Jane Toppan For the Love of Poison

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Hey everybody.
It's your killer country.

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My name is Brittany.
Ransom, and my name is Brian jr.

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And this is when Killers get
caught a podcast about deep.

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Dives into the Killer's.
We love to learn about every

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week Brian and I discussed to
true crime stories that

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resonated with us and then I
will lead you down the darker

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path of learning about who a
killer was, how they grew up how

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they killed.
And most importantly how they

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got caught, then Brian ends our
podcast, the touch of the

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Paranormal, a story about
Cryptids or just the creepier

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side of life.
And we just want to say thank

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you for listening so much
especially Because we've been

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selling consists of that year
this year because so much has

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been going on last weekend.
Brian, was sick.

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I ended up subbing in for a
documentary and so we just had

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to push it off.
I did make a post on Tick, Tock

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for those of you, but everybody
was like, when's it coming back?

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Are you coming back?
And, yes, the answer is always.

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Yes.
And so this week in True Crime,

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I will talk about something and
it's very relevant to all of us

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because a lot of people who are
here and listening right now,

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who are people in a true crime
and it has been just a bee in my

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Bonnet for the last two to three
weeks as the Jeffrey Dahmer.

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Netflix show has come out.
And I bit my tongue because

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people are allowed to have their
feelings about the show and what

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not, but it's kind of pissing me
off.

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That it's being called a 10-part
docu-series, this is not a

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documentary, it's a
fictionalized account of what

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happened from what I understand.
There's a fair amount of very

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visceral homosexual scenes that
maybe rape not interested in

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seeing that.
And so now that people have

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watched it and it's been out for
a couple weeks or but all these

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stories news, articles popping
up fact versus fiction.

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What's real?
What's not real?

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In the Netflix Monster Jeffrey
Dahmer story and I'm like, well,

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I'm going to tell you a lots
going to be not real because

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it's not true crime.
And this is like a real stickler

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for me because it's not true
crime.

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If you have to make up details,
if you have to fill in gaps with

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fictional accounts, it's not
true crime.

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It's a dramatic retelling.
It's the same as the Gabby

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potatoes story that's coming out
on Lifetime.

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It's the same as the thing about
Pam, that is a, which would

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episodes season is, Show series.
Is it on PC?

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Yeah, there you go.
Yeah.

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Yeah.
I guess it was.

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What about this is that there
was this was supposed to be a

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peacock production and that got
shut down and NBC took over and

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I'm just like you should have
let it die and I get that Renee.

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Zellweger is the lead character
and she's a very great actress.

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Just like Evan, Peters is a very
great actor and I knew that Evan

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would do he would do Good, well,
because he does creepy well.

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But now people are saying that
they combined to different

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serial killers for the Dahmer.
I'm like, they can we even call

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it a Dahmer.
You you combined.

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His story with somebody else's
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Who do they, who else is it
combining with?

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I'm trying to look for it in
this article right now.

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That somebody said to me ghost,
but that they may have gotten

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some of the like personality
traits from a different person.

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Apparently, they it's
interestingly enough that they

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pair of Netflix, kind of They
almost up the negativity of what

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happened with a ball susac and
gab Rush.

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Those are the two officers, John
boxers that can Joseph Gaborik

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who returned 14 roll Connor acts
and fasten phone to Dahmer's

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house.
After he ran away literally

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bleeding from both his anus and
his skull, and they were super

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hostile to the black women who
called it in, and they could

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continue to be hostile to people
who are worried about that kid.

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And I guess in the In the show,
they had the guys become officer

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of the year that never happened.
We didn't need to make that seem

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more ridiculous than always,
what already was.

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The reality of the situation is
that these two cops didn't care

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about this child.
They just listen to what Dahmer

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said and brought him back into
the house where he would later

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be killed, the issue is that
originally the community called

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for them to be fired and they
were they got reinstated.

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And eventually John Ball Zoo
Zack became president of the

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Milwaukee Police Officers Union
and I believe Joseph Gap brush

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left Milwaukee.
I'm probably because of the

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negativity, I would mean, I
would.

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Yeah, I mean, but the fact is,
he should never been a police

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officer another day in his life,
because he did not do his job,

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because he was kicked out by the
potential of it being gay.

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Yes.
You know, we didn't need to

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change that story though, by
itself, it's already horrible.

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By itself.
What happens, there is already

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unfathomable and disgusting and
terrible.

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We didn't need to try and like
umph it up and go.

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Oh, it's even worse.
They got given police officer of

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the year.
Nobody even does those Awards

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and the thing about Pam was
really upsetting, because they

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interviewed.
So people don't know.

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This is about Pam hop, a woman.
She murdered another woman

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named.
Betsy Faria in 2000. 11.

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And they interviewed Betsy
farias daughter and other family

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members for this.
And they were told, the family

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was told that it was going to be
a documentary.

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Instead, it was turned into a
fictionalized story where they

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made Pam hup like quirky and
funny.

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It was like, what's that movie?
That Renee Zellweger did The

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goofy one with the two British
guys who liked her.

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Oh God.
What is that called?

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It's such a big movie, right?
Yeah, it was um, goodness

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gracious.
I haven't seen it.

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Bridget Jones.
There we go.

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Today, I feel like they made Pam
hop, a little Bridget Jones in

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terms of being like a quirky
cool character.

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And I just feel like I'm just
not really a big fan and I know

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that that comes off as slightly
hypocritical because I am

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someone, I just did the, I did
my fifth documentary appear.

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Hence but the thing about Drew,
this for me and the True Crime

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for this for me is that I don't
need to make up monsters.

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We have real ones.
Yeah, they're right here.

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There every day around us and we
are trying to learn about those

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real monsters right now and
we're trying to learn about,

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like, what made this person do
this and and what sort of

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intricacies happen in their
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And yes, there are things that
we've learned from, from

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researching these people and,
and seeing, I mean, that's

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literally how FBI Filing began
because they learn.

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They looked at the information.
They talked to the people.

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They learned from what happened
and they learned patterns on how

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to find these people. you know,
and I think True Crime is still

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huge because people want to
understand humanity and I don't

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think we need to fictionalize.
Any serial killers.

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I don't need to fictionalize.
Ted Bundy with a, you know, cute

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boy from High School.
Musical didn't need it.

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He's a grown man.
Now, he's a grown man.

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Now I forget his name know, Zac
Efron.

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Yeah, he's a grown man now, but
we didn't eat that either.

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I didn't watch that either and I
won't be watching Dahmer, and I

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won't be watching Gabby Patito.
I won't be watching any of these

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shows because I just, it's just
my personal position position.

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And like I said, I'm sure some
people will probably find me to

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be a hypocrite because I spend
literally all of my excess time

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doing this, but I just feel like
this is a separate genre that

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should not be connected to True
Crime in any way because my

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thought This is right if I make
a movie tomorrow about the

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assassination of JFK, right?
He died. 50 years ago, nobody

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from the original story is in it
and it's all my interpretation

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of what happened that day.
That's not a documentary.

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That's not historically truth.
That's just me.

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Making up a story about the
president.

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Also, I'm sorry if my voice
cracks.

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Today, I started a new job at a
new school and my fellow

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teachers wanted to go out last
night and I haven't gone out

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since before quarantine.
So I was out, drinking at an

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arcade and yelling.
Playing like Mario Kart and

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stuff.
Oh God, I won one time.

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But anyway, I'm done with my
story.

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That's how I feel about it.
Welcome to sound off and send us

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a message.
I will even leave a little

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Spotify question pole.
You can tell me if you think

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that we should be having these
fictionalized account or not.

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But I'm gonna get off my soapbox
what?

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Nothing, nothing I agreed, like,
100% with you on all that.

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Um, well, speaking of True
Crime, my story this week.

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So apparently, police are still
doing some type of investigating

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on the Moors mortars.
Really?

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I was still trying to find the
body.

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Yes, so nice.
Yeah.

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So British police were contacted
by.

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I guess an author who was
researching the death of one?

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Of the kids, a 12 year old thing
was like Keith Bennett.

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Oh, you know, you know, we pay
no way back.

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February of the first season.
Yeah, that was definitely.

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Our lonely are one of our idea
Moors murders was The the couple

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of killers killer company.
Remember the episode number that

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was season 1 episode 8.
Oh goodness.

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Um yeah so this 12 year old boy
who was killed in 1964 as altar.

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He I guess he's researching
about it and, you know, he

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context British police about it.
And he's like, Maybe we like,

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maybe we may have found
something to the police.

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So please go out to, you know,
the Moors of course and they

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find a body.
If I well they find remains

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human remains out in the Moors.
They have been looking for you.

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Here's yeah, over and over
again.

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Yeah, please say that we were
informed that he had discovered,

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what he believes are potential,
human remains in remote

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location, on the Moors, just
like was access late last night

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and they like this started.
They started doing like this

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reason.
He started doing this research

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like Thursday and he called him
on Friday and Friday.

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Started going out there to do
this.

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This uncovering and stuff, but
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It's they're saying it's far too
early to be certain that the

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remains are human.
But like, if there are remains

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out in Moore's, still that have
not been found you guys go back

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and mrs.
Episode some really great

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episode.
Oh, I'll tell you what.

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Yeah, it's really nice. two
hours ago, they're out there

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posting the pictures of them
with the blue tents eating Yeah,

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they're just like, we got
nothing.

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They haven't found.
I said, no, physical evidence of

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a Jawbone or skull.
And then, also, on top of that

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conditions are difficult right
now because of the weather.

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Yeah.
But they're going to do their

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best.
Oh, I hope so.

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Yeah, wasn't okay.
So I'm reading is I think it's,

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it's saying that the last body
was like found it in the 80s.

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He's the only one they never
found.

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Yeah.
They've been over time.

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Been able to Trying to remember
because she still alive his

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mama.
No Myra, oh my that's right.

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She's doing, yeah, he died is
still alive.

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And she went out multiple times
to try and show them where she

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remembered where it could be and
they were like Nothing's

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happening Myra.
Yeah and it's a because his mom

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like keeps mom.
He's been in small, she's like a

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huge red.
She's like she was out there.

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Jake trying to dig up stuff as
well.

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Just searching until she died in
2012.

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It's just sad part.
She died.

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Never knowing.
Yeah.

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Um, but yeah, that's like a
little update on the Moors.

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Hopefully, it is such a huge
area, and yeah, but the thing is

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like, want bodies, one, two and
three were found very close

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together.
At least as far as, you know,

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and for was fun, this one other
big area, but then there's just

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a huge area.
So they moved from their General

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dumping site.
Like, who knows?

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But yeah, so Leslie and Downey
was found in 1965 John, Cale

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Bryant was phone. 1965.
Pauline Reade was found in 1987

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and that was, I think I was the
last one I found.

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Right?
Yeah.

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So we still have well best of
luck and hopefully you guys find

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them and this is the body that
but yeah that's what I Get.

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That's okay.
Yeah.

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So here's the thing.
I spent two weeks talking about

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a modern-day serial killer And
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time.
To discuss a woman killer from

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the late 1800s.
Early 1900s which seems to be

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the time when women were just
chopping people left and right.

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Just like I don't know what it
was about.

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The time they were just
everybody was getting Yanks.

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Have you ever heard the name
Jane to pay?

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It's a pain to Ponte pan.
I happen not to say your last

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name.
I have not know Well, she is

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believed to have potentially
killed well over 100 people.

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There's a multitude of hospital.
She worked at that.

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They never knew that she did
anything really.

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And so the well there's a years
of her doing weird stuff to

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patients and well, she admitted
to 31 in the end.

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That's a very big.
This is a weird story and it's

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just gonna be weird and I'm just
gonna go for it, okay?

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Okay.
All right.

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So her she was born on Iraq.
Ellie on March, 31st 1854 to

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Irish immigrant parents, Bridget
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Her mom died of tuberculosis
when she was just a baby and her

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dad was a very serious
alcoholic.

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People in Boston called him
Kelly the crack, as in crackpot,

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he had a lot of really serious
issues and when he was When

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honor I was about six years old
he was just like I cannot take

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care of children.
So he takes on Aurora and her

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older sister Delia who was 8 and
drops them off at the Boston,

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female Asylum, and Boston
female.

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Asylum was his orphanage for
girls.

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He completely surrendered them
and went on to eventually blind

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himself by selling his own eyes,
shut later in life.

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So that's dad.
The Asylum wrote in their record

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that they had.
Rescued these girls from a very

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miserable home and honor and
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They did have an older sister
who was in her teens, but she

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obviously could not take care of
two small children, and that

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older sister.
Nellie later, got committed to

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an asylum for her mental health.
So I wonder if she had some of

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the same problems that her dad
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Now honor is described as having
an olive complexion with dark

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eyes, black hair, Strong Nose,
and jaw.

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She did not fit the mold of the
average child, who got adopted,

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some people thought she was
Italian.

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But being Italian wasn't all
that great in the late 1800's

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and neither was being Irish.
So it was exactly getting you

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treated well and November of
1860 too onerous. 8 and Delia is

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10.
We don't really know much about

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Delia other than the fact that
she eventually ran away from the

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orphanage to orphanage and cons
survival, sex work, and but on

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Iraq, gets sent to a home, not a
foster home or adoption, but as

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an indentured servant and Lowell
Massachusetts, Which blew my

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mind.
I didn't realize that like their

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thought process was listen.
If you don't get adopted, we

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just sending you to somewhere,
you can work.

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But she ends up working in the
house of mrs.

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Anne see top end.
I just apparently, if you were

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an orphan, you had to pay your
own way until somebody adopted

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you Anaerobic.
Go on to call her Aunty an and

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that's about as familiar as this
woman was going to get with her

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ever.
They did allow her to change her

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last name to top in, but Anna
spent every moment she could

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reminding honor of that.
She came from inferior blood,

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she'd say things like you can't
help being Irish with us.

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It has me have to act like a
Patty, which I didn't know at

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the time.
Was that Patty was a pejorative

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word for Irish people.
Yeah, that I didn't realize that

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was a slur back then it's not
anymore.

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More.
But wow.

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And here's the thing, honor had
been adopted into like a wow,

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the WASP world of the Northeast
and for people not in the u.s.

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when we say wasp what we mean
are white Anglo-Saxon

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Protestants. and so honor a
divot, a lot of abused kids to

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she started overcompensating She
became as smart as she could as

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funny as she could.
She learned how to be very

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charismatic.
You.

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All right over there.
Are you feeling?

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I'm good?
I'm good.

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All right.
Anna also began.

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Exhibiting kinds, of signs of
ethnic self-hatred.

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No.
I thought you were having that

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moment that we always have.
And we talked about how, like,

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kids, who were like abandoned
when they were young

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overcompensate when we get
older.

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Yes, yes.
Now as I was like, are you

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alright?
Because I know what?

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I'm tapping your trauma.
Just a little bit.

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Mine too.
Mine too.

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But yeah, so onerous starts,
exhibiting ethnic self-hatred

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and she would lie about being
Irish and she would mock

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Catholics because that's the
Protestant thing to do.

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She would make fun of other
Irish kids and well onerous

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position as a subordinate, the
family was a weird thing that

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contributed to her strangeness.
She actually would live with his

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family and so she was 28 years
old, she never officially got

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adopted and was pretty miserable
the top and family had a

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biological daughter named
Elizabeth who was adored by her

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family.
That really served as a reminder

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to honor all that she was
nothing more than a well-dressed

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worker.
Sometime during her time with

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the top end, she changes her
name to Jane, I guess.

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So that it would be something
less ethnic.

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And it might Grant her some
better treatment.

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When that didn't work, Jane
started becoming a bully at

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school.
She's a gossip.

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She spread rumors snitched on
anybody and everybody, which got

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her in good with the teachers,
but not with the other students.

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She had a really like, bubbly
personality but it was totally

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superficial even when she was
little She was actually really

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selfish and she showed a lot of
signs of ego and stubbornness

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and even to see at a young age.
She told everyone, her father

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was an explorer who traveled to
China and live there.

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She made of a brother who fought
at Gettysburg and got a medal

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from President Lincoln.
Her sister was a beauty queen in

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London and she was also prone to
do very spiteful things to

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people she didn't like it and
blame it on somebody else.

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Here's the thing, when James
Behavior gets out of hand

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letters, go home her foster mom
and not too happy.

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And so she would be Jane, you
know, the old days we don't

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let's do the spare.
The rod spoil, the child Jay and

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saw this is unfair because
you're not really my mom and it

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made her detest her auntie an
but she especially hated

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Elizabeth.
Elizabeth got treated like a

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real daughter, Elizabeth had a
natural social ranking because

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she was an Irish and She had
family who loved her and as the

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two got older Elizabeth became
more beautiful and Jane

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remained, kind of homely and
strong-jawed and she always was

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boys flocked to Elizabeth, but
not too Jane.

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There is a rumor that when Jay
was in her early 20s, she fell

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in love with a man and he worked
as an office worker and he

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proposed to her with a ring.
That had a bird engraved on it,

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and he had to move for work and
when he moved into a boarding

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house and Holyoke, He fell in
love with the landlord's

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daughter and abandoned Gene for
The Other Woman.

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Now what did that happened?
Or not Jane.

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Never got married or really went
on dates or got courted.

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She's about five foot three and
170 pounds which was considered

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to be so overweight at the time,
Listen, I looked at as the at

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the late 1870s is a direct
quote, that isn't the ideal

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woman was 5 foot 5 and 138
pounds.

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If she be well, formed she can
stand another 10 pounds without

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greatly showing it.
And for those of you not speak

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in 19th century, if she got a
booty or some boobs, they don't

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mind if she's a little heavier,
but Jane was well past the 10

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pounds and they like it and she
was shorter.

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Jane was lonely and her foster
sister at all these men courting

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her.
So, she turned to romance novels

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like the house of Dreams Come
True or Miss Marjorie of silver

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mean, and the princess of the
purple Palace, these books

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worked for a little while, but
eventually it's not enough and

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when James reach 18, she got a
fifty dollar payment.

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And that was the end of her
indentured servitude.

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This is the largest amount of
money she ever got from, Auntie,

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Anne, and went up and died.
A couple years later, Jane was

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not included in the will
Everything went to Elizabeth and

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Elizabeth got married and became
mrs.

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O A Brigham, she married a
deacon named Orem.

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Elizabeth was used to Jane being
there as her servant.

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So she was like, you want to
stay And so Jane stays there for

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another decade harboring all
this resentment for her foster

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sister, who had everything
handed to her and every

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opportunity on the table and
that resentment kind of comes to

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a head, and we don't know if
Jane had enough with Elizabeth

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or Elizabeth just had enough,
but an 1885 Jay moves out

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Elizabeth's like you can come
back and visit whenever you want

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there.
Always be a room here for you.

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But speaking from experience
that's not how that works.

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It wasn't likely Elizabeth was
being kind for public reasons

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but I'm sure she had to have
known that Jane like didn't like

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her.
But in 1885 Jane 3028, she got

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no job outside of housecleaning,
no money, the social position,

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no family and she's all alone.
And so the time in history,

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where A Woman's Place was in the
home, and there weren't a whole

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lot of jobs for women.
So you could be a teacher, a

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seamstress, a textile worker.
Jane did not want to be a

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governess for a couple spoiled
rich kids.

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She did not know how to sew and
she did not want to do

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back-breaking labor in the
Mills.

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She wanted a living wage and she
didn't want to be destroyed.

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And here's the thing, Jane is an
abandoned abused kid who turned

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into a pretty nasty adult but in
1887 she's like, you know, it

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makes sense.
I'm gonna go be a nurse now,

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I'll give you some comparison.
Nursing is one of the most

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highly regimented jobs in the
u.s.

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It's actually stricter than say,
being a police officer, but

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nursing in the 19th century is
nothing, like it was today.

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There was no formal training,
really, a pretty scary example

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of this would be that in New
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The Bellevue Hospital was run by
former inmates of A Woman's Work

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house at Blackwell's Island
prison and Blackwell was a spot

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for like drugs and prostitutes
who would get parole if you

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would.
Agree to be a nurse most of

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those.
People didn't even know how to

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read books, and we're just
trying to stay out of prison.

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So patient care was pretty low.
But Boston in 1850s was a much

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better.
The state legislature had formed

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a Sanitary Commission to create
some kind of rules around

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nursing and the rulings were
pretty much.

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Women should be nurses and we
need to make a nursing school

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for them to learn.
And then for 23 years, they did

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absolutely nothing.
That's it.

