600 --> 00:37:30,700
Day, Mark that he's missing
2,000.

666
00:37:30,700 --> 00:37:35,200
Volunteers searched every empty
building and area around town

667
00:37:35,200 --> 00:37:39,000
that they think like a child
could have gotten into hmm and

668
00:37:39,200 --> 00:37:42,000
God in stock or lost like
they're not thinking murdered at

669
00:37:42,000 --> 00:37:43,900
this, right?
They just think that he got into

670
00:37:43,900 --> 00:37:46,100
some trouble.
Oh, and he's like locked in a

671
00:37:46,107 --> 00:37:49,600
basement randomly, or, you know,
he fell down a shaft or fell

672
00:37:49,600 --> 00:37:53,400
into a well Dancing to check the
Moors.

673
00:37:53,700 --> 00:37:57,200
Hmm.
Nope, my rented a vehicle after

674
00:37:57,200 --> 00:38:00,900
the search.
And then again, on December 21st

675
00:38:00,900 --> 00:38:05,500
to go back to the burial site
and make sure they had not known

676
00:38:05,500 --> 00:38:07,100
had gone to that.
Are you kidding me?

677
00:38:07,300 --> 00:38:12,100
Absolutely it twice.
So at this point, it's early

678
00:38:12,100 --> 00:38:15,900
1964, she decides to buy a
second-hand car and then she

679
00:38:15,900 --> 00:38:18,400
trades that in for a minivan,
okay?

680
00:38:18,900 --> 00:38:20,600
Which she's going to use very
soon.

681
00:38:21,300 --> 00:38:25,700
June 16 1964, Keith Bennett
disappears, my receipts him

682
00:38:25,700 --> 00:38:29,400
walking down the street, and she
asks him to help her load boxes

683
00:38:29,400 --> 00:38:32,000
into her Minivan.
And then says, she'll drive him

684
00:38:32,000 --> 00:38:35,400
home, they use the missing glove
story again.

685
00:38:37,000 --> 00:38:39,100
It's actually assault him and
strangle him.

686
00:38:39,700 --> 00:38:42,200
His stepfather is the immediate
suspect.

687
00:38:42,200 --> 00:38:45,500
His name is Jimmie Johnson.
And the two years following this

688
00:38:45,500 --> 00:38:47,500
disappearance.
He's brought in four times for

689
00:38:47,500 --> 00:38:49,500
questioning.
You're smiling because I told

690
00:38:49,500 --> 00:38:51,700
you that Jimmie.
Johnson was my favorite, NASCAR

691
00:38:51,700 --> 00:38:53,300
driver for a time.
Yeah.

692
00:38:53,300 --> 00:38:59,800
But when I hear you can get you
thinking a hoagie Jimmy, John's

693
00:39:00,300 --> 00:39:04,700
thinking about a NASCAR racer,
but regardless They bring him in

694
00:39:04,700 --> 00:39:07,900
for years over like four times
over the next two years, the

695
00:39:07,900 --> 00:39:10,500
dad, the stepped out and over
and over and over again.

696
00:39:11,200 --> 00:39:13,900
They searched the house
including under the floorboards.

697
00:39:13,900 --> 00:39:16,800
And then when I discovered that,
the houses are connected.

698
00:39:16,900 --> 00:39:19,300
They extend the search to the
entire Street.

699
00:39:19,400 --> 00:39:22,100
Oh, wow.
Okay, but they never find Keith

700
00:39:22,200 --> 00:39:25,700
and incidentally.
Keith is the only one of these

701
00:39:25,700 --> 00:39:30,800
disappearances who they have
never found as in its 2021 and

702
00:39:30,800 --> 00:39:32,800
they still have not found him to
hook.

703
00:39:33,000 --> 00:39:34,800
I'll give you more Details comes
out at the end.

704
00:39:34,800 --> 00:39:38,200
But yeah, that's the one of the
saddest parts of this story is

705
00:39:38,200 --> 00:39:40,000
that they never recovered this
one child.

706
00:39:40,100 --> 00:39:43,400
Okay?
Mary sister Maureen gets

707
00:39:43,400 --> 00:39:47,200
pregnant 1964 and very hastily
gets married to her boyfriend,

708
00:39:47,500 --> 00:39:51,800
David Smith, the same David
Smith who used to date Pauline

709
00:39:51,800 --> 00:39:56,400
Reade.
Oh yeah.

710
00:39:58,100 --> 00:40:01,000
Myra didn't approve and her
mother was so embarrassed.

711
00:40:01,000 --> 00:40:03,800
She didn't go to the wedding
because Marin was seven months

712
00:40:03,800 --> 00:40:07,000
pregnant, when she got married.
Okay, oh wow.

713
00:40:07,100 --> 00:40:10,900
Oh, that dress, see ya.
What's going to come out?

714
00:40:13,000 --> 00:40:16,300
Well, after the wedding and
suggest that the two couples,

715
00:40:16,300 --> 00:40:19,900
take a four-day trip to Lake
Windermere which is sounds so

716
00:40:19,900 --> 00:40:23,200
nice, doesn't it Windermere?
Yeah, this is the first time

717
00:40:23,200 --> 00:40:26,700
David and Ian had actually met
properly and in was very

718
00:40:26,700 --> 00:40:29,000
impressed.
By the young man, the two talked

719
00:40:29,000 --> 00:40:32,200
about Society redistribution of
wealth.

720
00:40:32,200 --> 00:40:34,200
How great it would be to rob a
bank.

721
00:40:34,200 --> 00:40:35,700
Oh, bank robber.
Yeah.

722
00:40:38,000 --> 00:40:40,800
David was impressed by Ian who
had been buying all of their

723
00:40:40,800 --> 00:40:43,500
food and wine during the trip?
I mean, I would be to like

724
00:40:44,400 --> 00:40:47,400
really yeah, no spend money on.
Let's go buddy.

725
00:40:47,400 --> 00:40:50,400
What it was the first of many
outings for this couple

726
00:40:50,500 --> 00:40:54,400
strangely enough this really
solidified Mira's jealousy of

727
00:40:54,400 --> 00:40:58,100
her sister because Myra wanted
this small A cute family that

728
00:40:58,100 --> 00:41:02,800
they had and even though Myra
was jealous, they did become

729
00:41:02,800 --> 00:41:06,900
closer during this track, okay?
So, and he's 64.

730
00:41:08,300 --> 00:41:12,000
Myra her grandmother and Ian,
get re house as part of post-war

731
00:41:12,000 --> 00:41:15,700
slum clearances in Manchester,
and they move into a different

732
00:41:15,700 --> 00:41:17,700
overspill state called
hattersley.

733
00:41:18,500 --> 00:41:24,400
Both Ian and Myra become friends
with 11 year old girl named

734
00:41:24,400 --> 00:41:26,800
Patricia Hodges.
I saw what you did there,

735
00:41:26,800 --> 00:41:29,900
friends?
Okay, so, I'm just gonna say

736
00:41:29,900 --> 00:41:33,700
this as a disclaimer for a
person who works with children.

737
00:41:35,000 --> 00:41:37,800
I tell all parents, this it It
rings.

738
00:41:37,800 --> 00:41:40,500
So, true in the story.
No adult needs to be friends

739
00:41:40,500 --> 00:41:43,900
with a child.
It is a big old giant red flag.

740
00:41:43,900 --> 00:41:46,600
Yeah, know if an adult wants to
be close.

741
00:41:46,600 --> 00:41:50,600
Personal friends with your kid.
Oh no, no, no, no, no, no, no.

742
00:41:50,800 --> 00:41:53,300
So I will spoiler.
Nothing happens to Patricia.

743
00:41:53,300 --> 00:41:55,700
Thank goodness.
Hey, but I still think this is

744
00:41:55,700 --> 00:41:59,100
something that every parent, or
every person that takes care of,

745
00:41:59,100 --> 00:42:02,100
a child should know, do not let
grown adults.

746
00:42:02,100 --> 00:42:04,200
Be friends with your kids, white
wire hanging white right hand.

747
00:42:04,200 --> 00:42:07,200
When my kid exactly, what you
got Pokemon cards, let me see.

748
00:42:07,400 --> 00:42:10,700
See him.
Yeah, it was your book about

749
00:42:10,700 --> 00:42:13,500
Gardner Charizard and get that
anyway.

750
00:42:15,800 --> 00:42:20,000
So, with Patricia, the three go
trips to the saddleworth, Moor

751
00:42:20,000 --> 00:42:23,100
to collect Pete, something that
a lot of the renter's were doing

752
00:42:23,100 --> 00:42:26,300
on this estate to approve their
soil, and their Gardens, because

753
00:42:26,300 --> 00:42:29,200
the soil was full of clay and
like rubble from Builders.

754
00:42:30,000 --> 00:42:31,800
So it was pretty normal for them
to go there.

755
00:42:32,500 --> 00:42:36,000
Patricia does remain unharmed
mainly because she only lived a

756
00:42:36,008 --> 00:42:38,300
few doors away from them.
That's what I think.

757
00:42:38,300 --> 00:42:41,800
So, I think that she was too
close and they would have known

758
00:42:41,900 --> 00:42:44,800
and he would have searched their
property to be exact Ali and

759
00:42:44,800 --> 00:42:46,400
they probably would have found
more bodies their problem.

760
00:42:46,500 --> 00:42:50,100
So, early morning on boxing day
in 1964 and so I have to give

761
00:42:50,100 --> 00:42:54,300
this explanation because it's
isn't a Canadian holiday know,

762
00:42:54,300 --> 00:42:57,700
okay, it's European.
So, boxing day is the day right

763
00:42:57,700 --> 00:43:00,800
after Christmas in the UK and it
used to be a day where you gave

764
00:43:00,800 --> 00:43:02,700
gifts to the poor.
But now it's like Black Friday

765
00:43:02,700 --> 00:43:04,800
in America, huge shopping
holiday.

766
00:43:05,900 --> 00:43:10,400
I could not find any explanation
any full explanation on the

767
00:43:10,400 --> 00:43:13,100
name, though.
Why is it called boxing day?

768
00:43:13,100 --> 00:43:14,900
Because you're getting your box.
Okay.

769
00:43:14,900 --> 00:43:17,500
Maybe not a gift in a bug.
I'm pretty sure it's a Canadian.

770
00:43:17,500 --> 00:43:20,000
Holy to.
I mean, it could just be not an

771
00:43:20,000 --> 00:43:22,000
American.
Yeah, as probably, but I know

772
00:43:22,000 --> 00:43:24,200
it's big in.
Europe is probably what it is.

773
00:43:24,200 --> 00:43:30,800
Yeah, so it's Boxing Day, 1964.
Myra just goes to like, I guess

774
00:43:30,800 --> 00:43:33,600
during Christmas time, she had
gone to visit her family,

775
00:43:33,600 --> 00:43:36,500
extended family, and she leaves
her grandmother with her

776
00:43:36,500 --> 00:43:40,500
extended, family, and refuses to
pick her back up and it's just

777
00:43:40,500 --> 00:43:43,700
like, I'll come, get you
tomorrow and never know.

778
00:43:43,800 --> 00:43:46,800
Mmm.
Coincidentally. 10 year-old

779
00:43:46,800 --> 00:43:52,300
Leslie and Downey disappears
from a funfair in an cots and

780
00:43:52,300 --> 00:43:55,800
coats the same day.
Oh, very nice!

781
00:43:55,800 --> 00:43:59,300
How coincidental at the funfair?
They noticed a little girl was

782
00:43:59,300 --> 00:44:02,800
alone and Myra dropped her
shopping that she was carrying

783
00:44:03,100 --> 00:44:05,900
Leslie, stop to help her and
help her take it to the car.

784
00:44:06,200 --> 00:44:11,400
Both an admirer claim that the
other killed Leslie regardless.

785
00:44:13,000 --> 00:44:17,000
Her nude body was taken to the
more and buried there and her

786
00:44:17,000 --> 00:44:19,500
clothes were buried at her feet
bizarrely.

787
00:44:20,300 --> 00:44:22,800
Just like, last time it was a
massive search.

788
00:44:23,100 --> 00:44:26,600
You'll find out what exactly
they did to her later on.

789
00:44:26,600 --> 00:44:27,900
What am I going to details?
Now?

790
00:44:28,200 --> 00:44:31,300
Lovely, but there's a huge
search.

791
00:44:31,300 --> 00:44:34,500
They find no traces of her and
the following day my tree brings

792
00:44:34,500 --> 00:44:38,100
a grandmother home, okay?
This you picture of yeah he did

793
00:44:38,100 --> 00:44:40,100
pick her up but she didn't pick
her up because she wanted to

794
00:44:40,107 --> 00:44:42,400
kill a girl or house.
Yeah.

795
00:44:42,400 --> 00:44:49,200
I mean Awful terrible.
So by February 2065, Patricia

796
00:44:49,200 --> 00:44:52,800
had stopped visiting them,
thankfully but David Smith had

797
00:44:52,800 --> 00:44:57,300
become a regular visitor, Brady
gave Smith books to read and the

798
00:44:57,300 --> 00:44:59,400
two discussed robbery and
murder.

799
00:44:59,500 --> 00:45:04,100
Hmm, another robbery person.
Mmm on Mary's 23rd birthday.

800
00:45:04,100 --> 00:45:08,300
Her brother and sister-in-law
who had until then been living

801
00:45:08,300 --> 00:45:12,600
with relatives, got rehoused to
Underwood Port, which was about

802
00:45:12,700 --> 00:45:17,700
About a block away from where in
Amarillo were living.

803
00:45:17,800 --> 00:45:19,200
Just sounds like a pat tune to
me.

804
00:45:20,400 --> 00:45:22,800
What's it sound like a patsy?
I don't know.

805
00:45:22,800 --> 00:45:25,200
We'll see.
The two couples began to see

806
00:45:25,200 --> 00:45:28,400
each other more regularly, but
it was only based on Brady's

807
00:45:28,400 --> 00:45:31,000
terms.
The only one to see them when he

808
00:45:31,000 --> 00:45:32,700
wanted to see them.
Okay.

809
00:45:32,700 --> 00:45:37,200
Yeah, I mean I got murdered to
do so, you gotta go schedule is

810
00:45:37,200 --> 00:45:39,600
like a week in advance, buddy.
I got murdering to do today.

811
00:45:39,600 --> 00:45:42,600
So, how about next week, next
week Friday?

812
00:45:42,700 --> 00:45:46,700
Okay, that works well October,
6. 1965 Myra drives to

813
00:45:46,700 --> 00:45:49,500
Manchester Central Railway
Station where she waits and

814
00:45:49,500 --> 00:45:53,000
selects the victim.
After a few minutes.

815
00:45:55,300 --> 00:45:57,400
They see a boy because he's 17
years old.

816
00:45:57,400 --> 00:46:01,500
His name is Edward Evans.
He's an apprentice engineer

817
00:46:01,500 --> 00:46:05,000
living in the city of ardwick,
and they drive to Meyer and Ians

818
00:46:05,000 --> 00:46:09,100
house and decide to relax over a
bottle of wine, okay?

819
00:46:10,100 --> 00:46:12,800
No ear tells Myra to go get her
brother-in-law.

820
00:46:13,500 --> 00:46:15,900
It's about a block away.
Remember, now, I mentioned

821
00:46:15,900 --> 00:46:19,500
earlier, that David Smith had a
criminal history, he'd had three

822
00:46:19,500 --> 00:46:23,600
different previous previous
convictions, and two of them

823
00:46:23,600 --> 00:46:25,600
were physically like viola.
Okay.

824
00:46:25,600 --> 00:46:28,100
When was breaking and entering
and then hurting someone when he

825
00:46:28,100 --> 00:46:31,300
did that.
My thought process here is that

826
00:46:31,300 --> 00:46:35,000
Ian is thinking he's meeting
another person like him and so

827
00:46:35,000 --> 00:46:39,900
he's trying to bring this guy in
and those are person who is open

828
00:46:39,900 --> 00:46:43,800
to murdering hmm.
Now David was in awe of ear and

829
00:46:43,800 --> 00:46:47,300
this really worried Myra because
she thought that Ian was going

830
00:46:47,300 --> 00:46:49,800
to start talking about the stuff
that they had been doing over

831
00:46:49,800 --> 00:46:50,600
the last.
Yeah.

832
00:46:50,600 --> 00:46:53,100
And like Let Us slip and
probably try to replace her.

833
00:46:53,400 --> 00:46:56,900
I'm going to say that Mira's
worry was not wrong.

834
00:46:57,900 --> 00:47:01,000
Because she came back in and was
just like, tell him to wait

835
00:47:01,000 --> 00:47:03,500
outside and wait for a signal
for my flashlight.

836
00:47:03,900 --> 00:47:07,300
The signal comes Indian, meets
him at the door and asks if he's

837
00:47:07,300 --> 00:47:10,900
come for the miniature wine
bottles, which is weird because

838
00:47:10,900 --> 00:47:14,000
like I'm sure David was like no
I came because you told me to

839
00:47:14,000 --> 00:47:15,500
come with mean for the wine
bottle.

840
00:47:15,500 --> 00:47:19,000
He's cold to come in or is like
a little rate pretty and take

841
00:47:19,000 --> 00:47:21,000
them into the kitchen to go and
collect the wine.

842
00:47:21,400 --> 00:47:24,800
So I feel like the best way to
explain this was this is direct

843
00:47:24,800 --> 00:47:27,400
like what David told the police.
Nice.

844
00:47:27,400 --> 00:47:30,800
When he made his statement, he
said I wait about a minute or

845
00:47:30,800 --> 00:47:33,500
two and then suddenly I heard I
have one hell of a scream.

846
00:47:33,800 --> 00:47:36,700
It sounded like a woman really
high-pitched then the screams

847
00:47:36,700 --> 00:47:40,000
carried on one after another
really loud then I heard Myra

848
00:47:40,000 --> 00:47:43,500
shout Dave help him very loud
when I ran in.

849
00:47:43,500 --> 00:47:47,000
I just didn't said living room
and I saw a young lad, he was

850
00:47:47,000 --> 00:47:48,900
lying with his head and
shoulders on the couch and his

851
00:47:48,900 --> 00:47:51,600
legs were on the floor.
He was facing upward.

852
00:47:51,900 --> 00:47:54,400
Ian was standing over him facing
him with his legs on.

853
00:47:54,400 --> 00:47:58,900
Either of the young Lads Lads,
the lab was Ian had a hatchet in

854
00:47:58,908 --> 00:48:01,200
his hand.
He was holding it above his head

855
00:48:01,200 --> 00:48:03,800
and he hit the lad on the left
side of his head with the

856
00:48:03,808 --> 00:48:05,700
hatchet.
I heard the blow.

857
00:48:05,900 --> 00:48:08,600
It was a terrible hard.
Blow it sounded Hollow.

858
00:48:09,000 --> 00:48:12,800
Oh my God.
Smith then watched as Ian hit

859
00:48:12,800 --> 00:48:16,500
Edward as Evans with an
electrical cord, he strangled

860
00:48:16,500 --> 00:48:17,300
them.
Hmm.

861
00:48:17,800 --> 00:48:21,900
Brady then asked Smith to help
him carry the body to the car

862
00:48:22,700 --> 00:48:25,100
and the two of them tried.
But Ian sprained his ankle

863
00:48:25,100 --> 00:48:28,600
because this is a almost grown.
Adult human being at this point,

864
00:48:28,600 --> 00:48:30,400
you're right, you're trying to
carry.

865
00:48:30,800 --> 00:48:32,700
So they wrap them up in a
plastic sheet and put them in

866
00:48:32,700 --> 00:48:37,600
the spare bedroom, okay?
So then Smith says, all right,

867
00:48:37,600 --> 00:48:40,200
I'm gonna go home.
I'm gonna try and I'm gonna

868
00:48:40,200 --> 00:48:45,900
bring my babies pram AKA
stroller to help dispose of this

869
00:48:45,900 --> 00:48:50,100
in the morning he goes home.
It's about 3:00 a.m. he asks his

870
00:48:50,100 --> 00:48:53,800
wife to make him some tea then
he drinks it vomits.

