Episode 24. Earl Nelson: Boarding Houses Beware

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Everybody in serial killer
country.

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My name is Brittany.
Ransom, and my name is Brian

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Joiner.
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Supernatural. yes, and our first
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True Crime and this one is I
don't know, I guess, it's not so

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good, but it ends kind of sort
of feel-good, listen.

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All right.
I'll just explain in taxes.

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This came out the end of June, a
little girl was in her bedroom.

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She was about 10 years old and
she screamed for her parents.

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And outside of her window was a
man looking through her window

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and like touching himself
inappropriately.

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Oh, no.
So both Mom and Dad, grab their

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guns.
And Ran outside the guy fled to

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a gas station and they chased
him.

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So then the wife stood there,
like Mom holding her gun on him

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and dad went inside to call 911
and then I guess the man

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thinking that the woman would be
weaker whatever, tried to like

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wrestle the gun away from her
and dad, stepped out and shot

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him three times.
And like, the mom was over, like

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we didn't want to shoot him, we
were waiting for police to come

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and detain him, because if I'm
pretty sure, if he did this to

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my children, he would do it to
somebody else.

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Yeah.
His name hasn't been released

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but like I'm pretty sure he's
dead.

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That's kind of the story.
Well, you kind of get what you

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get, exactly.
And like, I'm not sorry.

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Sir, that you should should be
doing.

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Like, why?
Why it's will know how old was

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this child?
She's 10.

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N-no.
It's just, like, makes me want

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to just think like, no matter
what if your kid asked to have

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their bedroom on the first
floor, just know?

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Yeah, nothing goes well, with
having your bedroom on the first

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floor, no, because black-eyed
children, there's Cryptids.

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There's my picture window.
There's pedophiles fucking flow,

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okay?
They will float.

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I'm saying is keep that kid up
on a second floor, but let me

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tell you my kids are on the
second floor and right.

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In the windows, Mike is.
Yeah.

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Oh yeah, definitely.
They're always like, hey, what

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you doing now?
They're judging our Mass but

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regardless like, you know, well,
it was a quick solution to a

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problem, wasn't it?
Yeah.

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Like you kind of get effed up
dude.

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And then you got chase down and
you wanted to try to fight you

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thought you should have just
stopped.

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That's really the dream that I
really should have.

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Oh well oh well, oh my god.
Well, Justice served, there you

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go.
And Speaking of Justice.

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Alrighty, Try.
I'm going to speak about some

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justice now.
I'm going to start this off with

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a quote.
So this is a threat to you.

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When I find you, I will show
you.

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Is that what I do to serial
killers?

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And this is a quote, from a man
from Alaska who know, this is a

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guy from Arkansas, okay?
So next to Texas, it's a guy

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superhero.
His name is Shadow vision.

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Okay.
This is a picture of him in his

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costume.
His suit.

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Oh, he really has set himself up
he's a vigilante, he is yes.

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Um so he's a self-professed
superhero.

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Who is hunting a serial killer
stabber, Ciro stabber in

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Arkansas?
Okay, let's see. so, I guess

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this Ciro stabber has been
attacking people since August

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20, 20, and This is when Shadow
Vision comes into play.

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Okay, so he has a, he has a
Facebook page and this is where

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he made his quote, he has a
Facebook page.

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Yeah, probably happy.
So I guess on Thursday, he had

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told follower on his Facebook
page that he was in Little Rock.

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Arkansas is where just his
dabbing has been taking place

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and that he was hunting, the
serial killer that was there.

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And there have been For knife
attacks and only three words

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that were fatal.
That's still a lot.

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Yeah.
But the surviving victim she was

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stabbed 15 times.
Yeah.

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So look dude, I know right?
Um we do wish you luck in your

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in your hunt Shadow vision and I
do hope that you either help you

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find the guy.
Usually somebody else as opposed

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to say.
Either you help find this man or

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that, you know, somebody finds
somebody stops him or stops them

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and makes sense to me.
Yeah yeah.

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Um I guess he has a tick tock as
well haha.

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That's awesome.
What cystic duct?

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Um it's probably just Shadow
version, it probably is but

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apparently there's a tick tock
her.

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There's somebody wrote on Comedy
is like, I can't with this

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stupid City.
I can't even Stating that her

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first city has a serial killer
and now superhero to protect

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them.
So, Look, this sounds like a

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good.
I like this.

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Like, if we had a superhero in
our city, I'm like all about you

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like, dude, let me buy you
drinks.

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Did you find a tick?
Tock that look on your face,

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he's walking around.
You just searched Shadow Vision

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on Tick-Tock, y'all and he, this
videos of it PPL behind him.

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Like he's walking around the
city.

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Yo, let me buy you.
I wish I could buy you drink,

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you have a Kofi.
If you have a cool video

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patreon, what do you had, dude?
Give me your cash app.

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I'll cash up, you some cash so
you can buy a drink.

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Yep.
So private and I took a very

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small moment to look up the
shadow Vision post on Connor

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Tick-Tock.
Oh my God boy, are they worth

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it?
Apparently Shadow fission is

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from Ireland, Scotland, I can't
mess that up.

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He's from Scotland and he came
to Arkansas because he felt the

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people of Arkansas were losing
hope.

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Also he has friends one name,
tothe Ian, and it Master Legend

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and they go on patrols together.
What?

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Does Master Legend wearing
Master Legend?

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Legitimately has a Boba Fett
mask on along with like a silver

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outfit.
So fucking awesome.

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It's great.
I'm so sorry.

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Shadow vision.
I was incredible.

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I'm kind of well, I'm glad.
He has friends though.

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So he also, he is fundraising,
he's crowdfunding so he can get

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an official superhero vehicle.
Yo, his cash app is money, sign

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RLS.
Ha, ha ha h-hey.

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Dow.
I'll give you my whole paycheck.

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The is IO n.
So it's just real life, SSH

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Shadow vision.
I'll give you my whole paycheck

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it.
So you get a car just drive you

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drive here though.
Okay, you drive to where I am a

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video of the three of them
walking together in Arkansas, I

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was awesome.
This is from Toby.

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It says, at Tony and oh my god,
he has his own page 111

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followers.
Come on, y'all helped.

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Oh, the and become a real
superhero police take time.

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How are you supposed thousand
followers?

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He go live to listen.
You have more Tick-Tock

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followers.
Usher's of the problem.

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Look, it's a lot.
It is it's a lot like us.

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You like how do you do this?
I'm like, when we when I first

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started, The Tick-Tock I was
posting three or four times a

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day for the first four months.
Now I am at a place where I can

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post like once or twice a day or
every other day.

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Yeah.
Got like a certain amount of

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views, but you have to really
dedicate like right away, but

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like all of them have a couple
hundred views as well.

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Say my I believe this one I
would have thought I'd got you

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had more until you removed it.
I responded the first time I

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didn't have I don't think I had
more than that.

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Really no.
Oh well well this you just

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brought some light to my life.
You're welcome.

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This is just hope that woke you
up.

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I also got my some coffee and
I'll break.

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So, there you go.
So there we go.

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So this week, I kind of tasked
myself with trying to find a

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serial killer that wasn't as
familiar with as some of the

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other ones, which is hard for
people who are crime nerds like

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us, right?
So, I was browsing on Amazon and

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I said, looking at a book from
Michael Newton, and he wrote one

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of the cyclope Diaz of serial
killers that I own, as well as a

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really frustrating book that
I've been reading through called

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the unsolved civil rights murder
cases, which is just all of the

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horrible murders, that went
unsolved, because Racism.

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But a book popped up in my
suggestions that was called the

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dark Strangler Earl Leonard
Nelson.

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And I had never heard the name
before, which doesn't really

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happen that often to me, like
usually when people in my live

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streams are like, hey, have you
heard of this person?

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It's because the crime had
literally happened days ago.

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Yeah.
And I haven't had a chance to

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see it on the news yet but like
if it comes with somebody who's

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like been around for 100 years,
absolutely, I know that britni

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knows about them.
But what I discovered is, The

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reason why we don't know much
about this is because right

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during the 1920s, when Earl
Leonard Nelson was busy doing

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his criming the media was
obsessed with gangs and you

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know, it was Prohibition
Elliott.

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Now else, you know, and leonesse
all of that stuff, you know, and

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they very much took a backseat
to unlike the 70s and the 90s,

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which were all serial killers
all the time, great, it was a

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pop in time.
A serial killers.