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That's it proof that the
government was useless 200 years

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ago to But the first training
facility for nursing would be in

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Cambridge hospital in 1873 and
in 1887 Jane applied for

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admission was a two-year program
and it was awfully hard you to

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work seven days a week, 50 weeks
a year.

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You didn't get off a Christmas
or Easter Thanksgiving ensuring

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that anyone with a family was
not going to take this job.

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They were housed in a small dorm
where three women slept, and

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what I wouldn't even call Rooms
maybe like it was like a big

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room that was like cubicles and
they put three women in each

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cubicle.
You woke up at 5:30 every day.

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Made your bed, made your own
breakfast.

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Went to morning prayer and you
had to be ready and at work by 7

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a.m.
Then you work 12 to 14-hour days

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and you had a total of 75
minutes across the day for both

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lunch and your dinner lunch.
And dinner was supplied by the

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hospital, but the items were so
bad that most of the women spent

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their money on extra food.
Your first month, you were a

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trainee on probation and they
gave you pretty much.

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The worst job scrubbing, the
floors clean the chamber pots

450
00:27:47,500 --> 00:27:50,400
during bedding your second week.
They give you a couple patients

451
00:27:50,600 --> 00:27:53,000
on top of your cleaning.
These you work alongside the

452
00:27:53,000 --> 00:27:55,800
head nurse learning, how to do,
basic things, like give baths,

453
00:27:55,900 --> 00:27:59,200
put on clean bandages, fixed
bed, sores, treat wounds give an

454
00:27:59,200 --> 00:28:04,100
enema give medication and it
sounds awful, and it was awful.

455
00:28:04,500 --> 00:28:06,500
But you better not let your head
nurse hear, you complain.

456
00:28:06,500 --> 00:28:08,000
Because you had to do this with
a smile.

457
00:28:09,500 --> 00:28:11,800
If you, if you were found
complaining at all, you were a

458
00:28:11,808 --> 00:28:14,000
troublemaker.
You could not smoke drink

459
00:28:14,000 --> 00:28:15,600
liquor, get your hair and nails
done.

460
00:28:15,600 --> 00:28:19,000
Go to dance halls.
This is all in the rulebook but

461
00:28:19,000 --> 00:28:21,500
say, you make it through that
first crap month right now.

462
00:28:21,700 --> 00:28:24,400
You signed an agreement with the
hospital, stay on for two years

463
00:28:24,700 --> 00:28:26,800
and they're going to pay for
your lodging for your uniforms

464
00:28:26,800 --> 00:28:29,800
and you get a seven dollars a
month, looking into inflation

465
00:28:29,800 --> 00:28:33,700
that is $218 today.
It's not a lot of money.

466
00:28:34,200 --> 00:28:36,200
He's still making him money,
okay.

467
00:28:40,500 --> 00:28:42,600
That money you had to pay for
outside.

468
00:28:42,600 --> 00:28:45,200
Close textbooks, anything that
you needed?

469
00:28:45,600 --> 00:28:48,700
Once you hit trainee status.
You now have a total war pretty

470
00:28:48,700 --> 00:28:52,300
much to take care of 50
patients, in your daily Duties

471
00:28:52,300 --> 00:28:55,400
are doing catheters draining
wounds, your board has to be

472
00:28:55,400 --> 00:28:58,100
clean and warm, which means
you're doing housekeeping stuff.

473
00:28:58,100 --> 00:29:00,700
But also you have to make sure
the sure the furnace is working

474
00:29:00,900 --> 00:29:04,800
has enough coal.
The lamps have kerosene, they

475
00:29:04,800 --> 00:29:08,600
have to prepare the meals change
beds and make sure the writing

476
00:29:08,600 --> 00:29:12,600
pills are sharp to take notes.
Let's see, that's when we that's

477
00:29:12,600 --> 00:29:15,500
where your fries, that's not in.
My job, description comes in to

478
00:29:16,200 --> 00:29:17,700
see, you know.
This is part of your job

479
00:29:17,700 --> 00:29:19,900
description.
It's all part of your job

480
00:29:19,900 --> 00:29:31,000
description.
Well, once a week after you

481
00:29:31,000 --> 00:29:34,600
attacked after work, you had to
attend a lecture in the medical

482
00:29:34,600 --> 00:29:37,000
Theory by the hospital doctors
and that could be on anything

483
00:29:37,000 --> 00:29:40,400
Dentistry hygiene, diabetes,
obstetric, surgery.

484
00:29:40,600 --> 00:29:43,900
Pediatrics nerve disorders.
Pretty much, they just grab the

485
00:29:43,900 --> 00:29:45,900
doctor and we're like here, talk
for an hour.

486
00:29:48,500 --> 00:29:51,100
And Jane did this and she did it
with a smile and she won her way

487
00:29:51,100 --> 00:29:53,100
through school.
At the end of two years you get

488
00:29:53,100 --> 00:29:55,600
examined by a board of doctors
and if you pass you get a little

489
00:29:55,600 --> 00:29:58,700
diploma test is designed to be
really hard and cover pretty

490
00:29:58,700 --> 00:30:01,000
much anything and everything
medical they'll throw at you.

491
00:30:01,400 --> 00:30:05,400
But it really relied heavily on
knowing medications and Jane was

492
00:30:05,600 --> 00:30:08,000
very good at that.
In fact, James, so good at her

493
00:30:08,000 --> 00:30:09,900
job, they start calling her
Jolly Jane.

494
00:30:10,100 --> 00:30:11,800
She's got an excellent bedside
Manner.

495
00:30:12,200 --> 00:30:15,400
And after spending 22 years as a
servant cleaning was a piece of

496
00:30:15,400 --> 00:30:17,800
cake for her.
The other nurses, however, we're

497
00:30:17,800 --> 00:30:20,800
like, She's a brown noser and
just like in high school.

498
00:30:20,800 --> 00:30:24,100
She loved to pit women against
each other with rumors.

499
00:30:24,300 --> 00:30:27,300
She never got in trouble though
twice.

500
00:30:27,300 --> 00:30:30,400
However, during training, her
lies got other people fire.

501
00:30:32,700 --> 00:30:35,400
And again, Jane reinvents
herself, she picked up new

502
00:30:35,400 --> 00:30:40,100
things, she liked to do, steal
hospital supplies money from

503
00:30:40,100 --> 00:30:43,200
patients and nobody could ever
prove it but they were sure that

504
00:30:43,200 --> 00:30:48,300
it was her and as time, she
passed, her first exam and

505
00:30:48,300 --> 00:30:52,900
became her like a minor nurse in
1889 and she was about to take

506
00:30:52,900 --> 00:30:54,900
her first step into illegality
though.

507
00:30:55,800 --> 00:30:58,900
See James, you come, she get
close to certain patients and

508
00:30:58,900 --> 00:31:00,500
she want to spend all her time
with the people.

509
00:31:00,500 --> 00:31:03,700
She liked, she wanted to leave.
So she starts falsifying

510
00:31:03,700 --> 00:31:06,900
documents to make them.
Stay a little longer, a little

511
00:31:06,900 --> 00:31:08,700
nothing illegal.
Maybe she just write that this

512
00:31:08,700 --> 00:31:12,300
person had a fever, maybe give
them a medicine that made them

513
00:31:12,300 --> 00:31:15,500
feel a little bit sick, so they
stay in the hospital for another

514
00:31:15,500 --> 00:31:17,400
week.
Innocent.

515
00:31:17,700 --> 00:31:22,200
But for the patient's, she
didn't like Oh Jane was not so

516
00:31:22,200 --> 00:31:24,800
good.
She really hated older people

517
00:31:25,100 --> 00:31:28,100
and she would laugh and say to
the other nurses there's no use

518
00:31:28,100 --> 00:31:33,200
keeping old people alive.
Yeah.

519
00:31:35,100 --> 00:31:39,100
Of course because Jane was just
like so funny and they didn't,

520
00:31:39,100 --> 00:31:41,500
she didn't mean that her, he was
just dark.

521
00:31:41,500 --> 00:31:44,700
That's all right.
Well on her own time.

522
00:31:44,700 --> 00:31:48,100
She's buying books about
medications and asking her

523
00:31:48,100 --> 00:31:50,100
Mentor is about how different
poisons.

524
00:31:50,300 --> 00:31:52,000
Work.
In fact, one of Jane's favorite

525
00:31:52,000 --> 00:31:55,700
books was about opium and we
think of opium in the mod of age

526
00:31:55,700 --> 00:31:58,000
as the drug that led to the
creation of heroin.

527
00:31:58,400 --> 00:32:01,200
So I have to explain this.
Opium comes from the sap of an

528
00:32:01,200 --> 00:32:04,900
unripe.
Poppy bulb opium counts

529
00:32:04,900 --> 00:32:07,300
morphine.
As one of its main ingredients,

530
00:32:07,700 --> 00:32:10,200
which works to suppress the pain
receptors in the brain.

531
00:32:10,700 --> 00:32:14,700
Heroin is a synthetic substance
that uses opium as the primary

532
00:32:14,700 --> 00:32:20,200
active ingredient.
And throughout history, we used

533
00:32:20,200 --> 00:32:26,100
opium like, it was aspirin.
They gave it to an infant if the

534
00:32:26,100 --> 00:32:30,400
baby was teething women for
cramps, dysentery patients.

535
00:32:30,600 --> 00:32:34,400
And Jane was obsessed with opium
but she didn't start with it.

536
00:32:35,500 --> 00:32:38,100
Unlike many angels of death.
Jane wasn't really trying to

537
00:32:38,100 --> 00:32:42,800
make her patients lives better.
She was using them as Lab Rats

538
00:32:43,300 --> 00:32:47,100
to see how drugs affected them
and she Started with a morphine.

539
00:32:47,100 --> 00:32:49,800
Just pure Murphy.
She just inject a little bit and

540
00:32:49,800 --> 00:32:53,700
then she just watch and see our
eyes dilated or their breeding

541
00:32:53,700 --> 00:32:56,600
got louder.
And labored, she watches, they

542
00:32:56,600 --> 00:32:59,600
get sweaty.
Of course, she'd be careful

543
00:32:59,600 --> 00:33:01,000
though because too much morphine
in the person.

544
00:33:01,000 --> 00:33:05,600
Just slips into a coma and dies
way too much there breathing

545
00:33:05,600 --> 00:33:09,000
stops almost immediately but
she'd find the perfect amount to

546
00:33:09,000 --> 00:33:12,300
make this person go into like
convulsions and then she just

547
00:33:12,300 --> 00:33:16,800
sit and watch.
And then she moved to mixing

548
00:33:16,800 --> 00:33:20,300
morphine with atropine.
Atropine is a medicine that can

549
00:33:20,300 --> 00:33:25,000
be used to treat low heart rate
back in the 1800's though we

550
00:33:25,000 --> 00:33:27,400
were using it for everything
asthma earaches night, sweats

551
00:33:27,400 --> 00:33:29,300
seasickness tetanus whooping
cough.

552
00:33:31,100 --> 00:33:34,200
Now when she would like mix this
medicine and give them the

553
00:33:34,200 --> 00:33:37,300
atropine in the morphine.
They would have like muscle

554
00:33:37,300 --> 00:33:42,500
control failure and they would
laugh and be Giddy and Delirious

555
00:33:42,500 --> 00:33:44,600
and they pull it things that
they could.

556
00:33:44,800 --> 00:33:48,000
They see themselves and Jane
would watch them, do all this.

557
00:33:48,000 --> 00:33:50,600
And finally, before death,
they'd kind of Clutch the bed

558
00:33:51,100 --> 00:33:56,800
and just go Later on Gene would
refer to poisoning as a habit of

559
00:33:56,800 --> 00:34:02,200
her life.
The truth of the matter is Jane

560
00:34:02,200 --> 00:34:06,100
Jane was a weird one, she
doesn't fit any of the normal

561
00:34:06,400 --> 00:34:08,900
Angel of Death things because
she's into this for the sexual

562
00:34:08,900 --> 00:34:17,000
gratification, we don't see this
with her kind of killer. she

563
00:34:17,000 --> 00:34:25,300
would like, Get in bed with them
while they were dying and like

564
00:34:25,800 --> 00:34:31,800
hug them.
It was it was a sexual thing.

565
00:34:31,800 --> 00:34:34,300
It's not good.
Okay?

566
00:34:34,600 --> 00:34:38,800
Any TV, it's an 88 despite her
mixed reputation at work.

567
00:34:39,000 --> 00:34:41,100
She's like it's time for me to
go to bed to bigger better

568
00:34:41,100 --> 00:34:43,699
things.
So she wants to go to

569
00:34:43,699 --> 00:34:46,300
Massachusetts General Hospital,
which is renowned for being one

570
00:34:46,300 --> 00:34:48,400
of the best nursing programs in
the country than ad.

571
00:34:48,400 --> 00:34:52,699
Now James admission came with
glowing reviews from Cambridge

572
00:34:52,699 --> 00:34:56,300
but there was some pushback Jane
had actually been kind of honest

573
00:34:56,300 --> 00:34:59,500
about her upbringing and that
caused the head nurse and some

574
00:34:59,500 --> 00:35:02,800
others Navi folks to be like I
don't know if she's good enough

575
00:35:02,800 --> 00:35:06,300
to come to Lancaster.
I mean, Massachusetts General

576
00:35:06,300 --> 00:35:10,500
Hospital.
Sorry that was down the street

577
00:35:13,300 --> 00:35:15,300
so they don't like fine.
We'll let you and we'll put you

578
00:35:15,300 --> 00:35:18,400
on probation and Jane crushes.
This probation period.

579
00:35:18,500 --> 00:35:20,400
She's so good.
That when the head hurts had to

580
00:35:20,400 --> 00:35:23,600
take like a lie of a leave of
absence the following year.

581
00:35:24,000 --> 00:35:26,600
Jane was her temporary
replacement.

582
00:35:27,300 --> 00:35:30,200
MGH and MGH is like she's
incredible.

583
00:35:30,200 --> 00:35:32,100
Why would he ever think that she
wasn't?

584
00:35:34,900 --> 00:35:39,300
The other nurse is also hate her
here to just before she

585
00:35:39,300 --> 00:35:43,100
presented herself as this like
incredible person.

586
00:35:43,100 --> 00:35:44,900
She takes credit for other
people's work.

587
00:35:45,300 --> 00:35:48,100
She changes charts and medical
records.

588
00:35:48,100 --> 00:35:51,200
She stealing medicine.
Even the doctors who liked her a

589
00:35:51,207 --> 00:35:56,100
lot were like, this is weird.
I still think we don't know how

590
00:35:56,100 --> 00:35:58,000
many people that Jane could have
killed with all this

591
00:35:58,000 --> 00:36:01,400
instrumentation.
We just don't, unfortunately,

592
00:36:01,400 --> 00:36:05,800
because a lot of Jane's patients
would just bleed out and we

593
00:36:05,800 --> 00:36:08,300
don't know if that was her
because we were still practicing

594
00:36:08,300 --> 00:36:10,200
bloodletting in the 19th
century.

595
00:36:11,200 --> 00:36:14,600
And we also use medicine called
strychnine for stomach ailments.

596
00:36:15,100 --> 00:36:17,100
I feel like you probably know
strychnine.

597
00:36:17,200 --> 00:36:20,000
I've heard that, yeah, we talked
about it before with other

598
00:36:20,000 --> 00:36:22,600
people.
Yeah, it's pretty much Rob

599
00:36:22,600 --> 00:36:24,100
poison.
Yeah.

600
00:36:24,600 --> 00:36:28,300
Not arsenic but it has a similar
effect and I'm sure a lot of

601
00:36:28,300 --> 00:36:32,400
people died because we were
poisoning them with what we

602
00:36:32,400 --> 00:36:35,300
thought was good medicine, not
just because of Jane.

603
00:36:36,500 --> 00:36:39,400
So here's the question, how do
we know what her Mo was really?

604
00:36:40,800 --> 00:36:44,600
Well, one of Jane's early
victims survived.

605
00:36:45,100 --> 00:36:47,300
And her name was mrs.
Amelia Fanny.

606
00:36:47,800 --> 00:36:51,600
She was 36 years old and she had
a uterine ulcer the treatment at

607
00:36:51,600 --> 00:36:54,000
this time, was to burn it with
silver nitrate.

608
00:36:54,600 --> 00:36:57,700
Just a reminder, this is on the
edge of your uterus.

609
00:36:57,800 --> 00:37:00,000
She silver nitrate.
Yes.

610
00:37:00,000 --> 00:37:02,800
Oh God.
Okay, the edge of your uterus

611
00:37:02,800 --> 00:37:07,700
and that that hurts real bad.
It was way to cauterize the

612
00:37:07,700 --> 00:37:10,500
ulcer and they said it could
shorten the recovery time.

613
00:37:10,600 --> 00:37:12,700
It hurts like hell and we didn't
have much in the way of

614
00:37:12,700 --> 00:37:15,800
anesthesia at the time.
So afterward Amelia is just in

615
00:37:15,800 --> 00:37:18,900
horrible pain.
Just incapable sleep.

616
00:37:19,000 --> 00:37:23,200
And Amelia she doesn't talk
about what happens here until

617
00:37:23,200 --> 00:37:25,800
Jane goes the present.
But she said she's laying in her

618
00:37:25,800 --> 00:37:29,100
bed, feeling, pretty awful and a
nurse comes over to her and

619
00:37:29,100 --> 00:37:30,400
jeans.
Look how are you feeling?

620
00:37:30,400 --> 00:37:32,500
And I'm really is it please get
me a doctor.

621
00:37:32,900 --> 00:37:34,600
I need help.
That's the jeans.

622
00:37:34,600 --> 00:37:37,200
Like no, no worries.
I have something to help you and

623
00:37:37,200 --> 00:37:40,200
she lifts a big it up with one
arm and forces a glass to her

624
00:37:40,200 --> 00:37:43,300
lips.
And tells her to drink and

625
00:37:43,300 --> 00:37:45,100
meals.
Like this is very bitter, but it

626
00:37:45,100 --> 00:37:47,900
made her feel numb all over her
body and then she felt like her

627
00:37:47,900 --> 00:37:51,300
throat was dry and she was very
drowsy and this was the worst

628
00:37:51,300 --> 00:37:53,900
thing of what happened.
But what freaked Amelia out was

629
00:37:53,900 --> 00:37:57,000
that Jane got into bed with her
and began like petting her hair

630
00:37:57,300 --> 00:38:00,400
and kissing her face and
Whispering like everything will

631
00:38:00,400 --> 00:38:03,900
be.
Alright soon at one point Jane

632
00:38:03,900 --> 00:38:08,100
lean over a million and pulled
her eyelids open and she said

633
00:38:08,100 --> 00:38:12,200
that Jane, sounded exciting.
When Jane tried to force her to

634
00:38:12,200 --> 00:38:15,800
drink more of the glass and they
refused, and she shut her mouth,

635
00:38:15,800 --> 00:38:17,800
and try to twist her head away
from Jane.

636
00:38:18,200 --> 00:38:20,600
And as quickly as this whole,
bizarre moment happens.

637
00:38:20,800 --> 00:38:25,200
It's over and Jane rushes away
from her because someone else is

638
00:38:25,200 --> 00:38:28,800
in the Halls, Amelia passes out
and she's woken up by another

639
00:38:28,800 --> 00:38:33,700
trainee name McCutchen and
Amelia's, like she didn't feel

640
00:38:33,700 --> 00:38:36,000
like I was drinking and I was
nauseous it.

641
00:38:36,000 --> 00:38:38,900
Took her hours to come back to
herself and then she wasn't sure

642
00:38:38,900 --> 00:38:41,500
if anyone would believe her.
Be like, oh, you were just

643
00:38:41,500 --> 00:38:47,900
Delirious from the pain.
But her weird night time

644
00:38:47,900 --> 00:38:51,000
activities, go undetected, but
her other weirdness gets her in

645
00:38:51,000 --> 00:38:52,700
trouble at Massachusetts
General.

646
00:38:53,000 --> 00:38:56,400
See, Jane is not very ladylike
and most hospitals with the

647
00:38:56,400 --> 00:38:58,100
time.
Follow the Florence Nightingale

648
00:38:58,100 --> 00:39:01,300
method, for their nurses, mean
that you had to be two things

649
00:39:01,600 --> 00:39:04,400
you to follow orders.
And you had to look like a lady,

650
00:39:05,500 --> 00:39:09,200
prim and proper and prim.
And proper Lee's were cheerful

651
00:39:09,200 --> 00:39:12,200
respectfully religious, they
never complained and they were

652
00:39:12,200 --> 00:39:15,900
complete submission to Authority
like that of the military.

