The Lie Is the Point: Who Gets to Be an American When State Violence Is Justified
Every time a Black person is killed, the lie arrives faster than the facts.
He had a gun. He was high. She was threatening.
In this alternative episode of When Killers Get Caught, Brittany Ransom steps away from a traditional case to examine a pattern that stretches from Emmett Till to the present day and why the phrase “they’re killing Americans now” is landing as confirmation, not concern, for Black Americans and other marginalized communities.
This episode explores how state violence has historically been justified through dehumanization, fear, and selective citizenship. From Indigenous displacement and slavery to policing, internment, mass detention, and modern use-of-force narratives.
Drawing on history, law, and the warnings of James Baldwin, this episode asks a difficult but necessary question: Who is recognized as fully human, and when does injustice finally “count”?
This is not about partisanship. It’s about citizenship, power, and the cost of a system that teaches itself how to look away.
Content warning: This episode discusses state violence, racism, and historical trauma.Sources for this episode include U.S. Supreme Court decisions, federal legislation, Department of the Interior reports, and the work of James Baldwin, Roxanne Dunbar-Ortiz, Michelle Alexander, Erika Lee, and other historians and legal scholars.
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Every time a black person is
killed, the lie arrives faster
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than the facts.
He had a gun, he was high, she
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was threatening.
He went for his weapon.
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He looked dangerous.
He whistled before the name is
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even cold.
On the timeline, the
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justification is already
trending.
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And lately, something else has
been trending too.
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People saying they're killing
Americans now.
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And every time I hear that,
something in my chest drops
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because what I and A lot of
black people and people of color
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aren't hearing is concern.
We're hearing a revelation.
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It's the quiet part being said
out loud, because the now
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implies that there was a time
when this didn't count, and
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implies that there was a group
that this violence belonged to.
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And it implies that some deaths
only become unjust once they've
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reached the right people.
I want to pause here and say
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this clearly.
If you consider yourself an
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ally, or if you're confused by
the anger and grief you're
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seeing from people of color
right now, I need you to stay
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with me for this episode.
Please don't scroll away.
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Please don't tune it out.
This matters more than any
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solitary case.
My name is Brittany Ransom and
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this is when killers get caught,
and I had a true crime episode
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planned for this week.
It was researched, outlined, and
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every time I sat down and
recorded, I couldn't because
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something bigger is happening in
this country and pretending this
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is just another isolated tragedy
feels dishonest.
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For five years, you have trusted
me to talk about violence,
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justice and accountability with
honesty.
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So today, instead of a case, I
need to talk to you about a
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pattern.
I need to talk about the lie,
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and I need to explain why that
phrase they're killing Americans
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now is landing like confirmation
for people who have been buried
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under this violence for
generations.
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This episode isn't about
politics.
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It isn't about partisanship.
It's about citizenship, who gets
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it, who is conditional for, and
who only seems to count once
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It's already too late.
If you have ever trusted my
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perspective before, I'm asking
you to stop and listen now when
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people say they're killing
Americans now.
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The word now is doing some heavy
lifting.
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It implies that there was a
before a time when this kind of
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violence was tolerated.
It implies there was a group
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this violence belonged to, and
implies that a line was only
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crossed when the victim fit a
narrow definition of who
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qualifies as an American.
For many Black people and people
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of color, that statement does
not register as outrage.
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It registers as a confirmation.
Confirmation that our deaths
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were never understood as civic
crises, that our citizenship was
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always conditional, that we were
seen not as full participants in
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the social contract.
But that is exceptions to it,
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acceptable losses within IT.
When you hear names like George
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Floyd, Sonia Massey, Tamir Rice,
Eric Gartner, Ayanna Stanley
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Jones, Philando Castile, Brianna
Taylor or Sandra Bland, it
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didn't provoke the same
language, the same urgency, or
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the same insistence.
That this isn't who we are
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signals something deeply
unsettling.
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The same is true for cases like
Quanfang and Fang Lee.
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Their deaths did not produce
sustained national reckoning.
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We also spent much of 2025
watching Hispanic communities
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subjected to mass detention and
dehumanization with little
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public response.
Indigenous Americans continue to
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be detained and harmed with
minimal attention.
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Yet the killing of a white
civilian suddenly reframes this
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issue as unprecedented violence.
And that disparity matters not
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because anyone death is more
tragic than another, but because
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selective recognition fractures
movements and it erodes trust.
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Solidarity cannot survive if
people feel like their humanity
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is only acknowledged
retroactively or conditionally.