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In fact, when Nelson was
killing, they didn't even have a

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word for what he was doing.
That word wasn't crafted until

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the 70s by wrestler agent.
Ressler.

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Yeah, so, What I will tell you
about this.

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Well, like it, you know, I've
mentioned him in passing but he

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slipped in and out of boarding
homes houses which is really

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popular in the 20s.
People just would like rent a

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room and somebody's house.
And a lot of people were doing

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it a lot more than now.
Honestly, he was able to get in

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and out of highly populated
areas and he he was strong in

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fact like at one point like they
referred to him as like a

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gorilla, like a gorilla killer.
Oh my God.

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It was a weird name.
Mmmmm kicker what they thought

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of it was like almost inhuman
the way that he could like I

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want to destroy a body but the
way that he's sometimes, hid

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them in places where bodies
shouldn't fit.

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Yeah.
From pull them up.

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Yeah, that was something that he
could do with ease, but yeah.

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Now I have my own feelings about
why I think this man was able to

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get in and out of places easily.
I think it's because he looks

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like an unremarkable, white man,
but You'll see what I mean, but

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his name is a dark Strangler.
Well, that's okay.

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I got also explained that to, I
didn't realize this until I

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started reading from a couple
different sources.

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But, you know, the phrase tall
dark and handsome, it doesn't

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mean like black people.
It means like men who have like

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like white men who have dark
coloration like darker tan skin,

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dark hair, dark eyes.
They're not, but they're still

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quite so.
But when I think of tall dark

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and handsome, I think of like
someone who's brown skin.

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Yes.
And then you know, I didn't I

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didn't realize that that was the
original like explanation of

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that.
So he's kind of the dark

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Strangler because he just didn't
look like a blonde hair

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blue-eyed.
White guy, you know, had as they

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say in the books, darker
features, you know, this one

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happened if Shadow Vision was
around.

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I think if only there had been
Shadow Vision across all of

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America and into Canada.
Oh my god.

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Oh Also because he killed all
over the place.

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He would have been he killed
Across America as he was running

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away.
This would have been like The

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Dark Knight like actually yeah
that dark night when no not that

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one like that actually the dark
night when Batman goes across

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the fucking see the get the
remember these movies have I've

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watched them once, okay?
Like 10 years, never mind.

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I'm sorry.
No you're fine.

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All I remember is Christian Bale
talking in his mother's my

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Batman voice my mother's name is
Damaris there as well.

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Yeah.
The Batman voice was like it

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completely honestly.
If I'm right, I think the

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original Dark Knight with Heath
Ledger that came out when I was

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in like high school.
So it was a long time ago for

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me, oh my God, I said that on
DVD it's a good movie DVDs for

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all of you who don't know DVDs.
Wow diesel before streaming Oh

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weird is dating ourselves left
and right here.

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Okay.
Back to your dark Strangler.

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But regardless, we're going to
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start with the beginning.
Earl Nelson was actually born

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Earl Leonard Farrell on May 12,
1897, in San Francisco,

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California to Frances Nelson an
English woman and James Farrow.

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A Spanish, man.
Both of his parents died from

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syphilis.
France has passed away.

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When I was only nine months old
and James past, six months

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later, he was sent to live with
his maternal grandmother Jenny.

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Jenny Nelson who promptly
changed his name from Farrell to

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Nelson, the sources, don't
really say why.

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But I am just imagining that the
reason why she did this is

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because her daughter died from
syphilis that she got from her

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spouse only makes sense.
Apparently, there were tests

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that you were supposed to do
before you got married to some

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money.
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you took like a spousal STD test
like 100 years ago, to make sure

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that your spouse didn't have
like a tertiary.

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Hello.
Well, that should be like a

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common thing now to we do
listen, you know, people don't

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do nothing.
I'm just saying that should be a

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thing.
People are like, what's herpes?

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We good I'm sure.
We gonna tell people yeah, until

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people.
Oh my God, it's awful.

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No, don't date.
Just dumping dating sucks.

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Y'all back on target?
Yeah, Earl grew up with his

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grandmother's, two children,
technically, his aunt Lily.

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Ian and his uncle will has, they
were 10 and 18 years older than

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him.
So he 10 and 8 years, older

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Jenny was a devout Pentecostal
woman and religion was a huge

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part of Earl's life from young
to old after doing some after we

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talked about.
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Like we did two weeks ago, I was
definitely looking up the

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connection with like these
religious women and these men's

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lives because it seems to keep
coming up and so Robert wrestler

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the FBI agent, who coined the
term serial killer.

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He did that with his team of
people the FBI by interviewing

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just a tremendous amount of
serial killers and rest was

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released a bunch of books.
But the one that I was looking

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at, he said that in two-thirds
of serial killers, he profiled.

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They all had a dominant female
presence in their life

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specifically in their formative
years and there were there was

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no father figure in the home.
But But by the time, these

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serial killers men, reach 12
years old.

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And, of course, I'm not saying
that single moms are raising

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serial killers, but it is a very
interesting consistent thing,

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especially once it's then added
with the very dogmatic

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aggressive religion.
Yeah, which describes a gheens

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mother as in the same as JD
Nelson because it is like

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pressured on to them to then at
that time, at that point.

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Yeah.
And I'm just, I do hate the

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concept of religion.
I think it can be very helpful

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to a lot of People.
But man, do I know how it has

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completely destroyed.
So many people, I know

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personally, I have friends whose
families were part of Cults, who

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are a reprobate harmed.
Like complete obsession with

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religion, seems to always be
unhealthy.

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Mmm, I guess that's just the way
you can't anything.

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You're addicted to is bad for
you, so it's true.

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But, you know, regardless Jenny
was trying to raise these kids

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and to God-fearing people to she
was very Stern, a little bit

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distant, overworked yourself,
you know, now, having three kids

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to raise and it wasn't like she
didn't care about Earl.

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But from a young age he was
definitely kind of troubled.

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He was really morbid, which is
weird for small kids.

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He was often hyper and very
depressed Harold.

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Schechter wrote about how he ate
like, an animal.

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And he would cover his food and
olive oil.

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And then dip his face into the
plate, and slurp it up like a

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dog, which his aunt and uncle
found disgusting.

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And they actually made fun of
him for it, which I would only

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expect, like, regardless even if
he's what, like, so he when he

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came into the household he was
what like a year old.

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So the one boy would have been
nine when he came in and the

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other girl like 11.
Okay.

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And so now this is like this
five year old.

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Who's like, we wrap it up food
at the table.

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Well, and if you do these 5,
that means the other boy is

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Almost like pretty teenagers.
Yeah.

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They're yeah.
They're both in their teenage

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years.
Yeah.

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So injures are harsh.
Okay.

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Yeah, I'll kids are.
But Earl never felt like he had

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siblings even though that's what
Jenny wanted for him.

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And I think that's really
important, too.

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Because our lovely Robert
wrestler wrote about serial

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killers, having a struggle to
bond, and make attachments early

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in their life and you have
children, and I work with

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children.
So, you know, that kids These

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are particularly vulnerable in
the way that they fall in love

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with everyone.
They meet, yes, you can take

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your kid on a walk around the
block and all of a sudden, like

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your neighbor, you never met
until just now is your best

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friend.
Like that's how they are.

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You know, I start every year
listen and a week later.

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I love you Miss Brittany and I'm
like oh that's very nice.

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Thank you listen these kids and
every time I take things like

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drive through McDonald's they
have to say hi.

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To the cashiers.
Every time I need to say hi.

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I need to say hi.
I was like you don't have to

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choose.
I want to.

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Yeah, I was at a restaurant with
my best friend, a couple weeks

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ago, we went to the guy that
really nice crab place over here

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the mall.
And there was a little kid

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sitting not far from us who
said, hi to literally everyone

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who walked by her.
Like, and the thing was, she was

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sitting there eating her shrimp,
her little fried Add a little

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clams or whatever was in her
little basket from her and she

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would stop.
Hi, hi, hi.

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Oh my God.
You know, that's just how

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children are and so That's the
norm kids are very trusting and

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open and sweet.
They are the best part of our

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society until Society, destroys
us, and we become grown-ups.

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But I just I can't imagine
meeting this like Sullen

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six-year-old with these like
intense mood swings or he goes

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from like, okay to like violence
who doesn't like?