653
00:39:16,800 --> 00:39:22,000
Jane was meticulous in her work.
But her peers thought she was a

654
00:39:22,000 --> 00:39:24,900
thief and a liar have low moral
character.

655
00:39:27,500 --> 00:39:30,100
They like suspected that she
stole from the cash box of the

656
00:39:30,100 --> 00:39:33,500
hospital, the store room, she
had diamond ring from a dying

657
00:39:33,500 --> 00:39:35,600
patient.
They couldn't prove it, but they

658
00:39:35,600 --> 00:39:39,900
were over her and she makes a
mistake in 1890 when she leaves

659
00:39:39,900 --> 00:39:43,800
her Ward without permission and
her supervisors already hate

660
00:39:43,800 --> 00:39:46,600
her, and they use this to get
her kicked out.

661
00:39:46,800 --> 00:39:49,400
So, even though Jane had already
passed all over her exams, and

662
00:39:49,408 --> 00:39:52,200
they had already signed her to
Paloma they kick her out without

663
00:39:52,200 --> 00:39:57,700
her license.
So Jane goes into private

664
00:39:57,700 --> 00:40:00,800
nursing.
And she gets jobs immediately

665
00:40:00,800 --> 00:40:04,000
and Cambridge and Lowell,
Massachusetts immediately, she

666
00:40:04,000 --> 00:40:06,700
gets glowing recommendations in
the fall of 1890.

667
00:40:06,700 --> 00:40:08,300
She goes back to Cambridge
hospital.

668
00:40:08,500 --> 00:40:12,100
Her license, rinse, and repeat,
doctors and patients.

669
00:40:12,100 --> 00:40:15,200
Love her co-workers heater
strives to kill a 19 year old

670
00:40:15,200 --> 00:40:18,400
training named Maddie.
David Maddie gets sick and they

671
00:40:18,400 --> 00:40:22,200
put her in the best.
Nurses, War, Jane Maddie has a

672
00:40:22,200 --> 00:40:23,800
fever.
And after spending time with

673
00:40:23,800 --> 00:40:27,200
Jane, she follows a report that
says, that Jane gave her

674
00:40:27,200 --> 00:40:30,500
medicine that made her seize up
and violently collapse.

675
00:40:30,900 --> 00:40:34,100
A doctor named Cleland was
walking by and he saw her fall

676
00:40:34,100 --> 00:40:37,200
and save her when Jane came back
the following morning.

677
00:40:37,200 --> 00:40:40,600
Another nurse was there so she
couldn't finish the job doc.

678
00:40:40,900 --> 00:40:43,600
Hmm, dr.
Cleveland starts watching her

679
00:40:44,300 --> 00:40:46,600
and he realizes his.
Some other patients are dying

680
00:40:46,600 --> 00:40:50,500
from convulsions and he
suspicious he's like I don't

681
00:40:50,500 --> 00:40:52,800
know if I want to believe that
she's doing anything wrong.

682
00:40:53,200 --> 00:40:56,000
He's like maybe she's just
Prescribing opiates.

683
00:40:59,300 --> 00:41:02,000
The summer of 1881.
He tells the Board of Trustees

684
00:41:02,000 --> 00:41:04,600
his Bots and they dismiss her
immediately.

685
00:41:05,700 --> 00:41:07,600
Good good good.
Geez.

686
00:41:07,600 --> 00:41:12,000
Now 32 jobless and bows of
Boston's best nursing schools

687
00:41:12,000 --> 00:41:14,600
have fired her.
She'd even have a license to

688
00:41:14,600 --> 00:41:18,200
show for the four years of work.
She's been doing the police are

689
00:41:18,200 --> 00:41:21,000
like they think she killed at
least 24 people up to this point

690
00:41:21,000 --> 00:41:23,100
in her life, but they never were
able to prove it.

691
00:41:23,900 --> 00:41:27,000
Now, Jane, like so many serial
killers before her has an

692
00:41:27,000 --> 00:41:31,900
unending cup of arrogance and
she decides to call on some of

693
00:41:31,900 --> 00:41:34,600
the more prominent families in
Cambridge, who had given her

694
00:41:34,600 --> 00:41:38,600
such good reviews before and
they're like, I'm going into

695
00:41:38,600 --> 00:41:41,400
private medicine.
Do you have any, you know,

696
00:41:41,400 --> 00:41:46,600
interest Now, I need to give
some perspective on this women

697
00:41:46,600 --> 00:41:50,300
in 1888, all women across the
u.s. made on average.

698
00:41:50,300 --> 00:41:53,500
Four to six dollars a week.
Hardly enough to survive.

699
00:41:53,800 --> 00:41:56,400
Jane was going to make $25 a
week.

700
00:41:56,600 --> 00:42:00,200
Now comparing that to 2022.
We're saying that the average

701
00:42:00,200 --> 00:42:03,500
woman in 1888 was only making
like two hundred to two hundred

702
00:42:03,500 --> 00:42:06,500
twenty seven dollars a week.
But Jane would have been making

703
00:42:06,500 --> 00:42:10,600
77948, which is a reasonable
income.

704
00:42:11,000 --> 00:42:15,800
Yeah, for now time you can live
off of Nine as a single person

705
00:42:16,000 --> 00:42:18,700
with no big debts and no
children, all right.

706
00:42:21,200 --> 00:42:26,200
Unfortunately, this job is Rich
with right, which Full Rife with

707
00:42:26,200 --> 00:42:30,200
Rich, folks, taking advantage of
nurses and genuine, always get

708
00:42:30,200 --> 00:42:33,100
the money that she had signed,
you know, they barter.

709
00:42:33,300 --> 00:42:36,100
So in the end, her average
salary for the year, ended up,

710
00:42:36,100 --> 00:42:41,100
being around $600, which is
about 14 k, which is 40% of what

711
00:42:41,100 --> 00:42:45,400
she was Contracting out.
It's still way more than the

712
00:42:45,400 --> 00:42:51,300
hospital is pay, but crap money.
An top of that her job was to be

713
00:42:51,300 --> 00:42:52,700
with a patient in their own
home.

714
00:42:53,300 --> 00:42:56,400
I anticipate their every need
obey, the doctors directions, do

715
00:42:56,400 --> 00:42:58,900
whatever the family needed.
She wasn't supposed to bother

716
00:42:58,900 --> 00:43:02,100
them anyway, her shoes shouldn't
make a sound her newspaper

717
00:43:02,100 --> 00:43:04,700
shouldn't even Russell.
She was supposed to be

718
00:43:04,700 --> 00:43:06,800
constantly happy.
Never showing any signs of

719
00:43:06,808 --> 00:43:10,900
fatigue or irritation help with
household chores so launder

720
00:43:10,900 --> 00:43:16,100
clean and she'd be allowed to
take a daily walk by herself

721
00:43:16,100 --> 00:43:21,600
once a day. these, these gigs
were so intense that most nurses

722
00:43:21,700 --> 00:43:24,800
would take breaks in between
them, missing out on money

723
00:43:24,800 --> 00:43:30,700
because Is so stressful but she
liked it.

724
00:43:31,100 --> 00:43:34,900
Her being a husky or lady
allowed her to really pick

725
00:43:34,900 --> 00:43:37,200
people up, you know, do the
physical parts of the job,

726
00:43:37,200 --> 00:43:39,100
right?
She's very No Nonsense.

727
00:43:40,200 --> 00:43:44,500
And her employers like that.
And from 1892 to 1900, she was

728
00:43:44,500 --> 00:43:47,400
the most successful private
nurse and Cambridge.

729
00:43:48,200 --> 00:43:51,600
The most elite families wanted
her, her reputation was

730
00:43:51,600 --> 00:43:53,700
spotless.
Despite these bizarre stories

731
00:43:53,700 --> 00:43:56,600
about her upbringing.
That didn't make any sense and

732
00:43:56,600 --> 00:43:59,300
the rest of the house servants
knew she was just a lying sack

733
00:43:59,300 --> 00:44:02,300
of crap.
She was jealous.

734
00:44:02,300 --> 00:44:05,800
She had a bad temper.
She was vindictive and making

735
00:44:05,800 --> 00:44:08,300
trouble across the staff.
Was what she loved.

736
00:44:08,300 --> 00:44:13,300
She thought it was so much fun.
Just causing fights.

737
00:44:14,200 --> 00:44:16,900
She had found her calling.
Now holding the dying in her

738
00:44:16,900 --> 00:44:19,800
arms and since most of her
patients were elderly.

739
00:44:19,800 --> 00:44:22,100
Well, you know how we felt if
she felt about them?

740
00:44:23,600 --> 00:44:26,700
So it's not going to be
surprised that I'm a 26 1985.

741
00:44:26,700 --> 00:44:29,100
Jane poisons 83 year old Israel
Dunham.

742
00:44:29,600 --> 00:44:31,700
She would later tell the police
that he was getting feeble.

743
00:44:31,700 --> 00:44:34,500
And fussy the corner would
report that.

744
00:44:34,500 --> 00:44:37,300
Mr. Dunham died from heart
failure, brought on by a

745
00:44:37,300 --> 00:44:40,500
strangulated hernia, what is
weird about this?

746
00:44:40,500 --> 00:44:48,800
Is that Israel and lovey were
her landlords So most of Jane's

747
00:44:48,800 --> 00:44:51,700
jobs required her to board with
her patients, but occasionally

748
00:44:51,700 --> 00:44:54,000
she live on her own.
So, she set up a relationship

749
00:44:54,000 --> 00:44:57,000
with Israel and lovey where she
was pretty much the best tenant

750
00:44:57,000 --> 00:44:59,400
ever.
She was like, never there and

751
00:44:59,400 --> 00:45:03,100
still paying rent.
But after killing Israel, Jane

752
00:45:03,100 --> 00:45:06,400
stayed there with his widow,
just experiencing this grief

753
00:45:06,400 --> 00:45:09,900
until the fall of 1897 when she
got fed up with lovey, being

754
00:45:09,900 --> 00:45:13,000
old, and cranky and poison her
too.

755
00:45:14,900 --> 00:45:19,800
And lovey died, September 1980,
97, killing the Dunham's, really

756
00:45:19,800 --> 00:45:22,300
reminded her of how much she
hated older people.

757
00:45:24,900 --> 00:45:27,100
Now, what's interesting though,
is that James next victim is her

758
00:45:27,100 --> 00:45:30,400
closest one yet.
Her foster sister, Elizabeth

759
00:45:30,400 --> 00:45:34,200
Brigham.
So let's roll this back a little

760
00:45:34,200 --> 00:45:37,500
bit over the years Jana, her
foster sister keep in contact

761
00:45:37,600 --> 00:45:40,500
genuine, even visit Elizabeth,
and her husband normal, and they

762
00:45:40,500 --> 00:45:43,000
were proud of Jenny as they
called her for making something

763
00:45:43,000 --> 00:45:45,000
of herself.
And they still thought she was

764
00:45:45,000 --> 00:45:46,700
funny and charming.
And look, she wouldn't got

765
00:45:46,700 --> 00:45:49,200
became a nurse.
My mom was wrong about you.

766
00:45:50,900 --> 00:45:56,400
The issue is Jane has years of
hostility that she has never

767
00:45:56,400 --> 00:46:00,200
dealt with And she's a big chip
on her Soldier and she's

768
00:46:00,200 --> 00:46:02,600
maintained, its Grudge partially
because of their mother.

769
00:46:03,400 --> 00:46:05,900
But also like Jane, never really
got a chance to offload.

770
00:46:05,900 --> 00:46:08,700
Her true feelings on an.
And so, I think some of that

771
00:46:08,700 --> 00:46:11,200
hostility transferred to the
next available woman in the

772
00:46:11,200 --> 00:46:14,000
family.
Elizabeth to Jane, though, also

773
00:46:14,000 --> 00:46:16,800
Elizabeth was the living
embodiment of privilege.

774
00:46:17,600 --> 00:46:20,600
The kind of people, she just
couldn't stand born with a

775
00:46:20,607 --> 00:46:24,000
silver spoon in her mouth and
giving, well, social status of

776
00:46:24,000 --> 00:46:27,200
family who love and care for her
even though or animal.

777
00:46:27,300 --> 00:46:30,000
It was a chubby deacon at the
first trinitarian.

778
00:46:31,100 --> 00:46:34,900
Concord Congressional Church.
He very much, loved Elizabeth

779
00:46:35,100 --> 00:46:38,000
and Jane had never had that.
So she was also resentful of

780
00:46:38,000 --> 00:46:40,000
that too, right?
Yeah.

781
00:46:40,800 --> 00:46:43,100
Okay.
Despite being a nurse Jane

782
00:46:43,100 --> 00:46:45,300
hadn't earned any real Social
Capital.

783
00:46:46,300 --> 00:46:49,500
Now, for many years Gene took a
vacation to keep Cod and the

784
00:46:49,500 --> 00:46:53,700
summer of 1899, she invited her
sister now or more thought this

785
00:46:53,700 --> 00:46:55,700
was a great idea because
Elizabeth had been really

786
00:46:55,700 --> 00:46:58,900
depressed.
So then we called Melancholia

787
00:47:00,400 --> 00:47:02,400
and he thought a change of
scenery could help.

788
00:47:04,100 --> 00:47:07,600
Give their August 25th and the
next day, she and Jane go to the

789
00:47:07,600 --> 00:47:10,100
beach to have a picnic in these
white summer dresses.

790
00:47:11,100 --> 00:47:13,700
They went back to the cottage
and went to bed and the

791
00:47:13,700 --> 00:47:16,400
following morning, Elizabeth
doesn't come down for breakfast.

792
00:47:16,800 --> 00:47:20,000
Jane goes to the landlord and
says her sister sick, she needs

793
00:47:20,000 --> 00:47:23,100
a doctor and she sends a
telegraph to Armel saying that

794
00:47:23,100 --> 00:47:27,400
his wife is ill normal arrives,
on August 28th to find Elizabeth

795
00:47:27,400 --> 00:47:29,900
in a coma.
And the doctors saying she had a

796
00:47:29,900 --> 00:47:35,700
stroke of apoplexy and She died
the following morning as

797
00:47:35,700 --> 00:47:38,500
orbitals Gathering his wife's
things to go home.

798
00:47:38,800 --> 00:47:42,400
He discovers Elizabeth's bag.
Only has five dollars and he had

799
00:47:42,400 --> 00:47:44,300
insisted that.
If she was going on vacation,

800
00:47:44,300 --> 00:47:47,300
she take at least 50 bucks with
her James.

801
00:47:47,300 --> 00:47:52,000
Like I have no idea and then she
tells him, well, Elizabeth told

802
00:47:52,000 --> 00:47:54,700
me just before she died that she
wanted me to have her gold watch

803
00:47:54,700 --> 00:47:58,900
and her chain as a Keepsake or
almost like, okay?

804
00:47:58,900 --> 00:48:02,500
Sure you can have it.
Normal never saw her wear either

805
00:48:02,500 --> 00:48:06,000
item She would tell him later
that it was too precious to.

806
00:48:06,000 --> 00:48:08,800
We're all at work due to her
patients.

807
00:48:09,000 --> 00:48:10,900
But the truth was that she
pawned it all.

808
00:48:13,600 --> 00:48:16,300
Jean plan this murder and she
tell the police that it was her

809
00:48:16,300 --> 00:48:18,400
chance to get revenge on her
sister.

810
00:48:20,000 --> 00:48:22,600
Elizabeth was really the first
of my victims that I actually

811
00:48:22,600 --> 00:48:25,400
hated and poisoned with
vindictive purpose.

812
00:48:25,700 --> 00:48:29,000
So I let her die slowly with
gripping torture, I held her in

813
00:48:29,000 --> 00:48:32,300
my arms and watch with the light
as she gasped out her life.

814
00:48:36,200 --> 00:48:38,800
Her next victim is 70 year old
Mary mcneir.

815
00:48:39,100 --> 00:48:40,500
Now, mrs.
McNair, came to town on

816
00:48:40,500 --> 00:48:44,600
Christmas Day, 1899, and visit
her daughter who was ill and

817
00:48:44,600 --> 00:48:47,700
Cambridge and she got her six
herself.

818
00:48:47,700 --> 00:48:50,300
Sick on the trip from Watertown
at Cambridge.

819
00:48:50,300 --> 00:48:52,700
So they're both sick, the
following afternoon, she gets

820
00:48:52,700 --> 00:48:55,900
visited by her granddaughter,
whose name is Evelyn Shaw and

821
00:48:55,900 --> 00:48:57,700
Evelyn.
Saw her sitting on her parlor,

822
00:48:58,500 --> 00:49:01,900
on a sofa wrapped in a shawl in
front of the fireplace.

823
00:49:01,900 --> 00:49:04,000
She's happy but she's got some
skills.

824
00:49:04,400 --> 00:49:07,000
Sneezing the following day.
She has a cough and she

825
00:49:07,000 --> 00:49:13,200
requested her doctor doctor,
wesselhoft, Walter wesselhoft.

826
00:49:14,000 --> 00:49:16,500
Walters like, I hear some
congestion, but you'll be fine

827
00:49:16,700 --> 00:49:18,700
her family's.
Like she needs a nurse.

828
00:49:18,700 --> 00:49:21,500
She's old and the doctors, like,
not really.

829
00:49:21,500 --> 00:49:26,200
She just needs to like, Rest,
they insisted a nurse so he

830
00:49:26,200 --> 00:49:30,700
sends one of his best Jane.
On December 28th.

831
00:49:30,800 --> 00:49:34,200
Evelyn Shaw returns to visit her
grandmother and meets Jane

832
00:49:34,600 --> 00:49:37,100
Evelyn's impressed and fills her
grandmother's in.

833
00:49:37,100 --> 00:49:40,000
Good hands.
She goes home and learns that

834
00:49:40,000 --> 00:49:42,500
she'd been called back to
Cambridge mrs.

835
00:49:42,500 --> 00:49:46,500
McNair had passed out and could
not be woken when Evelyn came

836
00:49:46,500 --> 00:49:48,800
back to her grandmother's house.
Dr. Walters there.

837
00:49:49,100 --> 00:49:53,000
And he's like, it looks like she
suffered a stroke of a puppy

838
00:49:53,000 --> 00:49:55,900
asleep.
Jane's.

839
00:49:55,900 --> 00:49:59,700
Like she took her medicine a
quiver came over her face.

840
00:49:59,700 --> 00:50:01,700
Followed by a second and then
she fell back.

841
00:50:02,100 --> 00:50:06,100
Unconscious.
Hmm, you really didn't notify?

842
00:50:06,400 --> 00:50:08,800
Yeah, Jay notified the staff and
told them she was going to try

843
00:50:08,800 --> 00:50:11,800
and revive Mary and one of the
head Cooks was like, yeah, we're

844
00:50:11,800 --> 00:50:15,200
going to call it dr.
Mary died.

845
00:50:15,200 --> 00:50:20,100
The following morning never
coming out of her coma after she

846
00:50:20,100 --> 00:50:22,600
died, her family, discovered
missing clothes from Mary's

847
00:50:22,600 --> 00:50:25,600
closet and they asked dr.
Walter if it could be Jane and

848
00:50:25,600 --> 00:50:29,300
he was like, absolutely not.
So, the family dropped it,

849
00:50:29,300 --> 00:50:32,100
seeing how it made dr.
Walter pretty upset and truly

850
00:50:32,100 --> 00:50:33,800
wasn't that big of a deal,
honestly.

851
00:50:36,100 --> 00:50:39,100
Now, Mary was a peculiar Victim
Because at this point of jeans

852
00:50:39,100 --> 00:50:44,300
career, she's telling people she
knows and it's kind of weird

853
00:50:44,300 --> 00:50:48,600
that she meets Mary and the same
day decides to kill her.

854
00:50:49,200 --> 00:50:51,300
It's a one hell of an
escalation.

855
00:50:51,300 --> 00:50:57,100
I'll say that January 1st, 1990
comes with absolutely no

856
00:50:57,100 --> 00:51:00,400
fanfare.
Not Like Us in 2000 when we

857
00:51:00,400 --> 00:51:01,700
thought the whole world was
going to die.