871
00:48:53,800 --> 00:48:55,900
And proceeds to tell her
everything that just happened

872
00:48:56,400 --> 00:49:01,000
like a good.
As I would do oh my God at 6:10

873
00:49:01,000 --> 00:49:05,100
a.m. armed with a screwdriver
and a bread knife as protection.

874
00:49:05,100 --> 00:49:08,200
Just in case he were to see Ian
Brady outside.

875
00:49:08,400 --> 00:49:13,400
He goes to a public phone box
and calls the police, and the

876
00:49:13,400 --> 00:49:16,600
police pick him up at that phone
booth and take him to the

877
00:49:16,600 --> 00:49:18,400
station where he gives his
statement.

878
00:49:19,100 --> 00:49:23,100
Okay, go, he tells immediately
within six hours, he tells to

879
00:49:23,100 --> 00:49:27,100
come as I same person should do
as any sane person.

880
00:49:27,200 --> 00:49:31,700
And should do so superintendent,
Bob Talbot, and another

881
00:49:31,700 --> 00:49:33,600
detective agent.
Listen.

882
00:49:33,600 --> 00:49:37,000
And then they go to Ian and
Mira's home and they ask Myra,

883
00:49:37,000 --> 00:49:39,500
is your husband home.
She tells him, I don't have a

884
00:49:39,500 --> 00:49:41,200
husband, I don't live with any
man.

885
00:49:41,700 --> 00:49:45,100
Be, you are lying.
So that's the moment where he

886
00:49:45,100 --> 00:49:48,900
tells her, I'm a police officer
and there's been a report of

887
00:49:48,900 --> 00:49:51,700
violence here last night and
we're investigating.

888
00:49:52,200 --> 00:49:54,800
So Myra denies it.
But she's like, whatever, and

889
00:49:54,800 --> 00:49:56,900
she allows the police to come in
and look around.

890
00:49:57,300 --> 00:49:59,600
Now, this is how you just know
that people know, that they're

891
00:49:59,600 --> 00:50:03,100
in too deep.
The she allows the police to go

892
00:50:03,100 --> 00:50:05,200
everywhere in the house,
everything.

893
00:50:05,200 --> 00:50:06,000
So she did.
She do.

894
00:50:06,000 --> 00:50:09,300
She couldn't get caught.
It's except except for the spare

895
00:50:09,300 --> 00:50:13,600
bedroom, which is locked.
Why not let me go in there?

896
00:50:13,600 --> 00:50:16,000
Why is it locked?
Open the door up for me.

897
00:50:16,400 --> 00:50:19,600
So, at this point, they get
inside Ian's in the house.

898
00:50:19,600 --> 00:50:22,400
So they're like.
Okay, so there is a man here and

899
00:50:22,400 --> 00:50:25,200
so they're like she's like well
I don't have the key, I lost the

900
00:50:25,207 --> 00:50:27,100
one key of the other spares at
my job.

901
00:50:27,500 --> 00:50:31,000
And so, the police officers,
like, well, I'll take you to

902
00:50:31,000 --> 00:50:33,600
your job and finally, and just
goes, let them.

903
00:50:34,100 --> 00:50:37,200
Oh, give him the key.
He's like we're, he's like we

904
00:50:37,200 --> 00:50:40,200
recall this time.
Yeah, let's go.

905
00:50:41,400 --> 00:50:45,100
So the police unlock the guest
room and then they walked back

906
00:50:45,100 --> 00:50:46,600
into the living room and they
arrest.

907
00:50:46,600 --> 00:50:48,300
Ian Brady on suspicion of
murder.

908
00:50:48,500 --> 00:50:53,000
Hmm Brady says as he's leaving
Eddie and I had a row and the

909
00:50:53,000 --> 00:50:56,900
situation just got out of hand.
Oh is that what happened wrecked

910
00:50:56,900 --> 00:50:59,400
quote?
Oh you got in a row with a 17

911
00:50:59,400 --> 00:51:00,800
year old?
Okay got it.

912
00:51:00,800 --> 00:51:03,400
Now while Myra wasn't arrested,
she demanded to go to the

913
00:51:03,408 --> 00:51:06,500
station but she refused to make
a statement to the police.

914
00:51:06,700 --> 00:51:13,300
Just saying it was an accident.
They allow her to leave And

915
00:51:14,000 --> 00:51:20,000
let's see, this was so this
happened, October 6, October

916
00:51:20,000 --> 00:51:25,100
11th Myra gets arrested for
accessory to murder for every

917
00:51:25,100 --> 00:51:27,600
Evan.
So thank you so much for only a

918
00:51:27,600 --> 00:51:30,000
couple days while they do some
investigating.

919
00:51:30,000 --> 00:51:32,800
I wouldn't I want to wrestle her
right there because she's she

920
00:51:32,800 --> 00:51:37,800
damn, she lied to me about not
having his face like to my face.

921
00:51:38,300 --> 00:51:41,100
Anyway, listen in front of my
salad.

922
00:51:41,200 --> 00:51:45,800
Mmm.
So, police searched the home and

923
00:51:45,800 --> 00:51:49,600
they found an exercise book with
John kill Brides name in it,

924
00:51:49,800 --> 00:51:52,500
which immediately makes him
suspicious that.

925
00:51:52,500 --> 00:51:54,900
They must have been involved in
the other disappearances.

926
00:51:54,900 --> 00:51:57,000
Uh-huh.
Brady, maintains the lie that

927
00:51:57,000 --> 00:52:00,500
the two of them have fought
while drinking but then he tells

928
00:52:00,500 --> 00:52:04,500
the police that it was David
Smith that killed him.

929
00:52:04,900 --> 00:52:08,800
And Myra was just doing what she
was told when she lied to you.

930
00:52:09,000 --> 00:52:12,900
So I killed somebody at your
house and hid them in Your

931
00:52:12,900 --> 00:52:15,500
house.
But now here's this is why I

932
00:52:15,500 --> 00:52:18,600
love Smith.
So Smith says like listen, he's

933
00:52:18,600 --> 00:52:22,700
cagey and he's like, super
underhanded and he's obsessed

934
00:52:22,700 --> 00:52:25,200
with train stations.
So if you want to find something

935
00:52:25,200 --> 00:52:31,200
about him, you should probably
look there, the police go to the

936
00:52:31,200 --> 00:52:35,400
local, Manchester James, the
train station, and they look for

937
00:52:35,400 --> 00:52:39,700
all unclaimed luggage, and they
find that there is like a series

938
00:52:39,700 --> 00:52:43,600
of unclaimed luggage and the The
ticket for that.

939
00:52:43,600 --> 00:52:48,200
Luggage was in Mira's purse.
Oh, it said she's arrested.

940
00:52:48,200 --> 00:52:51,400
They have her stuff so they just
take it and they grab it.

941
00:52:52,300 --> 00:52:55,800
So when they open up the
suitcase, they find a series of

942
00:52:55,800 --> 00:53:00,500
pornographic images of Lesley
and Downey mind you.

943
00:53:00,500 --> 00:53:06,200
She was 10 years old as well as
a 16 minute video of her coming

944
00:53:06,500 --> 00:53:10,300
crying and begging to be allowed
to leave her mother to go home.

945
00:53:10,600 --> 00:53:14,600
Come on her mom later came, and
confirmed the police.

946
00:53:14,600 --> 00:53:16,900
That that was her daughter.
Oh God.

947
00:53:16,900 --> 00:53:18,600
Yeah.
So we have, they have a

948
00:53:18,600 --> 00:53:22,300
60-minute tape of.
Literally the last Minutes of

949
00:53:22,300 --> 00:53:27,100
this child's life in all of
those photographs as well.

950
00:53:27,100 --> 00:53:30,500
In the luggage were pictures of
the Moor.

951
00:53:31,100 --> 00:53:33,300
And when they interviewed
Patricia Hodge has because they

952
00:53:33,300 --> 00:53:35,600
interview people, run a
neighborhood, she told them, she

953
00:53:35,600 --> 00:53:39,500
used to go with them to the more
so they began to appeal to the

954
00:53:39,500 --> 00:53:42,800
local people in Manchester and
say, do you know where these

955
00:53:42,800 --> 00:53:45,200
locations are right?
Like, there has to be some

956
00:53:45,200 --> 00:53:48,200
significance to him.
Why is he just taking random

957
00:53:48,500 --> 00:53:53,300
pictures of like All around, all
these pictures of the Moor.

958
00:53:53,300 --> 00:53:55,700
Yeah, places.
He might want to revisit one

959
00:53:55,700 --> 00:53:57,500
day.
So after some time, they're able

960
00:53:57,500 --> 00:54:01,000
to locate one of the locations
in the pictures October 21st,

961
00:54:01,000 --> 00:54:05,500
1965 they find the badly,
decomposed body of Kilbride,

962
00:54:06,200 --> 00:54:09,200
which was only identifiable by
its clothing.

963
00:54:09,900 --> 00:54:13,500
That same day, both Ian and Myra
appeared at the hide magistrate

964
00:54:13,500 --> 00:54:16,400
court and were charged with
Leslie and Downey's murder.

965
00:54:17,300 --> 00:54:20,400
They were suspected of murdering
all the children but it was

966
00:54:20,400 --> 00:54:23,200
November.
Now, and they were worried about

967
00:54:23,200 --> 00:54:26,400
the fact that the ground was
getting harder and they weren't

968
00:54:26,400 --> 00:54:29,400
going to be able to do the kind
of digging, they needed to find

969
00:54:29,700 --> 00:54:30,800
and look through all the
pictures.

970
00:54:30,800 --> 00:54:31,300
Right.
Right.

971
00:54:31,300 --> 00:54:33,500
But it didn't matter.
December 2nd, Ian is charged

972
00:54:33,500 --> 00:54:36,500
with the murders of Evans.
Kill Braden Downey Myra with

973
00:54:36,500 --> 00:54:41,700
Evans and Downey and also Myra
is being charged with

974
00:54:41,800 --> 00:54:47,400
essentially having information
about a murder and that's that's

975
00:54:47,400 --> 00:54:50,800
her issue with Kilbride.
She's a conspiracy, okay.

976
00:54:50,900 --> 00:54:54,100
Okay, essentially, that she knew
Ian did it but she didn't say

977
00:54:54,100 --> 00:54:58,600
anything right trial is set for
April, 19th 1966.

978
00:55:00,400 --> 00:55:06,400
This trial last for 14 days and
because of how upset the

979
00:55:06,400 --> 00:55:12,600
community was, they use screens
to try to protect the identity

980
00:55:12,600 --> 00:55:16,700
of being and Myra from the
public really like people were

981
00:55:16,700 --> 00:55:20,400
out for blood when we people
want it but this is the same

982
00:55:20,400 --> 00:55:22,800
thing that happened with the one
that I talked about on Tick-Tock

983
00:55:22,800 --> 00:55:25,100
with the two ten-year-olds, who
killed the four year old boy in

984
00:55:25,100 --> 00:55:26,100
England.
All right.

985
00:55:26,100 --> 00:55:26,300
Right?
Right.

986
00:55:26,300 --> 00:55:29,500
Yeah.
Like people got so angry.

987
00:55:29,500 --> 00:55:32,800
They wanted to Murder, those
murder.

988
00:55:32,800 --> 00:55:35,800
The murderer.
I mean, that's understandable.

989
00:55:35,800 --> 00:55:39,500
But like, that's like, like,
with Kurt current you and do

990
00:55:39,500 --> 00:55:42,700
that nowadays, like people, see
their faces in the news.

991
00:55:42,900 --> 00:55:44,800
Yeah.
Now, we put the names of people

992
00:55:44,800 --> 00:55:49,800
write in the newspapers, but
this this like this, even this

993
00:55:49,800 --> 00:55:53,600
attempt didn't help everybody
related to them in the end

994
00:55:53,600 --> 00:55:58,000
struggle because of what they
did during the both of them

995
00:55:58,000 --> 00:56:00,600
enter pleas of not guilty, just
the audacity A city.

996
00:56:00,600 --> 00:56:04,800
Like we really have a video, we
have audio of you, we can hear

997
00:56:04,800 --> 00:56:06,200
you.
But regardless we found a dead

998
00:56:06,200 --> 00:56:10,700
body in your house true and
testified for over eight hours

999
00:56:10,700 --> 00:56:14,700
and Myra 46, and admits to
hitting Evans with an axe.

1000
00:56:14,900 --> 00:56:18,000
But claims that that was not to
hit that killed him and he was

1001
00:56:18,000 --> 00:56:20,700
still alive, and somebody else
must have finished him off.

1002
00:56:20,800 --> 00:56:23,500
Oh, so hitting, someone would
have asked us to kill them.

1003
00:56:23,500 --> 00:56:25,300
Well, here's the thing.
So, here's what he said.

1004
00:56:25,500 --> 00:56:29,600
So, his defense said that the
pathologist's report said that

1005
00:56:29,600 --> 00:56:32,900
his death Been accelerated by
strangulation.

1006
00:56:33,400 --> 00:56:37,600
And so Ian's on this Dan going,
see I told you the accident, do

1007
00:56:37,600 --> 00:56:39,200
it.
Yeah you strangled him after you

1008
00:56:39,207 --> 00:56:41,800
hit him with the right thing.
He sang somebody else must have

1009
00:56:41,800 --> 00:56:43,400
strangled him know.
He didn't do it.

1010
00:56:43,400 --> 00:56:48,200
No nose and it's definitely not
Myra and it's definitely

1011
00:56:48,200 --> 00:56:52,000
probably David is what he's
insinuating here, but the police

1012
00:56:52,000 --> 00:56:54,200
are like listen.
David Smith is not on trial

1013
00:56:54,200 --> 00:56:59,000
you're on trial but regardless
he comes off, extremely arrogant

1014
00:56:59,000 --> 00:57:01,400
and it does nothing.
Thing to help his case.

1015
00:57:01,400 --> 00:57:05,100
The jury does not like him.
I wouldn't even really just get

1016
00:57:05,100 --> 00:57:10,000
them all the get out of here,
the 16-minute take Downey, like

1017
00:57:10,000 --> 00:57:13,900
the 60-minute tape of Downey
screaming is played in court,

1018
00:57:13,900 --> 00:57:15,600
not the visual but just the
audio.

1019
00:57:16,200 --> 00:57:21,200
Both and Myra are heard on the
tape Myra says that the only

1020
00:57:21,200 --> 00:57:24,000
reason why she was so Brusque
and rude to Downey was due to

1021
00:57:24,000 --> 00:57:27,100
the screaming and that she just
wanted her to like be quiet.

1022
00:57:27,800 --> 00:57:31,600
So, she also said, when Danny
was being undressed, forcibly,

1023
00:57:31,600 --> 00:57:34,200
for those pictures, she was
downstairs.

1024
00:57:34,200 --> 00:57:39,000
Looking out the window when
Daddy was being killed.

1025
00:57:39,000 --> 00:57:43,100
She was upstairs drawing a bath,
so she couldn't hear anything.

1026
00:57:43,100 --> 00:57:47,300
Oh, I'm sure.
I love your lies.

1027
00:57:47,300 --> 00:57:48,700
Some of your Bridge Somewhere in
Brooklyn.

1028
00:57:48,700 --> 00:57:52,800
He also claimed, she had no idea
that Ian had taken pictures of

1029
00:57:52,800 --> 00:57:59,300
these burial sites.
Okay, so I'm a sex 1965 after

1030
00:57:59,300 --> 00:58:04,000
lib deliberating for two hours.
The jury finds them guilty of

1031
00:58:04,000 --> 00:58:06,300
all charges.
Of course.

1032
00:58:06,800 --> 00:58:10,700
Now the death penalty had just
been abolished while they were.

1033
00:58:11,500 --> 00:58:14,800
So the only acceptable sentence
was life in prison, Brady was

1034
00:58:14,800 --> 00:58:18,300
given three concurrent life
sentences and hindley 2 plus an

1035
00:58:18,300 --> 00:58:21,800
additional seven years for her
knowledge of Kilbride murdering

1036
00:58:21,800 --> 00:58:28,300
and harboring a murderer, right?
So a lot of time passes, they

1037
00:58:28,300 --> 00:58:31,900
both go to jail.
Even has a rough time of it.

1038
00:58:31,900 --> 00:58:34,800
As you would expect.
Honestly, anybody who harms

1039
00:58:34,800 --> 00:58:37,800
children or commits a sexual
assault, has a hard time in

1040
00:58:37,800 --> 00:58:39,400
prison.
Probably.

1041
00:58:39,500 --> 00:58:42,000
Yeah.
And I'm glad about this like

1042
00:58:42,100 --> 00:58:44,700
yeah who's really bothered by
the fact that people gave him a

1043
00:58:44,700 --> 00:58:50,200
hard time in jail.
Nobody a but 1985 and tells a

1044
00:58:50,207 --> 00:58:54,000
journalist that he killed Polly
read and Keith Bennett.

1045
00:58:55,300 --> 00:58:58,900
And the police stopped by his
prison to speak to him.

1046
00:58:59,200 --> 00:59:03,100
And he is very like, angry and
agitated.

1047
00:59:03,200 --> 00:59:05,300
It's like I didn't say anything
like that.

1048
00:59:05,400 --> 00:59:07,500
Why are you here?
I didn't just confessed to a

1049
00:59:07,500 --> 00:59:12,100
murder state, any new murders?
So the police decide to start

1050
00:59:12,100 --> 00:59:14,300
searching the Moors using the
photographs.

1051
00:59:14,300 --> 00:59:18,300
Again, if it's 20 years later,
Keith Bennett's mom.

1052
00:59:18,300 --> 00:59:23,600
Writes this heartbreaking letter
to Myra and November of 1986

1053
00:59:24,000 --> 00:59:26,400
bagging her too.
To tell the police that just

1054
00:59:26,400 --> 00:59:30,500
tell them where you buried my
son, like just woman to woman.

1055
00:59:30,500 --> 00:59:33,800
Like I just need to know where
he is.

1056
00:59:33,800 --> 00:59:36,800
Yeah, like okay, for one you're
already in jail.

1057
00:59:36,800 --> 00:59:38,600
So nothing else is going to
happen to you.

1058
00:59:38,700 --> 00:59:41,200
You already got life in prison
just like help me out.

1059
00:59:41,200 --> 00:59:43,100
Help me like get some closure
out of this.

1060
00:59:43,300 --> 00:59:47,500
Well, police visit Myra and she
says no I definitely had nothing

1061
00:59:47,500 --> 00:59:52,900
to do with this but I will help.
But she says she needs to visit

1062
00:59:52,900 --> 00:59:57,400
the Moors to be sure.
That's 85.

1063
00:59:58,300 --> 01:00:04,400
There were two visits that
happen and A lot of people

1064
01:00:04,400 --> 01:00:08,000
doubted her intention.
They were like she just wants

1065
01:00:08,000 --> 01:00:09,700
like a break to leave the
prison.

1066
01:00:09,700 --> 01:00:12,500
You know, she's been inside for
20 years and who wouldn't she

1067
01:00:12,500 --> 01:00:15,200
just wants to go out and see the
sun, you know, experience the

1068
01:00:15,200 --> 01:00:20,500
beautiful Lush landscape but
she'd actually does she like

1069
01:00:20,500 --> 01:00:23,700
they'd she sits down with the
police with like maps and

1070
01:00:23,700 --> 01:00:28,200
pictures of the Moor and she
kind of pinpoints every place

1071
01:00:28,200 --> 01:00:35,300
that her and even used to go and
And they launched a major search

1072
01:00:35,700 --> 01:00:39,600
in, 1987, okay?
With all this information, that

1073
01:00:39,600 --> 01:00:46,000
Meyer gave to them your prior
after 100-day, search and 1987,

1074
01:00:46,400 --> 01:00:52,800
they find Colleen's body in
July, on July 1st, with the

1075
01:00:52,800 --> 01:00:56,100
body, and finally, admits to
killing her.