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Anybody doesn't know how to make
any friends, has no like bonds

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with any of his family members,
like, that's who Talking about

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when we discuss Earl Nelson, as
a child, like he's hitting all

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the markers that are going to
make him a serial killer fairly

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soon.
Other weird things that happen

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when he was little.
He would leave home dressed for

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school and he will return home
and dirty but distinctly

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different clothing.
So, how was that?

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That's the question.
How is he finding kids close to

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that are dirty and worn?
Where are you getting these

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from?
Are you trading with is this a

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trade situation?
Like, you know, kids trade food

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at lunch?
Like, what is going on?

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Did you know?
I don't know.

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I don't get that.
Where do you get these articles

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from Sir?
Exactly.

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He also had a really, like I
said, he's a horrible, temper

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that violence a drop of a dime.
He would steal from, like, the

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local shops.
And his grandmother was like

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often called to deal with him.
Being detained for shoplifting.

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In fact, he got expelled from
the, it's a gosse's primary

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school before like second grade,
he was seven years old.

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Oh my God.
So that's also really hard to

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get.
I feel like it's hard to get

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expelled when you're that young.
Yeah, it's from the kind of just

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want to push you.
I've hit that he's got trouble

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forming bonds.
He's got this dogmatic, female

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figure.
What's the thing?

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He doesn't have yet Brian, his
head injury, where right?

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He's about to though because
what he's 11, he's showing off

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to the kids, in the neighborhood
on a bike that he got from his

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uncle and he's racing the the,
the trolley.

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And as he's going ahead of the
trolley, the trial, eclipses

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back wheel because the trolley
can't stop.

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Yeah, he crashes head first into
the ground, he spends the next

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week just in and out of
Consciousness.

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It takes two weeks for him to
even be like normal again.

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And of course, like we know,
head injuries, exacerbate,

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mental illness and serial
killers.

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So, this is the thing that was,
I believe, kind of like the

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beginning of this, is about to
go really mad Earl's grandmother

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dies.
When he is 14 years old and

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Aunt, Lillian feels bad for him
and she's like, you can come

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stay with me.
No discussion about will will,

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never, is there for this kid.
I realized that as I was going

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through my notes, we never hear
from Uncle.

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Ever again.
No dude.

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Oh wow.
Looks like you're weird and I

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don't like you, the peace out,
but by 14 early dropped out of

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school Lillian was 24 and she
genuinely cared for this kid

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even with all of his strangeness
but his psychotic behavior.

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Just got worse.
After the head injury, he would

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talk to people.
Nobody could see.

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He began obsessing over the
Bible and quoting verses he

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particularly was into Elation
Lillian discovered that when he

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came home and those dirty
clothes.

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Those were from homeless people.
From homeless children.

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No, I don't know about the
children time, but at least when

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he was 14 he was going like he
was taking the clothes of

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homeless people and maybe
leaving his clothes behind like

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there's so many questions here.
Like okay so I have a theory.

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Maybe he was grabbing third
dirty clothes from somebody's

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laundry.
That's a good idea.

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Maybe was just stealing stuff he
did like to steal.

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Yeah because yeah exactly.
So maybe you just walking by

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someone's Backyard is either
clothes hanging.

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Oh, gosh, even worse.
Like, the clothes aren't are

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like, he's like just reaching
into a window and grabbing a bag

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of dirty clothes.
Exactly.

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And just walking away with him.
I can imagine that that makes

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sense.
Yeah.

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But we're like, where else would
a chunky cool worn.

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But then again, I mean, this is
the time period people did a lot

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of hard labor.
So your clothes being worn is an

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uncommon especially as people
made their own clothes back

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then.
So like listen, if you made your

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own pants, you're wearing those
bad boys.

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Till they were holding.
This is true.

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Oh goodness.
Yes.

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But at 14 Earl out of school.
He's like all right I'm gonna

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try and work can't keep a job
like if he made it to a month

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that was impressive he wasn't
really fond of doing a lot of

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work.
He would something like say he

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like agreed to like work on like
a construction site for the day

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and make like a day rate.
Like even doing something as

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simple as like just being like a
carry and stuff from one side of

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the other random.
Do the day he would just be like

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I'm done.
No.

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Just walk off the job site and
never come back.

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I'll punch him so hard.
He also never grew out of his

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anger from his youth.
He was still very angry kid and

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even though Lillian loved him,
she was afraid of him.

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She gave a lot of like,
interviews after he got caught

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and she talked about how strange
he was when he was young.

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Like, now we get into another
aspect.

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Of serial killers, a lot of them
having really bizarre.

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Sexual urges at a young age?
Yeah, I believe you remember

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that.
That one who said that.

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It was his parents job to teach
him about sex.

453
00:26:47,700 --> 00:26:51,000
Oh, yeah, I'd denied him.
Oh my God, the joy of

454
00:26:51,000 --> 00:26:54,600
bisexuality and that they were
supposed to have manually

455
00:26:54,600 --> 00:26:57,800
stimulated him at six years old.
Yeah, that's how you do this.

456
00:26:57,900 --> 00:26:59,700
I told you that we were.
We, I do.

457
00:26:59,700 --> 00:27:01,200
Hope I have a whole bucket.
Yeah.

458
00:27:01,200 --> 00:27:02,000
Okay.
No.

459
00:27:02,000 --> 00:27:04,100
You told me that?
Yes, I did tell you about that

460
00:27:04,600 --> 00:27:06,000
because I remember hearing about
that.

461
00:27:06,000 --> 00:27:11,200
I was like, oh my God.
That was Herbert Mullin.

462
00:27:11,200 --> 00:27:17,500
I knew it was unfortunately,
that's also another thing that

463
00:27:17,500 --> 00:27:20,500
wrestler has noticed.
It's very common that serial

464
00:27:20,500 --> 00:27:24,300
killers have some level of
sexual dysfunction even if they

465
00:27:24,300 --> 00:27:30,100
are not Sexual killers.
They still struggle with the

466
00:27:30,100 --> 00:27:35,500
ability to be a regular person.
So Earl was a compulsive

467
00:27:35,500 --> 00:27:38,800
masturbator, and wrestler says
that 80% of the people, he

468
00:27:38,800 --> 00:27:41,000
profiled have a sexual
dysfunction of some kind.

469
00:27:42,100 --> 00:27:46,400
No, wait, hold on this.
Chronic masturbation caught all

470
00:27:46,400 --> 00:27:49,600
the time.
Really all the time.

471
00:27:50,600 --> 00:27:55,400
I'm sorry, fellows. and it's
really not good for you

472
00:27:55,400 --> 00:28:02,200
physically or emotionally to
rely on the endorphins that you

473
00:28:02,200 --> 00:28:05,600
are getting from said orgasm.
Hmm, in the same way that also,

474
00:28:06,100 --> 00:28:09,700
if you were compulsively having
sex with strangers, it's also

475
00:28:09,700 --> 00:28:12,600
not good for you, okay?
Because what the person is doing

476
00:28:12,600 --> 00:28:15,800
is they're getting high off of
the relief.

477
00:28:15,900 --> 00:28:19,900
What do you have just dailies?
Is it like want to tie it once a

478
00:28:19,900 --> 00:28:22,400
day or like four hours?
Every move is like, daily with

479
00:28:22,400 --> 00:28:24,600
your partner.
It's different usually.

480
00:28:24,600 --> 00:28:28,600
That's people, you know,
enriching their lives

481
00:28:29,100 --> 00:28:33,100
relationship but you could
absolutely Lutely be dating.

482
00:28:33,100 --> 00:28:35,400
Somebody who has a problem like
that.

483
00:28:36,800 --> 00:28:38,900
I think about that a lot with
Ted Bundy.

484
00:28:39,400 --> 00:28:43,300
He was able to carry on with
normal relationships, but he was

485
00:28:43,300 --> 00:28:45,100
definitely sexually
dysfunctional.

486
00:28:45,400 --> 00:28:48,200
Okay, yeah.
So he was able to fake the funk

487
00:28:48,200 --> 00:28:49,700
at least until he couldn't.
Yeah.

488
00:28:49,700 --> 00:28:52,400
And then you'll, yeah.
But he lost control and then he

489
00:28:52,400 --> 00:28:57,500
went on a spree, so yeah.
But uh, Earl on top of the

490
00:28:57,500 --> 00:29:00,000
compulsive masturbation star, he
daydreamed all the time.