858
00:51:08,700 --> 00:51:11,900
Normal any Year celebration.
But honestly the New York Times

859
00:51:12,100 --> 00:51:15,400
post the first post about the
new year was that a man in New

860
00:51:15,400 --> 00:51:18,600
Jersey had gotten a cricket
stuck in his ear and he had been

861
00:51:18,600 --> 00:51:24,900
driven mad.
Oh, That sounds horrible, it

862
00:51:24,900 --> 00:51:28,300
does sound horrible, but Jane,
Jane spinning, the beginning of

863
00:51:28,300 --> 00:51:31,500
the year, thinking about her
foster sister and take him when

864
00:51:31,500 --> 00:51:35,500
she felt like he deserved, which
was Jazz Elizabeth's husband,

865
00:51:36,600 --> 00:51:39,800
she been thinking about this for
two years now, almost 60 years

866
00:51:39,800 --> 00:51:41,900
old.
He's not really appealing to

867
00:51:41,900 --> 00:51:46,900
anybody in the area, but Jane's,
make sure that if he gets close

868
00:51:46,900 --> 00:51:49,100
with someone, he kills them, she
kills them.

869
00:51:49,500 --> 00:51:52,600
So when she visits or emerges
after the new year, And she

870
00:51:52,600 --> 00:51:54,300
learns that one of the
housekeeper's is getting a

871
00:51:54,308 --> 00:51:59,100
little bit too close to him.
She poisons that woman, 45

872
00:51:59,100 --> 00:52:02,900
year-old Florence, Calkins
Florence dies on January 15th,

873
00:52:02,900 --> 00:52:06,800
1989 would later, tell the
police I was jealous of her.

874
00:52:07,200 --> 00:52:09,500
I knew she wanted to become mr.
Brigham's wife?

875
00:52:11,100 --> 00:52:13,400
Now, Jane killed another
elderly, patient, William and

876
00:52:13,400 --> 00:52:16,200
Graham about two weeks later, we
don't know much about William.

877
00:52:16,200 --> 00:52:19,200
Other than the fact that he was
70, this murder would appear to

878
00:52:19,200 --> 00:52:22,700
give some semblance of normalcy
to her normal way, she handles

879
00:52:22,700 --> 00:52:30,600
things, you know, Jane however
went right back to killing

880
00:52:30,600 --> 00:52:34,400
people.
She knew that is mrs.

881
00:52:34,400 --> 00:52:37,900
Myrick honors Myra was one of
the few people who we could have

882
00:52:37,900 --> 00:52:41,300
called a close friend.
To Jane, if serial killers can

883
00:52:41,300 --> 00:52:44,700
have close relationships at all
my rules 40.

884
00:52:44,700 --> 00:52:47,400
She was a widow.
She worked as a matron of the

885
00:52:47,400 --> 00:52:50,400
refectory at st.
John's theological School in

886
00:52:50,400 --> 00:52:54,700
Cambridge, the to didn't really
match in terms of their looks,

887
00:52:55,100 --> 00:53:00,000
we have Jane who's, you know,
stocky She was described many

888
00:53:00,000 --> 00:53:05,400
times in books as books them.
So I guess she was the best egal

889
00:53:05,400 --> 00:53:10,300
to and Myra is this like super
short petite was like the

890
00:53:10,300 --> 00:53:14,100
pince-nez glasses, you know?
Yeah.

891
00:53:14,100 --> 00:53:15,800
We don't know how they met, but
we know that they've been

892
00:53:15,800 --> 00:53:19,800
friends for years before Jane
decide to kill her and it was

893
00:53:19,800 --> 00:53:23,300
because Jane was jealous.
She was envious of the way that

894
00:53:23,300 --> 00:53:26,400
she would of my Row the same way
she was envious of Elizabeth,

895
00:53:26,900 --> 00:53:29,400
but Jane wanted job that Myra
had.

896
00:53:30,400 --> 00:53:33,000
Now, some people believe that
she wanted to change careers and

897
00:53:33,000 --> 00:53:35,700
not kill anymore.
An attempt to stop the

898
00:53:35,700 --> 00:53:39,200
compulsion.
I don't agree with that, okay?

899
00:53:40,300 --> 00:53:42,800
Mira's job duties at this job
included.

900
00:53:42,900 --> 00:53:47,400
Overseeing the dining hall.
And I think that Jane wanted to

901
00:53:47,400 --> 00:53:50,500
poison people but she did.
That's the easier access to.

902
00:53:50,500 --> 00:53:53,500
Yeah, she could just throw it in
a little and see how it affected

903
00:53:53,500 --> 00:53:56,300
people.
On top of that she would have

904
00:53:56,300 --> 00:53:58,100
been paid well.
Give it a nice apartment and

905
00:53:58,100 --> 00:54:01,400
Burnham Hall with a private made
it her own meal time.

906
00:54:01,400 --> 00:54:05,900
Wait staff no brainer kill this
lady.

907
00:54:05,900 --> 00:54:10,400
Take over her life.
Now, the day after Myra gets

908
00:54:10,400 --> 00:54:15,100
sick, she calls her doctor her
burry McIntyre and he thinks she

909
00:54:15,100 --> 00:54:18,900
has localized.
Peritonitis, for those who don't

910
00:54:18,900 --> 00:54:23,500
know, your peritoneum is, the
membrane in your stomach and

911
00:54:23,500 --> 00:54:25,600
peritonitis is when it's
inflamed.

912
00:54:26,300 --> 00:54:28,900
So, he described.
He prescribes her arrowroot

913
00:54:28,900 --> 00:54:33,200
poultices and powdered opium.
Jane shows up to help her friend

914
00:54:33,200 --> 00:54:38,200
on February 7th. 1981 after said
that Meyer had been progressing

915
00:54:38,200 --> 00:54:43,100
favor bleah but it all stops
with Jane shows up on February

916
00:54:43,100 --> 00:54:47,400
11th, Myra dies convulsing.
So intensely, the one of her

917
00:54:47,400 --> 00:54:50,300
arms breaks.
Oh my God, my report.

918
00:54:50,400 --> 00:54:52,000
My room was poisoned with
strychnine.

919
00:54:52,500 --> 00:54:55,300
It was particularly brutal and
for somebody who had done,

920
00:54:55,300 --> 00:54:58,900
absolutely nothing to Jane other
than just have the job Seeker.

921
00:55:01,000 --> 00:55:03,900
Now, mind you, Myra hasn't even
been dead that long, and Jane

922
00:55:03,900 --> 00:55:05,600
approaches the dean of the
school.

923
00:55:05,800 --> 00:55:08,600
Dr. Hodges.
And it's like, listen, Myra told

924
00:55:08,600 --> 00:55:11,300
me she was going on, sabbatical,
and she had been telling me

925
00:55:11,500 --> 00:55:14,000
about what this job entails, and
that maybe I could have been her

926
00:55:14,008 --> 00:55:19,200
temporary replacement and dr.
Hodges is like, I mean, if you

927
00:55:19,200 --> 00:55:21,100
know how to do it, come do the
job.

928
00:55:21,100 --> 00:55:23,400
We got an opening.
All right?

929
00:55:23,700 --> 00:55:24,900
She's like, I need a couple
days.

930
00:55:24,900 --> 00:55:25,900
I really need to think about
this.

931
00:55:25,900 --> 00:55:29,000
I love my patients, she comes
back, and she's like listen,

932
00:55:29,600 --> 00:55:32,400
I've given it some real thought.
And I'll accept because I just

933
00:55:32,400 --> 00:55:40,600
love Myra.
Okay, I'll being crafty James

934
00:55:40,600 --> 00:55:42,600
happy.
Her plans are falling in line

935
00:55:42,900 --> 00:55:45,700
but here's the problem.
Jane's, not good at this job

936
00:55:47,500 --> 00:55:50,200
very quickly, She's accused of
being incompetent.

937
00:55:50,400 --> 00:55:53,200
There's the fission of her doing
things with pilot with the

938
00:55:53,200 --> 00:55:57,000
books.
In terms of ordering food, they

939
00:55:57,000 --> 00:55:58,700
kind of give her a chance.
They're like, listen, let her

940
00:55:58,700 --> 00:56:02,500
finish out the semester, she
takes a job at a mess hall at

941
00:56:02,500 --> 00:56:04,700
Woods Hole, which is a biology
School.

942
00:56:04,800 --> 00:56:08,500
If she comes back to the
theological school in the fall,

943
00:56:08,500 --> 00:56:10,900
Having learned nothing, oh my
God.

944
00:56:11,200 --> 00:56:14,800
By November, there are so many
complaints filed against her but

945
00:56:14,800 --> 00:56:18,600
the dean just has to do
something like she hadn't paid

946
00:56:18,600 --> 00:56:21,400
the kitchen staff for like a
month and they're just like, he

947
00:56:21,400 --> 00:56:27,600
says, listen, you did your best,
I'ma need you to resign Jane is

948
00:56:27,600 --> 00:56:29,600
devastated.
Here's the thing.

949
00:56:29,600 --> 00:56:32,300
She's arrogant.
Like many serial killers are and

950
00:56:32,300 --> 00:56:34,400
she thinks that she's great at
everything.

951
00:56:37,000 --> 00:56:40,500
And and this is like such a
major blow to her.

952
00:56:41,300 --> 00:56:48,700
That it does make sense for me
that James next Big thing is

953
00:56:48,700 --> 00:56:50,800
that she goes on that.
She kills my entire family.

954
00:56:52,900 --> 00:56:58,200
Okay, let's get ready, quickly.
Oh, that's how it goes.

955
00:56:58,200 --> 00:57:02,900
They start with, like, you know,
one every few years, then every

956
00:57:02,900 --> 00:57:08,400
few months, then now, every
couple weeks, mmm.

957
00:57:08,700 --> 00:57:11,300
Okay.
For this, we have to go back to

958
00:57:11,300 --> 00:57:14,400
cotuit, which is this beautiful
Village in, Cape Cod, where Jane

959
00:57:14,400 --> 00:57:17,700
killed her foster sister.
Now Jane has stated this College

960
00:57:17,700 --> 00:57:21,300
owned by, Alden David, a pretty,
wealthy man, who had a really

961
00:57:21,300 --> 00:57:25,500
great, like, reputation in the
community and she had stayed

962
00:57:25,500 --> 00:57:28,100
there for the last five years,
this point, and even though

963
00:57:28,100 --> 00:57:32,100
Alden was in his late 60s and
ready to retire, he allowed Jane

964
00:57:32,100 --> 00:57:35,100
to come right from him because
she had always been his favorite

965
00:57:35,100 --> 00:57:38,400
tenant on top of being very
pleasant, and kind his family.

966
00:57:38,400 --> 00:57:41,400
When they needed medical help,
she was happy to give it even

967
00:57:41,400 --> 00:57:45,800
while she was on vacation to the
davises and the neighbors she'd

968
00:57:45,800 --> 00:57:48,400
even babysit their kids.
If someone To take a trip to

969
00:57:48,400 --> 00:57:50,700
town for the day.
And if someone in the all the

970
00:57:50,700 --> 00:57:54,500
family got sick, he would just
deduct money from her rat, but

971
00:57:54,500 --> 00:57:57,700
ultimately Gene was never really
able to pay the full amount, but

972
00:57:57,700 --> 00:57:59,400
they liked her so much.
They would let her just kind of

973
00:57:59,408 --> 00:58:02,500
pay it off over time, but by the
end of the fifth summer in Cape

974
00:58:02,500 --> 00:58:09,800
Cod, Gino the Davis Family $500.
While Alden didn't seem to care

975
00:58:09,800 --> 00:58:13,800
a whole lot.
His wife Maddie absolutely cared

976
00:58:13,800 --> 00:58:19,800
and she was over this so that
year so we're talking it's 1900

977
00:58:21,300 --> 00:58:25,500
or was it 1900 1901 now?
Yes, June first Maddie's

978
00:58:25,500 --> 00:58:30,500
daughter Genevieve is like I'm
going to be stopping in Boston

979
00:58:30,600 --> 00:58:33,300
to visit my in-laws, before I
come back home for the summer

980
00:58:33,700 --> 00:58:35,800
and Maddie's.
Like, let's make a day of this.

981
00:58:35,800 --> 00:58:39,000
I'll come have lunch with you,
but Maddie's plan is, I'm gonna

982
00:58:39,000 --> 00:58:41,500
stop by Cambridge to talk to
Jane and tell her.

983
00:58:41,500 --> 00:58:44,000
She's not, welcome back at the
Davis estate and so, she pays

984
00:58:44,000 --> 00:58:46,800
her whole bill and then I'll go
to Boston and have lunch with

985
00:58:46,800 --> 00:58:50,400
the inlaws.
So, she tells her husband has a

986
00:58:50,408 --> 00:58:52,100
plan, and he's not really mad at
her anything.

987
00:58:52,100 --> 00:58:55,700
He's just like, listen, you're
62 where you're not in the best

988
00:58:55,700 --> 00:58:58,500
health, like you really want to
take this trip and Maddie's like

989
00:58:58,600 --> 00:59:00,700
Listen, it's now or never,
you're too nice.

990
00:59:02,700 --> 00:59:07,200
So Maddie takes the the trip on
June 25th, the summer of 1901

991
00:59:07,200 --> 00:59:08,700
was one of the hottest on the
East Coast.

992
00:59:08,700 --> 00:59:12,100
We've talked about this before
and other older timey killings

993
00:59:12,200 --> 00:59:16,300
but they called it the hot wave
and in the course of four days,

994
00:59:16,300 --> 00:59:19,400
the first four days of July
over, 400 people died.

995
00:59:21,800 --> 00:59:25,000
So Maddie was like, I'm just
going to do this, she almost

996
00:59:25,000 --> 00:59:26,700
doesn't go because she gets her
stuff.

997
00:59:26,700 --> 00:59:28,000
Ready?
And she realizes she's about to

998
00:59:28,000 --> 00:59:32,400
miss the 645 train to Cambridge.
So I'll then actually heads over

999
00:59:32,400 --> 00:59:35,900
there and stops the conductor to
tell him his wife's.

1000
00:59:35,900 --> 00:59:38,900
Her, his wife's coming Maddie
rushing to the train, which is

1001
00:59:38,900 --> 00:59:41,100
only 300 feet away from their
front door of their house.

1002
00:59:41,300 --> 00:59:44,500
Trips falls down a hill, her
husband helps her and they kind

1003
00:59:44,500 --> 00:59:46,600
of get her onto the train and
get her situated.

1004
00:59:46,600 --> 00:59:48,800
The men who are watching her
pretty surprised at all the let

1005
00:59:48,800 --> 00:59:52,400
her go, but she was very
determined I feel like it was

1006
00:59:52,400 --> 00:59:54,900
almost like the world was trying
to keep her from going to Jane's

1007
00:59:54,900 --> 00:59:56,500
House.
Great, it was chatty, just

1008
00:59:56,500 --> 00:59:59,300
wasn't having it.
It was trying to give you a sign

1009
00:59:59,300 --> 01:00:01,400
and you not.
Listen, your husband tried to

1010
01:00:01,400 --> 01:00:05,600
stop you and then you almost
missed the train and then you

1011
01:00:05,600 --> 01:00:08,600
almost hurt yourself, falling
down the train.

1012
01:00:08,900 --> 01:00:17,400
Hmm, just don't do it.
But she did it.

1013
01:00:18,600 --> 01:00:24,700
Yes.
Now on the train Maddie's

1014
01:00:24,700 --> 01:00:27,300
talking about her neighbor is
about where she's going, and the

1015
01:00:27,308 --> 01:00:30,000
neighbors, like, oh my God, I
can't believe Jolly, Jenny was

1016
01:00:30,000 --> 01:00:31,600
taking advantage of you like
that.

1017
01:00:31,600 --> 01:00:34,200
And the neighbors, like, listen,
if it's me, I would leave it all

1018
01:00:34,200 --> 01:00:38,200
without all my money.
Now, after killing her other,

1019
01:00:38,200 --> 01:00:40,900
landlords Gene had been boarded,
yet another house owned by an

1020
01:00:40,900 --> 01:00:43,000
XD.
Council member named Melvin

1021
01:00:43,000 --> 01:00:48,000
Beetle, and his wife Eliza now,
Jane had poisoned Melvin, and

1022
01:00:48,000 --> 01:00:50,600
Eliza to, but not enough to kill
him, just to give him some

1023
01:00:50,600 --> 01:00:53,400
stomach cramps.
She'd so drug their housekeeper,

1024
01:00:53,400 --> 01:00:56,700
Mary Sullivan to get her fired
and then told Eliza that she

1025
01:00:56,700 --> 01:01:00,100
caught Mary drinking and Eliza
found Mary pass it on her bed.

1026
01:01:00,300 --> 01:01:04,500
Of course, they fire her, put
her in a carriage and send her

1027
01:01:04,500 --> 01:01:07,200
away and Jane takes over that
lady's duties.

1028
01:01:07,500 --> 01:01:11,500
So it's the 25th and Maddie
arrives and Jane had just made

1029
01:01:11,500 --> 01:01:14,600
dinner for herself in the
Beatles, but Jane kind of knows

1030
01:01:14,600 --> 01:01:17,200
score already.
So she goes and she grabs the

1031
01:01:17,200 --> 01:01:20,900
mineral water that she loves to
give to people and offers it to

1032
01:01:20,900 --> 01:01:23,000
Maddie.
And she's Like, you know, we can

1033
01:01:23,000 --> 01:01:25,700
deal with this after dinner.
They all eat together and Maddie

1034
01:01:25,700 --> 01:01:29,100
drinks that entire glass, which
is made of hunyadi mineral,

1035
01:01:29,100 --> 01:01:34,400
water and morphea after dinner,
Jane's like, okay, we can go to

1036
01:01:34,400 --> 01:01:39,100
the bank and take out the money
and Maddie agrees, when she

1037
01:01:39,100 --> 01:01:42,500
stands up she gets dizzy and
James like, well, maybe it was

1038
01:01:42,500 --> 01:01:47,700
that fall.
You took and Maddie had told

1039
01:01:47,700 --> 01:01:51,000
them about the fall that morning
but she's like I'm fine and as

1040
01:01:51,000 --> 01:01:54,000
soon as they get outside of the
house, she falls.

1041
01:01:54,200 --> 01:01:56,600
Like she just collapses it with
how hot it was.

1042
01:01:56,600 --> 01:02:00,400
No one's breaking at the, I idea
of an elderly woman falling

1043
01:02:00,400 --> 01:02:02,600
down, right?
So Jane picks her up and bring

1044
01:02:02,600 --> 01:02:06,600
her back into the house Jane and
Melvin carrier upstairs into an

1045
01:02:06,600 --> 01:02:09,000
empty room.
Like maybe it's just, you know,

1046
01:02:09,100 --> 01:02:12,900
heat exhaustion some fatigue,
Melvin gets her some cold water

1047
01:02:12,900 --> 01:02:15,300
and Jane gives her another dose
of morphine.

1048
01:02:15,300 --> 01:02:19,500
Via to quiet her.
Now, Jane sends a message to all

1049
01:02:19,500 --> 01:02:22,400
dancing that Maddie is sick.
She sends a telegraph to

1050
01:02:22,400 --> 01:02:24,800
Genevieve her daughter in
Somerville who've been waiting

1051
01:02:24,800 --> 01:02:28,900
for her mom, Genevieve arrives,
the next day and insists on

1052
01:02:28,900 --> 01:02:31,400
Doctor.
It takes a while to find one who

1053
01:02:31,500 --> 01:02:34,900
wasn't busy or had left the
heat, you know, left do the heat

1054
01:02:35,200 --> 01:02:37,500
that guy who shows up as dr.
John T.

1055
01:02:37,500 --> 01:02:41,900
G Nichols and Nichols is a
pretty a famous doctor because

1056
01:02:41,900 --> 01:02:45,300
he had been involved in the case
of Sarah Jane Robinson.

1057
01:02:45,400 --> 01:02:49,000
Who Was a Serial poisoner who
have poisoned people with rat

1058
01:02:49,000 --> 01:02:51,700
poison and dr.
Nichols one of the doctors who

1059
01:02:51,700 --> 01:02:57,500
misdiagnosed Prince Arthur
Freeman as a disease of the

1060
01:02:57,500 --> 01:03:00,300
stomach, instead of arsenic
poisoning, mrs.

1061
01:03:00,300 --> 01:03:03,500
Robinson went on to kill seven
more people that experience made

1062
01:03:03,500 --> 01:03:07,100
him aware, and he had spent a
decade repairing his reputation,

1063
01:03:07,500 --> 01:03:13,500
but he was about to also not get
this one because Jane didn't use

1064
01:03:13,500 --> 01:03:16,200
arsenic and so he didn't see the
signs.

1065
01:03:19,300 --> 01:03:21,900
And she tells dr.
Nichols that mrs.