1076
01:00:58,600 --> 01:01:01,500
But they have still been
searching for Keith Bennett's

1077
01:01:01,500 --> 01:01:06,400
body, even as far back as
2017-2018, they've been using

1078
01:01:06,400 --> 01:01:10,300
newer technology.
All right, like legitimately the

1079
01:01:10,300 --> 01:01:12,600
seismographs and stuff like
that, they've been trying to use

1080
01:01:12,600 --> 01:01:14,400
modern technology to try and
figure out.

1081
01:01:14,400 --> 01:01:16,300
It's a massive area.
Right.

1082
01:01:17,400 --> 01:01:20,600
In Manchester as I said, I
wanted to kind of give you a

1083
01:01:21,700 --> 01:01:23,700
Idea.
Because leaky.

1084
01:01:24,300 --> 01:01:28,200
Oh my God.
Maybe we can find a map.

1085
01:01:28,200 --> 01:01:30,400
It's a huge.
It's a huge part of the area.

1086
01:01:31,000 --> 01:01:35,800
And It's like I said it's
beautiful but it's just this

1087
01:01:35,800 --> 01:01:39,500
massive, beautiful mirror,
there's rivers and other stuff,

1088
01:01:39,500 --> 01:01:44,200
and you also like, like stuff
underground moves.

1089
01:01:44,200 --> 01:01:47,900
Yeah, over time this point now
it's been 40 years.

1090
01:01:48,800 --> 01:01:51,500
All that would be left would be
bone.

1091
01:01:52,200 --> 01:01:56,400
Well, I mean yeah, you still may
be some cloth but maybe you can

1092
01:01:56,400 --> 01:01:58,200
find a score at least.
Yeah.

1093
01:01:58,500 --> 01:02:01,700
You know.
So we have there's no happy

1094
01:02:01,700 --> 01:02:03,200
ending when it comes to keep at
it.

1095
01:02:03,300 --> 01:02:07,500
Eric and his family.
That's probably the biggest.

1096
01:02:07,500 --> 01:02:09,700
Like most heartbreaking part of
this for me.

1097
01:02:09,700 --> 01:02:13,600
Yeah, just that this 12 year old
boy help the lady.

1098
01:02:14,100 --> 01:02:17,100
Put her stuff in the back of her
car and he was never heard from

1099
01:02:17,100 --> 01:02:20,100
again.
Got that for his troubles,

1100
01:02:20,600 --> 01:02:24,700
right?
As far as, like I said, nobody

1101
01:02:24,800 --> 01:02:28,200
around the scenario.
Came out really well.

1102
01:02:29,100 --> 01:02:33,400
So David Smith got approached by
a lot of papers to sell his

1103
01:02:33,400 --> 01:02:36,500
story, of course, the old.
And I miss is thousands upon

1104
01:02:36,500 --> 01:02:40,800
thousands of dollars and
ultimately he did sell his story

1105
01:02:40,800 --> 01:02:46,600
to a paper which was not the
best idea for him, he became

1106
01:02:46,600 --> 01:02:49,500
kind of the most hated man.
Manchester.

1107
01:02:49,600 --> 01:02:53,700
I mean yeah.
I'm like openly reviled and

1108
01:02:53,700 --> 01:02:58,500
because of that like not only
that but my Maureen Myra sister,

1109
01:02:58,500 --> 01:03:02,000
she like, they like she gets
attacked while she's in the

1110
01:03:02,000 --> 01:03:04,100
elevator at her apartment while
she's pregnant.

1111
01:03:04,800 --> 01:03:09,900
Yeah, they both received like
countless amount of hate mail.

1112
01:03:09,900 --> 01:03:13,100
Their home is vandalized.
Oh my gosh, my stuff like when

1113
01:03:13,100 --> 01:03:15,600
they were trying to like hide
their identity.

1114
01:03:15,600 --> 01:03:21,000
Yeah like because just the fact
that That Marine was related to

1115
01:03:21,000 --> 01:03:25,900
Myra Guilty, By Association.
You had to have known that she

1116
01:03:25,900 --> 01:03:27,500
was doing all this horrible
stuff.

1117
01:03:27,500 --> 01:03:30,400
She's your sister know.
We like those kinds of messages

1118
01:03:30,400 --> 01:03:33,800
and letters really hung up when
they want to hang out over there

1119
01:03:33,800 --> 01:03:35,700
all the time.
Listen to this.

1120
01:03:36,700 --> 01:03:41,800
But regardless, Ian, Brady died
in 2017 of heart disease.

1121
01:03:42,900 --> 01:03:46,400
A jerk until the very end.
I believe it at the end he was

1122
01:03:46,400 --> 01:03:50,300
doing like a hunger strike.
Oh, for some ridiculous reason

1123
01:03:50,300 --> 01:03:53,800
and that apparently had nothing
to do with the fact that he died

1124
01:03:53,800 --> 01:03:58,000
from heart disease.
Myra died from bronchial,

1125
01:03:58,000 --> 01:04:01,800
pneumonia after a lifetime of
chain-smoking and being

1126
01:04:01,800 --> 01:04:04,400
diagnosed with angina and a
brain aneurysm.

1127
01:04:05,100 --> 01:04:09,900
Gotcha, one of the things that
Ian was actually kind of bitter

1128
01:04:09,900 --> 01:04:16,100
about is the fact that like 20
or so years after Alice has gone

1129
01:04:16,100 --> 01:04:21,000
down, Myra gets, has like a
brain aneurysm and he's just

1130
01:04:21,000 --> 01:04:23,100
like, oh, she has a brain
condition, so, she doesn't even

1131
01:04:23,100 --> 01:04:25,300
have to deal with all this
garbage that I have to deal

1132
01:04:25,300 --> 01:04:29,900
with, because she's like, not
all the way there, dude.

1133
01:04:30,700 --> 01:04:34,100
You did this to yourself,
exactly.

1134
01:04:34,100 --> 01:04:36,000
But yeah.
He's very, he's like there's so

1135
01:04:36,000 --> 01:04:39,300
much stuff that like I could
talk to you about how bitter in

1136
01:04:39,300 --> 01:04:42,700
prettiest, but I'm so mad I
called for doing all these

1137
01:04:42,700 --> 01:04:46,100
horrible crimes not gonna deal
with this, my whole life,

1138
01:04:47,000 --> 01:04:50,000
interesting things that I came
across and I will say this is

1139
01:04:50,000 --> 01:04:52,600
sort of a funny out of the
probably the funniest detail

1140
01:04:52,600 --> 01:04:57,400
here so there's a 2020
documentary over the UK called

1141
01:04:57,700 --> 01:05:00,900
Rose West and Myra hindley, I
haven't talked much about Rose

1142
01:05:00,900 --> 01:05:04,200
West, she was part of another
couple that were particularly

1143
01:05:04,200 --> 01:05:07,200
awful.
And did some seriously, horrible

1144
01:05:07,300 --> 01:05:10,000
sex crimes.
Mmm, Rose West.

1145
01:05:10,000 --> 01:05:13,300
And Myra hindley.
And one other woman from 2013,

1146
01:05:13,500 --> 01:05:16,900
are the only three women in
British history to be given

1147
01:05:16,900 --> 01:05:18,700
lifetime sentences for their
crimes.

1148
01:05:19,600 --> 01:05:24,700
That's, it's very hard to get a
life sentence in the UK.

1149
01:05:24,700 --> 01:05:26,700
Like, you have to do something
really rough?

1150
01:05:26,700 --> 01:05:28,700
Wow.
Like you don't get like a life

1151
01:05:28,700 --> 01:05:30,400
sentence, like, you know, in the
u.s. you might get a life

1152
01:05:30,400 --> 01:05:32,700
sentence for like drugs.
Yeah, they don't do that.

1153
01:05:32,700 --> 01:05:36,100
It's not like that over there
but for murder, it's serious and

1154
01:05:36,100 --> 01:05:37,700
murders.
That's when so there's only

1155
01:05:37,700 --> 01:05:40,000
three women who have been given
these kind of sentences in the

1156
01:05:40,000 --> 01:05:42,000
u.s., I mean, the UK.
Yeah.

1157
01:05:43,500 --> 01:05:47,700
But either way, so Rose West and
Myra hindley were both in the

1158
01:05:47,700 --> 01:05:52,800
same prison at the same time.
And so in this documentary

1159
01:05:53,000 --> 01:05:59,100
called their untold story, it
says that Myra and rosemary,

1160
01:05:59,100 --> 01:06:04,200
West grew close in jail bonded
over their similar crimes

1161
01:06:04,200 --> 01:06:06,600
because Of them sexually
assaulted children.

1162
01:06:06,600 --> 01:06:08,900
What a thing to bond?
I know, I mean, it's like

1163
01:06:08,900 --> 01:06:12,100
pedophiles doing the same thing
then apparently had an affair.

1164
01:06:12,500 --> 01:06:15,600
Oh nice.
Which ended badly and they

1165
01:06:15,600 --> 01:06:21,500
became Rivals as prison royalty.
Oh my God, being the worst women

1166
01:06:21,500 --> 01:06:24,800
in the present arms, watch this
documentary.

1167
01:06:25,000 --> 01:06:28,200
But I want to, is this Orange is
the New Black.

1168
01:06:28,200 --> 01:06:32,800
You can I just knew Black UK
Edition Rose West admire his?

1169
01:06:32,900 --> 01:06:34,600
Oh my God.
Okay.

1170
01:06:35,400 --> 01:06:37,500
But yeah.
Actually, the only thing I know

1171
01:06:37,500 --> 01:06:40,100
about Rose West recently in the
news is that people in the UK

1172
01:06:40,100 --> 01:06:43,400
were mad because she got the
covid vaccine and they were

1173
01:06:43,400 --> 01:06:48,200
like, one of the worst serial
rapists, and murderers, and UK

1174
01:06:48,200 --> 01:06:50,400
history should not be getting a
covid.

1175
01:06:50,400 --> 01:06:53,400
Vaccine, do you say I heard you?
Yeah, we were talking about that

1176
01:06:53,400 --> 01:06:55,800
weeks ago.
Yes, he bore mad.

1177
01:06:56,100 --> 01:06:59,300
I understand, I mean, that's
right.

1178
01:06:59,300 --> 01:07:00,200
Yeah, that's one thing I'm
tight.

1179
01:07:00,200 --> 01:07:02,400
Listen.
When the UK does not like

1180
01:07:02,400 --> 01:07:04,400
somebody, they do.
They are dating.

1181
01:07:04,400 --> 01:07:08,000
Now, Like somebody they like I
said they attacked like they

1182
01:07:08,400 --> 01:07:12,500
they like rioted outside of the
courtroom where those two boys

1183
01:07:12,500 --> 01:07:15,200
were on trial for murdering the
four-year-old in the 90s.

1184
01:07:17,300 --> 01:07:21,000
The families of those two boys
had to change their names.

1185
01:07:21,000 --> 01:07:24,400
Not just the boys had to change
their names, but their families

1186
01:07:24,400 --> 01:07:28,600
had to get new identities and
move to other parts of England.

1187
01:07:28,800 --> 01:07:32,000
I mean, yeah, that's how serious
the public outcry is.

1188
01:07:32,000 --> 01:07:34,600
And it's interesting because I
have a tick tock about those two

1189
01:07:34,700 --> 01:07:36,600
Boys, one of them is name, is
John Venable?

1190
01:07:37,000 --> 01:07:40,700
And my comment section is
chaotic.

1191
01:07:41,400 --> 01:07:45,000
It is full of people who are
like no murder them.

1192
01:07:45,200 --> 01:07:47,300
They should have been killed
when they were 10 years old.

1193
01:07:47,300 --> 01:07:49,800
My godchildren.
You're like, doesn't matter.

1194
01:07:49,800 --> 01:07:52,000
They like brutalized a four year
old boys.

1195
01:07:52,700 --> 01:07:55,800
That's like, this is just one of
those things that like, it's

1196
01:07:55,800 --> 01:07:58,300
very, very tough.
Invite them.

1197
01:07:58,300 --> 01:08:00,400
Yeah, it's a very divisive
topic.

1198
01:08:00,500 --> 01:08:02,900
But listen, the UK, like, they
will come after you.

1199
01:08:02,900 --> 01:08:07,000
So I hope you were Happy to
everyone listening who really

1200
01:08:07,000 --> 01:08:10,300
wanted to hear about this?
Can I just say how much I love

1201
01:08:10,300 --> 01:08:15,000
the UK and I plan on visiting
their some timing.

1202
01:08:15,000 --> 01:08:16,300
I love that.
You listen.

1203
01:08:16,300 --> 01:08:18,200
I love it.
You hate your serial killers so

1204
01:08:18,200 --> 01:08:19,899
much that you try and take them
out.

1205
01:08:19,899 --> 01:08:23,200
Yeah, like like, seriously, I
love the UK lives.

1206
01:08:23,399 --> 01:08:25,600
Like, let's go.
I'm here for it.

1207
01:08:25,600 --> 01:08:27,300
Let's do it.
Oh my God.

1208
01:08:29,100 --> 01:08:34,600
Yes, that's it.
It's not like, listen, there's

1209
01:08:34,600 --> 01:08:37,200
no way you didn't know that your
sister was a murderer.

1210
01:08:37,399 --> 01:08:40,600
We hate you to imagine.
Like even if you didn't know,

1211
01:08:40,600 --> 01:08:43,300
you had to have no.
Even if you didn't know, you had

1212
01:08:43,300 --> 01:08:45,200
to have known that your sister
was a Monster.

1213
01:08:45,200 --> 01:08:47,300
Yeah.
Thank you very much.

1214
01:09:00,600 --> 01:09:04,800
Well, yeah, we move into the
part of the evening.

1215
01:09:04,800 --> 01:09:09,600
That is all about Ryan and
spooky thing.

1216
01:09:09,700 --> 01:09:12,399
Yay.
Um, okay.

1217
01:09:13,700 --> 01:09:15,300
So I don't know how to start
dissolve.

1218
01:09:16,200 --> 01:09:21,100
What's it about since you're all
mr.

1219
01:09:21,100 --> 01:09:23,500
Secretive over there.
Well I gave you a pun at the

1220
01:09:23,500 --> 01:09:26,500
beginning.
As a never get the puns you all

1221
01:09:28,300 --> 01:09:34,300
this Hopefully other people can
get my jokes in done and in

1222
01:09:34,300 --> 01:09:38,600
appreciate the comedic humor I
bring to the show.

1223
01:09:39,800 --> 01:09:43,100
I think you're very funny.
Did you get my dad jokes?

1224
01:09:44,000 --> 01:09:47,200
I just, I listen, I have to
understand the pun to get the

1225
01:09:47,200 --> 01:09:51,500
pun.
Anyway, that give me more

1226
01:09:51,500 --> 01:09:54,400
information.
I just said, one word that's

1227
01:09:54,400 --> 01:09:56,000
part of the the story I'm
talking about.

1228
01:09:56,000 --> 01:10:01,600
So yeah, okay, let's see.
Okay, so we're gonna guess, is

1229
01:10:01,600 --> 01:10:04,900
it Ghosts?
No crafted.

1230
01:10:06,500 --> 01:10:10,800
Sort of sorta.
Is it International?

1231
01:10:14,100 --> 01:10:17,000
Kind of because that I'm really
interested.

1232
01:10:17,000 --> 01:10:19,800
I think I'm going to take start
doing some International stuff

1233
01:10:19,800 --> 01:10:21,700
and I know there's some
International weirdness.

1234
01:10:21,700 --> 01:10:25,700
That's cool too.
I mean one originally I think

1235
01:10:25,700 --> 01:10:30,600
here okay and the other one is
from Canada.

1236
01:10:30,600 --> 01:10:33,000
So I guess that that that's not
America.

1237
01:10:33,000 --> 01:10:35,600
They like when we talk about
things that are not America.

1238
01:10:35,600 --> 01:10:39,100
So whoo-hoo We're going to get
better at that.

1239
01:10:39,800 --> 01:10:41,200
Hmm.
Actually I think, didn't we say

1240
01:10:41,200 --> 01:10:43,000
next month?
We're just going to go full all

1241
01:10:43,000 --> 01:10:45,900
International stuff, dry,
whoo-hoo.

1242
01:10:46,500 --> 01:10:49,000
All right, I'm ready for you.
Okay?

1243
01:10:49,200 --> 01:10:52,700
Today I will be talking about
Creepypastas.

1244
01:10:54,400 --> 01:10:59,000
Hmm.
Creepypastas, originally

1245
01:10:59,000 --> 01:11:02,500
referred to as short
user-generated horror stories

1246
01:11:03,000 --> 01:11:06,000
that were copied and pasted it
across the internet.

1247
01:11:07,100 --> 01:11:12,500
Like, I remember like reading
entries or reading stories, like

1248
01:11:12,500 --> 01:11:15,000
back before they even like
called Creepypastas.

1249
01:11:15,200 --> 01:11:19,000
I used to Read Creepypastas the
way I read scps now where I just

1250
01:11:19,000 --> 01:11:21,400
sit down and I just click
through them and I get stuck

1251
01:11:21,400 --> 01:11:23,000
doing it for hours.
Oh yeah.

1252
01:11:23,000 --> 01:11:27,100
You suggest to, that's what I
used to do, depression, help

1253
01:11:27,100 --> 01:11:29,300
that as well.
I guess I don't even want, I

1254
01:11:29,308 --> 01:11:30,300
don't even know what we would
call that.

1255
01:11:30,300 --> 01:11:35,500
That's like I mean they were
just they look like a Wiki page

1256
01:11:35,500 --> 01:11:38,800
but like if okay.
So like, oh my phone, I have an

1257
01:11:38,800 --> 01:11:41,500
app to Read Manga.
It's like, when I'm doing that

1258
01:11:41,500 --> 01:11:44,300
and I'm just like scrolling.
And if it's a manga it's like

1259
01:11:44,300 --> 01:11:47,900
completed and I just started it,
then they have so many chapters

1260
01:11:47,900 --> 01:11:49,600
to it.
I'm going to probably like read

1261
01:11:49,600 --> 01:11:55,100
half of them on, I feel you.
But yeah, yeah I just remember

1262
01:11:55,100 --> 01:11:59,500
like Reading these back in the
day before they even like used

1263
01:11:59,500 --> 01:12:00,900
to make YouTube videos about
them.

1264
01:12:02,000 --> 01:12:04,400
I remember the first two I
remember before there was

1265
01:12:04,400 --> 01:12:05,700
YouTube.
I know, right?

1266
01:12:06,100 --> 01:12:10,100
So first of all, remember,
reading about were Candle Cove

1267
01:12:10,800 --> 01:12:15,000
and the one called this man.
You have never heard of.

1268
01:12:15,000 --> 01:12:16,800
Okay.
So can we I don't really have

1269
01:12:16,800 --> 01:12:18,200
the synopsis of running me
camera.

1270
01:12:18,200 --> 01:12:21,400
Coves.
Just basically shared memory.

1271
01:12:21,500 --> 01:12:25,700
Not like share memories thing,
but it's a someone a poster

1272
01:12:25,700 --> 01:12:28,200
posted something about an ode TV
show.

1273
01:12:28,200 --> 01:12:31,800
They watched as a child and it's
called Candle Cove.

1274
01:12:32,000 --> 01:12:34,100
And on the show, they were like,
mate.

1275
01:12:34,600 --> 01:12:37,800
Most of the characters on the
show were puppets and there was

1276
01:12:37,800 --> 01:12:40,100
one human girl character as
well.

1277
01:12:40,500 --> 01:12:43,000
Okay, this does sound familiar
Inkay.

1278
01:12:44,000 --> 01:12:46,300
And they're just like one creepy
episode.

1279
01:12:46,300 --> 01:12:50,600
We're all like everybody was
just screaming and I would love

1280
01:12:50,600 --> 01:12:53,100
to find that.
Yeah, you gotta look at larious

1281
01:12:53,700 --> 01:12:57,200
but no I think my first
Creepypasta was the one that's

1282
01:12:57,200 --> 01:13:03,100
based off of Zelda been drowned
and the corrupted game and the

1283
01:13:03,100 --> 01:13:05,400
the yeah I think I remember
reading that and being

1284
01:13:05,400 --> 01:13:08,300
thoroughly creeped out.
Yeah Ben Drowned that's a good

1285
01:13:08,300 --> 01:13:10,000
one.
That's a good, a good classic

1286
01:13:10,000 --> 01:13:13,600
one.
Yeah Gaming Creepypasta and the

1287
01:13:13,700 --> 01:13:17,400
The one called this man.
Have you heard of this man?