491
00:29:00,000 --> 00:29:03,300
He lived in this, Fantasy world.
He was constantly like out of

492
00:29:03,300 --> 00:29:05,300
it.
He started visiting brothels

493
00:29:05,300 --> 00:29:09,400
when he was 15 years old near
the Fisherman's Wharf and there

494
00:29:09,400 --> 00:29:13,100
he contracted a venereal disease
150 year old it.

495
00:29:14,100 --> 00:29:18,800
Well he's always reported as
being a stocky guy and the a lot

496
00:29:18,800 --> 00:29:22,600
of pieces that he was tall too.
Now I know based on when I

497
00:29:22,600 --> 00:29:25,900
looked up that he's about 58, I
just don't know is 58 really

498
00:29:25,900 --> 00:29:30,500
tall in 1920 it might have been
because we are a taller people

499
00:29:30,500 --> 00:29:33,100
now.
They're 100 years ago, maybe

500
00:29:33,200 --> 00:29:35,200
maybe because you're taller than
he is.

501
00:29:35,200 --> 00:29:40,800
Yeah, but he every report was
like he's a tall stocky guy so

502
00:29:40,900 --> 00:29:43,300
he also started going to bars to
and they didn't check them there

503
00:29:43,300 --> 00:29:44,900
either.
Okay, Colonel is on it.

504
00:29:45,200 --> 00:29:50,100
Well, as we just now, there are
laws before I was like, you got

505
00:29:50,100 --> 00:29:52,100
money.
All right, we'll take your beer,

506
00:29:52,100 --> 00:29:55,800
take your patronage.
So he started going on these

507
00:29:55,800 --> 00:29:59,200
like a multi-day, Benders any
money.

508
00:29:59,200 --> 00:30:02,000
He didn't give his aunt to pay
his Like pay the bills or help

509
00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:05,500
with the house.
He would just drink and he would

510
00:30:05,500 --> 00:30:08,500
come back days later.
Just jacked up.

511
00:30:08,600 --> 00:30:13,200
Bruises bloody like he got in a
bunch of fights and there wasn't

512
00:30:13,200 --> 00:30:16,000
a whole lot that Lily could do.
Like she had two kids of her

513
00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:18,200
own.
She was very aware, that her

514
00:30:18,200 --> 00:30:22,700
nephew was mentally ill, but she
was just like, and listen,

515
00:30:22,700 --> 00:30:25,900
sometimes I good times, he used
to do all sorts of jokes and

516
00:30:25,900 --> 00:30:28,200
tricks and he would like, jump
around and he would like walk on

517
00:30:28,200 --> 00:30:31,700
his hands and make the kids
laugh and He would lift heavy

518
00:30:31,700 --> 00:30:34,000
object with his teeth, like he
was a sideshow free.

519
00:30:34,000 --> 00:30:37,200
Wow.
And one thing Lillian, another

520
00:30:37,200 --> 00:30:40,200
reason why she didn't kick him
out right away to is because he

521
00:30:40,200 --> 00:30:42,000
was making money.
She didn't know how he was

522
00:30:42,000 --> 00:30:44,900
making money.
She definitely had an idea that

523
00:30:44,900 --> 00:30:47,500
it was illegal.
He was making a lot of money and

524
00:30:47,500 --> 00:30:50,200
he was definitely able to help
the household that way.

525
00:30:50,400 --> 00:30:52,900
So, she really, especially cuz
he was gone for weeks at a time.

526
00:30:53,100 --> 00:30:56,300
Like, he'd stop by probably drop
off, like 20 bucks and then

527
00:30:56,300 --> 00:30:59,800
leave.
He's a mule some short, he had

528
00:30:59,800 --> 00:31:01,600
if I think so.
I think he was doing something

529
00:31:01,600 --> 00:31:05,900
with drugs.
So she was like, Like listen,

530
00:31:05,900 --> 00:31:13,200
you're always welcome here
whatevs, but then spring of 1915

531
00:31:13,800 --> 00:31:16,600
roll, Lisa's house to go on one
of his random walkabouts.

532
00:31:18,200 --> 00:31:23,000
He the older he got the more
Restless he was, he would just

533
00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:26,800
disappear for weeks and then not
they weren't always like the you

534
00:31:26,800 --> 00:31:29,600
know, Benders.
Sometimes he just wanted to be

535
00:31:29,600 --> 00:31:33,700
away and on this day, he was out
in the middle of the Wilderness

536
00:31:33,700 --> 00:31:35,100
and he broke into what he
thought.

537
00:31:35,200 --> 00:31:40,500
Thought was an abandoned cabin.
And he got surprised when the

538
00:31:40,500 --> 00:31:44,700
owner came back, he like fled
into the woods, but he got

539
00:31:44,900 --> 00:31:47,700
chased and caught open-and-shut
case.

540
00:31:47,800 --> 00:31:50,200
He was convicted of burglary
sentenced to two years in San

541
00:31:50,200 --> 00:31:54,800
Quentin prison.
And this definitely kind of fix

542
00:31:54,800 --> 00:31:58,100
the issue about Lily and being
worried about what he might do.

543
00:31:58,300 --> 00:32:03,000
Because he wasn't there for two
years, he spent that time with

544
00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:05,600
really no issues.
He emerged from jail, right?

545
00:32:05,600 --> 00:32:07,300
As America was being drawn in
the world.

546
00:32:07,400 --> 00:32:12,800
War one, he enlisted in the Army
as Earl Farrell, he probably

547
00:32:12,800 --> 00:32:16,600
realized the Army not for him.
So he went AWOL and headed to

548
00:32:16,600 --> 00:32:20,700
Salt Lake City, okay?
But you didn't like Utah.

549
00:32:20,800 --> 00:32:23,900
So he re-enlisted in the
military who does this time the

550
00:32:23,900 --> 00:32:30,300
Navy he was assigned as a cook
in San Francisco and just like

551
00:32:30,300 --> 00:32:33,500
every other job.
Quit, you know it.

552
00:32:33,500 --> 00:32:34,900
He went AWOL again after a
month.

553
00:32:35,000 --> 00:32:37,300
Oh my God.
He flooded from job to job.

554
00:32:37,400 --> 00:32:40,100
Job in the Bay Area, for about
two months before, enlisting in

555
00:32:40,100 --> 00:32:45,500
the military, again, as a
medical corpsman.

556
00:32:45,800 --> 00:32:49,700
Are you listening bag in?
He kept applying the different

557
00:32:49,700 --> 00:32:53,800
branches?
Come on.

558
00:32:53,900 --> 00:32:56,400
So he'd already gone AWOL from
the army that he wants the Navy.

559
00:32:56,400 --> 00:32:58,900
Then he left the Navy.
And he went back to the Army and

560
00:32:58,900 --> 00:33:01,100
he's like, ah, sorry y'all, I'm
back.

561
00:33:01,100 --> 00:33:03,900
I'm ready to be a soldier and
the military.

562
00:33:03,900 --> 00:33:08,400
He was there for like, a couple
of weeks and they were like, He

563
00:33:08,400 --> 00:33:15,700
needs to be evaluated by a
doctor God, so he was like,

564
00:33:15,700 --> 00:33:19,100
yeah, no, I'm good.
And he left again and this time,

565
00:33:19,100 --> 00:33:22,600
he went back to the military,
went back to the Navy and the

566
00:33:22,600 --> 00:33:25,500
Navy was like, we really need
people right now, you know,

567
00:33:25,500 --> 00:33:28,000
World War happening.
So they let him back into the

568
00:33:28,000 --> 00:33:30,500
Navy.
Wasn't there are forced to go to

569
00:33:30,500 --> 00:33:31,900
their Wares immediately take
you.

570
00:33:32,100 --> 00:33:35,400
Um, but like he was like I want
to be in the Navy but I don't

571
00:33:35,400 --> 00:33:40,000
want to work and he's Started
like prophesizing about the

572
00:33:40,000 --> 00:33:46,500
apocalypse while he was there
like on base and so they were

573
00:33:46,500 --> 00:33:51,700
like, we're gonna forcibly, take
him to the Napa state mental

574
00:33:51,700 --> 00:33:54,700
hospital and he is 21 at this
point.

575
00:33:55,900 --> 00:34:00,500
His intake interview is weird.
He's like, listen, I used to

576
00:34:00,500 --> 00:34:03,900
masturbate every day but I
stopped when I was 18.