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What white Americans must
understand is this proximity to
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privilege is not immunity.
White supremacy is always
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conditional.
It protects compliance, not
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conscience.
We have seen this before during
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Jim Crow.
White Americans who stood
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alongside black people, who
challenged segregation, who
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organized, who refused to uphold
racial terror.
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They were beaten alongside of
us.
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Some of them were jailed.
Some were outright murdered.
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Their whiteness did not save
them once they broke ranks with
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a system that demanded their
silence.
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And that history matters because
it makes clear that what is
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happening now is not an
aberration.
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When people step outside the
boundaries of what power allows,
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when they question authority,
when they dispute the hierarchy,
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the system responds the way it
always has, with force.
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Both good and Cratty were not
targeted because whiteness
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suddenly stopped existing.
They were targeted because they
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stopped performing obedience.
Good was a queer, outspoken
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woman who was unwilling to
submit.
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She challenged misogyny and
authority simultaneously, and
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that resistance was met with
violence.
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Pretty was similarly punished
for defiance, ignoring federal
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agents, intervening on behalf of
someone who was being harmed,
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and refusing to perform
deference to their power.
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That active refusal was met with
force, captured from multiple
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angles in public view.
This is the lesson that history
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keeps offering us.
The moment privilege is mistaken
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for protection, people are
caught unprepared.
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Compliance might buy temporary
safety, but has never guaranteed
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justice.
That reality is not new.
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It is simply more familiar now
than it has been in the past.
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Now, black Americans are often
told after moments like this,
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This isn't who we are.
This isn't what America stands
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for.
The system failed, but a system
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cannot fail.
It's something it was never
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designed to prevent.
From the very beginning,
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American citizenship has been
conditional granted selectively,
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enforced unevenly, and withdrawn
whenever it became inconvenient.
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In 1790, the Naturalization Act
restricted citizenship to free
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white persons, and in 1857, Dred
Scott versus Sanford made it
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explicit.
Black people, enslaved or free,
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were said to have no rights,
which the white man was bound to
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respect.
After slavery, Black codes and
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vagrancy laws criminalize Black
existence to preserve control.
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In another form, Plessy versus
Ferguson told us that
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segregation was constitutional
as long as inequality was made
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orderly.
Even when rights were finally
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acknowledged on paper, they were
never enforced equally in
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practice.
So citizenship became
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conditional on race, on
behavior, on how non threatening
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you appear in someone else's
imagination.
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But the same logic didn't stop
with just black Americans.
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Chinese immigrants were excluded
by law in 1882.
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Japanese Americans, most of them
citizens, were imprisoned during
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World War 2 under Korematsu
versus the United States, not
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because they had done anything
wrong, but for who they might
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be.
Mexican Americans were deported
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in Mass during the 30s and then
again during Operation Wetback,
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which is I can't believe that's
legally what they called that,
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but it was often done without
regard for their citizenship.
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Puerto Ricans were surveilled,
sterilized, and met with state
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violence despite being legal
American citizens.
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Each time the justification was
the same national security,
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public safety order, and each
time due process was treated as
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optional.
So when it's good or pratty is
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killed and people suddenly say
this is unjust, what many of us
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are hearing is not awakening.
It's timing.
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It sounds like, Oh, so it counts
now.
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And that doesn't feel like
solidarity.
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It feels like being told, again,
that our deaths have always been
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background noise, that violence
only becomes a national crisis
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once it reaches people who were
assumed to be safe from it.
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This isn't about denying
anyone's humanity.
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It's about recognizing how long
ours has been debated.
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See, the lie is never about the
truth.
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It's about permissions.
It doesn't matter if the gun was
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fake, as it was with Tamir Rice,
because American law has long
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allowed lethal force based on
perceived threat rather than
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actual danger.
It doesn't matter if the drugs
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were irrelevant to the case, as
they were with George Floyd,
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because criminalization has
always been used to posthumously
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justify violence, from slave
patrol reports to modern police
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press releases.
It doesn't matter if the water
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on the stove was boiling, like
in Sonia Massey's case, because
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ordinary actions have
historically been reframed as
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threatening when performed by
Black bodies.
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It doesn't matter if the threat
was entirely imaginary, as it
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was with Elijah McClain, because
fear itself has always been
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treated as sufficient evidence.
And it does not matter if the
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accusation was a myth like it
was with Emmett Till, because
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American history shows us that
the claim has never needed to be
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true, only believable to a
certain audience.
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It's not new, guys.
During slavery, enforcers
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documented punishments as
discipline to justify torture.