1288
01:13:17,400 --> 01:13:24,700
No, so this man is God, okay.
So you know, how I hate police

1289
01:13:24,700 --> 01:13:27,000
sketch artist drawings?
Absolutely, because they are

1290
01:13:27,000 --> 01:13:33,000
devoid of life.
This picture of this man, looks

1291
01:13:33,000 --> 01:13:40,300
like that gave me nightmares for
about like two weeks.

1292
01:13:40,900 --> 01:13:44,100
So I read that like I read it
on.

1293
01:13:44,100 --> 01:13:47,900
I don't know what I read it on,
but there's no actual website

1294
01:13:47,900 --> 01:13:54,000
called this, man, not order.com,
whatever, and is it the picture

1295
01:13:54,000 --> 01:13:55,200
that says have you seen this
man?

1296
01:13:55,200 --> 01:13:57,700
And he's got like, a weird
chubby face and big lips in the

1297
01:13:57,700 --> 01:13:59,500
fucking unibrow.
Yes.

1298
01:13:59,500 --> 01:14:00,700
Yeah.
Okay.

1299
01:14:01,900 --> 01:14:06,000
Yeah.
Anyway, that gives me chills.

1300
01:14:06,000 --> 01:14:07,800
Yeah, houses are like fun
things.

1301
01:14:07,800 --> 01:14:10,200
Like can you dream about a
person you've never seen before

1302
01:14:10,500 --> 01:14:13,400
and like shared dreaming like
Creepypastas and stuff like

1303
01:14:13,400 --> 01:14:14,300
that?
Really cool.

1304
01:14:14,300 --> 01:14:17,600
Yeah, that guy, he apparently it
appears in people's Dreams.

1305
01:14:17,600 --> 01:14:20,900
Yeah, I'm like you're supposed
to like in your dreams.

1306
01:14:21,400 --> 01:14:23,900
You're only supposed to see
people that you've seen in your

1307
01:14:23,900 --> 01:14:27,200
real life.
I don't think that's true, and

1308
01:14:27,208 --> 01:14:29,400
that's not true for me.
Because I said, you know, I've

1309
01:14:29,400 --> 01:14:33,200
had entire like walking dead
dreams with the entire cast.

1310
01:14:33,200 --> 01:14:36,500
Helping me like, okay, I'll try
my family and your real life

1311
01:14:36,500 --> 01:14:37,900
though.
I've seen them on TV.

1312
01:14:38,100 --> 01:14:43,100
Exactly, I will say people who I
don't know, some people don't

1313
01:14:43,100 --> 01:14:47,900
like appear fully in my dreams.
They seem like, kind of like,

1314
01:14:48,900 --> 01:14:51,800
what are we watching that had,
like the mannequins in the

1315
01:14:51,800 --> 01:14:53,600
background?
I don't know.

1316
01:14:53,600 --> 01:14:55,800
I just remember claim little
nightmares last night.

1317
01:14:55,900 --> 01:14:59,700
Yeah, I think yes, kind of,
like, in the background.

1318
01:14:59,700 --> 01:15:04,400
Like, sometimes I have people in
my memory, like, in my dreams

1319
01:15:04,400 --> 01:15:07,600
like that who are just like, we
just need placeholders here.

1320
01:15:07,608 --> 01:15:10,800
Like, essentially, my dreams
have extras and the extras,

1321
01:15:10,800 --> 01:15:14,300
don't need faces.
Only the star of the show needs

1322
01:15:14,300 --> 01:15:16,500
faces in my dream.
I just, I don't know.

1323
01:15:16,508 --> 01:15:18,800
I see, I've had dreams about
people who have never met

1324
01:15:18,800 --> 01:15:19,600
before.
Exactly.

1325
01:15:19,600 --> 01:15:21,700
Same here people who I'm like,
maybe these are faces of people.

1326
01:15:21,700 --> 01:15:25,200
I met when I was walking through
life, you know.

1327
01:15:25,200 --> 01:15:29,400
But here's my, I think, once you
see this picture of this man,

1328
01:15:29,900 --> 01:15:35,000
like now you see that?
So now, it's in your head.

1329
01:15:35,000 --> 01:15:36,900
Also, his proportions are very
wrong.

1330
01:15:36,900 --> 01:15:39,300
Yeah.
It's just a weird-looking guy.

1331
01:15:39,800 --> 01:15:41,300
Some of these are 3D image of
it.

1332
01:15:41,300 --> 01:15:43,400
Is Anwar okay?
Can we not I'm not going to show

1333
01:15:43,400 --> 01:15:44,600
you.
I'm not gonna make you sit,

1334
01:15:44,600 --> 01:15:45,700
watch it.
It's just weird.

1335
01:15:45,700 --> 01:15:48,100
It's bad.
Just if you're listening.

1336
01:15:48,100 --> 01:15:50,400
Look up. 3D this man.
It's awful.

1337
01:15:50,400 --> 01:15:51,600
Looking.
Oh my God.

1338
01:15:51,600 --> 01:15:54,900
Anyway but so okay, that is one
thing I am really, really

1339
01:15:54,900 --> 01:15:56,700
afraid.
That baby's.

1340
01:15:56,700 --> 01:15:59,800
I don't want to look at it ever.
Hey.

1341
01:15:59,900 --> 01:16:04,400
So anyway, there's a large
community based around horror

1342
01:16:04,400 --> 01:16:07,800
stories Creepypastas.
Don't know if you checked out,

1343
01:16:07,900 --> 01:16:10,700
would you consider our No Sleep
Creepypastas?

1344
01:16:10,700 --> 01:16:12,400
Absolutely.
Yeah, I love.

1345
01:16:12,400 --> 01:16:15,600
That's one of my favorite places
to just read and then take a,

1346
01:16:15,700 --> 01:16:17,300
you know, go to bed.
Yeah.

1347
01:16:17,300 --> 01:16:19,100
Yeah.
Great thing to go to sleep with,

1348
01:16:19,100 --> 01:16:23,700
you know, subreddit no sleep.
It's now most of the stories

1349
01:16:24,100 --> 01:16:28,500
they are made to seem Like
they're true, but most of the

1350
01:16:28,500 --> 01:16:33,700
fun of that subreddit is that
you never doubt the truth of the

1351
01:16:33,700 --> 01:16:37,300
story you'll get, no, you never
publicly say that didn't happen.

1352
01:16:38,200 --> 01:16:39,500
You get removed.
Yeah.

1353
01:16:39,500 --> 01:16:42,000
How dare you don't?
Don't do this for the fun of it.

1354
01:16:42,000 --> 01:16:46,800
Is that we pretend or we behave
as if this thing that someone's

1355
01:16:46,800 --> 01:16:49,300
writing to us about is 100%
real.

1356
01:16:49,300 --> 01:16:50,800
Really a time.
We just like yeah.

1357
01:16:50,900 --> 01:16:53,300
Okay that's that's creepy as
fuck dude.

1358
01:16:53,300 --> 01:16:54,600
I hope you got out.
Safely.

1359
01:16:54,600 --> 01:16:57,900
Got people are like oh wow.
How have you done this?

1360
01:16:57,900 --> 01:17:00,300
This, this this and this like,
people really engage with it.

1361
01:17:00,300 --> 01:17:02,200
It's a nice Community.
Yeah, I love it.

1362
01:17:02,300 --> 01:17:07,300
Um, so where was I?
So we talked about this man and

1363
01:17:07,300 --> 01:17:08,800
ones that you like to wear you
down sir.

1364
01:17:08,900 --> 01:17:11,300
So like I was little you even
got to it.

1365
01:17:11,308 --> 01:17:14,600
So I was going to say, check out
Reddit, there's some amazing

1366
01:17:14,600 --> 01:17:18,300
writers, they're really authors
on Reddit of specially the

1367
01:17:18,300 --> 01:17:21,700
subreddit, no sleep.
They have great writers there.

1368
01:17:23,700 --> 01:17:26,200
Anyway, we're going to be
talking about to Creepypastas

1369
01:17:26,200 --> 01:17:28,700
today.
All right, one from the early

1370
01:17:28,700 --> 01:17:30,700
days of Creepypastas.
All right?

1371
01:17:30,800 --> 01:17:37,200
And one that is a current
creature in the Creepypasta, I

1372
01:17:37,200 --> 01:17:38,200
guess, sir?
Yeah.

1373
01:17:38,300 --> 01:17:40,100
Okay, I guess it is.
Yeah.

1374
01:17:40,500 --> 01:17:45,800
Okay, so let's start off with a
brief history of these spooky

1375
01:17:45,800 --> 01:17:48,600
spaghettis.
These frightful fettuccine, he's

1376
01:17:49,800 --> 01:17:53,200
silly.
These the frightful feta cheese.

1377
01:17:53,400 --> 01:17:55,900
I like that Creepypastas.
All right.

1378
01:17:57,500 --> 01:18:02,100
So, we're Creepypastas Chrome
from is pretty much unknown.

1379
01:18:02,200 --> 01:18:04,600
Like, what were the name,
actually?

1380
01:18:04,600 --> 01:18:07,700
Not, where name Creepypasta.
Have like, a time period of

1381
01:18:07,700 --> 01:18:09,900
like, when the first website was
where?

1382
01:18:09,900 --> 01:18:13,600
Yeah, where do the exact origins
of like the first Creepypasta

1383
01:18:14,100 --> 01:18:17,500
originated from like there's a
time frame for it.

1384
01:18:20,600 --> 01:18:24,800
But early Creepypastas were
written by Anonymous users and

1385
01:18:24,800 --> 01:18:29,900
then we posted some think that
the earliest Creepypastas were,

1386
01:18:29,900 --> 01:18:32,800
you know, those those Chain
Letter emails that you can get.

1387
01:18:32,800 --> 01:18:34,200
Yeah.
Those are horrible.

1388
01:18:34,200 --> 01:18:37,200
Like yeah.
Puss that resend this.

1389
01:18:37,200 --> 01:18:39,600
So you're going to see her when
you wake up.

1390
01:18:39,600 --> 01:18:40,500
Yeah.
The middle of the night.

1391
01:18:40,700 --> 01:18:42,600
Yeah.
Those ones back in the early

1392
01:18:43,400 --> 01:18:45,600
90s, actually back in the
nineties.

1393
01:18:45,600 --> 01:18:47,000
Yeah.
You get those in the nineties.

1394
01:18:47,400 --> 01:18:49,900
So, you know, that's where the
internet was popping off at the

1395
01:18:50,100 --> 01:18:52,700
I'm so is that new thing?
Yeah.

1396
01:18:54,000 --> 01:18:59,300
So name Creepypasta, it came
from where else but Fortune

1397
01:18:59,800 --> 01:19:04,700
okay, I thought so it's a it's a
portmanteau of the word copy

1398
01:19:04,700 --> 01:19:08,700
pasta.
So yeah, copy copy paste, copy

1399
01:19:08,700 --> 01:19:10,600
creepy story, it's a
creepypasta.

1400
01:19:10,900 --> 01:19:14,800
Alrighty.
So most of the earliest

1401
01:19:14,800 --> 01:19:18,900
Creepypastas were usually
rituals personal accounts and

1402
01:19:19,000 --> 01:19:25,800
urban legends, right?
So if you go on Yeah, I spelled

1403
01:19:25,800 --> 01:19:30,400
on live but I meant online if
you go online.

1404
01:19:30,400 --> 01:19:35,300
Now, you'll be able to find like
a lot of Creepypasta websites.

1405
01:19:36,900 --> 01:19:40,300
Now, these websites didn't start
to be like start being made

1406
01:19:40,300 --> 01:19:44,500
until like the late 2000s.
Okay, sir to 2010.

1407
01:19:44,500 --> 01:19:51,100
So 2000-2010 different Wiki has.
Yeah, so Creepypasta.com was

1408
01:19:51,100 --> 01:19:55,900
made and 2008, okay.
And if you love Reddit and

1409
01:19:55,900 --> 01:20:01,800
follow the no-sleep subreddit it
was created in 2010 really?

1410
01:20:01,800 --> 01:20:03,300
That reset.
Yes!

1411
01:20:05,400 --> 01:20:07,100
What else?
There's another website.

1412
01:20:07,100 --> 01:20:09,200
That was I didn't write it down,
darn it.

1413
01:20:09,300 --> 01:20:16,100
Okay but yet these these have
been so these websites they have

1414
01:20:17,300 --> 01:20:22,000
An expansive amount of their
archive has like a lot of creepy

1415
01:20:22,000 --> 01:20:29,000
pastas and it now Creepypastas
range from the whore

1416
01:20:29,100 --> 01:20:34,000
Creepypastas to unsettling
Creepypastas, I would say harder

1417
01:20:34,000 --> 01:20:38,700
is not the ones that got me.
Unsettling a couple of maybe two

1418
01:20:38,700 --> 01:20:44,200
or three years ago, this guy
said he was a his job was to

1419
01:20:44,200 --> 01:20:49,800
find lost people in the wild.
And he it was like a 10 part

1420
01:20:49,800 --> 01:20:52,000
Series where he just talked
about his experience, trying to

1421
01:20:52,008 --> 01:20:56,200
find people in the wilderness
like forests and national parks

1422
01:20:56,200 --> 01:20:58,700
and things.
And he also talked about like

1423
01:20:58,700 --> 01:21:02,800
how he would come across.
Just stairwells, oh yes,

1424
01:21:02,800 --> 01:21:05,700
laterally, stairways going their
way and going nowhere.

1425
01:21:05,700 --> 01:21:08,600
And they weren't like part of
Foundations or anything and that

1426
01:21:08,600 --> 01:21:11,600
everybody who worked with him
told him not to go up them and

1427
01:21:11,800 --> 01:21:14,300
he took pictures of them.
And I think this was a real

1428
01:21:14,300 --> 01:21:18,800
person who did that job.
And I think that those are

1429
01:21:18,800 --> 01:21:22,200
stairways from former homes that
were built there, but it is

1430
01:21:22,200 --> 01:21:25,000
super creepy and unsettling to
think.

1431
01:21:25,000 --> 01:21:27,400
Like, if you start climbing
these steps, what's gonna

1432
01:21:27,400 --> 01:21:30,900
happen, it's a it's a
creepypasta, it's a search and

1433
01:21:30,900 --> 01:21:32,800
rescue the other search and
rescue guy.

1434
01:21:32,800 --> 01:21:33,900
That's is what that's what I
did.

1435
01:21:33,900 --> 01:21:36,400
I was like he's the guy who
saves people from the woods.

1436
01:21:36,400 --> 01:21:38,000
It's a serious surgery was one
of that.

1437
01:21:38,000 --> 01:21:40,000
Like that's one of my favorites.
Okay.

1438
01:21:40,400 --> 01:21:45,100
So one of my favorite cream.
Pasta narrators is mr.

1439
01:21:45,100 --> 01:21:48,600
Creepy Pasta.
Okay, if you You are on YouTube

1440
01:21:48,600 --> 01:21:51,700
and you listen to Creepypastas
you know all about mr.

1441
01:21:51,700 --> 01:21:53,700
Creepy Pasta.
See that's so funny because you

1442
01:21:53,700 --> 01:21:56,900
know, who my favorite is who
corpse husband, he does

1443
01:21:56,900 --> 01:21:58,900
Creepypasta read as he does
YouTube.

1444
01:21:58,900 --> 01:22:02,400
He reads, he read stories that
people submit to him of their

1445
01:22:02,400 --> 01:22:05,300
own like scary things before he
got into gaming.

1446
01:22:05,300 --> 01:22:07,400
That was what he used to do.
I don't know that.

1447
01:22:07,400 --> 01:22:09,700
That's how I knew he was when
all of a sudden he was on

1448
01:22:09,700 --> 01:22:12,400
everybody stream.
Yeah, deep voice in it.

1449
01:22:14,500 --> 01:22:16,300
That's like, oh, he's one of the
creepy people.

1450
01:22:17,400 --> 01:22:19,500
Are you still listening?
You had 12?

1451
01:22:19,500 --> 01:22:21,000
Okay?
Yeah, I just post whatever.

1452
01:22:21,000 --> 01:22:25,900
I have a couple that I posted.
I was actually I joined a

1453
01:22:25,900 --> 01:22:29,700
contest like twice for like
narration.

1454
01:22:29,700 --> 01:22:32,500
Is God Chilling.
Tales for Dark Nights.

1455
01:22:32,600 --> 01:22:34,300
Oh cool.
They have an evil idol

1456
01:22:34,600 --> 01:22:38,600
competition like once a year.
I think they stopped like ones.

1457
01:22:38,600 --> 01:22:41,200
I'm not sure.
But when covid hit the kind of

1458
01:22:41,208 --> 01:22:45,100
like they had it but it wasn't
like and I like I want to end up

1459
01:22:45,100 --> 01:22:47,900
like twice and I didn't
Whatever.

1460
01:22:48,100 --> 01:22:50,700
Anyway.
Listen, listen, it's different.

1461
01:22:50,700 --> 01:22:54,900
Now I think that your oh well, I
think experience.

1462
01:22:54,900 --> 01:22:56,700
Yeah, voice person.
Yeah.

1463
01:22:56,700 --> 01:22:59,600
Now I have experienced
underneath my belt as a voice

1464
01:22:59,600 --> 01:23:00,900
actor.
But there you go.

1465
01:23:01,100 --> 01:23:06,100
And at first like whenever I
entered they said that, you

1466
01:23:06,100 --> 01:23:09,200
know, my equipment, I must have
been like, because they said, I

1467
01:23:09,200 --> 01:23:12,000
had a great voice but they tell
you all the time.

1468
01:23:12,000 --> 01:23:15,600
Yeah.
So he said like you just get

1469
01:23:15,600 --> 01:23:18,500
like trying to get a better Mike
Like your software or something

1470
01:23:18,500 --> 01:23:21,200
and then like well that makes
sense.

1471
01:23:21,200 --> 01:23:25,100
I mean even before we got these
new or mics for the podcast, it

1472
01:23:25,100 --> 01:23:27,900
was there was a slightly 10
equality, right?

1473
01:23:27,900 --> 01:23:30,600
Kitty other one and that does
affect it and people don't like

1474
01:23:30,600 --> 01:23:33,800
that.
So I understand this is true, so

1475
01:23:35,600 --> 01:23:38,400
his mr.
Creepypasta, his voice.

1476
01:23:38,400 --> 01:23:44,000
He like he can tell a story, he
can make he can like immerse you

1477
01:23:44,000 --> 01:23:46,700
into what he's telling you any
one of my co-workers just

1478
01:23:46,800 --> 01:23:48,800
Mentioned another person he
listened to, and he was just

1479
01:23:48,800 --> 01:23:52,600
like, who got a person on
YouTube that talks about like

1480
01:23:52,600 --> 01:23:54,300
True Crime and has a really cool
voice.

1481
01:23:54,300 --> 01:23:57,400
You just like I just want to be
that guy's friend, there's just

1482
01:23:57,400 --> 01:24:00,500
something about real people who
do this that you just love them

1483
01:24:00,800 --> 01:24:03,700
like and I say that I want to be
their friend, as I'm like also

1484
01:24:03,700 --> 01:24:06,600
in your field.
I'm like I look up to you sir

1485
01:24:06,600 --> 01:24:08,100
this lady.
We know we can meet all these

1486
01:24:08,100 --> 01:24:10,400
people who talk about all the
same creepy stuff that we talked

1487
01:24:10,400 --> 01:24:11,100
about.
Yeah.

1488
01:24:12,300 --> 01:24:16,200
But if you go onto his, if your
sub to him on YouTube, we go to

1489
01:24:16,200 --> 01:24:20,000
his YouTube, he has a playlist
owners called it's from.

1490
01:24:20,400 --> 01:24:24,400
Its from unsettling stories,
that's an author.

1491
01:24:24,700 --> 01:24:27,500
And and selling stories, I come,
I think.