577
00:34:04,700 --> 00:34:07,800
He's like, I am an alcoholic,
but I haven't had a drink in the

578
00:34:07,800 --> 00:34:10,600
last seven months.
Hmm, they do a blood test.

579
00:34:10,600 --> 00:34:13,900
They find that he has both
gonorrhea and syphilis know what

580
00:34:13,900 --> 00:34:16,300
she's gotten before he was even
16 years old.

581
00:34:17,199 --> 00:34:19,500
He's obsessed with God and the
Bible.

582
00:34:20,300 --> 00:34:25,300
And on top of that, he kept
trying to escape And he managed

583
00:34:25,300 --> 00:34:30,000
to do it twice. during the 13
months, he lived there, and he,

584
00:34:30,000 --> 00:34:34,100
but the Escape Escape attempts
were so frequent that other

585
00:34:34,100 --> 00:34:37,800
patients called him Houdini
Well, you didn't get away.

586
00:34:37,800 --> 00:34:42,400
Always on time, they're like, up
Houdini's at it again, my boy

587
00:34:42,400 --> 00:34:46,100
Houdini.
So the third time he escapes is

588
00:34:46,100 --> 00:34:50,400
in 1919 and at that point, I
think the hospital staff had had

589
00:34:50,400 --> 00:34:52,100
enough to get the hell out of
here.

590
00:34:52,199 --> 00:34:54,199
They're like, listen we're not
going to force him to stay here.

591
00:34:54,199 --> 00:34:58,100
We know the military says he has
to be here, but we're tired of

592
00:34:58,100 --> 00:35:01,300
having to chase him down
whenever he if someone leaves an

593
00:35:01,300 --> 00:35:04,400
open door, there's Earl riding
again.

594
00:35:04,400 --> 00:35:06,900
Thank God.
So they like pretty much just

595
00:35:06,900 --> 00:35:08,300
told him military.
Yeah.

596
00:35:08,300 --> 00:35:11,700
You should cut your losses with
this one and then the military

597
00:35:11,700 --> 00:35:15,100
discharge him.
And in his records it's wrote

598
00:35:15,300 --> 00:35:19,100
and quotations.
Improved improved.

599
00:35:19,300 --> 00:35:24,000
He had not improved by any, he
was still very violent

600
00:35:24,600 --> 00:35:27,700
destructive and heading right
towards homicidal.

601
00:35:28,500 --> 00:35:34,300
God shortly after his Escape, he
came back to on Lillian and she

602
00:35:34,300 --> 00:35:35,500
was like, I got discharged for
them.

603
00:35:35,700 --> 00:35:37,300
Terry.
And she's like, okay.

604
00:35:37,800 --> 00:35:39,800
And she's like, well, I can help
you get a job.

605
00:35:40,200 --> 00:35:44,200
So he became a janitor at st.
Mary's Hospital there he met the

606
00:35:44,200 --> 00:35:48,700
woman of his dreams.
Or the woman of his creepy

607
00:35:48,700 --> 00:35:52,700
fantasy because he met Mary
Martin, who was 58 years old and

608
00:35:52,700 --> 00:35:54,300
looked just like his
grandmother.

609
00:35:54,500 --> 00:35:59,400
Oh, so it's creepy fetish deed.
And Earl was in love.

610
00:36:00,200 --> 00:36:03,100
Uh-huh.
He almost immediately began

611
00:36:03,100 --> 00:36:07,000
talking to her about marriage
and Mary was like well here I

612
00:36:07,000 --> 00:36:09,000
am.
I'm 58.

613
00:36:09,200 --> 00:36:14,100
There's this attractive.
What like late 20s, young man.

614
00:36:14,300 --> 00:36:17,200
Who wants to be with me?
She's Trying to get her groove

615
00:36:17,200 --> 00:36:18,000
back.
Apparently.

616
00:36:18,000 --> 00:36:20,600
And so she accepts.
And we got nothing suspicious

617
00:36:20,600 --> 00:36:22,500
about this at all.
Listen.

618
00:36:23,700 --> 00:36:28,400
If like, somebody on Tick Tock
who looks like, they're like 21

619
00:36:28,400 --> 00:36:31,700
hits on me.
I'm like no, you are a child,

620
00:36:31,900 --> 00:36:34,300
Good-Bye Baby.
That's like, you are a baby.

621
00:36:34,600 --> 00:36:37,300
No, thank you.
I'm talking to him.

622
00:36:37,300 --> 00:36:40,400
He's, I'm like, sorry.
You look like a child actually.

623
00:36:40,400 --> 00:36:43,300
Someone recently, it was like,
28 years old, like sent me a

624
00:36:43,308 --> 00:36:49,200
message and I was just like, oh
no, thank you, I'm sorry.

625
00:36:50,400 --> 00:36:53,400
You indeed are an adult's.
You are a card-carrying adult

626
00:36:53,700 --> 00:36:59,700
but it still feels weird.
It's just as a personal thing

627
00:36:59,700 --> 00:37:01,600
for me.
If at any point I look back at

628
00:37:01,600 --> 00:37:03,300
my life and go.
Hmm.

629
00:37:03,500 --> 00:37:06,300
Like right now because it's
summertime a lot of our Summer

630
00:37:06,300 --> 00:37:10,100
Camp staff are teenagers.
So we like an 18 year old a 20

631
00:37:10,100 --> 00:37:13,700
year old a 22 year old like if
at any time I could sit and go

632
00:37:13,900 --> 00:37:18,500
oh like we talked about stuff
and like the other day a song

633
00:37:18,500 --> 00:37:20,800
came on the radio was a Justin
Timberlake song.

634
00:37:20,800 --> 00:37:22,300
Okay.
And so one of the little boys

635
00:37:22,300 --> 00:37:27,300
was like who made the song and
so by the one teachers Coast my

636
00:37:27,300 --> 00:37:29,900
age is like I'm not telling you
he went to all the other

637
00:37:29,900 --> 00:37:34,800
teachers and ask them and they
didn't know because they were

638
00:37:34,800 --> 00:37:37,900
all children.
When these songs came out I got

639
00:37:37,908 --> 00:37:41,000
it wasn't no Justin Timberlake.
Well okay so they didn't know

640
00:37:41,000 --> 00:37:44,500
Justin Timberlake The Way I Are
when he was with Timbaland.

641
00:37:44,500 --> 00:37:48,800
They know Justin Timberlake.
Now as this leg Soulful adult

642
00:37:48,800 --> 00:37:52,300
contemporary singer, they don't
know him like we knew him when

643
00:37:52,300 --> 00:37:56,400
he was you know, dirty path like
they don't know that era of

644
00:37:56,400 --> 00:38:00,600
Justin Lake.
So like if you don't know like

645
00:38:00,600 --> 00:38:03,500
if you can't Vibe with me on
that music I don't know if I can

646
00:38:03,500 --> 00:38:06,700
talk to you, like one of my
friends at work, loves One

647
00:38:06,700 --> 00:38:08,900
Direction.
She might even listen to this

648
00:38:09,500 --> 00:38:14,500
love, you Katie, but That's not
the same error of music that we

649
00:38:14,500 --> 00:38:18,700
were listening to when you were
a teenager listening to One

650
00:38:18,700 --> 00:38:23,500
Direction I was in college.
So yeah, like One Direction.

651
00:38:23,500 --> 00:38:25,000
Yeah.
That's remember helping my

652
00:38:25,000 --> 00:38:27,700
uncle.
Get a ticket for my 10 year old

653
00:38:27,700 --> 00:38:29,800
niece so she could see One
Direction my God.

654
00:38:29,800 --> 00:38:32,400
And I was in high school.
I was in college at this point.

655
00:38:32,600 --> 00:38:35,500
So that's just me personally, I
don't know what Mary was

656
00:38:35,500 --> 00:38:37,900
thinking about here.
Maybe she was just flattered by

657
00:38:37,900 --> 00:38:41,400
the attention of a younger man
when a younger man comes on

658
00:38:41,400 --> 00:38:44,200
comes at Me.
I'm like, yeah, sorry.

659
00:38:44,200 --> 00:38:48,400
Well, no, no, no sorry child.
No, thank you.

660
00:38:48,500 --> 00:38:54,200
You are children.
But Mary accepted his proposal

661
00:38:54,700 --> 00:38:56,400
and she was like, oh, that's
gonna be great.