1066
01:03:21,900 --> 01:03:25,900
Davis, is a diabetic who had
eaten all this cake at dinner

1067
01:03:26,100 --> 01:03:28,400
and collapsed afterward.
And when dr.

1068
01:03:28,400 --> 01:03:31,700
Nichols checked it, it appeared
that she was suffering from a

1069
01:03:31,707 --> 01:03:36,000
diabetic coma, they even tested
her urine and the sugar content

1070
01:03:36,000 --> 01:03:38,100
was super high.
Of course, Jin.

1071
01:03:38,100 --> 01:03:41,700
Collected it before the doctor,
got there of kids, he didn't

1072
01:03:41,700 --> 01:03:44,100
have any reason to doubt that it
had been doctored.

1073
01:03:45,800 --> 01:03:49,800
For the next seven days, Jane
plays with Maddie's life and she

1074
01:03:49,800 --> 01:03:54,600
does it under the nose of her
landlords Maddie's own like and

1075
01:03:54,600 --> 01:03:57,200
the doctors.
And the daughter, Jane gave her

1076
01:03:57,200 --> 01:04:00,300
different doses of atropine, and
morphine and Other Drugs to test

1077
01:04:00,300 --> 01:04:01,900
the results.
And really kind of confused

1078
01:04:01,900 --> 01:04:04,500
people at one point.
She gave Maddie a do strong

1079
01:04:04,500 --> 01:04:08,000
enough to wake her up and then
do stir again and make her go

1080
01:04:08,000 --> 01:04:09,900
back into the coma.
What the hell?

1081
01:04:10,600 --> 01:04:11,700
Oh yeah.
No James game.

1082
01:04:11,700 --> 01:04:14,100
High on a power trip of this
lady.

1083
01:04:14,100 --> 01:04:18,400
Who She felt like showed up wave
at her wealth and James face.

1084
01:04:18,800 --> 01:04:22,300
And she finally, let's Maddie
died on July 4th, and she goes

1085
01:04:22,300 --> 01:04:24,700
back for the funeral the
following day.

1086
01:04:25,100 --> 01:04:27,200
Jane, would later tell the
police that was when she decided

1087
01:04:27,200 --> 01:04:30,500
to kill the rest of the family,
and she said she was sitting

1088
01:04:30,500 --> 01:04:33,300
there, just watching the people
leave the funeral going.

1089
01:04:33,700 --> 01:04:34,900
You better.
Wait a little while.

1090
01:04:35,000 --> 01:04:36,600
I'll have another funeral for
you.

1091
01:04:37,000 --> 01:04:39,700
If you wait, it'll save you from
gone back and forth.

1092
01:04:43,100 --> 01:04:46,300
After Maddie's funeral, Jane is
like, okay, well I'm going to

1093
01:04:46,308 --> 01:04:49,400
head back home.
Sorry for your loss and

1094
01:04:49,400 --> 01:04:52,700
Genevieve and her sister.
Many are like no, no, no stay.

1095
01:04:53,000 --> 01:04:55,100
And she's like, listen, I don't
have the money this year, which

1096
01:04:55,100 --> 01:04:57,800
is why I didn't come up earlier
and the sisters are like,

1097
01:04:57,800 --> 01:05:01,400
listen, we want you to stay look
after our dad will cover it.

1098
01:05:02,300 --> 01:05:06,700
He's sick with grief.
And so Jane moves into the main

1099
01:05:06,700 --> 01:05:11,000
house, the family.
Oh my God, which is when she

1100
01:05:11,000 --> 01:05:15,500
starts setting fires, what?
So she's not content with just,

1101
01:05:15,500 --> 01:05:19,600
you know, murdering people.
She said, the first one within

1102
01:05:19,600 --> 01:05:23,500
the first week, she's there with
a bunch of paper in the closet

1103
01:05:23,500 --> 01:05:26,600
and then goes back to her room.
She was intending on killing

1104
01:05:26,600 --> 01:05:30,000
Alden, but he had been
struggling with insomnia and he

1105
01:05:30,000 --> 01:05:33,200
smelled the smoke yelled for
people and Jane cape and help

1106
01:05:33,200 --> 01:05:34,400
them put it out.
Out.

1107
01:05:34,400 --> 01:05:36,700
She tries to get a couple days
later, setting fire to the

1108
01:05:36,700 --> 01:05:38,900
pantry and then going and
talking to the neighbors down,

1109
01:05:38,900 --> 01:05:42,000
the street, the neighbors
noticed, the fire, and then they

1110
01:05:42,000 --> 01:05:45,800
all run and put it out a week
later, she tries it again, and

1111
01:05:45,800 --> 01:05:49,300
she tells album that she'd seen
a stranger lurking outside, the

1112
01:05:49,300 --> 01:05:51,800
house, the village is in a
tizzy.

1113
01:05:51,900 --> 01:05:55,900
There's a firebug on the loose,
the neighbors are just like,

1114
01:05:55,900 --> 01:05:57,500
wow.
The davises are just having the

1115
01:05:57,500 --> 01:06:02,600
worst left, right out, your why.
The next to die is Genevieve.

1116
01:06:03,500 --> 01:06:05,900
Losing your mom is hard but
Genevieve's, definitely blamed

1117
01:06:05,900 --> 01:06:09,900
herself.
Because Maddie has wanted to,

1118
01:06:10,000 --> 01:06:13,900
you know, demanded to me her in
Boston and I'm sure she said to

1119
01:06:13,900 --> 01:06:16,600
herself, you know, if she just
stayed home she would have lived

1120
01:06:17,000 --> 01:06:19,200
Jim.
He was so sad that Jane decided

1121
01:06:19,200 --> 01:06:22,500
she'd be better off dead than
depressed and she started by

1122
01:06:22,500 --> 01:06:25,700
planting seeds of worry.
And her older sister many said

1123
01:06:26,000 --> 01:06:28,700
she's like I saw her walking
around the grounds and she

1124
01:06:28,700 --> 01:06:31,600
picked up this box and she
looked at it and when I went and

1125
01:06:31,600 --> 01:06:34,500
looked at the box, it was Paris
green, which if people don't

1126
01:06:34,500 --> 01:06:37,400
know, that's an insecticide,
that's real, not good.

1127
01:06:38,400 --> 01:06:40,900
Jean told me she was worried
that Genevieve was going to kill

1128
01:06:40,900 --> 01:06:44,000
herself and it made sense, I
mean, Alden was struggling her

1129
01:06:44,000 --> 01:06:47,600
her dad, he was always eccentric
and he's having more weird

1130
01:06:47,600 --> 01:06:50,600
outbursts and that had to be
affecting her too.

1131
01:06:52,200 --> 01:06:56,400
So, on, July 26, after dinner,
Genevieve got violently ill and

1132
01:06:56,400 --> 01:06:59,600
vomited into her throat was raw.
Then that nausea lasted through

1133
01:06:59,600 --> 01:07:03,300
the night, Jane tended to her,
gave her water.

1134
01:07:03,700 --> 01:07:06,600
And then the middle of night
went to finish the job in the

1135
01:07:06,600 --> 01:07:08,200
morning.
Jane inform, the family that

1136
01:07:08,200 --> 01:07:10,900
Genevieve had died.
A local doctor said it looked

1137
01:07:10,900 --> 01:07:17,600
like heart disease and Jane's.
Husband should And she told the

1138
01:07:17,600 --> 01:07:23,700
husband that she had found one
of her syringes stolen and that

1139
01:07:23,700 --> 01:07:26,600
it had Paris green in it.
But she didn't want all that.

1140
01:07:26,600 --> 01:07:29,700
Are many to know.
They agreed to keep it a secret

1141
01:07:29,700 --> 01:07:33,900
and she disposed of the syringe
in an outhouse like in the hole.

1142
01:07:35,100 --> 01:07:38,400
Jane told the police later I
went to the funeral and felt as

1143
01:07:38,400 --> 01:07:41,600
Jolly as could be and nobody
suspected me in the least.

1144
01:07:42,100 --> 01:07:45,900
You're disgusting.
Well, Jane decides to put all

1145
01:07:45,900 --> 01:07:49,400
the Out of his misery.
Next on August 8, Alden makes a

1146
01:07:49,400 --> 01:07:52,900
day trip to Boston because he's
going to file a complaint with

1147
01:07:52,900 --> 01:07:56,600
the people who made the coffin
for Genevieve, because he felt

1148
01:07:56,600 --> 01:08:00,600
like he had been overcharged, he
comes back, he's home, sweaty

1149
01:08:00,600 --> 01:08:04,400
tired, Jane Foster has over him
comes back with a glass of

1150
01:08:04,400 --> 01:08:06,300
water, you know, her special
water.

1151
01:08:07,400 --> 01:08:09,600
He drank the entire thing.
And the following morning he

1152
01:08:09,600 --> 01:08:12,400
didn't come down for breakfast
aldens granddaughter, went to

1153
01:08:12,400 --> 01:08:15,000
check on him and came
downstairs, really upset.

1154
01:08:15,100 --> 01:08:16,800
She's like Grandpa.
Wake up.

1155
01:08:17,300 --> 01:08:21,899
So of course, Jane, many and
Harry, all leap, up and run

1156
01:08:21,899 --> 01:08:26,200
upstairs.
Alden is cold and gray.

1157
01:08:27,500 --> 01:08:29,700
They call dr.
The doctors like, it looks like

1158
01:08:29,700 --> 01:08:32,000
his heart gave out.
We must have been the

1159
01:08:32,000 --> 01:08:35,500
combination of the laws, these
fires traveling.

1160
01:08:35,500 --> 01:08:38,200
It's just too much.
For a 64 year old Mary drinky

1161
01:08:38,200 --> 01:08:42,300
drink.
No Jane was like, I mean, what

1162
01:08:42,300 --> 01:08:45,500
about the cost of the funerals
and that could have been adding

1163
01:08:45,500 --> 01:08:47,800
to his stress.
S2 and having to go up to

1164
01:08:47,800 --> 01:08:52,600
Boston, AA argue with that guy.
Jane is in the midst of a full

1165
01:08:52,600 --> 01:08:54,600
murder spring.
She's out of control and the

1166
01:08:54,600 --> 01:08:57,399
speed of the deaths are
increasing because many has

1167
01:08:57,399 --> 01:08:59,200
killed five days after her
father.

1168
01:09:01,200 --> 01:09:05,700
Now, for aldens funeral, a bunch
of other family came up to

1169
01:09:05,700 --> 01:09:09,500
support many and many's cousin
is like, listen, how about we

1170
01:09:09,500 --> 01:09:12,500
all leave this house which is
dark and depressing.

1171
01:09:12,700 --> 01:09:14,600
We'll go to Woods Hole will have
a good day.

1172
01:09:14,800 --> 01:09:18,100
So James like listen here, many
take some cocoa wine for the

1173
01:09:18,108 --> 01:09:21,100
drive up to, you know, kind of
Steel your nerves.

1174
01:09:21,399 --> 01:09:24,000
Of course, there's morphea in it
and by the time they get back

1175
01:09:24,000 --> 01:09:27,100
that afternoon, many is
exhausted and she can't even get

1176
01:09:27,100 --> 01:09:29,700
up the steps to her room.
Since you just hangs out in the

1177
01:09:30,100 --> 01:09:33,200
Parlor.
Jane gives her some water and

1178
01:09:33,200 --> 01:09:34,600
insist.
She needs it because of the

1179
01:09:34,600 --> 01:09:37,000
heat, the water has both
morphia.

1180
01:09:37,000 --> 01:09:42,800
And at atropine in it, many goes
to sleep and slips into a coma.

1181
01:09:48,800 --> 01:09:52,800
In a really disgusting kind of
moment instead of hopping into

1182
01:09:52,800 --> 01:09:57,400
bed with many, like she was used
to Jane goes and wakes up minis,

1183
01:09:57,400 --> 01:10:02,700
10 year old son and makes him
lay in bed with her as she

1184
01:10:02,700 --> 01:10:05,600
Comforts him.
While his mother is literally

1185
01:10:05,600 --> 01:10:11,000
dying beneath them.
No, Minnie's cousin.

1186
01:10:11,000 --> 01:10:15,100
Wakes up and sees many
downstairs.

1187
01:10:15,300 --> 01:10:19,200
Then she wakes up Harry and they
look at this very limp.

1188
01:10:19,200 --> 01:10:22,400
Barely breathing.
Many the doctors say she's all

1189
01:10:22,400 --> 01:10:25,800
tired out from the previous
day's activities and he's like,

1190
01:10:25,800 --> 01:10:28,500
oh give her some wine as a
stimulant but she can't drink it

1191
01:10:28,500 --> 01:10:32,900
because she's so knocked out.
So Jane, it makes a whiskey

1192
01:10:32,900 --> 01:10:37,800
anima with whiskey and water and
more morphia in it and the

1193
01:10:37,808 --> 01:10:39,700
doctor comes back four hours
later.

1194
01:10:39,700 --> 01:10:45,300
And She's worse.
He's like trying to wake her up

1195
01:10:45,300 --> 01:10:49,900
himself, then he calls another
doctor then he calls Minnie's.

1196
01:10:49,900 --> 01:10:55,400
Father-in-law.
As her husband was away and see,

1197
01:10:55,700 --> 01:10:57,300
they try all these different
concoctions.

1198
01:10:57,300 --> 01:11:01,500
But for 10 p.m. on August 14th,
mini Gibbs dies at 39 years old.

1199
01:11:01,800 --> 01:11:04,800
They're like, it was exhaustion
August 19th.

1200
01:11:04,800 --> 01:11:09,200
The local paper reads.
Four members of a cape Family

1201
01:11:09,200 --> 01:11:13,600
died in a period of six weeks.
Six weeks.

1202
01:11:14,100 --> 01:11:16,600
Brittany.
That's only a freaking like

1203
01:11:16,600 --> 01:11:18,600
month.
I haven't even lived in this new

1204
01:11:18,600 --> 01:11:21,600
place this weekend.
What the hell?

1205
01:11:22,600 --> 01:11:29,700
Yeah, okay yeah I know it's lat
and the only person who's the

1206
01:11:29,700 --> 01:11:37,200
specs Jane is Captain Paul give
father-in-law and he At first,

1207
01:11:37,200 --> 01:11:38,500
he doesn't want to think this
way.

1208
01:11:39,500 --> 01:11:45,600
Think think that way he was
like, he had seen Jane give many

1209
01:11:45,600 --> 01:11:49,700
this injection.
And she's like, oh, I'm doing

1210
01:11:49,700 --> 01:11:52,900
what the doctor said and he's
just like, I don't know.

1211
01:11:53,500 --> 01:11:55,800
He's like, I'm not sure what to
tell she's respected in Cape,

1212
01:11:55,800 --> 01:11:58,900
Cod.
And Cambridge minis, husband

1213
01:11:58,900 --> 01:12:04,300
docks, and he ends up giving
gene pool. 10p as a, thank you

1214
01:12:04,300 --> 01:12:06,700
for caring for his wife and her
last hours.

1215
01:12:08,600 --> 01:12:12,600
Jason, Statham town with this
diluted idea that Captain gives

1216
01:12:12,600 --> 01:12:14,600
going to meet her and like fall
in love with her.

1217
01:12:17,200 --> 01:12:19,000
Right?
But, he's heartbroken.

1218
01:12:19,200 --> 01:12:22,000
And he has a 10-year old son.
He has to care for now.

1219
01:12:22,300 --> 01:12:24,700
So he leaves immediately and
Jane Leeves too.

1220
01:12:27,000 --> 01:12:30,700
Well, so Jane Leeves to being
kind of remembers, I guess that

1221
01:12:30,700 --> 01:12:34,200
or mole is still alive and she's
like, well, he's my potential

1222
01:12:34,200 --> 01:12:39,000
future husband, my mind.
Yeah.

1223
01:12:39,000 --> 01:12:41,200
And so, she's pretty sure.
She'll have him all to herself

1224
01:12:41,200 --> 01:12:44,900
when she shows up at the end of
August in 1901, but when she

1225
01:12:44,900 --> 01:12:48,300
arrives, there's a 70 year old
Widow, there named Edna would.

1226
01:12:48,400 --> 01:12:51,900
And the banister sitting in the
Parlor, and Anna have wanted to

1227
01:12:51,907 --> 01:12:54,300
take a trip across America
because of her heart.

1228
01:12:54,300 --> 01:12:57,300
She hadn't gotten very far.
She's like I've never mind.

1229
01:12:57,300 --> 01:13:00,800
I'll go visit my brother.
So, Jane walks in, and she's

1230
01:13:00,800 --> 01:13:03,100
polite, and they kind of spend
that weekend hanging out

1231
01:13:03,100 --> 01:13:05,600
together.
They have lunch that following

1232
01:13:05,600 --> 01:13:09,000
Monday, August 26, and it gets
dizzy.

1233
01:13:09,400 --> 01:13:13,100
She went to lie down and despite
saying she felt better Jean.

1234
01:13:13,100 --> 01:13:18,500
Insisted on giving her some
mineral water that night and the

1235
01:13:18,500 --> 01:13:21,200
slips into a coma.
Dr. Williams Bass, the same

1236
01:13:21,200 --> 01:13:23,700
Doctor Who had assisted with
Florence's murder the year

1237
01:13:23,700 --> 01:13:28,500
before showed up and tries his
best to revive her anodized on

1238
01:13:28,500 --> 01:13:32,700
August 27. 1901 the last of the
murders.

1239
01:13:33,600 --> 01:13:35,900
Now, while Jane is kill a
normal.

1240
01:13:35,900 --> 01:13:39,800
Back in Cape, Cod people are
talking a Doctor by the name of

1241
01:13:39,800 --> 01:13:41,600
Aira.
Cushing had seen Alden the day,

1242
01:13:41,600 --> 01:13:45,200
he went to Boston to Lodge that
complaint and he was like, Alden

1243
01:13:45,200 --> 01:13:48,900
seemed perfectly fine.
And so is many and Ira was like,

1244
01:13:48,900 --> 01:13:51,700
I need to talk to somebody.
So, I are goes to a mutual

1245
01:13:51,700 --> 01:13:54,000
friend of Captain Gibbs.
Need Ed Robeson.

1246
01:13:54,000 --> 01:13:56,900
He's like, listen, this is weird
and I know your captain gives

1247
01:13:56,900 --> 01:13:59,200
friend and it's my professional
opinion that we should.

1248
01:13:59,400 --> 01:14:02,600
Look into this.
And so Ed is like bet and goes

1249
01:14:02,600 --> 01:14:05,900
to Captain Gibbs and Captain
Gibbs is like finally somebody

1250
01:14:05,900 --> 01:14:09,900
else thinks this too.
So then he goes and contacts

1251
01:14:09,900 --> 01:14:11,500
again.
And man named Leonard Wood.

1252
01:14:11,500 --> 01:14:14,200
Leonard Wood was a Harvard
Medical School trained Doctor

1253
01:14:14,200 --> 01:14:16,000
Who had been an assistant
surgeon in the Army.

1254
01:14:16,000 --> 01:14:20,900
Who served alongside future
president Teddy, Roosevelt TR as

1255
01:14:20,900 --> 01:14:24,500
he called him spoke
exceptionally highly of him now.

1256
01:14:24,500 --> 01:14:27,000
Letter was still in the military
but he was actually home this

1257
01:14:27,000 --> 01:14:29,900
summer for a small reprieve
before he was set to Go back to

1258
01:14:29,900 --> 01:14:32,500
Cuba.
And when Leonard heard about all

1259
01:14:32,500 --> 01:14:35,400
these strange things, like many
waking up from her coma and

1260
01:14:35,400 --> 01:14:39,500
looking scared at Jane and the
strange syringe of liquid.

1261
01:14:39,500 --> 01:14:42,400
He contacts a former teacher
from Harvard dr.

1262
01:14:42,400 --> 01:14:46,600
Edward would no relation and dr.
Wood is a specialist in medical

1263
01:14:46,600 --> 01:14:49,500
chemistry and toxicology, 15
years.

1264
01:14:49,500 --> 01:14:53,100
Prior doctor would had been
called to help with the arrest

1265
01:14:53,100 --> 01:14:56,700
of the American bhujbal
poisoner, Sarah, and James Jane

1266
01:14:56,700 --> 01:14:59,300
Robinson.
He had been the one to determine

1267
01:14:59,400 --> 01:15:03,700
and that her son had been given
arsenic, Something like this is

1268
01:15:03,700 --> 01:15:06,000
so weirdly twisted up with this
prior case.