1492
01:24:27,700 --> 01:24:33,800
And one of the playlist is
called runners It's about some

1493
01:24:33,800 --> 01:24:38,600
stories about some mushrooms and
yeah, and that's all I'm going

1494
01:24:38,600 --> 01:24:43,600
to talk about from that, but
like, if you want to like, fill

1495
01:24:43,600 --> 01:24:46,000
your skin crawl, here's the
problem.

1496
01:24:46,800 --> 01:24:49,400
I really like when people are
talking, but you know what, I

1497
01:24:49,400 --> 01:24:54,200
hate the like Thematic music
behind them.

1498
01:24:54,300 --> 01:24:56,200
I don't like that.
That's hard.

1499
01:24:56,200 --> 01:25:00,600
I don't like the that's part of
the atmosphere door, slams.

1500
01:25:00,600 --> 01:25:03,100
I don't like it.
Um, our seam.

1501
01:25:03,600 --> 01:25:06,000
I know it's very cool, but I
don't have to listen to that.

1502
01:25:06,000 --> 01:25:08,200
Okay.
But think you always have to our

1503
01:25:08,200 --> 01:25:11,200
theme is from a, he does
Creepypasta music.

1504
01:25:11,200 --> 01:25:17,200
That's what that person.
It's very cool, it's thematic.

1505
01:25:17,200 --> 01:25:20,200
But like, when I'm trying to
like I'm in here by myself, have

1506
01:25:20,200 --> 01:25:23,300
it on my TV?
Like, the creepy music, like

1507
01:25:23,300 --> 01:25:26,800
The, the ambience, freaks me out
sometimes more than what they're

1508
01:25:26,800 --> 01:25:31,000
talking about.
Exactly, that's the setting

1509
01:25:31,000 --> 01:25:34,200
part.
Anyway, I wasn't trying to

1510
01:25:34,200 --> 01:25:38,300
advertise for him, but no.
Apparently, he also search and

1511
01:25:38,300 --> 01:25:39,800
rescue for mr.
Creepy.

1512
01:25:39,800 --> 01:25:41,500
Yeah, that's what I'm talking
about.

1513
01:25:41,500 --> 01:25:44,300
Listen he did the yeah, yeah,
yeah.

1514
01:25:44,300 --> 01:25:47,200
Listen to it made the deal.
Like he probably made a deal

1515
01:25:47,200 --> 01:25:49,300
with the guy who?
Yeah, because there's a boat at

1516
01:25:49,300 --> 01:25:51,300
because that person who wrote
that was a huge.

1517
01:25:51,300 --> 01:25:52,400
I was a huge one.
I'm gonna sleep.

1518
01:25:52,400 --> 01:25:53,700
That's so cool.
Yep.

1519
01:25:53,700 --> 01:25:56,900
Because you have to like
negotiate prices, absolutely

1520
01:25:59,300 --> 01:26:03,500
Okay.
So anyway, and let me fanboying.

1521
01:26:07,200 --> 01:26:12,900
Let's see where was IA at.
Okay, so now, nowadays copying

1522
01:26:12,900 --> 01:26:16,800
and pasting Creepypasta.
Isn't common.

1523
01:26:17,500 --> 01:26:19,600
Now you kind of a faux pas.
Exactly.

1524
01:26:19,700 --> 01:26:24,500
So it's due to the fact that a
lot of the a lot of people who

1525
01:26:24,500 --> 01:26:28,200
make Creepypastas, nowadays are
authors and they do this for a

1526
01:26:28,208 --> 01:26:30,700
living.
Well it's a way to get people

1527
01:26:30,700 --> 01:26:32,700
spooked and interested in your
work.

1528
01:26:32,700 --> 01:26:34,600
Yeah.
And then they go oh, who wrote

1529
01:26:34,600 --> 01:26:36,000
this.
And then there's a link at the

1530
01:26:36,000 --> 01:26:39,700
bottom of the Creepypasta and
now you go to their Amazon late

1531
01:26:39,700 --> 01:26:42,100
and you see do you see the the
mystery books?

1532
01:26:42,100 --> 01:26:43,000
They've written?
Yeah.

1533
01:26:43,000 --> 01:26:45,000
You want to buy them so I
totally got it.

1534
01:26:45,000 --> 01:26:49,500
So Way to use the community so,
you know, helps your craft yeah.

1535
01:26:49,500 --> 01:26:53,200
So make sure if you want to like
start a YouTube channel or like

1536
01:26:53,200 --> 01:26:57,200
a podcast, make sure you get
permission from your ulcers,

1537
01:26:57,600 --> 01:27:00,800
please.
Before you read these know what

1538
01:27:00,800 --> 01:27:06,500
that being said, yeah, I'm going
to get into the Creepypastas.

1539
01:27:06,500 --> 01:27:09,000
I want to talk about today now
you said, one of them was from a

1540
01:27:09,000 --> 01:27:11,500
long time ago.
And is that the one that you

1541
01:27:11,500 --> 01:27:13,500
were trying to?
Yeah.

1542
01:27:13,500 --> 01:27:16,700
Find the author for yes.
Said it was on like 20 different

1543
01:27:16,700 --> 01:27:18,700
websites.
Yeah, all just said Anonymous.

1544
01:27:18,700 --> 01:27:22,900
Yes.
So now this like Britney says

1545
01:27:23,200 --> 01:27:24,400
this story.
I was lucky.

1546
01:27:24,400 --> 01:27:27,900
I am going to read to you guys
was posted by an anonymous user

1547
01:27:28,000 --> 01:27:31,300
on.
Well, not on Creepypasta.com,

1548
01:27:31,300 --> 01:27:33,400
but that's where I found it.
At first.

1549
01:27:33,500 --> 01:27:37,300
It was Post-its on
Creepypasta.com as an anonymous

1550
01:27:37,300 --> 01:27:43,200
user, I checked over the web or
for this, whoever wrote this

1551
01:27:43,200 --> 01:27:47,500
story, I couldn't I find like a
source for it.

1552
01:27:47,500 --> 01:27:51,400
I just found several sources for
the story but not, someone

1553
01:27:51,400 --> 01:27:54,100
everyone says the same thing.
Yeah, it's not like Anonymous.

1554
01:27:54,100 --> 01:27:56,800
We don't know who it came from.
So here you go.

1555
01:27:57,000 --> 01:28:00,200
I'm just going to let me see.
I'm gonna have to pull it up.

1556
01:28:00,200 --> 01:28:06,000
Oh, I'm going to read this story
before I tell you who I'm

1557
01:28:06,000 --> 01:28:08,900
covering and hopefully from the
clues of the story.

1558
01:28:09,100 --> 01:28:11,000
You guys will figure out who I'm
covering.

1559
01:28:12,700 --> 01:28:19,800
Let me go to the website first
because I did not, it's a long

1560
01:28:19,800 --> 01:28:24,200
story and I feel like writing it
all down because how dare I be

1561
01:28:24,200 --> 01:28:28,300
so lazy.
Hold on.

1562
01:28:28,600 --> 01:28:30,300
I don't want it.
I'll just be dead.

1563
01:28:34,700 --> 01:28:41,000
They go well, one sec.
Okay.

1564
01:28:42,800 --> 01:28:44,200
Ready.
Yes.

1565
01:28:44,300 --> 01:28:47,800
Okay.
So I got this story.

1566
01:28:47,800 --> 01:28:49,900
Like I said, I got the story
from Creepypasta.com.

1567
01:28:50,400 --> 01:28:53,600
If you go after I tell you who
I'm talking about, you go there,

1568
01:28:53,600 --> 01:28:56,200
you can check it out.
And yeah.

1569
01:28:57,300 --> 01:29:01,200
So without further ado, We're
going to story.

1570
01:29:04,700 --> 01:29:08,200
After waking up with a joke, the
girl laid in bed, a few seconds

1571
01:29:08,200 --> 01:29:11,500
longer reaching over the switch
on her bedside lamp.

1572
01:29:11,700 --> 01:29:15,200
She tried to remember exactly
what has stolen her sweet

1573
01:29:15,200 --> 01:29:18,600
Slumber away.
When she couldn't the brunette's

1574
01:29:18,600 --> 01:29:22,800
Winger legs over the side of the
bed and he drew self up, check

1575
01:29:22,800 --> 01:29:25,300
any time with her phone.
She snorted when she saw that,

1576
01:29:25,300 --> 01:29:27,200
it was midnight, the witching
hour.

1577
01:29:28,500 --> 01:29:31,800
Knowing their sleep would only
evade her, she left her bedroom

1578
01:29:31,800 --> 01:29:34,200
for the kitchen.
The good cup of coffee on her

1579
01:29:34,200 --> 01:29:37,100
mind as she passed.
By the front door.

1580
01:29:37,400 --> 01:29:41,800
A chills friend like Liquid Fire
down her spine, it's only

1581
01:29:41,800 --> 01:29:43,400
winter.
She thought she told herself

1582
01:29:43,800 --> 01:29:47,800
focusing again, on the coffee
plan, measuring out cups, water

1583
01:29:47,900 --> 01:29:50,500
and preparing her cup kept her
occupied.

1584
01:29:51,300 --> 01:29:55,700
But as the dark liquid boiled,
she had nothing left to keep her

1585
01:29:55,700 --> 01:29:59,600
mind from wandering off.
The chill return and she

1586
01:29:59,600 --> 01:30:02,300
couldn't help but glance behind
her to the front door.

1587
01:30:03,700 --> 01:30:06,400
It stood there.
Innocently enough just like

1588
01:30:06,400 --> 01:30:10,000
always the dead bolt was still
in place, is she could see

1589
01:30:10,000 --> 01:30:13,200
nothing amiss with it.
Turning back to her coffee.

1590
01:30:13,400 --> 01:30:17,600
She did her best to forget about
the feeling was her Cup in hand.

1591
01:30:17,700 --> 01:30:22,000
She started back towards her
bedroom and she walked by the

1592
01:30:22,000 --> 01:30:24,600
front door.
She decided that a quick glance

1593
01:30:24,900 --> 01:30:33,600
out of the peephole.
But how Co her Restless mind the

1594
01:30:33,600 --> 01:30:37,400
chill worsen with each step.
She took towards the door and

1595
01:30:37,400 --> 01:30:40,500
further away from the safety and
warmth of her blankets.

1596
01:30:41,800 --> 01:30:45,500
She pressed her empty hand
against the cold metal door, and

1597
01:30:45,500 --> 01:30:48,600
take a deep breath before,
leading her eye to the peephole.

1598
01:30:49,600 --> 01:30:53,900
And at first, she can only see
Inky Black List, Blackness and

1599
01:30:53,900 --> 01:30:57,400
somehow seeing to swirl in in in
itself.

1600
01:30:59,000 --> 01:31:03,100
When she blinked in Surprise the
void melted away, she wished.

1601
01:31:03,100 --> 01:31:06,900
It hadn't in its place there,
stood, what she could only guess

1602
01:31:07,100 --> 01:31:12,900
was once a man, the limbs were
long and inhumanly awkward with

1603
01:31:12,900 --> 01:31:16,300
bookie joints branchy golf into
several arms.

1604
01:31:17,200 --> 01:31:18,900
Not only like the branches of a
tree.

1605
01:31:19,400 --> 01:31:23,600
The creature was draped in a
black suit somehow making the

1606
01:31:23,600 --> 01:31:28,000
thing more nightmares to her.
The icing on the proverbial

1607
01:31:28,000 --> 01:31:31,400
cake.
However, was what passed as the

1608
01:31:31,400 --> 01:31:36,200
hellish things face.
It was as though her mind

1609
01:31:36,200 --> 01:31:41,300
blurred, the gas, the ghastly
Visions to spare itself for the

1610
01:31:41,300 --> 01:31:46,500
shock and horror She snubbed
her, she showed herself away

1611
01:31:46,500 --> 01:31:49,800
from the door with a hen still
pressed against it.

1612
01:31:50,200 --> 01:31:53,700
The scolding mug of coffee fell.
The liquid burning her bare

1613
01:31:53,700 --> 01:31:56,600
legs.
As she fell backwards and

1614
01:31:56,600 --> 01:31:58,800
crawled and try to crawl away
from the door.

1615
01:31:59,300 --> 01:32:02,600
She knew somehow that in her
mind that her mind.

1616
01:32:02,800 --> 01:32:07,900
God, hold on, let me read reread
that she knew somehow that her

1617
01:32:07,900 --> 01:32:09,800
mind hadn't been playing tricks
on her.

1618
01:32:10,600 --> 01:32:14,100
Or yeah, as you crowd walked
away from the door.

1619
01:32:14,400 --> 01:32:17,900
She was as tendrils as black as
the void.

1620
01:32:18,300 --> 01:32:21,000
She first saw a snake around
through the cracks.

1621
01:32:21,400 --> 01:32:27,800
Well, the girl was trapped.
The girl was trapped between the

1622
01:32:27,800 --> 01:32:31,500
instinctive, flee in the gut,
feeling to not turn her back on

1623
01:32:31,500 --> 01:32:35,700
the door.
When the door jolted, the urge

1624
01:32:35,700 --> 01:32:38,900
to flee overcame her and she
slipped into the burning.

1625
01:32:38,900 --> 01:32:42,000
She's looked into the burning
liquid, as she tried to make it

1626
01:32:42,000 --> 01:32:45,700
back to her room.
She knew deep down that she was

1627
01:32:45,700 --> 01:32:49,100
trapping herself in the corner
but she had to get away from the

1628
01:32:49,108 --> 01:32:53,300
door and she was self-aware.
The girl was halfway down the

1629
01:32:53,300 --> 01:32:58,100
hallway when she heard the / EB
the previously locked doors.

1630
01:32:58,800 --> 01:33:03,600
Sounds like when she heard a
previously locked door Creeks,

1631
01:33:03,600 --> 01:33:09,800
open she screamed and slipped
into a wall creaking crackling

1632
01:33:09,800 --> 01:33:16,300
cracking her chin on it.
In stunning, her After that, it

1633
01:33:16,300 --> 01:33:21,500
was only blackness.
Nicole a warm.

1634
01:33:21,500 --> 01:33:25,400
Oh it was a man.
It's a it's a high-pitch meals,

1635
01:33:25,400 --> 01:33:30,400
voice, whatever Nicole, a warm
meal voice, snapped a woman out

1636
01:33:30,400 --> 01:33:33,500
of her.
Trance as she turned around, she

1637
01:33:33,500 --> 01:33:39,900
was met by one of her sisters.
Doctors She nodded not sure if

1638
01:33:39,900 --> 01:33:44,300
she should say anything or even
if she could find her voice.

1639
01:33:44,600 --> 01:33:48,000
If she did set, if she did have
something to say is that

1640
01:33:48,000 --> 01:33:50,500
morning, she had gotten an
urgent phone call from the

1641
01:33:50,508 --> 01:33:53,000
hospital.
Seeing her sister Lindsay was

1642
01:33:53,000 --> 01:33:57,700
there before they had, even let
her see her, the doctors had

1643
01:33:57,700 --> 01:34:00,900
pulled her off to the side and
insisted that he talked to her

1644
01:34:00,900 --> 01:34:08,600
about what might have happened.
Excuse me, burp phrases like

1645
01:34:08,900 --> 01:34:12,400
self-inflicted and assault had
been thrown around and Nicole

1646
01:34:12,400 --> 01:34:15,800
felt her mind real.
She still hadn't fully

1647
01:34:15,900 --> 01:34:19,700
understood what had been what
they had been saying until he's

1648
01:34:20,100 --> 01:34:22,700
till she saw Lindsay was her own
eyes.

1649
01:34:23,600 --> 01:34:25,700
A little sister.
Had a bandage wrapped around her

1650
01:34:25,700 --> 01:34:29,300
head covering both of her ears
as well as her eyes.

1651
01:34:30,800 --> 01:34:34,700
They said it was to keep her.
Now, definite years out

1652
01:34:34,700 --> 01:34:37,800
definitely dead in Dedham
deaded.

1653
01:34:38,000 --> 01:34:43,100
Now dead now dead and eyes from
drying out and to try to keep

1654
01:34:43,100 --> 01:34:47,200
the infection out of the wounds
Lindsay, made to her ears.

1655
01:34:50,600 --> 01:34:53,300
The doctors had guess that
either.

1656
01:34:53,400 --> 01:34:58,300
She had someone else she or
someone else had Jenna pencil

1657
01:34:58,400 --> 01:35:02,500
into them to keep her off
balance or to defend herself

1658
01:35:02,500 --> 01:35:07,300
against something.
There was a mix of first and

1659
01:35:07,300 --> 01:35:12,100
second degree burns on her hands
legs and feet from what was

1660
01:35:12,100 --> 01:35:16,200
assumed to be the coffee.
Her neighbors found slipping all

1661
01:35:16,200 --> 01:35:20,100
over the entry of her apartment
as Nicole walked into her

1662
01:35:20,100 --> 01:35:21,500
sister's bedroom.
Room.

1663
01:35:21,800 --> 01:35:27,300
Her sisters hospital room bed.
Yes, her bedroom into her sister

1664
01:35:27,300 --> 01:35:29,900
who's hospital room.
The first time.

1665
01:35:31,000 --> 01:35:33,600
She thought she had spied the
silhouette of a man in the

1666
01:35:33,600 --> 01:35:38,000
window.
That she knew was impossible.

1667
01:35:38,700 --> 01:35:41,700
Her sister's room was on the
third story of the hospital.

1668
01:35:43,300 --> 01:35:48,700
The end credit anonymous.
That's the original story.

1669
01:35:48,800 --> 01:35:51,800
That's not it's not an original
story but it's the story that's

1670
01:35:51,800 --> 01:35:54,100
on Creepypasta.com.
What was that?

1671
01:35:54,100 --> 01:35:56,400
The first one?
It's the one that's on here

1672
01:35:56,500 --> 01:35:59,900
because see I've ever actually
read a creepypasta about

1673
01:36:00,600 --> 01:36:02,900
Slenderman.
Oh, is that who I'm talking

1674
01:36:02,900 --> 01:36:03,900
about?
Oh my god.

1675
01:36:03,900 --> 01:36:05,300
I've never actually read what
about him.

1676
01:36:05,300 --> 01:36:09,300
I just saw the pictures of, you
know, long limb, man in the

1677
01:36:09,308 --> 01:36:13,900
woods with children, the very
good photo shops that look like,

1678
01:36:13,900 --> 01:36:15,700
you know, old-timey antique
kids.

1679
01:36:15,800 --> 01:36:20,300
Yes.
Now II have to say this because

1680
01:36:21,400 --> 01:36:25,200
of what you talked about.
At first, your story in that my

1681
01:36:25,200 --> 01:36:27,600
stories they have something in
common.

1682
01:36:27,700 --> 01:36:30,400
What's that children?
Oh yeah.

1683
01:36:30,800 --> 01:36:33,000
That is true.
Yeah.

1684
01:36:34,100 --> 01:36:38,200
So what's so interesting because
I talked about the Wisconsin

1685
01:36:38,200 --> 01:36:41,500
Slenderman case on.
Yeah I know Tick-Tock couple

1686
01:36:41,500 --> 01:36:43,500
weeks ago I know.
I know, I know.

1687
01:36:44,300 --> 01:36:49,200
So I'm not sure if anybody could
tell before For we're Italy

1688
01:36:49,200 --> 01:36:52,600
spoil it.
But yes, I am talking about the

1689
01:36:52,600 --> 01:36:56,100
Slenderman.
I'm sure everybody could hear

1690
01:36:56,100 --> 01:36:57,100
that.
Yes.

1691
01:36:58,400 --> 01:37:01,900
I'm pretty sure you can guess.
Yeah, but story now the sender

1692
01:37:01,900 --> 01:37:05,600
man is a fictitious.
Bill character free to buy

1693
01:37:05,800 --> 01:37:09,000
something in a sultan.
I don't know how it's out of

1694
01:37:09,000 --> 01:37:12,000
date.
Is something awful form, a

1695
01:37:12,000 --> 01:37:13,700
function of something awful for
him.