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During Reconstruction, Black
Codes criminalized unemployment
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and loitering to justify
arresting people and forcing
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them into labor.
During the Jim Crow era,
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lynchings were routinely
defended as responses to alleged
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threats that were later proven
false, if they were investigated
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at all.
In the early 20th century,
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police reports and newspapers
regularly framed Black victims
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as aggressors to rationalize mob
of violence and state inaction.
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The lie has always functioned
the same way.
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Not to investigate what
happened, but to explain why it
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just didn't matter.
And that logic was later
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codified into law in Graham
versus Connor.
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In 1989, the Supreme Court ruled
that police use of force must be
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judged from the perspective of a
reasonable officer in the
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moment, not by its actual
outcome, not by the harm it
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caused, and not by facts that we
learned afterward.
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That standard prioritizes
perception over reality.
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In Tennessee versus Garner 1985,
lethal force was limited in
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theory, but still allowed
wherever an officer claims to
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perceive a significant threat.
In other words, the system
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doesn't require the lie to even
be true, and only requires it to
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be legible.
America just keeps recycling the
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same justification because it
works.
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It dulls the public outrage by
shifting focus away from the
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violence itself.
It stalls accountability by
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turning every death into a
debate and the victims
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worthiness.
And it transforms the public
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into a jury and asks us to
evaluate character rather than
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conduct.
While the state's power is
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presumed legitimate by default,
this isn't an institutional
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breakdown.
This is institutional
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continuity.
The lie is not a bug in the
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system, it's a feature.
James Baldwin said it plainly in
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1964, and nothing personal.
The violence was being
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perpetuated mainly against black
men and so it didn't count.
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But if a society permits 1
portion of its citizenry to be
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menaced or destroyed, then very
soon no one in that society is
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safe.
Baldwin was not speculating, he
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was documenting a pattern that
was already decades old.
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He went on to warn the forces
thus released in the people can
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never be held in check, but run
their devouring course,
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destroying the very foundations
which it was imagined they would
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save.
And finally, he named the cost.
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What we are struggling against
is that death in the heart,
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which leads to not only the
shedding of blood, but which
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reduces human beings to corpses
while they live.
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I'll say it again, it didn't
count.
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That's the context that a lot of
people are missing right now.
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Because when violence is
permitted against one group long
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enough, a country doesn't become
safer.
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It becomes practiced at
explaining itself and learns the
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language of evasion.
It develops A moral callous.
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This is why black Americans are
so angry.
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Not confused, not shocked, but
furious because the nation did
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not fail to understand what was
happening.
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It learned how to survive it.
How to anesthetize itself with
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character assassination, how to
call murder contacts and
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brutality complexity.
How to replace accountability
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with endless debates over tone,
compliance and perceived threat.
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And every time we accept this
setup.
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Was he really reaching?
Was she really threatening?
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We are participating in the lie
because those questions are
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never asked in good faith.
It's not designed to uncover the
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truth.
It's designed to decide whose
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life is worth defending after
the fact.
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Baldwin warned us that once a
society normalizes this kind of
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moral triage, the violence
cannot remain contained.
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And the same logic that once
rendered black suffering
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invisible will expand outward
because the system is already
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learned that it can.
This is in hindsight.
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It's history speaking in real
time.
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And here's the uncomfortable
truth.
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What's happening now doesn't
feel new to us.
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What feels new is who people are
finally willing to recognize as
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victims.
The machinery didn't suddenly
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appear.
It didn't suddenly become
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violent.
It didn't suddenly abandoned
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restraint or due process.
This system was built with those
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exceptions already baked in.
What changed is not the behavior
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of the state.
It's the identity of the people
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now caught in the gears.
The violence didn't escalate.
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It simply expanded into spaces
where it was never supposed to
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go.
For generations, there have been
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an unspoken understanding about
who this system exists to
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protect, who it is allowed to
discipline, contain or discard.
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Some people were always treated
as citizens, and others were
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treated as problems to be
managed.
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So when someone says they're
killing Americans now, it
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doesn't sound like an awakening.
It sounds like a line being
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crossed not because the violence
became unjust, but because it
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became inconvenient.
It feels like a belated
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recognition, like discovering a
fire only once it reaches the
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room that you assumed was
fireproof.
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And for those of us who have
lived with the smoke for
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generations, that distinction
matters.
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Remember, James Baldwin warned
that a society that allows some
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people to be destroyed cannot
contain the forces it unleashes.
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Violence cannot and does not
stay neatly assigned to its
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original targets.