1269
01:15:06,000 --> 01:15:07,500
Yeah.
So when dr.

1270
01:15:07,500 --> 01:15:12,400
Wick comes in and the police
take notice they open an

1271
01:15:12,400 --> 01:15:14,500
investigation.
The detective on the case with

1272
01:15:14,500 --> 01:15:17,600
Joseph is Whitney and the
district attorney Lemuel homes

1273
01:15:17,600 --> 01:15:19,300
ordered that many engine of his
body.

1274
01:15:19,300 --> 01:15:22,600
Be exhumed Jane is none.
The wiser until the Boston

1275
01:15:22,600 --> 01:15:26,500
Globe, publishes a piece on
August. 31st in Korea is under

1276
01:15:26,500 --> 01:15:31,300
way investigation of deaths of
comma caught him at family, AP

1277
01:15:31,300 --> 01:15:34,900
Davis wife.
And daughters died suddenly this

1278
01:15:35,400 --> 01:15:37,700
article came out the same day
that dr.

1279
01:15:37,700 --> 01:15:40,000
Robert fonts the medical
examiner, dr.

1280
01:15:40,000 --> 01:15:42,800
Wood dr.
Leonard ladder the davises

1281
01:15:42,800 --> 01:15:46,300
doctor and revered mr.
Dicking of the local church.

1282
01:15:46,800 --> 01:15:50,900
I guess he was called because to
maintain the the, you know, I

1283
01:15:50,900 --> 01:15:54,800
guess to not desecrate the body
because at the time it was just

1284
01:15:54,800 --> 01:15:58,500
called a dissection which is a
little weird but they in

1285
01:15:58,500 --> 01:16:02,000
removed, several of the woman's
internal organs took them to

1286
01:16:02,100 --> 01:16:04,900
Sherwood's laboratory in
Cambridge and then the bodies

1287
01:16:04,900 --> 01:16:08,500
were reinterred.
It all went silent for a few

1288
01:16:08,500 --> 01:16:10,500
weeks.
First, it was because they were

1289
01:16:10,500 --> 01:16:13,600
waiting for results.
And then President McKinley was

1290
01:16:13,600 --> 01:16:17,000
assassinated on September 14th
and the Press devoted all

1291
01:16:17,000 --> 01:16:22,800
available time to that his life
Legacy assassination but didn't

1292
01:16:22,800 --> 01:16:24,500
mean the investigation stopped
though.

1293
01:16:24,700 --> 01:16:29,300
See when that first article came
out, a detective named John S

1294
01:16:29,300 --> 01:16:32,000
Patterson was put on detail,
too.

1295
01:16:32,200 --> 01:16:34,900
Watch her.
And so he followed her from

1296
01:16:34,900 --> 01:16:40,300
Cape, Cod, to a visit with Harry
Gordon, senior, to a trip to

1297
01:16:40,300 --> 01:16:44,100
Lowell where normal sister died.
And he as he's watching her

1298
01:16:44,100 --> 01:16:48,000
Jana's becoming more and more
erratic after killing his

1299
01:16:48,000 --> 01:16:51,200
sister, Jane sort of moved in
with him and he's like, I'm

1300
01:16:51,200 --> 01:16:53,600
going to take care of the house.
I'm going to show Armel.

1301
01:16:53,600 --> 01:16:56,200
How good of a wife?
I am a normal is just like,

1302
01:16:56,200 --> 01:16:58,200
thank you for the help but I
don't want you as a wife

1303
01:16:58,200 --> 01:17:01,300
housekeeper or a wife.
So she poisoned his tea with

1304
01:17:01,300 --> 01:17:04,900
morphia Just enough to make him
sick so she could nurse him back

1305
01:17:04,900 --> 01:17:08,800
to health and she's like, now
he'll see a great wife, he

1306
01:17:08,800 --> 01:17:10,700
doesn't care.
He's like, okay, it's time for

1307
01:17:10,700 --> 01:17:12,200
you to go.
Thanks for your help.

1308
01:17:13,200 --> 01:17:15,600
So James feels rejected and
betrayed.

1309
01:17:15,700 --> 01:17:17,400
She's like, I'm doing so much
for this man.

1310
01:17:17,600 --> 01:17:21,900
So she threatens him saying, I'm
gonna tell your friends that I'm

1311
01:17:21,900 --> 01:17:30,100
pregnant and you're the father.
Or most like enough leave.

1312
01:17:30,700 --> 01:17:34,100
And so on that same day,
September 29th, she overdoses on

1313
01:17:34,100 --> 01:17:37,400
morphine, he finds her passed
out, call the doctor, the doctor

1314
01:17:37,400 --> 01:17:40,100
gives her an emetic, which
causes her to vomit.

1315
01:17:40,600 --> 01:17:46,900
They get her a nurse and Jane
convinces the nurse We're going

1316
01:17:46,900 --> 01:17:48,700
to pause the dog is like
spazzing out.

1317
01:17:50,100 --> 01:17:52,000
It's gonna hit that stop button.
Yep.

1318
01:17:52,900 --> 01:17:54,200
Thank you.
Of course.

1319
01:17:56,800 --> 01:18:02,500
So they give Jane a nurse like
her own nurse and she convinces

1320
01:18:02,500 --> 01:18:06,900
that lady too.
That she feels good again.

1321
01:18:07,200 --> 01:18:09,300
And so the nurse is like, oh,
I'm gonna go downstairs and make

1322
01:18:09,300 --> 01:18:11,600
you breakfast.
As soon as the nurse is, going

1323
01:18:11,600 --> 01:18:14,700
to get her breakfast.
Jane tries to kill herself again

1324
01:18:15,000 --> 01:18:17,800
and they try and force them,
Medic in her mouth.

1325
01:18:18,300 --> 01:18:20,400
The doctor shows up.
And when he sees that she's not

1326
01:18:20,400 --> 01:18:23,500
swallowing, he just gives her an
injection of something called

1327
01:18:23,500 --> 01:18:26,200
apomorphine.
And she vomits immediately.

1328
01:18:27,400 --> 01:18:29,100
When asked why she tried to kill
herself, the doc.

1329
01:18:29,100 --> 01:18:30,900
She tells the doctor I'm tired
of life.

1330
01:18:31,000 --> 01:18:32,600
I know people are talking about
me.

1331
01:18:32,900 --> 01:18:36,500
I just want to die.
I don't think she gave herself a

1332
01:18:36,508 --> 01:18:38,100
lethal dose.
I think she's still trying to

1333
01:18:38,100 --> 01:18:41,800
get sympathy from normal as soon
as he's healthy, he's like, all

1334
01:18:41,800 --> 01:18:48,400
right, time to go now.
So the detective follows her as

1335
01:18:48,400 --> 01:18:51,600
she goes up to Amherst.
New Hampshire to visit her

1336
01:18:51,600 --> 01:18:53,600
friends and she has this like
whole week.

1337
01:18:53,600 --> 01:18:55,900
It's like a whole couple weeks
of fun trip.

1338
01:18:55,900 --> 01:18:58,300
She talks about in her writing.
Oh, it was such a good time.

1339
01:18:58,300 --> 01:19:02,200
There were so many people.
And so October 29th, when the

1340
01:19:02,200 --> 01:19:05,800
detective, and two other police
officers, show up to get her.

1341
01:19:06,900 --> 01:19:09,800
And her friends are very
confused and James, like, okay,

1342
01:19:09,800 --> 01:19:12,900
I'll come with you.
But she later tells the police

1343
01:19:12,900 --> 01:19:15,500
that she absolutely was going to
kill both George and

1344
01:19:15,500 --> 01:19:17,300
sarah.nicholls just for the hell
of it.

1345
01:19:19,100 --> 01:19:22,400
The second she's arrested Jane
is big news and they're all

1346
01:19:22,400 --> 01:19:24,600
these articles across the
Northeast about her.

1347
01:19:24,800 --> 01:19:27,000
They're like the most
extraordinary killer in the

1348
01:19:27,000 --> 01:19:30,300
annals of human crime and James
like I'm innocent.

1349
01:19:30,300 --> 01:19:32,700
I have no idea what you're
talking about so they take her,

1350
01:19:32,700 --> 01:19:35,200
she has her arraignment on the
31st and they're like, what do

1351
01:19:35,200 --> 01:19:37,400
you plead?
She's like not guilty, she tells

1352
01:19:37,400 --> 01:19:40,100
the press the same thing.
They're like, oh she's so nice

1353
01:19:40,100 --> 01:19:43,800
and sweet and stoic.
Anybody and everyone who was

1354
01:19:43,800 --> 01:19:47,400
connected to Jane and some way
they chase down from landlords

1355
01:19:47,400 --> 01:19:50,100
to clients to church, people who
knew her, when she was a child,

1356
01:19:50,100 --> 01:19:53,700
the the press to Deuce that like
she must be like a morphine

1357
01:19:53,700 --> 01:19:55,800
addict because she seems so
nice.

1358
01:19:55,800 --> 01:20:00,800
Like, what could have possibly
caused her to do this. the day

1359
01:20:00,800 --> 01:20:03,400
Miss Family, Doctor Who would
actually missed the clues diet

1360
01:20:03,400 --> 01:20:07,100
10 days before Jane was arrested
and so James, listen, I'll

1361
01:20:07,100 --> 01:20:10,300
explain everything that I did
for the family, like, you know,

1362
01:20:11,400 --> 01:20:15,600
doctor ladder would have been
able to tell you more, but The

1363
01:20:15,900 --> 01:20:18,000
police are sure.
She was just like women of the

1364
01:20:18,000 --> 01:20:20,900
past who used Arsenic and they
try to find a record of her

1365
01:20:20,900 --> 01:20:24,500
buying any, but there is it
because that's not what she did.

1366
01:20:24,600 --> 01:20:27,800
See, Professor would was an
expert on arsenic poisoning.

1367
01:20:28,200 --> 01:20:30,700
He had create he made an
assumption that ended up being

1368
01:20:30,700 --> 01:20:35,900
correct, but with the wrong
method, Captain Gibbs told the

1369
01:20:35,900 --> 01:20:41,100
Press how she came onto him
after his wife died and then the

1370
01:20:41,100 --> 01:20:44,200
reporters turned on her.
Saying that she was, she killed

1371
01:20:44,200 --> 01:20:47,000
her friend for money and
marriage.

1372
01:20:48,500 --> 01:20:51,100
The presumption is really went
on as the state.

1373
01:20:51,800 --> 01:20:55,300
I tried to build a case against
her and she remained quiet and

1374
01:20:55,300 --> 01:20:58,100
the state decided to send a
couple doctors in to talk to

1375
01:20:58,100 --> 01:21:00,600
Jane on.
March 20th it do to dr.

1376
01:21:00,600 --> 01:21:05,400
George F.
Jelly, and Jela and Hosea and

1377
01:21:05,400 --> 01:21:07,400
Quinn became the Barnstable jail
to speak.

1378
01:21:07,400 --> 01:21:10,900
To her Jane is immediately
suspicious but she does launch

1379
01:21:10,900 --> 01:21:14,300
into her bizarre life story and
she maintains her innocence and

1380
01:21:14,300 --> 01:21:18,100
her personality but the doctors
are like she's a pathological

1381
01:21:18,100 --> 01:21:21,700
liar.
And she denies murder.

1382
01:21:22,500 --> 01:21:24,900
And finally, she's like, yeah, I
killed like 12 people.

1383
01:21:25,200 --> 01:21:29,200
And I like setting fires and she
begins detailing this, and they

1384
01:21:29,200 --> 01:21:31,300
just let her talk, it's all
measured.

1385
01:21:31,300 --> 01:21:34,500
No grief, no sorrow.
She told her poisoning was a

1386
01:21:34,500 --> 01:21:37,800
habit of her life and they begin
looking into her real life.

1387
01:21:39,500 --> 01:21:44,000
And so this is what the doctors
come to a consensus about Jane's

1388
01:21:44,000 --> 01:21:46,800
mental state.
So they say one, the president

1389
01:21:46,800 --> 01:21:50,000
Jane top incomes of a family in
which intemperance and mental

1390
01:21:50,000 --> 01:21:54,400
weakness in our disorders are
prominent in her family to her,

1391
01:21:54,400 --> 01:21:56,900
utter lack of moral sense.
Has been evident from childhood

1392
01:21:56,900 --> 01:22:00,200
and her incorrigible proclivity
to falsehood dishonesty

1393
01:22:00,400 --> 01:22:03,600
mischief-making, General,
unreliability, and probable

1394
01:22:03,600 --> 01:22:06,600
theft the good moral mental and
religious training, which she

1395
01:22:06,600 --> 01:22:08,900
received in her youth resulted
in no modification.

1396
01:22:09,000 --> 01:22:11,800
Of her character and we're
practically thrown away on her.

1397
01:22:11,800 --> 01:22:15,400
In that respect three.
Her moral insensibility is

1398
01:22:15,400 --> 01:22:18,400
further apparent in the absence
of sense of fear before during

1399
01:22:18,400 --> 01:22:21,500
her after the commission of the
crime and of reports sorrow or

1400
01:22:21,500 --> 01:22:24,400
Genuine affection at any time,
this defect is even more

1401
01:22:24,400 --> 01:22:27,400
forcibly shown by the fact that
her Chief victims were her

1402
01:22:27,400 --> 01:22:33,100
friends for her lack of any
appreciation of her situation,

1403
01:22:33,400 --> 01:22:35,800
her levity, under some
circumstances and her inability

1404
01:22:35,800 --> 01:22:39,700
to realize the enormity of these
Deeds are strong It's of mental

1405
01:22:39,700 --> 01:22:43,900
weakness has five that
irresistible propensity

1406
01:22:43,900 --> 01:22:46,300
propelled, her to crimes of
arson and murder is shown by the

1407
01:22:46,300 --> 01:22:51,700
great frequency and variety of
such acts and her Continuum

1408
01:22:52,200 --> 01:22:54,500
continuance in them regardless
of consequences.

1409
01:22:54,700 --> 01:22:56,600
I'm sorry they wrote very right
old-timey.

1410
01:22:56,600 --> 01:23:00,700
Y'all sex.
There's an absence of any

1411
01:23:00,700 --> 01:23:04,700
apparent motive for her crimes,
in some cases and inadequacy of

1412
01:23:04,700 --> 01:23:08,500
motives and any others, this is
shown and total lack of

1413
01:23:08,500 --> 01:23:11,000
evidence.
It's of pecuniary gain or

1414
01:23:11,000 --> 01:23:15,400
satisfaction in Revenge as a
rule except for minor thefts or

1415
01:23:15,400 --> 01:23:18,600
transient Amity.
So essentially like she would

1416
01:23:18,600 --> 01:23:24,400
like steel to get back at people
but they're like the murders not

1417
01:23:24,400 --> 01:23:29,200
making sense here.
They're like a sane criminal has

1418
01:23:29,400 --> 01:23:34,100
incentive to kill people, The
Prisoner, and then seven, the

1419
01:23:34,100 --> 01:23:36,400
prisoners disease, history and
present, mental state,

1420
01:23:36,400 --> 01:23:40,300
correspond with well-recognized
forms of, mental disease of

1421
01:23:40,300 --> 01:23:45,000
moral type due to congenital
degeneration of which there may

1422
01:23:45,000 --> 01:23:47,200
be little, or no intellectual
disturbance.

1423
01:23:47,900 --> 01:23:49,900
So essentially, they think
there's something wrong with her

1424
01:23:49,900 --> 01:23:53,800
brain, but it's not like she's
losing her faculties, the

1425
01:23:53,800 --> 01:23:56,200
doctors are like we're good,
she's insane.

1426
01:23:56,500 --> 01:23:59,000
And the New York Journal Prince,
a confession to Jane's lawyer.

1427
01:23:59,000 --> 01:24:01,800
Where she said she was saying
that she killed 31 people and

1428
01:24:01,800 --> 01:24:03,900
she wanted to be seen as seen in
courts that she might get out of

1429
01:24:03,900 --> 01:24:07,300
prison one day.
Well, here's the thing I changed

1430
01:24:07,300 --> 01:24:08,600
trial.
She still insists?

1431
01:24:08,600 --> 01:24:11,600
She's saying saying she knew she
was doing wrong and she's aware

1432
01:24:11,600 --> 01:24:13,300
of it.
She told the police that she

1433
01:24:13,300 --> 01:24:16,300
gained sexual satisfaction from
killing and how she stroked them

1434
01:24:16,300 --> 01:24:20,600
and kissed on them, did not
matter, they were hell-bent on

1435
01:24:20,600 --> 01:24:24,000
saying that she was insane.
So the trial begins June 23rd,

1436
01:24:24,000 --> 01:24:27,700
1902 Jane's court-appointed
Ernie does exactly what he plans

1437
01:24:27,700 --> 01:24:29,900
to do crew of Not Guilty by
insanity.

1438
01:24:30,200 --> 01:24:35,300
This trial did not even last one
day, they write her confession

1439
01:24:35,600 --> 01:24:38,600
members of the Davis Family
corroborated her statement and

1440
01:24:38,600 --> 01:24:40,800
at 5:12 p.m. they found her Not
Guilty.

1441
01:24:40,800 --> 01:24:43,800
By reason of insanity and a
judge sentenced heard of natural

1442
01:24:43,800 --> 01:24:47,900
life in the Taunton.
Insane Hospital only person in

1443
01:24:47,900 --> 01:24:50,800
the room who smiled was Jane.
She left the hot courtroom

1444
01:24:50,800 --> 01:24:54,700
happy.
Seems like a done deal but then

1445
01:24:54,700 --> 01:24:56,900
Jane tells her lawyers.
Well, this isn't the only

1446
01:24:56,900 --> 01:25:00,200
killing I've ever done.
And he's like, what?

1447
01:25:00,700 --> 01:25:02,800
And she's like, well, I've been
poisoning people ever since I

1448
01:25:02,800 --> 01:25:05,800
was a nursing student because
like, I'm sure I killed a lot

1449
01:25:05,800 --> 01:25:08,300
more than 31 people but like, I
don't know.

1450
01:25:09,300 --> 01:25:11,800
Like what?
So there was this doctor who is

1451
01:25:11,800 --> 01:25:15,200
preparing like a psychological
evaluation of her for a journal,

1452
01:25:15,400 --> 01:25:18,200
and he like the lawyers, like he
tells that guy and he's like,

1453
01:25:18,200 --> 01:25:21,800
what do we do about this?
And the doctors, like I'm going

1454
01:25:21,800 --> 01:25:25,700
to go to the hospitals to learn
more about her on June 24th.

1455
01:25:25,700 --> 01:25:29,000
The Boston Globe, labels, Jane,
the greatest criminal in

1456
01:25:29,000 --> 01:25:33,400
history, the Boston Travelers
called her, the most horrible

1457
01:25:33,400 --> 01:25:36,700
case of degeneracy.
The world has ever known.

1458
01:25:38,300 --> 01:25:41,400
They do believe that James will
may have killed an excess of 100

1459
01:25:41,400 --> 01:25:43,200
plus people, but we'll never
really know for sure.

1460
01:25:43,500 --> 01:25:45,500
And she did go down in history
as being one of the more

1461
01:25:45,500 --> 01:25:50,500
prolific, poisoners up her day
and ours, Jane gave a full, a

1462
01:25:50,500 --> 01:25:52,700
more chilling, confession to the
press that I'm going to read

1463
01:25:52,700 --> 01:25:56,100
parts of it for you.
So she says I was advised to

1464
01:25:56,100 --> 01:25:59,400
confess and plead guilty to the
murder of the 31 persons, who am

1465
01:25:59,400 --> 01:26:02,200
I have sent out of this world by
poisoning but I thought of a

1466
01:26:02,200 --> 01:26:05,200
better way than that when the
famous and Sydney Experts of

1467
01:26:05,200 --> 01:26:07,200
Boston, dr.
Henry Steadman, dr.

1468
01:26:07,200 --> 01:26:11,000
George Judge F jelly and dr.
Hosea Quimby came to the

1469
01:26:11,000 --> 01:26:12,800
Barnstable jail to see if I was
insane.

1470
01:26:13,100 --> 01:26:16,000
I knew how to fool them.
I have been a trained nurse for

1471
01:26:16,000 --> 01:26:19,600
15 years, and I know doctors and
just how to manage them.