1696
01:37:13,800 --> 01:37:16,600
Like I'm gonna I'm trying to say
like a something awful Forum

1697
01:37:16,600 --> 01:37:20,000
user but I don't know if it
sounds better like whatever.

1698
01:37:20,100 --> 01:37:22,900
But yes, a forum user from the
soffit something awful?

1699
01:37:23,800 --> 01:37:28,700
His name was oh I did not look.
Hey, this is a theme Me, I don't

1700
01:37:28,700 --> 01:37:32,500
look up names.
His name's Eric.

1701
01:37:36,300 --> 01:37:40,700
Kung.
Nope. 91 do it is, are keg.

1702
01:37:41,300 --> 01:37:42,900
That's that's that's all you got
buddy.

1703
01:37:42,900 --> 01:37:46,000
I'm sorry.
And that was, this was posted by

1704
01:37:46,000 --> 01:37:51,800
him and 2009.
The thread that this was

1705
01:37:51,800 --> 01:37:53,300
supposed to.
Then there's a Photoshop

1706
01:37:53,300 --> 01:37:57,400
contests, right, right.
So one where users were

1707
01:37:57,400 --> 01:37:59,800
challenged to make a paranormal
image?

1708
01:38:00,200 --> 01:38:04,300
So Eric made to black and white
photos with groups of children

1709
01:38:04,400 --> 01:38:08,400
and added a tall thin Spectral
figure wearing a black suit.

1710
01:38:08,900 --> 01:38:10,900
Now, these two photos had
captions.

1711
01:38:10,900 --> 01:38:16,000
Of course, I'll read one of them
to you and I have that saved.

1712
01:38:16,000 --> 01:38:18,000
My father had to call it.
Well, I love that.

1713
01:38:18,000 --> 01:38:21,100
The the pastas version though
that like it's not that his face

1714
01:38:21,100 --> 01:38:24,900
is actually blurred.
Yeah, it's that your mind is

1715
01:38:24,900 --> 01:38:27,700
trying to Shield you.
From what you say, I never

1716
01:38:27,700 --> 01:38:29,600
thought of that way.
I really thought like he was

1717
01:38:29,600 --> 01:38:32,500
just walking around with
blurryface like yeah, he can't

1718
01:38:32,500 --> 01:38:36,000
see me.
So this is one of the captions.

1719
01:38:36,100 --> 01:38:41,700
And so, one of to recover one of
two recovered photos, from this

1720
01:38:41,700 --> 01:38:46,900
starting City Library, Blaze
notable for being taken today,

1721
01:38:46,900 --> 01:38:52,300
which 14 children banished and
for what is referred to as the

1722
01:38:52,300 --> 01:38:57,800
Slender Man.
Deformities cited as film

1723
01:38:58,400 --> 01:39:02,800
defects by officials.
So, if he looks weird in the

1724
01:39:02,808 --> 01:39:06,600
picture, it's because of film
defects.

1725
01:39:07,900 --> 01:39:11,300
Do you know when that happened?
When what happened?

1726
01:39:12,100 --> 01:39:16,400
Oh, the caption is when the
caption contest was doesn't want

1727
01:39:16,400 --> 01:39:20,300
to thank ya 2001 because I
remember Slenderman becoming a

1728
01:39:20,300 --> 01:39:23,900
big deal because of Slenderman.
The page is that like weird

1729
01:39:23,900 --> 01:39:27,100
indie game where she found the
game and as he got close to you,

1730
01:39:27,100 --> 01:39:31,400
it made that loud sound.
Yes, that really felt like that

1731
01:39:31,400 --> 01:39:35,300
was the beginning of like the
fervor will be going into some

1732
01:39:35,300 --> 01:39:38,100
Slenderman sayings.
But yeah.

1733
01:39:40,600 --> 01:39:47,500
And he I guess court is potent
this picture as being from 1986

1734
01:39:48,200 --> 01:39:52,100
Mary Thomas missing since June
thirteenth, nineteen six.

1735
01:39:53,000 --> 01:39:56,000
So like this is this was for his
photo contest.

1736
01:39:56,000 --> 01:39:59,100
So he made a fake photo and, you
know, a big fake backstory to

1737
01:39:59,100 --> 01:40:01,200
it, that's fun.
Yeah.

1738
01:40:02,200 --> 01:40:08,700
Um, So after seeing these photos
more posters started to expand

1739
01:40:08,700 --> 01:40:12,400
on the character know adding
more photos to it a little bit

1740
01:40:12,400 --> 01:40:17,300
back story to it as well
Inspirations for Slenderman are

1741
01:40:18,400 --> 01:40:26,000
that that Insidious Beast by
Zach person Parson thing it's I

1742
01:40:26,000 --> 01:40:30,300
wrote an A in those icky Jack
partisan it's in and Stephen

1743
01:40:30,300 --> 01:40:37,100
King's The Mist.
Also, Shadow People Inspire them

1744
01:40:38,100 --> 01:40:42,300
and Mothman reports as well.
Hmm.

1745
01:40:44,700 --> 01:40:49,300
See.
In the Mad Gasser of Mattoon is

1746
01:40:49,300 --> 01:40:51,800
also an inspiration of Slender
Man.

1747
01:40:52,000 --> 01:40:53,400
That's so funny.
Because you know what I thought

1748
01:40:53,400 --> 01:40:55,700
of you know, Garry's Mod.
Yes.

1749
01:40:56,200 --> 01:40:59,200
You know how like the the blank
body that body.

1750
01:40:59,200 --> 01:41:01,500
That's like, it's just the kind
of a Nutty pose.

1751
01:41:01,600 --> 01:41:03,300
Yeah.
And it's just, it's, it's the

1752
01:41:03,300 --> 01:41:05,200
G-Man from Half-Life.
Yes.

1753
01:41:05,400 --> 01:41:06,900
That's what.
I always think of when I think

1754
01:41:06,900 --> 01:41:10,000
of Slenderman only just slightly
longer limbs.

1755
01:41:10,300 --> 01:41:14,300
Like when you're placing things,
you use the G-Man tifos, Could

1756
01:41:14,300 --> 01:41:18,200
you imagine that he's a G-Man?
Who else is a G-Man that I've

1757
01:41:18,200 --> 01:41:21,500
talked about before?
It all is linked together, huh?

1758
01:41:21,900 --> 01:41:24,800
I mean, you said this guy is
based off of potentially the

1759
01:41:24,800 --> 01:41:30,600
Mothman, Man, black or G, Ms.
Ms. An interesting thing.

1760
01:41:30,600 --> 01:41:34,100
Yes, my all your stories.
Why is this like expanded

1761
01:41:34,100 --> 01:41:36,000
universe situation happening
over here?

1762
01:41:36,000 --> 01:41:39,600
Marvel is go.
Oh goodness, that creepy

1763
01:41:39,600 --> 01:41:40,700
Universe.
Yes.

1764
01:41:40,700 --> 01:41:46,000
Marvel creepy universe.
So Sundar man soon viral and

1765
01:41:46,000 --> 01:41:51,300
soon started to appear on scary
ons or he's known as

1766
01:41:51,700 --> 01:41:55,500
Creepypastas.
Slender Man.

1767
01:41:56,700 --> 01:42:00,800
This is the brief description of
our slender buddy.

1768
01:42:01,900 --> 01:42:05,000
Sunday, did you notice under man
only wants a hug.

1769
01:42:06,400 --> 01:42:09,000
He also wants to eat children,
does he eat children?

1770
01:42:09,000 --> 01:42:12,400
Oh, he does.
Why did he go missing?

1771
01:42:12,400 --> 01:42:14,400
Why I never find them?
Because they're on his ballet.

1772
01:42:14,500 --> 01:42:17,100
No, no that.
Anyway this is a description of

1773
01:42:17,100 --> 01:42:21,900
those things.
So this inner man is a being, it

1774
01:42:21,900 --> 01:42:25,700
looks like it's a male who is
tall and has very long arms.

1775
01:42:26,400 --> 01:42:29,800
He can sometimes have black
tentacles that Sprout from his

1776
01:42:29,800 --> 01:42:33,000
back.
And he's always wearing a black

1777
01:42:33,000 --> 01:42:37,200
suit similar to those worn by
the Ximena in Black.

1778
01:42:39,200 --> 01:42:43,500
He is, of course, Very Thin, you
know, based off of his name.

1779
01:42:43,500 --> 01:42:46,800
Slenderman pardon me.
I have to take a drink.

1780
01:42:46,800 --> 01:42:50,000
My lips are parched and I don't
want to sound like I'm chopping

1781
01:42:50,100 --> 01:42:57,800
away.
Hmm, he could stretch his arms

1782
01:42:57,800 --> 01:43:04,100
and legs and his torso.
And his face or lack thereof, a

1783
01:43:04,100 --> 01:43:08,400
face is pale.
So if you run into this guy,

1784
01:43:08,800 --> 01:43:10,900
you're in bed for a bad time.
Just letting you know.

1785
01:43:13,300 --> 01:43:16,600
Sundar man has been known to
mainly Target children.

1786
01:43:17,600 --> 01:43:21,400
No one knows what he does with
his victims since no bodies were

1787
01:43:21,400 --> 01:43:27,700
ever found and he can also be
found and woods or Forest.

1788
01:43:28,400 --> 01:43:31,500
So maybe a more is where you
will find us under me.

1789
01:43:35,100 --> 01:43:41,800
So send me as not only appeared
in Creepypastas like Brittany

1790
01:43:41,800 --> 01:43:44,600
said, so there is there are.
Oh my god.

1791
01:43:44,700 --> 01:43:46,400
Well, that was the first one.
I remember.

1792
01:43:46,400 --> 01:43:50,100
So the last pages, the last
pages so there are games about

1793
01:43:50,100 --> 01:43:52,500
Slenderman.
There are men, those people made

1794
01:43:52,500 --> 01:43:57,200
like a big they made Slenderman
arrival, which was like a 3D

1795
01:43:57,200 --> 01:43:59,900
version, not a.
Yeah, because the first one was

1796
01:43:59,900 --> 01:44:04,900
like a super low budget.
They expanded it.

1797
01:44:04,900 --> 01:44:06,700
That one was weird.
At one point.

1798
01:44:06,700 --> 01:44:09,200
You were running away from a non
Slender Man.

1799
01:44:09,200 --> 01:44:12,000
Monster a different mom excited
like a warehouse.

1800
01:44:12,000 --> 01:44:14,900
So it's peculiar not really my
kind of game.

1801
01:44:15,200 --> 01:44:17,100
They're here.
They're different like sub

1802
01:44:17,100 --> 01:44:20,900
squares are not my funeral sort
of like just under main lost

1803
01:44:20,900 --> 01:44:29,900
Pages game.
No speaker and sounds all over

1804
01:44:29,900 --> 01:44:34,500
the apartment.
But if you've watched YouTube

1805
01:44:35,400 --> 01:44:40,500
ever in your life and you looked
up Slenderman, you've probably

1806
01:44:40,700 --> 01:44:44,000
come across come across the
Marble Hornets.

1807
01:44:44,500 --> 01:44:46,300
Web series.
Have you?

1808
01:44:46,300 --> 01:44:49,000
You've not heard a warmer you've
not heard of Marble Hornets.

1809
01:44:49,500 --> 01:44:51,400
Okay.
I'm not going to go that deep

1810
01:44:51,400 --> 01:44:55,400
into it.
So they made videos about this

1811
01:44:55,400 --> 01:44:56,600
guy.
Some, of course.

1812
01:44:57,100 --> 01:45:00,900
So if you haven't come across
the Majesty, don't remember the

1813
01:45:00,900 --> 01:45:04,500
name of the channel.
Yeah, so if you haven't heard of

1814
01:45:04,500 --> 01:45:07,000
Marble Hornets, YouTube web
series about Sunder man.

1815
01:45:08,000 --> 01:45:10,200
A couple.
I guess I want to say they're

1816
01:45:10,200 --> 01:45:17,000
college-aged kids at the
beginning of the series, they

1817
01:45:17,500 --> 01:45:21,000
the ones one of the kids, one of
the guys, he goes back to look

1818
01:45:21,000 --> 01:45:26,900
at a short movie that they had
made, it's called Marble Hornets

1819
01:45:27,000 --> 01:45:30,400
and they wondering he's
wondering what had happened to

1820
01:45:30,400 --> 01:45:31,800
it.
Not being finished and stuff.

1821
01:45:32,300 --> 01:45:38,100
And then this leads to him like
noticing this person that would

1822
01:45:38,100 --> 01:45:42,000
appear in the series of films
that they made.

1823
01:45:42,600 --> 01:45:47,800
And this is the Slender Man and
the Slenderman.

1824
01:45:48,000 --> 01:45:52,000
So they more or Hornets what
they did.

1825
01:45:52,000 --> 01:45:54,900
I mean, like, okay, I'm just
gonna throw this out there, you

1826
01:45:54,900 --> 01:45:57,900
know, it's funny.
You just it's been in my head

1827
01:45:57,900 --> 01:46:01,900
for since you started talking
about this boy in a band, did a

1828
01:46:02,000 --> 01:46:05,700
Song called hello monster.
And one of the monsters they're

1829
01:46:05,700 --> 01:46:10,900
talking to is Slender Man and
markiplier does the voice part

1830
01:46:10,900 --> 01:46:12,500
of that part?
Really?

1831
01:46:12,700 --> 01:46:17,100
What Slenderman to be my friend?
Or man, we can take those.

1832
01:46:17,300 --> 01:46:20,300
We can take a road trip and a
Slender Man, and I just have

1833
01:46:20,300 --> 01:46:23,800
been that part has been going
through my head since you

1834
01:46:23,800 --> 01:46:27,100
started talking he does such a
good voice for, he's not a

1835
01:46:27,108 --> 01:46:30,200
singer but oh my God.
Like I'm like, oh goodness,

1836
01:46:30,800 --> 01:46:34,400
listen, I love.
Of any sort of like game music.

1837
01:46:34,400 --> 01:46:37,700
So there's so many like horror
game songs I have in my head and

1838
01:46:37,700 --> 01:46:39,300
that was of course based off of
that.

1839
01:46:39,300 --> 01:46:42,800
Yes both kind of hello monster
know if you see me if you watch

1840
01:46:42,800 --> 01:46:47,500
YouTube you know who Markiplier
is and markimoo is the best.

1841
01:46:49,500 --> 01:46:51,400
I love his voice.
I love watching, might be

1842
01:46:51,400 --> 01:46:52,900
unashamed Fanboys.
Yes.

1843
01:46:52,900 --> 01:46:56,800
Oh here I'll fan boy for his
episode for everybody and great

1844
01:46:57,200 --> 01:47:00,100
except for Marble Hornets.
I mean their web series was a

1845
01:47:00,100 --> 01:47:04,800
good website, maybe it was okay.
It was just like a thing that

1846
01:47:04,800 --> 01:47:08,800
some people made, like, a good,
we call this like a fat, like a

1847
01:47:09,300 --> 01:47:13,400
college movie, you know, sort of
like a little movie that people

1848
01:47:13,400 --> 01:47:14,700
met while they were in school or
something.

1849
01:47:14,700 --> 01:47:17,800
Like this is a long series.
I forget how many episodes like

1850
01:47:18,000 --> 01:47:20,600
we're in the series but it's a
very long series.

1851
01:47:20,600 --> 01:47:22,700
They it's funny.
It kind of gives me a little bit

1852
01:47:22,700 --> 01:47:25,400
of it Vibes.
Yeah.

1853
01:47:25,400 --> 01:47:27,600
Okay.
Like they go back and heads.

1854
01:47:27,600 --> 01:47:30,000
They are like, oh this thing
happened when we were young and

1855
01:47:30,000 --> 01:47:31,400
now we're looking at it as a
dull.

1856
01:47:31,400 --> 01:47:33,300
Yeah.
Yeah, that's kind of what this

1857
01:47:33,300 --> 01:47:38,100
is about.
So two things that the Marble

1858
01:47:38,100 --> 01:47:41,300
Hornets like introduced in their
website.

1859
01:47:41,600 --> 01:47:42,200
Yeah.
Okay.

1860
01:47:42,700 --> 01:47:48,200
We're that Slender Man if you
look at like him through like

1861
01:47:48,700 --> 01:47:51,600
videos or something like that,
he will start appearing to you.

1862
01:47:51,700 --> 01:47:54,600
Okay?
So the distance and another

1863
01:47:54,600 --> 01:47:59,000
thing that Marble Hornets like
kind of introduced to the Mythos

1864
01:47:59,000 --> 01:48:03,500
of Slender Man were proxies I
just wondered.

1865
01:48:03,800 --> 01:48:06,000
Oh is that where those little
girls?

1866
01:48:06,000 --> 01:48:08,500
Got that idea from possibly?
Okay.

1867
01:48:08,500 --> 01:48:11,600
Well they never understood why
they thought they could be

1868
01:48:11,900 --> 01:48:14,500
proxies of the Slender Man.
I'm like I don't remember that

1869
01:48:14,500 --> 01:48:18,200
being a part of the game but I
could just be a little bit too

1870
01:48:18,200 --> 01:48:21,800
old at this point to like I mean
they were what 12 and like 13.

1871
01:48:21,800 --> 01:48:25,600
Yeah.
So if you're no proxies are

1872
01:48:25,600 --> 01:48:27,300
foxes.
Are basically people who fall

1873
01:48:27,300 --> 01:48:29,900
under someone's control like
puppets.

1874
01:48:30,300 --> 01:48:33,800
So they were young again.
Talking about puppets, I know,

1875
01:48:33,800 --> 01:48:37,500
right?
Proxies proxies other Slenderman

1876
01:48:37,500 --> 01:48:39,700
are basically being controlled
by this under main.

1877
01:48:40,200 --> 01:48:43,600
Now, why do I bring up proxies
well britni kind of mentioned

1878
01:48:43,600 --> 01:48:47,000
that already twice?
Actually, if you're not picking

1879
01:48:47,000 --> 01:48:52,400
up on The Vibes and trying to
give to you, well on May 31st 30

1880
01:48:52,400 --> 01:48:55,900
days before my birthday.
Wait 30 days.

1881
01:48:55,900 --> 01:48:57,800
After your birth certificate,
he's after over?

1882
01:48:57,800 --> 01:48:59,100
T.
Yeah, birthday.

1883
01:48:59,100 --> 01:49:06,300
When you do shush In 2014 in
with Kusha.

1884
01:49:06,900 --> 01:49:07,900
Yep.
What Kasha.

1885
01:49:08,000 --> 01:49:10,200
Yes.
Because you always get yelled at

1886
01:49:10,200 --> 01:49:11,600
because I called it.
What Kesha?

1887
01:49:11,600 --> 01:49:14,600
And everyone on the internet.
Got mad at me for like a week.

1888
01:49:15,300 --> 01:49:17,800
Oh my God.
Yes I it's kosher.

1889
01:49:17,900 --> 01:49:23,100
It is a Kesha.
Yes, because show yes, two young

1890
01:49:23,100 --> 01:49:25,500
girls.
They would Laura's our friend

1891
01:49:25,500 --> 01:49:29,100
into the woods where they would
stabbed her 19 times.

1892
01:49:30,500 --> 01:49:34,600
They thought that g though, He
dragged herself out of the woods

1893
01:49:34,600 --> 01:49:36,500
to the side of the road and flag
somebody down.

1894
01:49:36,500 --> 01:49:40,800
Yeah, that girl wanted to live
so the girls are too young

1895
01:49:40,800 --> 01:49:42,400
girls.
It would be 12 years old.

1896
01:49:42,400 --> 01:49:44,500
They're like 12 and 13.
Yeah, they're really young.

1897
01:49:44,500 --> 01:49:48,000
So they thought that if they
sacrifice their friend, that

1898
01:49:48,000 --> 01:49:50,200
they would become proxies of the
Slender, Man.

1899
01:49:51,300 --> 01:49:54,300
I'm not going to go too much
into this, not too much more

1900
01:49:54,300 --> 01:49:56,100
into this.
There's a really good

1901
01:49:56,100 --> 01:49:58,400
documentary that HBO did a
couple of years ago.