662
00:38:56,400 --> 00:39:00,000
I got this youthful young, man,
I can be with what she didn't

663
00:39:00,000 --> 00:39:06,100
realize is that he was a mess
and he slipped right back into

664
00:39:06,100 --> 00:39:10,200
his bad behavior.
He was doing the thing where he

665
00:39:10,200 --> 00:39:14,700
would start out one day, wearing
clothes and come back wearing

666
00:39:14,700 --> 00:39:17,400
different clothes.
Only sometimes he would like, it

667
00:39:17,400 --> 00:39:19,100
would change entirely like some
day.

668
00:39:19,100 --> 00:39:21,100
He would come back and, like,
come back home.

669
00:39:21,600 --> 00:39:27,200
Like a sailor or like wearing
golf clothes and she's like, how

670
00:39:27,200 --> 00:39:30,500
did you what you still doing?
He's even here.

671
00:39:30,600 --> 00:39:32,700
Yeah, I think you're right.
I think you're just even, he

672
00:39:32,700 --> 00:39:36,700
started stealing Mary's dresses
and like, trying to craft very

673
00:39:36,700 --> 00:39:39,700
poorly made outfits out of them.
So he would like, steal the

674
00:39:39,700 --> 00:39:41,900
dress, but still try and turn it
into pants.

675
00:39:41,900 --> 00:39:44,600
Hey, I'm like, why are you
taking your girl's clothes?

676
00:39:44,700 --> 00:39:48,900
Yeah, if you get the curtains,
then he started refusing to

677
00:39:48,900 --> 00:39:52,800
bathe which worked opposite.
Sit of the whole sexual

678
00:39:52,800 --> 00:39:57,600
dysfunction issue because you
want her to have sex with you

679
00:39:57,600 --> 00:40:03,100
Earl but you smell bad so she
refused you see the problem here

680
00:40:03,100 --> 00:40:06,100
sir.
And so then he would like

681
00:40:06,300 --> 00:40:09,600
masturbate next to her in bed
and she was scandalized because

682
00:40:09,600 --> 00:40:12,700
she was a good Christian woman
and Catholics never masturbate.

683
00:40:13,300 --> 00:40:15,400
At least according to what I was
taught in Catholic.

684
00:40:15,400 --> 00:40:18,000
So you have sex, well, they're
married.

685
00:40:18,100 --> 00:40:20,400
Okay, but it was, I don't know,
you're not supposed to

686
00:40:20,400 --> 00:40:21,400
masturbate a quarter.
I listen.

687
00:40:21,600 --> 00:40:24,100
Remember this from high school
and we were confused then and

688
00:40:24,100 --> 00:40:27,200
I'm still confused about it.
I'll never understand y'all.

689
00:40:27,200 --> 00:40:29,900
It was some Bible verse about
how your seeds not supposed to

690
00:40:29,900 --> 00:40:33,200
hit the ground.
It doesn't hit a sock.

691
00:40:34,100 --> 00:40:38,300
It's a sock in his to tell, it's
whatever, whatever but we were

692
00:40:38,300 --> 00:40:40,300
told in high school, you're not
supposed to masturbate.

693
00:40:41,600 --> 00:40:45,600
Whatever.
And I will say this for Earl he

694
00:40:45,600 --> 00:40:49,300
was initially kind to marry his
love.

695
00:40:49,300 --> 00:40:53,400
However, did kind of shift into
some pretty unruly

696
00:40:53,400 --> 00:40:56,800
possessiveness jealousy.
He would get mad if she took a

697
00:40:56,800 --> 00:41:01,000
phone call from her brother, he
would hit walls or throw things.

698
00:41:01,000 --> 00:41:04,000
If he thought she had been like
too friendly to like the

699
00:41:04,000 --> 00:41:05,300
mailman.
Oh my God.

700
00:41:05,400 --> 00:41:08,300
And she's like, I just, I just
accepted the mail and was like,

701
00:41:08,300 --> 00:41:10,200
thank you.
Yeah, he's like, that's too

702
00:41:10,200 --> 00:41:11,200
much.
I said, thanks.

703
00:41:11,300 --> 00:41:13,000
For giving my mail not going
through it.

704
00:41:13,000 --> 00:41:19,100
God, you know, and having been
like, are very aggressive, like,

705
00:41:19,100 --> 00:41:22,900
a abusive relationship like
people do react that way.

706
00:41:22,900 --> 00:41:28,000
They're like, huh, yeah, that
smile was, you know, let him

707
00:41:28,000 --> 00:41:29,400
know.
He could come back and deliver

708
00:41:29,400 --> 00:41:32,900
his mail later.
Like it's bizarre tomorrow.

709
00:41:32,900 --> 00:41:34,300
Yeah.
If he is a package for me,

710
00:41:34,300 --> 00:41:35,900
please?
Yeah, I bet you want his

711
00:41:35,900 --> 00:41:37,500
package, don't you?
I want the package.

712
00:41:37,500 --> 00:41:39,300
I ordered.
That's exactly what that's like

713
00:41:39,300 --> 00:41:42,700
the weirdness.
That that, that that It's awful.

714
00:41:42,700 --> 00:41:48,900
But so it's probably no surprise
to you that he married a woman

715
00:41:48,900 --> 00:41:52,100
who look like his on, I'm his
grandmother and that would be

716
00:41:52,100 --> 00:41:54,400
the woman that he would.
The kind of women that he would

717
00:41:54,400 --> 00:41:57,400
kill at least in the beginning
before he come lost, complete

718
00:41:57,400 --> 00:42:01,400
control of everything.
It's very symbolic that that

719
00:42:01,700 --> 00:42:05,000
he's at this point.
He's only showing like the, like

720
00:42:05,000 --> 00:42:07,500
sexual predation.
He's not doing anything about

721
00:42:07,500 --> 00:42:11,500
these these desires yet, but
this, the symbolic Like the

722
00:42:11,500 --> 00:42:18,400
victimology here is a lot.
And for a small Time, Mary

723
00:42:19,500 --> 00:42:23,500
satisfied, his urges, I think
that were linked to this

724
00:42:23,500 --> 00:42:27,300
symbolism.
Those feelings about his, his

725
00:42:27,500 --> 00:42:30,700
mother figure.
But eventually he started, he

726
00:42:30,700 --> 00:42:34,200
looked elsewhere.
Earl began to have these

727
00:42:34,200 --> 00:42:37,000
migraines, that no one could
fix.

728
00:42:37,300 --> 00:42:39,700
And it happened.
He had one while he was at work,

729
00:42:40,400 --> 00:42:44,200
and he was on a ladder, and he
fell down and hit his head

730
00:42:44,200 --> 00:42:46,500
again, where he was knocked
unconscious.

731
00:42:46,500 --> 00:42:50,000
Double hit injury, double
homicide.

732
00:42:52,600 --> 00:42:57,800
Ha ha, ha, ha.
It happens all the time.

733
00:43:02,800 --> 00:43:04,500
Two days later, though.
He went back to work, he was

734
00:43:04,500 --> 00:43:07,700
like, I'm fine.
But it wasn't because he was

735
00:43:07,700 --> 00:43:10,400
seeing these persistent visions
and hearing voices that were

736
00:43:10,400 --> 00:43:13,500
religious.
He was more violent and paranoid

737
00:43:13,500 --> 00:43:15,900
with Mary.
And one day they got into like a

738
00:43:15,900 --> 00:43:19,800
regular fight, he got into first
started at the hospital, he got

739
00:43:19,800 --> 00:43:22,500
into an argument with somebody
at work and then he went home

740
00:43:22,500 --> 00:43:25,000
and he got into a fight with
Mary, about how he wanted to

741
00:43:25,000 --> 00:43:28,100
leave Palo Alto where they had
their house, but she was like,

742
00:43:28,100 --> 00:43:30,400
no, I'm not leaving my job, it's
a good job, it's fine.

743
00:43:30,600 --> 00:43:33,700
So he left without her.
And the next day he like came

744
00:43:33,700 --> 00:43:36,300
back.
He was like, no, no, I still

745
00:43:36,300 --> 00:43:38,600
want to be with you come back.
And she was like no, no, thank

746
00:43:38,600 --> 00:43:41,900
you which honestly probably
saved her life.

747
00:43:42,100 --> 00:43:43,700
Yeah.
That kept Mary from being the

748
00:43:43,700 --> 00:43:46,700
first, his first murder victim.
She walked out on me to hell.