1472
01:26:20,000 --> 01:26:22,500
I know that people who are
really insane will always deny

1473
01:26:22,500 --> 01:26:24,900
it.
So I said to the alienists, I am

1474
01:26:24,900 --> 01:26:27,100
not insane.
I knew I could fool them if I

1475
01:26:27,100 --> 01:26:30,400
wanted to and make myself out
insane, doctor jelly, and the

1476
01:26:30,400 --> 01:26:33,300
others Reiki with hard
questions, they tried to play on

1477
01:26:33,300 --> 01:26:35,500
my women.
Sympathy and asked me if I

1478
01:26:35,508 --> 01:26:37,400
didn't think it was a terrible
thing to take those.

1479
01:26:37,600 --> 01:26:39,400
Others mrs.
Gibbs and mrs.

1480
01:26:39,400 --> 01:26:42,300
Gordon away from their young
children, but I knew that game

1481
01:26:42,300 --> 01:26:44,900
and I said, I just up and killed
them and I don't know why.

1482
01:26:45,500 --> 01:26:48,400
When I said that, I killed four
people on 51 days and set Three

1483
01:26:48,400 --> 01:26:50,800
Fires.
They said, why Jane you must

1484
01:26:50,800 --> 01:26:53,700
have been insane to have such a
thing but I insisted.

1485
01:26:53,700 --> 01:26:56,600
I was not insane and I did not
want them to make me out insane.

1486
01:26:56,800 --> 01:26:58,600
And they went away and gave
their verdict.

1487
01:26:58,600 --> 01:27:01,000
That I was in saying, which is
exactly what I wanted.

1488
01:27:01,200 --> 01:27:03,000
I was too smart for the whole of
them.

1489
01:27:03,400 --> 01:27:07,400
I have the most spunk and grit
of any person living, but I

1490
01:27:07,500 --> 01:27:09,800
Haven't told exactly how I
poison these people.

1491
01:27:09,800 --> 01:27:13,300
It was with morphea mostly and
sometimes atrophy at Murphy and

1492
01:27:13,300 --> 01:27:16,000
@u P a week in the hearts
conditions and leave very little

1493
01:27:16,000 --> 01:27:18,500
Trace behind for a doctor or
chemists exact.

1494
01:27:18,700 --> 01:27:21,700
They are vegetable places and
unlike Arsenic and other mineral

1495
01:27:21,700 --> 01:27:25,100
poisons which are easily
detectable by using morphia and

1496
01:27:25,100 --> 01:27:27,100
attribute on.
Many Gibbs was what.

1497
01:27:27,100 --> 01:27:31,100
So puzzled Professor would the
famous chemist of Harvard

1498
01:27:31,100 --> 01:27:34,500
University, he could find some
traces of morphia and the parts

1499
01:27:34,500 --> 01:27:36,800
of the body he was examining,
but there were some

1500
01:27:36,800 --> 01:27:39,700
complications He was utterly at
a loss to explain.

1501
01:27:40,200 --> 01:27:42,800
It was not until I confessed
that I use at rupiah.

1502
01:27:43,000 --> 01:27:47,200
That Professor would was able to
apply the test to make sure of

1503
01:27:47,200 --> 01:27:51,400
his analysis, if my poison.
So could so fool, a great

1504
01:27:51,400 --> 01:27:54,800
physician and chemists like
doctor would, you can see how

1505
01:27:54,800 --> 01:27:58,400
much easier it was to deceive
General Practitioners, this is

1506
01:27:58,400 --> 01:28:00,100
how it happens.
That Physicians have given

1507
01:28:00,100 --> 01:28:04,500
certificates for heart disease,
diabetes, fatty degeneration of

1508
01:28:04,500 --> 01:28:07,400
the heart prostration, anemia
and the cases.

1509
01:28:07,500 --> 01:28:10,200
Of all the people.
I've killed almost any person in

1510
01:28:10,200 --> 01:28:13,100
middle life when dosed with
hunyadi and Yadi water.

1511
01:28:13,100 --> 01:28:16,100
And drugged with more Fianna
tropea will show a symptom of

1512
01:28:16,100 --> 01:28:20,100
those diseases soon after I
became a nurse 15 years ago,

1513
01:28:20,100 --> 01:28:23,300
when I was about 30 years old,
it came into my head, I don't

1514
01:28:23,300 --> 01:28:26,400
know how that I could kill
people just as easy as not with

1515
01:28:26,400 --> 01:28:30,000
very medicine that the doctors
give their patients after I

1516
01:28:30,008 --> 01:28:32,400
tried it in a few cases and it
worked well and they didn't

1517
01:28:32,400 --> 01:28:35,000
suspect me.
I thought how easily I could put

1518
01:28:35,000 --> 01:28:36,600
people out of the way that I
wanted to.

1519
01:28:37,300 --> 01:28:39,400
My first victims, were hospital
patients.

1520
01:28:39,600 --> 01:28:41,000
I experimenting on them with?
What?

1521
01:28:41,000 --> 01:28:43,300
The doctors call, a scientific
interest.

1522
01:28:43,900 --> 01:28:46,300
I can't repeat the names of
those cases because I never knew

1523
01:28:46,300 --> 01:28:48,100
them.
They just went by numbers in the

1524
01:28:48,100 --> 01:28:48,800
hospital.
Ward.

1525
01:28:48,800 --> 01:28:51,600
Anyway, that was when I was at
Cambridge hospital.

1526
01:28:51,800 --> 01:28:54,300
Perhaps it was a dozen people.
I experimented on in this way,

1527
01:28:54,800 --> 01:28:56,800
but you mustn't think I killed
all the patients and in my care

1528
01:28:56,800 --> 01:29:00,000
in the hospital.
I nursed back to health, several

1529
01:29:00,000 --> 01:29:03,800
bad cases, of typhoid fever, one
of the physicians at the

1530
01:29:03,808 --> 01:29:06,500
hospital, suspected me, but he
dared not accuse me of

1531
01:29:06,500 --> 01:29:09,300
poisoning.
So I was simply discharged, I

1532
01:29:09,300 --> 01:29:11,900
didn't care about that because
I'm as made up my mind that I

1533
01:29:11,900 --> 01:29:14,000
could make more money and have
an easier time.

1534
01:29:14,000 --> 01:29:17,400
Going out by the day, in the
families, people say I have no

1535
01:29:17,400 --> 01:29:20,700
heart but I do when I've been in
jail, a friend and loyal sent me

1536
01:29:20,700 --> 01:29:23,900
some forget-me-nots and I cried,
they were the flowers that my

1537
01:29:23,900 --> 01:29:26,200
first lover used to send me.
When I was a schoolgirl.

1538
01:29:26,800 --> 01:29:29,500
I'm a forget-me-not was engraved
on that precious engagement

1539
01:29:29,500 --> 01:29:31,600
ring.
I thought it was a bird but

1540
01:29:31,600 --> 01:29:35,100
whatever.
I will never tell my girlhood

1541
01:29:35,100 --> 01:29:37,500
lover's name that it was still
sacred to me, even though he

1542
01:29:37,500 --> 01:29:39,900
went back on me.
And it seemed that my whole

1543
01:29:39,900 --> 01:29:41,900
light-hearted nature changed
after that.

1544
01:29:42,200 --> 01:29:45,100
I still laughed and was Jolly,
but I learned how to hate to.

1545
01:29:45,600 --> 01:29:48,000
If I had been a married woman, I
probably would have not killed

1546
01:29:48,000 --> 01:29:50,100
all these people.
I would have had a husband, my

1547
01:29:50,100 --> 01:29:51,800
children in my home to take up
my mind.

1548
01:29:52,600 --> 01:29:56,500
Like all Psychopaths though,
Jane was only capable of really

1549
01:29:56,500 --> 01:29:59,300
feeling sorry for herself and
pretty much at the end of this

1550
01:29:59,300 --> 01:30:02,000
confession.
She says, I could have worked

1551
01:30:02,000 --> 01:30:05,600
for years longer at If I hadn't
killed four people in one family

1552
01:30:05,600 --> 01:30:11,600
almost all at once that was the
greatest mistake of my life and

1553
01:30:11,600 --> 01:30:14,200
then she says that she deserves
to be punished for all these

1554
01:30:14,200 --> 01:30:18,200
murders.
And she says, I've made up my

1555
01:30:18,200 --> 01:30:21,700
mind to being sent to an insane
asylum but I have hopes of

1556
01:30:21,700 --> 01:30:24,800
getting out in 10 or 15 years
when my doctors say that I'm

1557
01:30:24,800 --> 01:30:28,100
cured of insanity.
Well, Jay never got what she

1558
01:30:28,100 --> 01:30:31,500
wanted.
We're she was never released and

1559
01:30:31,500 --> 01:30:37,100
she died in prison, correction a
facility. 34 years later she got

1560
01:30:37,100 --> 01:30:40,200
sick on July 1st 1938.
She was stuck bedroom for a

1561
01:30:40,208 --> 01:30:41,900
month.
She died on August 17th.

1562
01:30:41,900 --> 01:30:45,900
At 18 at 81 years old from
bronchopneumonia with chronic

1563
01:30:45,900 --> 01:30:48,100
myocarditis as a contributing
factor.

1564
01:30:48,100 --> 01:30:50,500
So she had pneumonia and also
heart issues.

1565
01:30:51,200 --> 01:30:53,900
She spent all her time in
prison, reading romance novels

1566
01:30:53,900 --> 01:30:56,200
writing her own strange books,
and making jokes.

1567
01:30:56,300 --> 01:31:00,200
Jokes with the other nurses
about killing patients with

1568
01:31:00,200 --> 01:31:04,200
morphine.
Just such a funny topic.

1569
01:31:04,200 --> 01:31:05,900
Oh my God, I'm sure they loved
it.

1570
01:31:05,900 --> 01:31:08,100
She would literally like be
like, if somebody was like a

1571
01:31:08,100 --> 01:31:11,100
pain, she'd be like, yeah, let's
get that morphine and take care

1572
01:31:11,100 --> 01:31:22,200
of them.
I had to pull the confession

1573
01:31:22,200 --> 01:31:25,400
because they never confessed,
their never honest.

1574
01:31:25,600 --> 01:31:30,900
Mhm. anybody make yeah, it's
yeah, they make it sound like

1575
01:31:38,000 --> 01:31:41,300
Harley in pain, right?
Killing people.

1576
01:31:41,300 --> 01:31:43,700
Nope, she was just straight up.
Like yeah, y'all fucking I'm

1577
01:31:43,700 --> 01:31:49,200
smart and I just think they
party hard.

1578
01:31:50,200 --> 01:31:53,400
Mike.
Is it guys at least killed like

1579
01:31:53,400 --> 01:31:56,300
12 at each of these hospitals?
But I don't know.

1580
01:31:56,300 --> 01:31:59,700
They were on numbers.
Weird story, weird lady.

1581
01:32:00,400 --> 01:32:03,400
Yeah, absolutely.
Hopefully with that.

1582
01:32:03,400 --> 01:32:05,900
Jane was a weird one.
But yeah, that's all I got for

1583
01:32:05,900 --> 01:32:09,800
you today.
A little more lighthearted than,

1584
01:32:09,800 --> 01:32:13,000
you know, talking about rape all
the time.

1585
01:32:13,400 --> 01:32:16,000
Yeah absolutely.
I did enjoy this.

1586
01:32:17,100 --> 01:32:21,900
I mean Channel but you know I
just I didn't hate it.

1587
01:32:21,900 --> 01:32:34,400
At least not as much, okay.
Today is the first day of

1588
01:32:34,400 --> 01:32:39,300
October.
The first day of the spooky

1589
01:32:39,300 --> 01:32:47,900
month so I'm going to let you
tell I want to do something a

1590
01:32:47,907 --> 01:32:51,100
little different today.
I got you a tale in and I got

1591
01:32:51,100 --> 01:32:55,100
you a Cryptid so boom boom the
cables, it's short.

1592
01:32:56,300 --> 01:32:59,500
That's why I added a cryptid on
because like that's not going to

1593
01:32:59,500 --> 01:33:03,600
be long enough.
Oh okay well we'll see all right

1594
01:33:05,100 --> 01:33:09,800
so For the beginning of our
favorite favorite month.

1595
01:33:11,500 --> 01:33:15,600
I will be telling y'all the
legend of the jack-o'-lantern.

1596
01:33:16,200 --> 01:33:21,500
Oh, hello became a thing.
Yeah.

1597
01:33:22,300 --> 01:33:25,600
Until I can hear the excitement
in your voice.

1598
01:33:25,600 --> 01:33:27,100
No.
It's one of the things I do

1599
01:33:27,100 --> 01:33:29,300
things that like what come up
with like the kindergarteners at

1600
01:33:29,300 --> 01:33:32,400
school and I'd be like, I don't
know.

1601
01:33:33,100 --> 01:33:36,400
Oh, So now I might have an
answer.

1602
01:33:36,400 --> 01:33:40,000
If the children asked me how
Jacqueline's were created, I

1603
01:33:40,000 --> 01:33:45,100
might have to modify it so it's
not scary but it's yeah.

1604
01:33:45,800 --> 01:33:47,000
Just.
Um, okay.

1605
01:33:47,100 --> 01:33:51,200
So basically this tale comes
from Irish folklore that's

1606
01:33:51,200 --> 01:33:55,000
basically where the legend of
the jack-o'-lantern comes from

1607
01:33:55,400 --> 01:33:59,800
Irish folklore and Irish
immigrants would bring you know,

1608
01:33:59,800 --> 01:34:02,500
they brought the story over to
America.

1609
01:34:02,500 --> 01:34:11,100
So I at first, they started
using turnips and potatoes.

1610
01:34:11,200 --> 01:34:14,700
I did hear about that.
Yes, yes.

1611
01:34:14,800 --> 01:34:18,500
How are those two tiny, they did
it.

1612
01:34:18,500 --> 01:34:23,000
They found a way.
And then once a week, once they

1613
01:34:23,000 --> 01:34:25,800
came to America you know you got
pumpkins now.

1614
01:34:25,800 --> 01:34:28,000
So they're like, let's just
carve these things up.

1615
01:34:28,000 --> 01:34:36,100
Instead they're a lot bigger.
Okay, so this is the tail and

1616
01:34:36,200 --> 01:34:39,300
it's called The Legend of
stinging Jack.

1617
01:34:42,300 --> 01:34:45,500
So people have been making
jack-o'-lanterns at Halloween

1618
01:34:45,500 --> 01:34:48,400
for centuries.
Their Factory is originated from

1619
01:34:48,400 --> 01:34:53,600
an Irish myth about a man named
stinking Jack, according to the

1620
01:34:53,600 --> 01:34:57,500
story, stinging, Jack invited.
The devil to have a drink with

1621
01:34:57,500 --> 01:35:01,700
him, true to his name, singing,
Jack didn't want to pay for his

1622
01:35:01,700 --> 01:35:03,800
drink.
So he convinced the devil to

1623
01:35:03,800 --> 01:35:07,400
turn himself into a coin that
Jack could use to buy their

1624
01:35:07,400 --> 01:35:10,900
drinks.
Once the devil did so Jack

1625
01:35:10,900 --> 01:35:14,400
decided to keep them.
Money and put it in his pocket

1626
01:35:14,400 --> 01:35:18,300
next to us over cross.
Which prevented the devil from

1627
01:35:18,300 --> 01:35:19,900
changing back to his original
form.

1628
01:35:21,700 --> 01:35:23,800
Jack.
Eventually freed, the devil

1629
01:35:24,100 --> 01:35:27,700
under the condition that he
would not bother Jack for one

1630
01:35:27,700 --> 01:35:32,000
year and that gesture Jack died.
He would not claim his soul.

1631
01:35:32,400 --> 01:35:36,600
So, the next year, Jack again,
trick the devil into climbing,

1632
01:35:36,600 --> 01:35:39,300
into a tree, to pick a piece of
fruit.

1633
01:35:40,100 --> 01:35:44,500
Well, he was up in a tree Jack.
Carter is sign of the cross on

1634
01:35:44,500 --> 01:35:48,000
to the trees bark, so that the
devil Could now come down until

1635
01:35:48,000 --> 01:35:51,800
the devil promised Jack, not to
bother him or 10 more years.

1636
01:35:53,200 --> 01:35:58,200
Soon after Jack died, as the
legend goes, God would not allow

1637
01:35:58,200 --> 01:36:00,800
such an unsavory figure in
heaven.

1638
01:36:01,300 --> 01:36:04,500
The devil upset by the trick
jacket played on him.

1639
01:36:05,800 --> 01:36:10,000
And keeping his word not to
claim, his soul would not allow

1640
01:36:10,000 --> 01:36:13,600
Jack into hell.
He sent jack off into the night,

1641
01:36:13,600 --> 01:36:17,800
into the dark night, was only a
burning coal to light his way.

1642
01:36:19,000 --> 01:36:23,500
Jack put the coal into a carved
out turn up and has been roaming

1643
01:36:23,500 --> 01:36:28,000
the Earth ever.
Since the Irish began to refer

1644
01:36:28,000 --> 01:36:33,400
to this ghostly figure as Jack
of the Lantern and then.

1645
01:36:34,100 --> 01:36:42,700
Hmm, you're right.
And this then they certain it to

1646
01:36:42,800 --> 01:36:47,800
jack-o'-lantern.
So in Iran has got one people

1647
01:36:47,800 --> 01:36:51,400
began to make Own versions of
Jack's lanterns by carving.

1648
01:36:51,400 --> 01:36:55,800
Scary faces and turnips, and
potatoes, and placing them into

1649
01:36:55,800 --> 01:36:59,500
Windows or near doors, to
frighten away, stinking Jack and

1650
01:36:59,500 --> 01:37:05,100
other wandering evil spirits in
England, large beats were used

1651
01:37:06,000 --> 01:37:09,100
immigrants from both countries,
brought the jack-o'-lantern

1652
01:37:09,100 --> 01:37:10,800
tradition.
What them when they came to the

1653
01:37:10,800 --> 01:37:14,500
United States?
They soon found that pumpkins a

1654
01:37:14,500 --> 01:37:16,800
fruit native to America.
That's right.

1655
01:37:16,800 --> 01:37:22,200
Pumpkins are fruit.
They discover America, they made

1656
01:37:22,300 --> 01:37:29,200
perfect jack-o'-lanterns much.
So that's yeah, absolutely, my

1657
01:37:29,200 --> 01:37:33,300
whole thing is like, all these
tales about people tricking the

1658
01:37:33,308 --> 01:37:35,100
devil.
I'm like, is the devil really

1659
01:37:35,100 --> 01:37:38,400
that dumb restricted to turn
into a coin or to like climb a

1660
01:37:38,400 --> 01:37:40,100
tree.
So you can get a fruit.

1661
01:37:42,100 --> 01:37:50,800
I'm just like, I don't think so.
But yeah, that's the problem.

1662
01:37:50,900 --> 01:37:55,200
Like, I say, probably not.
So that's the, that's the legend

1663
01:37:55,200 --> 01:37:58,200
of the jack-o'-lantern for our
very first day of October.

1664
01:37:58,900 --> 01:38:02,000
So when you see jack-o'-lanterns
out, when you carve your

1665
01:38:02,000 --> 01:38:06,000
pumpkins this year, just think
of singing Jack and tricking the

1666
01:38:06,000 --> 01:38:08,500
devil into paying for your
drinks.

1667
01:38:10,500 --> 01:38:12,200
I'd probably took a job with me
for my drinks.

1668
01:38:12,200 --> 01:38:14,600
I'd actually want to do that
now.

1669
01:38:16,000 --> 01:38:22,300
Yeah.
Okay, so the Cryptid I have for

1670
01:38:22,300 --> 01:38:30,000
today so I found this list of
Cryptids for October to talk

1671
01:38:30,000 --> 01:38:33,400
about.
So I'm going to start with the

1672
01:38:33,400 --> 01:38:36,400
first one.
That's on the list, which is you

1673
01:38:36,400 --> 01:38:38,800
probably heard of it before.
Let's go Kate.

1674
01:38:38,900 --> 01:38:44,400
Eep and I have not talked about
it, you don't know anything

1675
01:38:44,400 --> 01:38:51,400
about the skunk ape.
Oh Brittany, it's horrible.

1676
01:38:52,000 --> 01:38:56,300
Well, the as a name implies this
going to keep smells really,

1677
01:38:56,300 --> 01:38:58,900
really terrible.
Let's go, Kate is basically

1678
01:38:59,600 --> 01:39:03,400
Bigfoot.
Okay, okay, I'm just going to

1679
01:39:03,407 --> 01:39:06,500
say that it's Bigfoot but not
really.