1902
01:49:58,400 --> 01:50:02,500
That goes into the two girls and
the life and The lives.

1903
01:50:02,500 --> 01:50:05,400
They led up to it and you know
what?

1904
01:50:05,400 --> 01:50:06,900
Really kind of brought them to
it.

1905
01:50:06,900 --> 01:50:09,900
Yeah.
So if you like checking in on

1906
01:50:09,900 --> 01:50:13,000
them, seeing how they're doing
now and 2021, I think I heard

1907
01:50:13,000 --> 01:50:16,200
like update of them like a while
ago but I forget what I did.

1908
01:50:16,200 --> 01:50:18,800
See, an article from the girl
who was attacked and yeah, that

1909
01:50:18,800 --> 01:50:20,800
too.
She said that she's entering

1910
01:50:20,800 --> 01:50:25,000
medicine because she really
liked how she was treated in the

1911
01:50:25,000 --> 01:50:27,200
hospital after when she was
recovering.

1912
01:50:27,600 --> 01:50:29,600
And she said that she was going
to do something with her life

1913
01:50:29,600 --> 01:50:31,300
involving Madison.
There you go.

1914
01:50:31,300 --> 01:50:33,400
And they were like What do you
think about your two former

1915
01:50:33,400 --> 01:50:34,500
friends?
And she's like, I don't think

1916
01:50:34,500 --> 01:50:36,500
about them.
And I'm like, okay, girl.

1917
01:50:36,500 --> 01:50:39,700
Yeah, you go.
That's the right mentality.

1918
01:50:39,700 --> 01:50:43,500
So, if you guys would like to
know more about this story,

1919
01:50:45,900 --> 01:50:51,000
there are documentaries about
this and I don't know, check out

1920
01:50:51,000 --> 01:50:54,700
Tick-Tock and Brittany has done
a video about this.

1921
01:50:54,800 --> 01:50:58,800
Yeah, it says, right of my
children that kill series.

1922
01:50:58,800 --> 01:51:00,200
Yes.
Children that kill or try to

1923
01:51:00,200 --> 01:51:02,800
kill ya.
And that case at Particular.

1924
01:51:02,800 --> 01:51:04,700
Yes.
How's the discuss?

1925
01:51:04,700 --> 01:51:06,800
Those kids in Alaska.
Who randomly thought they were

1926
01:51:06,800 --> 01:51:09,800
going to poison their friend and
they didn't use there.

1927
01:51:09,800 --> 01:51:11,300
Anything.
That was poison.

1928
01:51:11,500 --> 01:51:18,000
Yes, they just were weird.
No, I've only seen two movies

1929
01:51:18,000 --> 01:51:20,400
about the Slenderman.
I don't think I've seen any

1930
01:51:20,400 --> 01:51:23,800
movies about.
Yeah, I forget.

1931
01:51:23,800 --> 01:51:26,600
I think I watch one on HBO, and
the other one was probably on

1932
01:51:26,600 --> 01:51:29,300
Netflix, at one point like
fictional style.

1933
01:51:29,300 --> 01:51:31,900
Yeah, definitely the fictional
movies about Sunday.

1934
01:51:32,100 --> 01:51:38,300
Man one was basically a okay
maybe that was like a no, no one

1935
01:51:38,300 --> 01:51:41,000
was basically about the little
girl.

1936
01:51:41,000 --> 01:51:45,300
What Crush?
Ya story and like it was just

1937
01:51:45,300 --> 01:51:46,800
fictionalized.
Okay.

1938
01:51:46,800 --> 01:51:49,100
Oh, you know what I did hear
about that.

1939
01:51:49,100 --> 01:51:51,500
Yeah, I thought that was kind of
important.

1940
01:51:51,800 --> 01:51:53,800
Yeah.
To make a story about I'm like

1941
01:51:53,800 --> 01:51:55,500
this girls alone, it's only been
a couple of years.

1942
01:51:55,500 --> 01:51:56,600
Really, making a movie about
this.

1943
01:51:56,600 --> 01:51:58,600
Yeah, I vote.
We can make a Slender Man movie.

1944
01:51:58,600 --> 01:52:01,900
That's interesting.
And not about you Hootie.

1945
01:52:02,100 --> 01:52:04,300
Like preteen girls trying to
kill their best friend.

1946
01:52:04,300 --> 01:52:07,400
Like the first one is so it was
not good.

1947
01:52:08,200 --> 01:52:12,000
Are they ever know?
Listen, I'd love a good d-rated

1948
01:52:12,000 --> 01:52:14,500
horror flick.
Like I wish like I think the

1949
01:52:14,508 --> 01:52:17,400
second one I saw wasn't too bad
that I could actually sit

1950
01:52:17,400 --> 01:52:20,300
through and watch it.
But other than that, like, I

1951
01:52:20,300 --> 01:52:23,100
think someone else could do a
better job at making a Slender

1952
01:52:23,100 --> 01:52:26,300
Man movie.
I feel like the fervor has

1953
01:52:26,300 --> 01:52:28,200
really passed.
Come on.

1954
01:52:28,200 --> 01:52:29,500
He's like, this is classic
though.

1955
01:52:29,500 --> 01:52:31,300
He's a classic.
I agree with you.

1956
01:52:31,300 --> 01:52:32,500
He is a class.
Cick.

1957
01:52:33,100 --> 01:52:38,700
Yeah, Slenderman is like, he's
basically everywhere, you know,

1958
01:52:39,000 --> 01:52:42,400
at first, I think I've heard
like series about.

1959
01:52:42,400 --> 01:52:46,600
Have you ever played Minecraft?
The Enderman Enderman does have

1960
01:52:46,600 --> 01:52:48,600
the same kind of arms as Slender
Man?

1961
01:52:48,600 --> 01:52:52,300
And the name is very similar to
and he teleports just like their

1962
01:52:52,300 --> 01:52:54,900
Slender Man.
Can tell or as well, only have

1963
01:52:54,900 --> 01:52:58,700
you ever made an Enderman angry.
Yes, he growls at you and it is

1964
01:52:58,700 --> 01:53:01,000
very frightening.
When you're just like listen I'm

1965
01:53:01,000 --> 01:53:03,900
just The worst thing is, when
you're like, you know what?

1966
01:53:03,900 --> 01:53:07,200
I forgot to put up torches in my
house.

1967
01:53:07,200 --> 01:53:08,600
Yeah.
And you wake up and there's an

1968
01:53:08,600 --> 01:53:12,500
Enderman inside of your house, I
need you to leave, buddy.

1969
01:53:12,800 --> 01:53:15,500
I'm trying to live here.
Yeah, you get too close to it

1970
01:53:15,500 --> 01:53:19,600
and it just growls that you like
just don't look at it gets mad

1971
01:53:19,600 --> 01:53:21,300
when you stare at it and then it
kills you.

1972
01:53:21,300 --> 01:53:24,200
Yeah, they will, which is great,
because then you just, you know,

1973
01:53:24,200 --> 01:53:27,400
respawn in your house where it
still is.

1974
01:53:28,600 --> 01:53:32,000
So good luck to that, but I'm
yes under man appears like A lot

1975
01:53:32,000 --> 01:53:35,500
of places there have been cameos
of him like, everywhere should

1976
01:53:35,500 --> 01:53:39,300
look that up.
Yeah, I like the reason why I

1977
01:53:39,300 --> 01:53:42,000
said, like, there's a song about
Slenderman.

1978
01:53:42,000 --> 01:53:43,700
Well, there's a few songs about
sun to me.

1979
01:53:44,300 --> 01:53:48,700
I have one on my Spotify.
It's a Dubstep Mix of sundry, be

1980
01:53:48,700 --> 01:53:52,300
good, it's great.
Oh, but like Animation

1981
01:53:52,300 --> 01:53:55,900
Domination, there's a song about
Slenderman.

1982
01:53:55,900 --> 01:53:57,800
Okay?
He only wants a hug that's all.

1983
01:53:58,600 --> 01:54:01,100
So I'm really was a hug.
Well, that's the fun part about

1984
01:54:01,100 --> 01:54:03,000
that song.
I was Talking about like, if the

1985
01:54:03,000 --> 01:54:05,100
person talking to a Monster.
Yeah.

1986
01:54:05,100 --> 01:54:06,500
And they're like, I just want to
be your friend.

1987
01:54:06,500 --> 01:54:08,900
Let's go do something nice but
the monster just wants to eat

1988
01:54:08,900 --> 01:54:11,400
you.
Yeah, lovely.

1989
01:54:11,900 --> 01:54:13,700
Okay.
So even though Slenderman's of

1990
01:54:13,700 --> 01:54:18,000
fixed his Channel character,
there are actually some real

1991
01:54:18,000 --> 01:54:24,200
life historical references that
That reference to something that

1992
01:54:24,200 --> 01:54:26,300
looks like this guy.
Oh, I'm interested.

1993
01:54:26,400 --> 01:54:29,500
So A resilient.
Okay.

1994
01:54:29,500 --> 01:54:32,100
So I found this stuff on
Creepypasta.com okay?

1995
01:54:32,400 --> 01:54:34,900
So if you scroll down Slenderman
you'll see all the stuff I'm

1996
01:54:34,900 --> 01:54:37,800
talking about.
So, Brazilian cave painting,

1997
01:54:37,800 --> 01:54:41,000
depicts a creature with
elongated limbs in multiple

1998
01:54:41,000 --> 01:54:44,000
appendages.
Leading a child by the hand.

1999
01:54:45,000 --> 01:54:50,200
This dates back to as far as
19,000 9000 BC as was in

2000
01:54:50,200 --> 01:54:56,100
nineteen thousand, BC did I
definitely see ya because also a

2001
01:54:56,600 --> 01:55:00,500
Romanian Fair.
So that also tells the legend of

2002
01:55:00,500 --> 01:55:06,000
the tall man, he story about a
creature wearing Noble closing,

2003
01:55:07,200 --> 01:55:13,400
we had snake-like arms and yeah
now there's also an English tale

2004
01:55:13,800 --> 01:55:19,400
about a tree man.
Slim body tree branch like arms

2005
01:55:19,900 --> 01:55:23,600
and he takes children so they
all take kids.

2006
01:55:23,600 --> 01:55:24,700
Yeah.
Thats what you?

2007
01:55:24,700 --> 01:55:27,400
But that's the thing about that
story you write that was an

2008
01:55:27,400 --> 01:55:28,300
older.
A lady.

2009
01:55:28,600 --> 01:55:30,600
This is true.
This is weird.

2010
01:55:30,600 --> 01:55:32,200
I was looking, he's appeared out
of nowhere.

2011
01:55:32,300 --> 01:55:35,300
Also that one brought up the
tentacles.

2012
01:55:35,300 --> 01:55:39,000
Yeah, I know.
So some people think the

2013
01:55:39,000 --> 01:55:43,000
sentiment doesn't have tentacles
or tendrils, I just happen to

2014
01:55:43,000 --> 01:55:45,400
very much like tentacles.
So oh my goodness.

2015
01:55:46,700 --> 01:55:48,000
Who am I gonna tell that?
That's it.

2016
01:55:48,100 --> 01:55:50,800
That's the next thing I'm going
to do is make some tentacle

2017
01:55:50,800 --> 01:55:58,200
earrings.
Now the son of man isn't The my

2018
01:55:58,200 --> 01:56:01,900
favorite Creepypastas, but it's
one that's like good for a

2019
01:56:01,900 --> 01:56:04,600
scare.
It's got a long history for

2020
01:56:04,600 --> 01:56:09,000
something that's only been like
10 years old like in the future.

2021
01:56:09,000 --> 01:56:12,700
I swear like our children's
children will hear fairy tales

2022
01:56:12,700 --> 01:56:18,200
about the Slender, Man, and we
should because, okay, when I was

2023
01:56:18,200 --> 01:56:21,300
on the phone with you earlier, I
was looking up.

2024
01:56:22,100 --> 01:56:24,400
Oh yeah.
You said your your kid almost

2025
01:56:24,400 --> 01:56:25,400
spoiled at.
Yeah.

2026
01:56:25,600 --> 01:56:31,700
So, and And my kids are very
tech savvy and they had been on

2027
01:56:31,700 --> 01:56:35,700
YouTube quite often and they run
into the Creepypastas one of my

2028
01:56:35,700 --> 01:56:38,000
son.
Technically.

2029
01:56:38,000 --> 01:56:39,700
Yes.
And then my daughter gets it

2030
01:56:39,700 --> 01:56:41,900
from him.
Also YouTube.

2031
01:56:42,000 --> 01:56:45,800
Yeah, YouTube.
So he knows all about Slenderman

2032
01:56:46,100 --> 01:56:47,400
interests.
He'll ask you.

2033
01:56:47,600 --> 01:56:51,200
If you if you met him, if you
meet him who asked you?

2034
01:56:51,200 --> 01:56:53,500
Do you know about Slenderman?
Oh dear.

2035
01:56:53,900 --> 01:56:58,100
Do you know about scp-008?
90.

2036
01:56:58,800 --> 01:57:02,500
He likes 089, he was about, he
goes, he know, he likes like

2037
01:57:02,500 --> 01:57:04,900
scary stuff, but he's asking my
favorite SCP.

2038
01:57:04,900 --> 01:57:06,700
But all right.
Okay, it's not his.

2039
01:57:06,700 --> 01:57:08,300
But I'm just bringing up one
day.

2040
01:57:08,600 --> 01:57:10,400
He would talk about or something
like that.

2041
01:57:10,400 --> 01:57:13,400
He likes to lizard one.
I think the lizard that can't be

2042
01:57:13,400 --> 01:57:14,100
killed.
Yeah.

2043
01:57:14,100 --> 01:57:16,500
Or I love that one.
You like so shy guy, too?

2044
01:57:16,700 --> 01:57:18,900
Oh, I don't like the shy guy and
he likes talking about shy guy.

2045
01:57:18,900 --> 01:57:20,500
He's like, you know about the
shy guy, daddy.

2046
01:57:20,500 --> 01:57:23,800
It was like yes, g9o s.
Yes.

2047
01:57:26,700 --> 01:57:30,100
Actually, one of my favorite
scps is just the monkey the

2048
01:57:30,100 --> 01:57:32,600
little because I just love that
like the monkey reward.

2049
01:57:32,600 --> 01:57:35,800
You like you have done a good
prank if the monkey appears on

2050
01:57:35,800 --> 01:57:37,300
your desk.
This is true.

2051
01:57:37,300 --> 01:57:38,300
Yes.
Okay, yes.

2052
01:57:38,300 --> 01:57:39,800
Yeah.
Like, that was adorable.

2053
01:57:40,000 --> 01:57:43,100
I'm like, you know that you did
a good job the monkey approves.

2054
01:57:43,200 --> 01:57:46,000
If he appears on your desk, you
are the winner for the day of

2055
01:57:46,000 --> 01:57:50,400
the prank war.
My favorite SCP is, of course,

2056
01:57:50,400 --> 01:57:53,600
the teddy bear that creates
other little replica.

2057
01:57:53,600 --> 01:57:55,500
Teddy bears of itself.
Oh, I think I know you're

2058
01:57:55,500 --> 01:57:57,700
talking about.
And there's also the patchwork

2059
01:57:57,700 --> 01:57:59,600
teddy bear.
That's also really, really

2060
01:57:59,600 --> 01:58:02,100
interesting.
Because it can like make

2061
01:58:02,100 --> 01:58:06,600
Patchwork of different organs
that you're missing so you like

2062
01:58:06,600 --> 01:58:09,100
oh I think I do remember that.
Yeah, yeah.

2063
01:58:09,100 --> 01:58:12,800
Like one day I'll read about
some scps on here, too.

2064
01:58:12,800 --> 01:58:18,200
Because like, I really love to
be an SCP day as we both discuss

2065
01:58:18,200 --> 01:58:19,500
our favorite one.
Who my God.

2066
01:58:19,500 --> 01:58:26,700
Yes, SCP episode.
Okay, so yes, yes, We're just

2067
01:58:26,700 --> 01:58:28,900
going to do that one day now,
you line.

2068
01:58:29,700 --> 01:58:32,200
So the last and a half to just
sit and listen to me, talk about

2069
01:58:32,200 --> 01:58:34,300
the Ikea.
I love the Ikea.

2070
01:58:34,300 --> 01:58:36,900
One of those interesting is it's
a really really great one.

2071
01:58:38,700 --> 01:58:42,000
The last Creepy Pasta I'll be
talking about is someone fairly

2072
01:58:42,000 --> 01:58:45,300
new?
No I'd say like a year or two I

2073
01:58:45,300 --> 01:58:47,300
don't know.
What year did you come out 2018?

2074
01:58:47,500 --> 01:58:54,800
So Is a couple a few years old.
So I've even used this one to

2075
01:58:54,800 --> 01:58:58,600
scare my kids.
Look, we were outside.

2076
01:58:59,200 --> 01:59:02,000
They weren't listening.
I don't care.

2077
01:59:02,000 --> 01:59:03,300
Y'all can judge me.
All you want?

2078
01:59:03,300 --> 01:59:06,100
They don't listen.
I say blank blank is coming.

2079
01:59:06,100 --> 01:59:09,400
You don't you hear that blank
blank is coming in?

2080
01:59:09,400 --> 01:59:15,300
Like I'm like, yeah.
Oh.

2081
01:59:17,900 --> 01:59:21,800
So who who less care?
My children was well, I scared

2082
01:59:21,800 --> 01:59:25,800
and went siren head.
You've not heard a siren head.

2083
01:59:26,400 --> 01:59:31,400
Oh goodness.
So yeah like there we we live

2084
01:59:31,400 --> 01:59:37,900
near a fire department so
whenever Sirens are going off I

2085
01:59:37,900 --> 01:59:39,900
mean technically everybody does.
Yeah.

2086
01:59:40,300 --> 01:59:43,700
This is true but like some are
horrible.

2087
01:59:43,800 --> 01:59:46,800
No like right up like a couple
of like a block away from like

2088
01:59:46,800 --> 01:59:50,400
fire department but so like the
the you know Summers would go

2089
01:59:50,400 --> 01:59:53,500
off and like you guys hear that
siren head anyway?

2090
01:59:54,100 --> 01:59:55,500
Like yeah, you better listen to
me.

2091
01:59:55,500 --> 01:59:57,300
He's all come and get you guys.
You'd like to taking care of

2092
01:59:57,308 --> 02:00:00,600
your kids.
Oh my goodness, shush.

2093
02:00:03,700 --> 02:00:05,100
Oh my God.
All right.

2094
02:00:05,100 --> 02:00:09,300
So I chose this one because well
I'm sorry has an interesting

2095
02:00:09,300 --> 02:00:13,000
creature.
So siren, head is the creation

2096
02:00:13,000 --> 02:00:16,200
of an artist named Trevor
Henderson.

2097
02:00:17,100 --> 02:00:20,300
He's a Canadian artist.
Is this another one of those

2098
02:00:20,300 --> 02:00:23,400
weird paintings?
Okay, it is a painting.

2099
02:00:23,400 --> 02:00:27,400
He does.
A lot of creepy artwork that one

2100
02:00:27,400 --> 02:00:29,100
painting was horrendous.
Yeah, I know.

2101
02:00:29,100 --> 02:00:32,500
But like, check this guy's work
out, like, seriously, check it

2102
02:00:32,500 --> 02:00:37,600
out because like, anybody listen
to the sound of my voice, go to

2103
02:00:37,600 --> 02:00:43,500
his website, Trevor Henderson,
Trevor Henderson.com, and you'll

2104
02:00:43,500 --> 02:00:45,100
see all the creepy, our work on
it.

2105
02:00:45,100 --> 02:00:48,700
And so fantastic.
And I am advertising for this

2106
02:00:48,700 --> 02:00:51,200
guy as well because I don't
care.

2107
02:00:51,200 --> 02:00:57,800
Italy, Oh because his work is
really great.

2108
02:00:59,000 --> 02:01:04,400
So siren heads the creature that
stands about 30 to 40 meters

2109
02:01:04,400 --> 02:01:10,900
tall, that's about 98 meet 98
feet to 130 feet tall.