749
00:43:47,400 --> 00:43:51,700
So our own set out to vent his
frustrations and anger on women.

750
00:43:52,400 --> 00:43:55,300
So he tried to jump right into
doing the murder thing.

751
00:43:55,300 --> 00:43:58,700
But he failed his first victim
was 12 and she was playing

752
00:43:58,700 --> 00:44:00,600
inside of her home and he saw
her through a window.

753
00:44:00,800 --> 00:44:04,300
So he pretended to be like Gasps
guy and he said that he had to

754
00:44:04,300 --> 00:44:07,900
come fix a gas leak and he
walked in and he like tried to

755
00:44:07,900 --> 00:44:11,400
strangle the little girl.
The brother, of course hurt her

756
00:44:11,800 --> 00:44:15,700
and was soon as he saw the other
man, he like, let the little

757
00:44:15,700 --> 00:44:18,800
girl go and he ran outside where
the brother chased him.

758
00:44:18,900 --> 00:44:22,400
They got into a fistfight, Earl
got one, good hidden and knock

759
00:44:22,400 --> 00:44:25,800
the guy down and then he took
off, police searched the whole

760
00:44:25,800 --> 00:44:30,500
area and two hours later they
found him on a trolley.

761
00:44:30,500 --> 00:44:33,100
Just sitting there pretending
like it happened.

762
00:44:34,300 --> 00:44:39,800
Well yeah, the mug shot after
that attack, he's jacked up.

763
00:44:40,300 --> 00:44:42,200
He's got scratches on his face
from the little girl.

764
00:44:42,200 --> 00:44:47,000
He took a couple face shots his
first night in prison.

765
00:44:47,000 --> 00:44:52,400
He like the guards are freaked
out because he is screaming

766
00:44:52,600 --> 00:44:56,200
about there being faces in the
walls and he is plucking out.

767
00:44:56,200 --> 00:45:02,800
His eyebrows by hand, they Mary
gets a phone call from the Leaf

768
00:45:02,800 --> 00:45:05,900
and they're like, your husband's
in jail but we're sending him to

769
00:45:05,900 --> 00:45:09,700
a hospital.
So, Mary arrives at the

770
00:45:09,700 --> 00:45:14,100
hospital, and he is strapped to
a bed in a straitjacket, crying

771
00:45:14,100 --> 00:45:17,600
and screaming about the faces.
He can see in the wall and

772
00:45:17,600 --> 00:45:21,700
Mary's, just like, oh wow, I
married someone who's really

773
00:45:21,700 --> 00:45:25,300
messed out.
Yep, also there at the hospital,

774
00:45:25,300 --> 00:45:27,900
she learned about him.
Leaving the military three times

775
00:45:27,900 --> 00:45:32,300
before getting discharged.
He told come back, please.

776
00:45:32,400 --> 00:45:36,600
He's but she decided she was
gonna stick with him and support

777
00:45:36,600 --> 00:45:39,500
him because he was going to be
involuntarily held at the

778
00:45:39,500 --> 00:45:42,100
hospital.
A month later.

779
00:45:42,500 --> 00:45:46,200
He's taken to trial and there
are psychiatrists who are like,

780
00:45:46,200 --> 00:45:49,000
well, we met with him, you know,
and he's kind of apathetic and

781
00:45:49,000 --> 00:45:53,100
eccentric than just, you know,
destructive and he has a hairpin

782
00:45:53,100 --> 00:45:55,100
trigger.
They're also like he's very

783
00:45:55,100 --> 00:45:58,100
dangerous and he's very
depressed and they like, we

784
00:45:58,100 --> 00:46:00,200
can't support releasing him to
his wife.

785
00:46:00,900 --> 00:46:03,900
Or to himself.
He's gonna hurt her or somebody

786
00:46:03,900 --> 00:46:06,000
else.
So the judge is like, oh, cool,

787
00:46:06,000 --> 00:46:07,400
absolutely.
I support with this.

788
00:46:07,400 --> 00:46:10,300
And so they file a commitment
order saying that he's dangerous

789
00:46:10,300 --> 00:46:12,800
to the public and they're going
to send him to a mental

790
00:46:12,800 --> 00:46:15,300
institution.
Unfortunately, they just didn't

791
00:46:15,300 --> 00:46:17,800
realize that they were sending
him to the same mental

792
00:46:17,800 --> 00:46:23,900
institution where he'd been and
escaped from three times, Napa

793
00:46:23,900 --> 00:46:28,100
State Hospital.
And now, but they diagnosed him

794
00:46:28,100 --> 00:46:31,700
with constitutional psychopathy
which with outbreaks of

795
00:46:31,700 --> 00:46:33,800
psychosis.
So, essentially they're saying

796
00:46:33,800 --> 00:46:37,000
that like, he has these
psychotic like these psychotic

797
00:46:37,000 --> 00:46:41,200
breaks but that ultimately, he
does know what's going on and he

798
00:46:41,200 --> 00:46:42,600
understands what's happening to
him.

799
00:46:42,900 --> 00:46:46,000
Unlike maybe someone who's a
paranoid schizophrenic who is

800
00:46:46,000 --> 00:46:49,400
fully enveloped in the fantasy
going on in their brain, right?

801
00:46:49,400 --> 00:46:54,300
Right.
They were aware of the escapes

802
00:46:54,300 --> 00:46:58,500
before that was still on his
record, so they decided that if

803
00:46:58,500 --> 00:47:03,300
he wasn't in his room that was
locked, he was going to be

804
00:47:03,300 --> 00:47:06,900
restrained.
And even then even while he was

805
00:47:06,900 --> 00:47:10,500
completely bound feet in hand,
he tried to run away twice the

806
00:47:10,500 --> 00:47:13,500
first week.
Oh, where's Hugo thing is buddy.

807
00:47:13,500 --> 00:47:14,900
What you do?
Like take like four steps of

808
00:47:14,900 --> 00:47:18,300
fall over.
Yeah, they put him on anti

809
00:47:18,300 --> 00:47:20,700
syphilis drug because I'm not,
anybody knows this.

810
00:47:20,700 --> 00:47:24,000
But when you have syphilis for a
Prolonged period of time it

811
00:47:24,000 --> 00:47:26,500
travels to your brain and it
begins.

812
00:47:26,500 --> 00:47:30,200
Wreaking havoc on your brain.
It mad cow disease, is your

813
00:47:30,200 --> 00:47:34,500
head, you don't eat it.
So the anti syphilis drug is

814
00:47:34,500 --> 00:47:36,400
supposed to slow that process
down.

815
00:47:37,100 --> 00:47:39,000
We didn't have Penicillin at the
time.

816
00:47:39,400 --> 00:47:42,900
So, we didn't know that that
could cure you, the drug is

817
00:47:42,900 --> 00:47:46,000
called slaver, sem, and it
improved him a little bit.

818
00:47:46,300 --> 00:47:49,000
The first year, he was really
Cooperative with his treatment.

819
00:47:49,000 --> 00:47:51,600
He showed he could do basic
tasks, talk to people normally.

820
00:47:52,300 --> 00:47:54,900
But he wouldn't let go of the
religious fixation and

821
00:47:54,900 --> 00:47:57,900
therefore, they were like, yeah,
we can't release you because

822
00:47:57,900 --> 00:47:59,800
you're still talking like a
creepy Christian.

823
00:48:01,800 --> 00:48:04,200
It was kind of short lived
though, at about the 18 month,

824
00:48:04,200 --> 00:48:08,900
Mark, where he was at Napa, his
medical records show that his

825
00:48:08,900 --> 00:48:12,200
behavior has shifted.
He was frequently agitated very

826
00:48:12,200 --> 00:48:15,400
sad, the words.
Quiet and Restless were used a

827
00:48:15,400 --> 00:48:19,900
lot in the documents.
Earl's started refusing his

828
00:48:19,900 --> 00:48:21,300
treatment.
Like he stopped taking the

829
00:48:21,300 --> 00:48:25,800
syphilis drug and he even told
doctors, yeah, I'm gonna leave

830
00:48:25,800 --> 00:48:30,300
soon and on November 2nd 1923
that's what he did.