And the United States Indigenous
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nations were the first testing
ground.
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The government declared Native
people were savages, denied
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their sovereignty and used
military force, forced removal,
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starvation and mass killing as
policy.
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The Trail of Tears was a legally
sanctioned ethnic cleansing.
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Wounded Knee was a massacre.
Residential schools abducted
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children to erase language,
culture and identity.
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Reservations were enforced
through continued military
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violence.
The lesson was clear.
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Some lives could be erased for
the so-called greater good.
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That logic was refined and
expanded through slavery.
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Enslaved Africans were
considered property.
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Violence was legalized,
regulated, and it became
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economic.
Punishment was public and
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instructional design, not just
to control people, but to
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terrorize entire communities
into submission.
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Slave patrols are the direct
ancestors of modern policing and
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they were created to capture
escaped and free Black people,
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enforce racial hierarchy, and
maintain order through fear.
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When slavery ended, the violence
didn't.
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It was just rebranded black
codes, convict leasing, Jim
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Crow, lynching.
Through social control, the lie
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became necessary.
Black people said to themselves,
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if we're free, then this
violence must be justified.
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That guy must have done
something to deserve it, and the
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same machinery just kept
chugging forward.
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Native Hawaiians saw their
sovereign government overthrown
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in 1893, their land seized and
U.S.
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Marines occupying their
homeland, reframing it as
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annexation.
Chinese immigrants built the
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railroads that connected our
nation, thousands dying in the
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process, only to be repaid with
the Chinese Exclusion Act, the
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first law to ban immigration
based on race.
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During World War 2 / 120,000
Japanese Americans were
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imprisoned in internment camps.
No charges, no evidence, no due
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process, just collective
suspicion they might be
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dangerous.
After Jim Crow ended, the
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violence pivoted again.
Mexican Americans were lynched.
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In 1954, Operation Wetback
deported over 1,000,000 people,
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many of whom were U.S. citizens,
branding the Latino identity
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itself as illegal after 911
Muslim people, Arab people, and
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South Asian communities were
subjected to surveillance
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without warrants, detention
without charges, deportation
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without evidence, entire
communities positioned as
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threats.
And here's the part that people
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miss.
For many groups, this violence
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comes in waves during war,
panic, or crisis.
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But for Black Americans, it's
never really ended.
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Policing, incarceration,
surveillance and lethal force
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have become permanent domestic
applications of the same logic
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first used against Native
Americans and enslaved Africans.
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That's why when people say
they're killing Americans now,
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what Black people here is You
weren't the Americans we met.
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Because the formula has always
been consistent.
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Dehumanize the group, label them
dangerous, suspend their rights.
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Call it necessary, forget it
later.
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The targets change, the script
doesn't.
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And James Baldwin warned us, if
a society permits 1 portion of
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its citizenry to be menaced or
destroyed, then very soon no one
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in that society is safe.
What we are witnessing right now
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is not a breakdown or a
deviation.
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It is the bill coming due, the
logical outcome of a system that
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has been excusing itself for
over 400 years.
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A system that has rotted
institutions, brutalized
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language, and hollowed out the
public consciousness.
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What we are witnessing is not a
string of isolated tragedies.
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It's a governing philosophy
being exercised in real time.
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The lie no longer whispers.
It legislates.
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It campaigns.
It trends state violence is no
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longer treated as a regrettable
failure, but as a necessary
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tool.
Due process has been reframed as
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an inconvenience.
Empathy is now weakness.
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Dissent is a threat.
We are living in a political
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climate where power is openly
testing how much force it can
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use, how many rights it can
spend, how many people it can
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discard before the word American
loses all meaning.
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And what makes this moment
dangerous is not just who is
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being harmed, it's just how many
people are being asked to accept
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it as normal, to see brutality
as order, to see fear as
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governance, to see disappearance
as policy.
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We were warned that once a
society decides some lives must
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justify the existence of others,
it has already surrendered its
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moral center.
The bloodshed is only the
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visible damage.
The deeper devastation is what
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happens when the public
conscience goes quiet.
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It is not a question of unity,
it is a question of honesty.
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Because a nation that only
recognizes injustice once it
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reaches certain people was never
built on equal protection to
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begin with.
And a country that teaches its
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citizens to look away or explain
away will eventually find there
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is nowhere left to stand that
isn't soaked in the same logic.
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My name is Brady Ransom, and
this has been an alternate
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episode of When Killers Get
Caught.
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No one should have to die to be
recognized as human, and if that
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idea feels radical in this
country right now, that should
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terrify us all.