2110
02:01:11,600 --> 02:01:19,300
So he's big, he has no muscle
mass, no, no fat on his body

2111
02:01:19,300 --> 02:01:25,200
he's a skeletal mummy.
Looking type of Your is body,

2112
02:01:25,200 --> 02:01:27,300
actually?
Reminds me of if you've ever

2113
02:01:27,300 --> 02:01:32,100
played The Legend of Zelda, the
redeads in Legend, is own.

2114
02:01:32,100 --> 02:01:36,000
Allows our holler bodies are
mummified looking things.

2115
02:01:38,600 --> 02:01:41,500
And So based off of its name,
what do you think's?

2116
02:01:41,500 --> 02:01:46,900
Top of his head?
He is not one, but two Sirens,

2117
02:01:47,600 --> 02:01:51,100
two twin Sirens that are part of
his head with teeth.

2118
02:01:51,900 --> 02:01:57,000
So sorry, he is able to mimic.
Various sounds from static to

2119
02:01:57,000 --> 02:02:02,100
human voices and everything in
between there have been multiple

2120
02:02:02,100 --> 02:02:07,800
Creepypastas based around siren
head also multiple games about

2121
02:02:07,800 --> 02:02:08,600
siren.
Head.

2122
02:02:10,400 --> 02:02:16,500
And some people may think that
he's an SCP but sorry head is

2123
02:02:16,500 --> 02:02:22,200
not an SCP, he's not real.
He is it fictional Artist

2124
02:02:22,200 --> 02:02:26,800
drawing / Creepypasta nowadays,
because like, just like,

2125
02:02:26,800 --> 02:02:30,800
Slenderman people saw a picture
and they create a story behind

2126
02:02:30,800 --> 02:02:31,700
it.
Gotcha.

2127
02:02:33,400 --> 02:02:37,400
So there are also some awesome
short films about cyber head.

2128
02:02:37,400 --> 02:02:41,600
I just watch when I was
researching this one it was like

2129
02:02:41,600 --> 02:02:47,600
a five minute video about it and
basically this guy he was riding

2130
02:02:48,200 --> 02:02:51,600
out in the countryside and on
his motorcycle he gets a flat

2131
02:02:51,600 --> 02:02:57,200
tire and he hears somebody like
in the woods calling like hey

2132
02:02:58,900 --> 02:03:01,700
and he's looking around and then
all of a sudden he hears a

2133
02:03:01,700 --> 02:03:06,500
tornado sound going off the
siren a tornado siren.

2134
02:03:06,500 --> 02:03:12,900
Yeah and all of a sudden he
ceases big giant gigantic.

2135
02:03:14,300 --> 02:03:20,000
Emaciated siren, headed, monster
standing behind him, and it

2136
02:03:20,000 --> 02:03:23,600
eventually, eats them bummer.
But yeah.

2137
02:03:24,600 --> 02:03:29,200
So siren head.
It's a mimic type monster.

2138
02:03:30,100 --> 02:03:32,400
It's a mimic like in D&D sort
of?

2139
02:03:32,400 --> 02:03:34,800
Yes, it's like it.
Mimic it.

2140
02:03:34,800 --> 02:03:38,600
Mimics like gesturing like that,
but it mimics trees if it's, in

2141
02:03:38,600 --> 02:03:41,200
the woods.
So that's where it mainly stays

2142
02:03:41,200 --> 02:03:42,900
at.
So it's as tall as a tree.

2143
02:03:43,300 --> 02:03:45,300
It looks like Tree.
If you're not really, if you

2144
02:03:45,300 --> 02:03:52,200
really can't see it, especially
at night, But yeah, it's a mimic

2145
02:03:52,400 --> 02:03:57,300
and it can mimic voice is people
that, you know, people that I

2146
02:03:57,300 --> 02:04:00,700
would know, like someone that we
wouldn't know and just calling

2147
02:04:00,700 --> 02:04:02,500
out for help or something like
that, right?

2148
02:04:02,600 --> 02:04:06,600
Or just like radium sequence.
He's the sequence is God, can

2149
02:04:06,600 --> 02:04:12,700
talk.
Apparently, there are also

2150
02:04:12,700 --> 02:04:15,500
different variants of siren
head.

2151
02:04:15,600 --> 02:04:17,100
Okay.
That were made.

2152
02:04:17,700 --> 02:04:21,000
The I haven't read about
apparently there's a blood siren

2153
02:04:21,000 --> 02:04:24,100
head and Ice siren head.
Cool.

2154
02:04:24,100 --> 02:04:27,500
Yeah.
I don't know about those though.

2155
02:04:29,100 --> 02:04:32,200
He were honest.
What I thought this looked like

2156
02:04:32,500 --> 02:04:35,700
in my head, not at all what this
looks like in picture.

2157
02:04:35,800 --> 02:04:38,900
No, this is much worse.
Yeah.

2158
02:04:39,100 --> 02:04:42,300
It is.
Imagine running into him in the

2159
02:04:42,308 --> 02:04:45,500
woods.
We can't be out here siren going

2160
02:04:45,500 --> 02:04:47,200
off.
There's no Sirens around here.

2161
02:04:47,200 --> 02:04:50,500
What the hell's going on?
Honestly, this is it's like

2162
02:04:50,700 --> 02:04:53,700
sinewy, like muscle.
Yes.

2163
02:04:53,700 --> 02:04:56,900
And there's a mouth and it's
siren ear.

2164
02:04:58,000 --> 02:05:01,800
Oh, it's horrible.
Oh, so yeah.

2165
02:05:01,800 --> 02:05:08,300
I don't know what the purpose of
siren head is, like, his

2166
02:05:08,300 --> 02:05:12,700
Creepypasta missiles.
He's basically just out there

2167
02:05:12,700 --> 02:05:20,200
just murdering people.
So he murders and kills people

2168
02:05:20,300 --> 02:05:22,300
in each film.
I mean, of course you murder and

2169
02:05:22,300 --> 02:05:24,300
kill people because you dude
saying this, is he bugging me.

2170
02:05:24,500 --> 02:05:28,600
Anyway, humor zingy.
Some so there are two different

2171
02:05:28,600 --> 02:05:32,900
sound clips that exists of his
siren that many think that might

2172
02:05:32,900 --> 02:05:38,600
be a siren head.
One recorded sound is of a

2173
02:05:38,600 --> 02:05:41,900
tornado siren in Chicago, in
2010.

2174
02:05:42,000 --> 02:05:45,200
I don't know if you've seen this
video, I have and what it is.

2175
02:05:45,200 --> 02:05:48,900
Is I actually know the science
behind it but I won't ruin it.

2176
02:05:48,900 --> 02:05:52,200
No, please do because after I
tell you so it's apparently it

2177
02:05:52,200 --> 02:05:56,000
started up at midnight and the
source could not be found the

2178
02:05:56,000 --> 02:06:00,100
where it was coming from.
The one I heard was it was like

2179
02:06:00,100 --> 02:06:02,600
in a big city and it sounds
weird.

2180
02:06:02,600 --> 02:06:05,400
It doesn't sound like a dude.
Yeah.

2181
02:06:05,700 --> 02:06:10,000
It's okay.
Is that it?

2182
02:06:10,000 --> 02:06:11,400
You have it.
Can we play it?

2183
02:06:11,400 --> 02:06:13,800
Yeah, I think it's the sound.
I think it is because I learned

2184
02:06:13,800 --> 02:06:17,400
about what that is.
Let me see if I can find it.

2185
02:06:30,900 --> 02:06:39,600
Okay.
Goodness.

2186
02:06:45,400 --> 02:06:48,200
Is it this one?
Hold on.

2187
02:06:48,200 --> 02:06:51,100
I might actually be going up for
you before you get to it because

2188
02:06:51,100 --> 02:06:52,700
I have it ready?
Hold on.

2189
02:06:58,700 --> 02:07:04,700
Yep, this is the one.
So so when I first heard this it

2190
02:07:04,700 --> 02:07:08,200
was that it was considered to be
a broken siren.

2191
02:07:08,200 --> 02:07:12,200
So yeah that's why I read too at
first, it's not broken actually,

2192
02:07:12,200 --> 02:07:15,400
it's made to do that because the
sound has to bounce off of

2193
02:07:15,400 --> 02:07:18,100
different buildings.
Whereas when we normally hear a

2194
02:07:18,108 --> 02:07:22,600
tornado siren because when do we
normally hear tornadoes flat

2195
02:07:22,600 --> 02:07:25,600
lamb?
Yeah, Kansas flat area.

2196
02:07:25,600 --> 02:07:28,200
So you just hear the siren
going, but it sounds different

2197
02:07:28,200 --> 02:07:30,800
as it's bouncing off of very
tall buildings who have in

2198
02:07:30,800 --> 02:07:33,300
Chicago.
That's what people explained it

2199
02:07:33,300 --> 02:07:35,600
to that, but I love you guys.
People are like, nope, that's a

2200
02:07:35,600 --> 02:07:38,000
Monster.
Yeah, That's What monster is big

2201
02:07:38,000 --> 02:07:39,800
as some of the buildings in
Chicago.

2202
02:07:41,000 --> 02:07:42,400
So, but yeah, that's what they
said.

2203
02:07:42,400 --> 02:07:46,400
It's not actually a and people
like why is this sounds so

2204
02:07:46,400 --> 02:07:48,200
awful?
And it doesn't sound like any

2205
02:07:48,200 --> 02:07:52,300
other siren in the world.
Yeah, it has to be broken or

2206
02:07:52,300 --> 02:07:55,700
Monster one of the two.
So I love my credit when I say,

2207
02:07:55,700 --> 02:07:58,200
like, when you search it, like
why did the tornado sirens in

2208
02:07:58,200 --> 02:08:01,300
Chicago sound?
Terrifying, top comment to scare

2209
02:08:01,300 --> 02:08:05,500
away the tornadoes.
Duh, duh of the internet.

2210
02:08:05,500 --> 02:08:09,000
All right, y'all are the best.
Alright, so the second sound

2211
02:08:09,500 --> 02:08:15,900
sounds just like the first First
one, it was recorded in 2018.

2212
02:08:16,100 --> 02:08:19,200
So eight years later after the
went to Chicago.

2213
02:08:19,600 --> 02:08:25,900
It's in where Austria and this
sound was much prefer the idea

2214
02:08:25,900 --> 02:08:28,100
that this thing was in Austria.
So yes, let's go with that.

2215
02:08:28,100 --> 02:08:30,700
I think she's not in Chicago,
it's obviously in Austria.

2216
02:08:31,400 --> 02:08:36,400
So this thing was recorded at
3:30 a.m. they're close to 3:30

2217
02:08:36,400 --> 02:08:39,700
a.m. the sound came from the
forest.

2218
02:08:42,700 --> 02:08:47,800
When investigate it, there was
an empty tent found two.

2219
02:08:47,800 --> 02:08:52,200
Wallets with everything in them
and I found the IDS of these two

2220
02:08:52,200 --> 02:08:56,800
people, and they are reported
missing and since then, oh, so

2221
02:08:56,800 --> 02:09:01,200
yeah, cool.
So today the sound for that one.

2222
02:09:01,200 --> 02:09:04,000
It's the same sound, it's the
same sound, it sounded the same,

2223
02:09:04,200 --> 02:09:07,100
no way.
It sounds the same and like I

2224
02:09:07,100 --> 02:09:09,300
said, it came from a forest and
this was like a force on the

2225
02:09:09,300 --> 02:09:11,500
edge of the Town, huh?
That's weird.

2226
02:09:11,700 --> 02:09:14,300
Weird.
But yeah, apparently another

2227
02:09:14,300 --> 02:09:17,000
reason why they said they think
the Chicago siren is made to

2228
02:09:17,000 --> 02:09:21,000
sound like that bizarre, is
because of what they call, like

2229
02:09:21,000 --> 02:09:24,500
sensory adaptation, which is you
live in a big city.

2230
02:09:24,600 --> 02:09:27,500
And this is true because I lived
in Philadelphia for quite some

2231
02:09:27,500 --> 02:09:30,100
time, almost 10 years.
You get used to the sounds.

2232
02:09:30,400 --> 02:09:32,400
It's like one of those things
of, like, I wasn't used to the

2233
02:09:32,400 --> 02:09:35,000
sounds of this building until we
needed silence.

2234
02:09:35,000 --> 02:09:37,600
That makes sense, right?
So that makes it almost

2235
02:09:37,600 --> 02:09:40,200
impossible for you ignore this
siren because it sounds so

2236
02:09:40,200 --> 02:09:42,000
freaking weird.
Exactly.

2237
02:09:42,000 --> 02:09:45,400
Because you're used to To, you
know, normal Sirens, you're used

2238
02:09:45,400 --> 02:09:50,100
to fire trucks, all times of the
night, um, tease cop cars

2239
02:09:50,100 --> 02:09:52,400
because you live in a big city.
So this is a sound.

2240
02:09:52,400 --> 02:09:55,600
You cannot ignore.
But then that's interesting if

2241
02:09:55,600 --> 02:09:58,000
it's similar because the
question is, did you hear this

2242
02:09:58,000 --> 02:09:59,100
somewhere else?
Yeah.

2243
02:09:59,100 --> 02:10:00,900
And decide to use it and
Chicago.

2244
02:10:01,600 --> 02:10:05,200
Yeah.
So also a fun fact about siren

2245
02:10:05,200 --> 02:10:08,500
head that a group of siren head
or quasi static.

2246
02:10:08,500 --> 02:10:15,700
That's ridiculous.
But that is all I have for

2247
02:10:15,700 --> 02:10:18,100
Creepypastas today.
There's a good time.

2248
02:10:18,100 --> 02:10:20,500
That was super interesting.
Yeah, I might want to cover

2249
02:10:20,500 --> 02:10:21,700
creme fossils again.
I don't know.

2250
02:10:22,200 --> 02:10:24,100
Maybe I'll get somebody to I
owe.

2251
02:10:24,200 --> 02:10:26,400
You know what?
If you guys want sending some

2252
02:10:26,400 --> 02:10:28,000
creepy stories, I'll read it for
you guys.

2253
02:10:28,300 --> 02:10:33,200
Absolutely listen, I want Brian
to do crepes with Brian and I

2254
02:10:33,200 --> 02:10:36,500
told him he could break it up
into like parts and do a whole

2255
02:10:36,500 --> 02:10:41,500
story over multiple videos.
Yes, it's not that hard to use

2256
02:10:41,500 --> 02:10:45,000
Tick-Tock it should get.
Listen, you can get your little

2257
02:10:45,000 --> 02:10:47,800
thousand followers and then you
can do lives too.

2258
02:10:48,900 --> 02:10:52,000
You know, one day I will be
doing lives like a million

2259
02:10:52,000 --> 02:10:56,000
years.
Listen, I don't know what made

2260
02:10:56,000 --> 02:10:58,100
people decide to follow my
account.

2261
02:10:58,600 --> 02:11:02,900
Well, I'm glad they have.
Yeah, I have to, you know, this

2262
02:11:02,900 --> 02:11:07,700
whole process has been a lot of
fun, like, but it's time to say,

2263
02:11:07,700 --> 02:11:10,600
goodnight, this is our longest
podcast so far Aroma or a little

2264
02:11:10,600 --> 02:11:11,600
over two hours.
Yeah.

2265
02:11:11,600 --> 02:11:14,400
Sorry for being so long guys.
Oh well, we'll see if people

2266
02:11:14,400 --> 02:11:16,600
like it or not.
Yeah, but let us know for sure,

2267
02:11:18,400 --> 02:11:21,700
as usual support all of our
sponsors.

2268
02:11:21,700 --> 02:11:23,100
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2269
02:11:23,100 --> 02:11:28,300
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Cam hunted, proves to still be

2270
02:11:28,700 --> 02:11:33,700
the most popular earring so far,
so much so that I went looking

2271
02:11:33,700 --> 02:11:39,100
for other kinds of knife.
Earrings, just so people because

2272
02:11:39,200 --> 02:11:42,100
people like the other hunting
knives so much.

2273
02:11:42,500 --> 02:11:45,900
There you go.
And also make sure if you listen

2274
02:11:45,900 --> 02:11:50,200
to us on Apple podcast, or any
podcast that allows you to rate

2275
02:11:50,200 --> 02:11:55,300
and review a podcast to leave us
a five star, View if you like

2276
02:11:55,300 --> 02:11:57,200
the podcast.
And if you didn't like the

2277
02:11:57,200 --> 02:12:00,500
podcast only was review at all
because we hope when you don't

2278
02:12:00,500 --> 02:12:05,000
like constructive criticism
really don't like if you didn't

2279
02:12:05,000 --> 02:12:06,500
like it.
That's okay.

2280
02:12:06,600 --> 02:12:08,500
Like just don't tell us about
it.

2281
02:12:08,600 --> 02:12:10,700
That's all I want to hear.
I want to hear the good stuff.

2282
02:12:11,400 --> 02:12:15,700
Also, thank you so much to the
like we had got 500 extra

2283
02:12:15,700 --> 02:12:17,000
lessons last week.
Yeah.

2284
02:12:17,000 --> 02:12:20,800
Like, our wild, our listens are
like almost double.

2285
02:12:20,800 --> 02:12:22,400
Yeah.
It almost doubled in just a

2286
02:12:22,407 --> 02:12:25,100
couple days time.
So, Very exciting.

2287
02:12:25,100 --> 02:12:26,900
Yes, thank you.
Any new listeners?

2288
02:12:27,800 --> 02:12:30,300
Like you said, you could always
leave a voice message for us on

2289
02:12:30,300 --> 02:12:33,900
anchor and will respond to you.
Absolutely.

2290
02:12:34,000 --> 02:12:36,700
We're looking at potentially
making like a patreon and things

2291
02:12:36,700 --> 02:12:41,400
and hopefully we have a Discord.
I posted the information to that

2292
02:12:42,000 --> 02:12:44,800
on Tick-Tock.
Yeah we only got two people that

2293
02:12:44,800 --> 02:12:47,500
joined it but still there's no.
That's still too beautiful.

2294
02:12:47,500 --> 02:12:49,700
Hi guys.
How are you guys doing?

2295
02:12:49,700 --> 02:12:56,200
Pretty sure you listen but yeah
and also if You want to see any

2296
02:12:56,200 --> 02:12:59,600
Creepy Gaming?
You can follow me on twitch.tv

2297
02:13:00,500 --> 02:13:04,200
slash foxy trainer.
Yeah, I'm finishing up little

2298
02:13:04,200 --> 02:13:06,300
nightmares right now.
They only have like one more

2299
02:13:06,300 --> 02:13:08,200
stream to do and I'll be done
with it.

2300
02:13:08,500 --> 02:13:13,700
And after that I'll be finishing
up Yuppie cycle and was you

2301
02:13:13,700 --> 02:13:16,300
happy cycle the one with the the
job?

2302
02:13:16,300 --> 02:13:17,600
Yeah.
I was weird.

2303
02:13:17,600 --> 02:13:19,000
Yeah, cool.
Cool.

2304
02:13:19,000 --> 02:13:20,900
Kind of game after that, I don't
know.

2305
02:13:20,900 --> 02:13:23,500
I'll probably affect pick
another scary game to play and

2306
02:13:23,500 --> 02:13:28,900
be scared because as I hate
myself, that's all right.

2307
02:13:29,500 --> 02:13:32,100
Oh, that's good.
More and more streaming.

2308
02:13:32,100 --> 02:13:36,200
Yes, consistently stream at a
certain time every time and

2309
02:13:36,200 --> 02:13:38,400
you'll start to get people, you
know, Mom.

2310
02:13:38,400 --> 02:13:40,900
I'm you know, I'm trying.
Yeah.

2311
02:13:41,500 --> 02:13:43,900
But anyway, thanks so much for
listening to when Killers get

2312
02:13:43,900 --> 02:13:46,000
caught.
We're appreciative to everyone

2313
02:13:46,000 --> 02:13:47,600
who listens.
Yes.

2314
02:13:47,600 --> 02:13:48,800
Have a good night.
Thank you.

2315
02:13:48,800 --> 02:13:49,300
Bye.