1680
01:39:06,500 --> 01:39:09,200
I don't tell people in Florida
that because You're going to

1681
01:39:09,208 --> 01:39:14,000
like know we have the skunk ape
so the Skokie, it's a Florida.

1682
01:39:17,700 --> 01:39:22,800
Let me I'll get to that.
So let's go Kate, actually this

1683
01:39:22,800 --> 01:39:25,900
concrete really actually appears
in like all those Southern

1684
01:39:26,000 --> 01:39:31,100
Easterns States.
So you got Texas, Georgia

1685
01:39:31,100 --> 01:39:38,800
Louisiana, but Florida Florida.
They love this country.

1686
01:39:41,700 --> 01:39:45,300
So it has black for glowing red
eyes.

1687
01:39:46,700 --> 01:39:52,100
It's like it's consider Bigfoot,
but it looks a lot like an

1688
01:39:52,100 --> 01:39:56,300
eight, Okay.
And like like I said, based on

1689
01:39:56,300 --> 01:39:59,900
if its name, its smelly hairy
man on that.

1690
01:39:59,900 --> 01:40:08,500
Yeah.
It smells smells so terrible.

1691
01:40:11,800 --> 01:40:13,900
There.
Of course, I've been, sightings

1692
01:40:13,900 --> 01:40:21,800
of set skunk ape, the first two
were in the 60s and 70s.

1693
01:40:25,000 --> 01:40:29,200
There's nothing 70s.
I guess to Palm Beach County.

1694
01:40:29,200 --> 01:40:33,800
Sheriff!
Deputy deputies, Marvin and

1695
01:40:33,800 --> 01:40:35,100
Ernie.
I love the names.

1696
01:40:37,100 --> 01:40:40,900
They said that, you know, they
reported that he saw an ape-like

1697
01:40:40,900 --> 01:40:45,300
creature that stock that's talk
them through the Grove before

1698
01:40:45,300 --> 01:40:47,800
any shot at it.
Of course, like, why would you

1699
01:40:49,100 --> 01:40:52,700
why would you not shoot at you
know something that's just you

1700
01:40:52,700 --> 01:40:55,400
know minding its own business.
I mean probably stalking you

1701
01:40:56,600 --> 01:40:59,900
exactly.
Like it's like this is our

1702
01:40:59,900 --> 01:41:02,000
costumes out.
It could have been just a man

1703
01:41:02,800 --> 01:41:06,300
and he's just trying to trick
you all and play a joke but

1704
01:41:06,300 --> 01:41:08,100
y'all want Try to shoot at.
Okay.

1705
01:41:08,100 --> 01:41:11,600
Cool.
We talk about that right now.

1706
01:41:17,600 --> 01:41:21,500
So, the issue that I'm in, they
follow the trail of, I guess the

1707
01:41:21,500 --> 01:41:23,900
footprints that were I don't
left off their.

1708
01:41:23,900 --> 01:41:30,000
They left behind by this thing
and they they found a piece of

1709
01:41:30,000 --> 01:41:33,300
its fur.
That had been like stuck on some

1710
01:41:33,300 --> 01:41:36,000
Barbed Wire.
Yeah.

1711
01:41:39,200 --> 01:41:40,800
So that was like the end of that
report.

1712
01:41:41,100 --> 01:41:43,600
So in the, this is all in the
70s.

1713
01:41:44,000 --> 01:41:50,000
So after this, initial sighting,
It's there for like four years.

1714
01:41:50,900 --> 01:41:53,900
There were like, like, this,
this thing.

1715
01:41:54,000 --> 01:41:55,500
There's this thing.
I don't know.

1716
01:41:55,500 --> 01:41:57,300
It'll take a big Hairy Ape out
here.

1717
01:41:57,300 --> 01:41:59,000
Just stalking us.
What the hell?

1718
01:41:59,100 --> 01:42:04,100
And this is happening around
Broward County, Florida.

1719
01:42:07,200 --> 01:42:12,600
A lot of people have said, this
is like, he's like 5 to 7 foot

1720
01:42:12,600 --> 01:42:15,300
tall.
Eight like creature is dark

1721
01:42:15,300 --> 01:42:17,500
hair.
Black hair right off?

1722
01:42:17,600 --> 01:42:22,700
Size and he's just like in know
which is creeping at us.

1723
01:42:22,700 --> 01:42:28,100
Like what's going on?
So all the newspapers in

1724
01:42:28,100 --> 01:42:32,000
Florida, they're covering is
really this.

1725
01:42:32,200 --> 01:42:35,800
Yeah.
They're like you got local news,

1726
01:42:35,800 --> 01:42:41,000
newspapers, whatever, just go on
all from this, people are like

1727
01:42:41,600 --> 01:42:44,900
seeing this thing that they've
now dubbed, the skunk ape

1728
01:42:44,900 --> 01:42:50,800
because stinky boy, because he's
a smelly guy because like all

1729
01:42:50,800 --> 01:42:54,500
that fur, of course he goes.
Smell really, really bad.

1730
01:42:57,500 --> 01:43:00,800
But apparently, they call him
scum cake too because he's black

1731
01:43:00,800 --> 01:43:03,800
fur and he has that little white
patch going on there.

1732
01:43:04,500 --> 01:43:10,200
So it was like a skunk to he
smells like a skunk it's but

1733
01:43:10,200 --> 01:43:12,300
yeah.
Apparently this thing has been

1734
01:43:12,300 --> 01:43:14,500
like em like breaking into
houses.

1735
01:43:15,100 --> 01:43:17,100
It's been stalking, the like
right.

1736
01:43:17,300 --> 01:43:21,500
Stalking people.
Yeah.

1737
01:43:26,000 --> 01:43:29,800
Somebody one of the, I guess a
local police officer said that

1738
01:43:29,800 --> 01:43:34,500
he hit us, the skunk ape with
his car because it was just like

1739
01:43:34,500 --> 01:43:35,700
running out in the street I
guess.

1740
01:43:35,700 --> 01:43:40,500
And then this left a very, very
big dent in his.

1741
01:43:40,900 --> 01:43:43,100
Yeah.
Yeah.

1742
01:43:46,000 --> 01:43:51,500
But yeah, skunky you, if you
ever go down to Florida or

1743
01:43:51,600 --> 01:43:58,200
Texas, Just Everglades, I guess
like they're big wooded areas.

1744
01:43:58,800 --> 01:44:01,400
That's where you'll find the
skunk ape.

1745
01:44:04,400 --> 01:44:09,000
There have been a lot of
pictures taken nice, since I

1746
01:44:09,000 --> 01:44:17,200
said, sir, from a distance of
course, but in the year of 2000,

1747
01:44:21,100 --> 01:44:27,600
there was a videotaping taken by
by guy.

1748
01:44:29,100 --> 01:44:37,300
His name is Dave, she lie.
And this man is like this

1749
01:44:37,300 --> 01:44:47,400
self-proclaimed skunk 8 expert.
And this.

1750
01:44:47,400 --> 01:44:50,000
Okay, so this happens, like, I
guess a couple days before

1751
01:44:50,000 --> 01:44:54,800
Christmas, this is no, no, no,
no.

1752
01:44:54,800 --> 01:44:58,600
That's a different story.
That's a different story that

1753
01:44:58,600 --> 01:45:03,300
happens.
Sorry, my notes are all over the

1754
01:45:03,300 --> 01:45:10,300
damn place.
Okay, so this does happen.

1755
01:45:10,300 --> 01:45:13,000
You're 2000 Baht.
Okay.

1756
01:45:13,500 --> 01:45:18,600
So this guy, Dave, she lie.
So he actually said that.

1757
01:45:18,600 --> 01:45:22,500
The first time he saw the skunky
was when he was 10 years old.

1758
01:45:24,000 --> 01:45:31,200
Yeah, it was like I guess his
dad had found some footprints

1759
01:45:31,200 --> 01:45:39,500
that were left by the skunky and
he was like, oh well then he's

1760
01:45:39,500 --> 01:45:42,500
like it was walking across the
swamp and my brother spotted it

1761
01:45:42,500 --> 01:45:45,700
first, but I couldn't see it
over the grass that wasn't tall.

1762
01:45:45,700 --> 01:45:59,500
Enough of course, Live.
But I guess his brother picked

1763
01:45:59,500 --> 01:46:03,300
him up and he saw he saw it like
a hundred hundred yards away.

1764
01:46:04,500 --> 01:46:07,900
We were he's like we were just
kids but we'd heard about it and

1765
01:46:07,900 --> 01:46:11,200
knew for sure what we were
looking at it looked like a man

1766
01:46:11,600 --> 01:46:17,400
but completely covered with hair
so he you know his brother him

1767
01:46:17,400 --> 01:46:22,000
and his brother out here they
are they're like in awe of this

1768
01:46:22,400 --> 01:46:30,900
big old Bigfoot type of thing.
After like they spot it starts

1769
01:46:30,900 --> 01:46:36,600
raining and then it's going to
keep runs away and then he's

1770
01:46:36,600 --> 01:46:40,400
like holy crap.
I think I finally saw this thing

1771
01:46:40,400 --> 01:46:44,000
after hearing about it for so
many years, growing up the skunk

1772
01:46:44,000 --> 01:46:49,600
ape.
The skunk and it's his name.

1773
01:46:49,600 --> 01:46:53,100
I'm so sorry, it's fine.
It's not.

1774
01:46:53,100 --> 01:46:55,300
I didn't make the name up.
Oh care.

1775
01:46:57,900 --> 01:47:04,500
But in the end, the year 2000 in
July, not December July.

1776
01:47:04,600 --> 01:47:06,100
There's another story about
December.

1777
01:47:07,700 --> 01:47:12,700
I may not tell them about that
but this is the one I want to

1778
01:47:12,700 --> 01:47:15,500
talk about.
In July 2000.

1779
01:47:16,200 --> 01:47:21,900
Dave scheele captures video of
the skunky.

1780
01:47:24,200 --> 01:47:28,800
Walking across the, I guess, the
Everglades, whatever, the swampy

1781
01:47:28,800 --> 01:47:32,400
area that's in Florida.
Let me see.

1782
01:47:32,400 --> 01:47:35,400
Let me share this to you.
I sent it into the chat.

1783
01:47:35,900 --> 01:47:38,800
I should just already had it
saved and ready to go.

1784
01:47:38,800 --> 01:47:43,900
But you know.
Come on.

1785
01:47:44,600 --> 01:47:52,000
But yet in this video, you will
see a humanoid ape-like

1786
01:47:52,000 --> 01:47:57,300
creature.
Walking just, you know, at first

1787
01:47:57,300 --> 01:48:02,100
he is doing some type of like
stride and stuff and then he's

1788
01:48:02,100 --> 01:48:04,900
just like chilling walking and
stuff like that.

1789
01:48:08,700 --> 01:48:16,800
It's I'm sending.
I'm saying Boom, check it out.

1790
01:48:18,800 --> 01:48:27,400
No problem but you can see it
looks. like, what do you call?

1791
01:48:28,100 --> 01:48:30,600
What would you say is?
Looks like a just like one of

1792
01:48:30,600 --> 01:48:35,200
those big foot trail camera
photo like videos, you know?

1793
01:48:35,200 --> 01:48:39,900
I mean, he's just out there
chilling.

1794
01:48:40,200 --> 01:48:49,700
And somehow this guy, Dave, he
just Happens to capture this

1795
01:48:49,700 --> 01:48:50,700
thing.
That's a skunky.

1796
01:48:53,600 --> 01:49:01,200
Walking.
And yeah, and I will leave that

1797
01:49:01,200 --> 01:49:05,600
up to your imagination.
If you think that thing is real

1798
01:49:05,900 --> 01:49:13,300
or maybe it's his older brother
in a costume.

1799
01:49:22,900 --> 01:49:28,700
But yeah.
They like the thing, it just

1800
01:49:28,800 --> 01:49:34,300
it's just walking around like
these palm trees and then it

1801
01:49:35,000 --> 01:49:42,700
begins to like break into this
run somewhere as yeah, as like

1802
01:49:43,000 --> 01:49:46,300
it knows it's being watched.
So it just like kind of like

1803
01:49:46,300 --> 01:49:54,500
disappears after that Shirley
says that the swamp was covered

1804
01:49:55,500 --> 01:50:00,500
Bye, like a foot of water.
So yeah, he was like, okay,

1805
01:50:03,700 --> 01:50:12,300
yeah.
It's a big something like people

1806
01:50:12,300 --> 01:50:15,300
were like okay so it's
definitely not like dying in a

1807
01:50:15,300 --> 01:50:18,400
gorilla suit because there was
water, you had to brush is no

1808
01:50:18,400 --> 01:50:23,900
way of human could run through
all that as fast as it was

1809
01:50:23,900 --> 01:50:32,600
going.
Um, so a lot of people

1810
01:50:32,800 --> 01:50:37,300
specifically while biologists
are like this, funky does not

1811
01:50:37,300 --> 01:50:38,300
exist.
Okay?

1812
01:50:39,800 --> 01:50:45,900
now, people can, like, of
course, say that they see, like,

1813
01:50:45,900 --> 01:50:49,700
magical creatures or Cryptids
everywhere, from time to time,

1814
01:50:50,100 --> 01:50:56,600
but like, This video.
It's like spark something.

1815
01:50:56,900 --> 01:51:01,700
So it's like, it gave like
evidence of there being

1816
01:51:01,700 --> 01:51:05,300
something out there.
It's like, there's probably like

1817
01:51:05,300 --> 01:51:08,500
a giant hairy gorilla ape.
Looking thing that looks like a

1818
01:51:08,500 --> 01:51:12,800
skunk wander around Florida /
Texas.

1819
01:51:15,300 --> 01:51:17,600
Just knowing up and breaking
into people's homes.

1820
01:51:19,300 --> 01:51:21,100
I just love that part.
I don't know why.

1821
01:51:23,300 --> 01:51:28,100
Just Breath.
He's a stalker skunky, and he's

1822
01:51:28,100 --> 01:51:32,100
hunting.
That's the truth.

1823
01:51:32,100 --> 01:51:38,100
You should will post that link
to in the notes section of

1824
01:51:38,100 --> 01:51:40,700
videos of people can look at it.
I don't know what it is.

1825
01:51:40,800 --> 01:51:48,800
Yeah.
A lot of people are saying like

1826
01:51:48,800 --> 01:51:50,400
this is like this is weak
evidence.

1827
01:51:50,400 --> 01:51:53,200
You like, you know like a lot of
people because you know yeah

1828
01:51:53,200 --> 01:52:00,600
Skeptics out there of course who
are just like I hi Probably

1829
01:52:00,600 --> 01:52:03,600
don't believe in his come gate
but I probably more in the

1830
01:52:03,608 --> 01:52:06,100
Bigfoot but that's that's about
me.

1831
01:52:09,300 --> 01:52:16,700
But there was like, Hey, look.
Look at this video you can't.

1832
01:52:16,700 --> 01:52:19,000
You can't tell me that's not
something that's out there.

1833
01:52:20,200 --> 01:52:27,900
But yeah a lot of people love
says concave like okay,

1834
01:52:29,600 --> 01:52:32,200
particularly everybody in
Florida.

1835
01:52:32,600 --> 01:52:34,200
Who wasn't for who come from
Florida?

1836
01:52:34,200 --> 01:52:36,600
They were born in Florida.
They know all about skunk ape.

1837
01:52:36,600 --> 01:52:39,500
You know why?
Because it's, I guess apparently

1838
01:52:39,500 --> 01:52:46,900
it's an unofficial mascot for
like the Wilderness in Rourke

1839
01:52:46,900 --> 01:52:52,900
Archer.
I'm pretty sure I saw something

1840
01:52:53,000 --> 01:52:58,000
about.
A skunkfest, a Lord.

1841
01:53:02,900 --> 01:53:06,400
Let me see.
I bet you I could find his real

1842
01:53:06,400 --> 01:53:09,100
quick.
Yes, I can real real quick and

1843
01:53:09,100 --> 01:53:13,100
guess when it takes place.
Wait, no, that's a different

1844
01:53:13,100 --> 01:53:16,400
one.
Okay, never mind.

1845
01:53:18,200 --> 01:53:23,000
Let me write skunk ape this.
Because there's a skunk fast but

1846
01:53:23,000 --> 01:53:30,800
I think it's a different thing.
When is your festivals going to

1847
01:53:30,808 --> 01:53:32,900
keep people?
I need to know.

1848
01:53:35,300 --> 01:53:39,200
To make this a lot more funnier
than it is.

1849
01:53:42,000 --> 01:53:46,300
God, I don't know.
I took place in October.

1850
01:53:46,300 --> 01:53:48,900
I'm pretty sure it takes place.
Marking that sounds fun.

1851
01:53:50,600 --> 01:54:02,000
Yeah, they also give tours of I
guess the We're just going to

1852
01:54:02,700 --> 01:54:13,600
check out. skunk ape that info,
its The only do they have webs

1853
01:54:13,600 --> 01:54:16,800
of website, they have apparel.
So you want some skunk ape

1854
01:54:17,900 --> 01:54:22,100
finger feet or some trucker hats
at have a skunk ape on it?

1855
01:54:22,100 --> 01:54:25,500
Or you gotta you want a skunk
ape hunting permit?

1856
01:54:26,000 --> 01:54:29,600
Hey, this is your place to go
and yes, I am giving you a free

1857
01:54:29,600 --> 01:54:35,700
shot a hook.
Check out this going to eat it.

1858
01:54:35,700 --> 01:54:42,100
Like they got so much.
I'm trying to find.

1859
01:54:42,100 --> 01:54:47,200
I want to find out, they
probably don't have, it is what

1860
01:54:47,200 --> 01:54:49,900
it is.
I was pretty sure I saw

1861
01:54:49,900 --> 01:54:52,000
something about skunk egg
festival, and I got really

1862
01:54:52,000 --> 01:54:56,700
excited and I was like, yes, I
think it like it takes place.

1863
01:54:56,700 --> 01:55:00,300
Of course, takes place in
Florida, but I read that.

1864
01:55:00,300 --> 01:55:04,300
It's like whoever makes like the
best can kick mask or something

1865
01:55:04,300 --> 01:55:06,900
like that.
They went to a contest.

1866
01:55:10,300 --> 01:55:16,100
It's, it's real funny.
Oh, and it's going to keep has

1867
01:55:16,100 --> 01:55:18,800
another name.
Of course.

1868
01:55:18,900 --> 01:55:31,500
It's is called Bigfoot.
No, it's called.

1869
01:55:32,600 --> 01:55:36,000
Yes Bigfoot.
Um, it's called the Myakka

1870
01:55:36,000 --> 01:55:43,600
eight.
I'm not sure if that is

1871
01:55:43,600 --> 01:55:48,400
anything, but whatever.
I just like the pictures of it

1872
01:55:48,400 --> 01:55:50,600
and like I like the video of it
too.

1873
01:55:50,600 --> 01:55:57,300
Okay.
In the listeners to decide.

1874
01:55:57,300 --> 01:56:02,800
If they think it's something or
not I bet you anybody from

1875
01:56:02,800 --> 01:56:04,300
Florida.
Be like, oh yeah, yeah, we know

1876
01:56:04,300 --> 01:56:11,000
about this is true too.
It's just like West Virginia,

1877
01:56:11,000 --> 01:56:13,800
okay?
With all their cryptids in like,

1878
01:56:14,800 --> 01:56:19,300
My fans the only legit 10K
Mothman and maybe the Flatwoods

1879
01:56:19,300 --> 01:56:22,200
Monster and maybe the great.
I do like the Flatwoods Monster

1880
01:56:22,200 --> 01:56:24,100
but the Flatwoods Monster is
just an alien.

1881
01:56:24,300 --> 01:56:26,500
Yeah, see ya?
Yeah, you're right.

1882
01:56:26,600 --> 01:56:28,800
It didn't stay.
It's just came here to look

1883
01:56:28,800 --> 01:56:29,200
cute.
Little alien dress.

1884
01:56:34,300 --> 01:56:35,700
Oh my God.
What?

1885
01:56:35,700 --> 01:56:40,000
Yeah, skunk ape.
Look it up.

1886
01:56:40,000 --> 01:56:43,000
If you don't believe if you
don't believe you better start

1887
01:56:43,000 --> 01:56:49,000
believing because it's a thing
and that's what I got.

1888
01:56:49,500 --> 01:56:58,500
Yeah well thanks for listening
yes yes we do and happy October

1889
01:56:58,900 --> 01:56:59,900
happy act two.