831
00:48:31,500 --> 00:48:34,100
He showed up at his aunt
lilian's house in the middle of

832
00:48:34,100 --> 00:48:37,400
the night.
This is a direct quote from the

833
00:48:37,400 --> 00:48:40,600
local San Francisco newspaper.
He had his face right against

834
00:48:40,600 --> 00:48:42,600
the glass with a horrible crazy
hat on.

835
00:48:42,900 --> 00:48:45,500
And I let out a terrible scream
because he looked awfully

836
00:48:45,500 --> 00:48:48,200
insane.
His eyes were just black glaring

837
00:48:48,200 --> 00:48:50,900
at me and the children rushed up
to me and of course I opened the

838
00:48:50,908 --> 00:48:54,200
door because he was my own flesh
and can and I loved him.

839
00:48:54,800 --> 00:48:57,700
Well Ian gave him some clothes
from her husband's closet, but

840
00:48:57,700 --> 00:49:00,300
she told him, oh, it's probably
not safe for you to be here

841
00:49:00,500 --> 00:49:03,700
because the hospital knows.
I'm your only next of kin and he

842
00:49:03,700 --> 00:49:06,800
was like, yeah, you're right.
And he ran off into the

843
00:49:06,808 --> 00:49:09,500
darkness.
My God, Lillian immediately

844
00:49:09,500 --> 00:49:13,400
calls the police and at the
hospital and tells them Earl was

845
00:49:13,400 --> 00:49:15,800
just here.
They gets picked up on the

846
00:49:15,808 --> 00:49:18,000
street by police.
Two days later they take him

847
00:49:18,000 --> 00:49:20,000
back to Napa.
He's there for another 16

848
00:49:20,000 --> 00:49:22,100
months.
At that point, there aren't that

849
00:49:22,100 --> 00:49:24,200
many entries into his medical
records.

850
00:49:24,600 --> 00:49:28,400
Other than a final note that
says, discharged and improved.

851
00:49:31,200 --> 00:49:35,000
Earl convinces, Mary, he's been
cured and she takes them back in

852
00:49:35,700 --> 00:49:38,600
with a couple weeks and he
starts wandering off again.

853
00:49:39,600 --> 00:49:42,500
His first official victim is
Claire Newman.

854
00:49:42,900 --> 00:49:45,700
She's 62 years old.
She operated several boarding

855
00:49:45,700 --> 00:49:49,400
houses in San Francisco.
She was actually like an awesome

856
00:49:49,400 --> 00:49:51,100
business lady.
She had properties on the east

857
00:49:51,100 --> 00:49:53,300
coast.
To, I don't know how you managed

858
00:49:53,300 --> 00:49:57,500
to operate multiple properties.
With just your phone, she

859
00:49:57,500 --> 00:49:59,300
couldn't like take a plane and
go visit.

860
00:49:59,400 --> 00:50:02,300
Visit, you don't go but she was
doing and she had family out

861
00:50:02,300 --> 00:50:04,600
there to help her.
She was known for being very

862
00:50:04,600 --> 00:50:06,800
Stern with her borders.
She kept a tidy Place.

863
00:50:07,200 --> 00:50:11,300
Took no Guff.
She's like she the main thing

864
00:50:11,300 --> 00:50:14,200
she asked you.
When you came was a, are you a

865
00:50:14,200 --> 00:50:16,000
sailor?
Do you drink?

866
00:50:16,400 --> 00:50:18,400
She didn't want any Sailors are
drunkards and at home.

867
00:50:18,400 --> 00:50:22,300
Well, good thing.
He's, he quit being so well

868
00:50:22,300 --> 00:50:25,300
shortly after she put a sign up
in one of the windows saying

869
00:50:25,300 --> 00:50:28,500
that there was a vacancy in the
home that she stayed in Rome

870
00:50:28,500 --> 00:50:31,300
Nelson showed up.
Dressed in a suit, and he asked

871
00:50:31,300 --> 00:50:34,200
her about the sign.
He gave her a fake name and she

872
00:50:34,200 --> 00:50:39,200
let him, it was a quiet,
February day, very cold, and

873
00:50:39,200 --> 00:50:40,800
Earl, didn't have any idea if
she was alone.

874
00:50:40,800 --> 00:50:44,500
In fact, Claire, his nephew had
just returned after dropping off

875
00:50:44,500 --> 00:50:47,800
his wife and daughter to go to
the store and to see a movie,

876
00:50:48,300 --> 00:50:52,200
his name was Martin Newman and a
short while later he came

877
00:50:52,200 --> 00:50:54,100
downstairs to check on the
furnace.

878
00:50:54,500 --> 00:50:57,700
And he saw that there was food
on the stove in the kitchen.

879
00:50:58,400 --> 00:51:01,800
And it was still like Like hot.
Like the grease was still in the

880
00:51:01,800 --> 00:51:07,200
pan.
And he saw Earl Nelson putting

881
00:51:07,200 --> 00:51:10,000
his hat on and leaving and
Merton was like hey what are you

882
00:51:10,000 --> 00:51:12,900
doing here?
And URLs like tell the landlady,

883
00:51:12,900 --> 00:51:16,200
I'll return an hour.
I wish to rent the bedroom and

884
00:51:16,200 --> 00:51:19,400
he turned and he left and Merton
was like that's weird and he

885
00:51:19,400 --> 00:51:21,900
went to the door but Earl was
already gone when he looked

886
00:51:21,900 --> 00:51:23,100
outside.
Hey, mr.

887
00:51:23,100 --> 00:51:27,100
An I think so too, myrn worked
on the furnace, went back

888
00:51:27,100 --> 00:51:30,400
upstairs to do his own chores.
And several hours later, he came

889
00:51:30,400 --> 00:51:34,200
back down to see that the food
on the stove was, Still there.

890
00:51:34,400 --> 00:51:36,900
But now it was like cold and
like the Greece had turned, you

891
00:51:36,900 --> 00:51:40,600
know, that white solidified
color and he asked the other

892
00:51:40,600 --> 00:51:44,900
residents like hey if you see my
aunt and they're like, no, so

893
00:51:44,900 --> 00:51:47,800
they all begin searching the
whole house, they find Clara's

894
00:51:47,800 --> 00:51:51,400
body, there's lots of reports
about it, but that she was found

895
00:51:51,400 --> 00:51:53,600
in the bathroom, she was on the
toilet.

896
00:51:54,400 --> 00:51:56,400
The one that makes the most
sense is that she was found

897
00:51:56,400 --> 00:52:00,800
inside the vacant apartment.
Her clothing was pulled up to

898
00:52:00,800 --> 00:52:03,300
her waist indicating that there
was a sexual assault.

899
00:52:03,500 --> 00:52:07,600
And she had been strangled but
she hadn't been violated while

900
00:52:07,600 --> 00:52:12,100
she was alive.
It was always afterward.

901
00:52:12,900 --> 00:52:16,800
That was only included in the
autopsy report and not initially

902
00:52:16,800 --> 00:52:20,900
released to the public.
Two weeks later a second woman

903
00:52:20,900 --> 00:52:22,900
in San Jose.
Her name Laura Beal.

904
00:52:22,900 --> 00:52:26,000
She's killed in the same manner.
She was also older, she was a

905
00:52:26,000 --> 00:52:29,300
rooming house manager, her
husband returned home and found

906
00:52:29,300 --> 00:52:31,700
her missing.
He gathered all the people in

907
00:52:31,700 --> 00:52:34,700
the house and they all searched
everywhere they found her nude,

908
00:52:34,700 --> 00:52:36,900
from the waist down in the
vacant apartment.

909
00:52:37,400 --> 00:52:41,000
She'll also been strangled with
the silk Belt from her housecoat

910
00:52:41,700 --> 00:52:43,800
pulled so tightly.
It cut into her skin.

911
00:52:45,600 --> 00:52:50,000
You're also violated postmortem,
the newspapers were very quickly

912
00:52:50,000 --> 00:52:54,000
like well, you know, there's two
women who were all killed at

913
00:52:54,000 --> 00:52:57,300
rooming houses.
This is a pattern coincidence.

914
00:52:57,300 --> 00:53:00,500
They're like this is seems like
the same guys doing all that.

915
00:53:00,600 --> 00:53:06,700
Hmm, police get, loads of tips.
No leads found though.

916
00:53:07,200 --> 00:53:11,800
All they have is Merle Newman's
Martin Newman's description, his

917
00:53:11,800 --> 00:53:16,800
tall tan white man, With a suit
on and a hat.

918
00:53:17,100 --> 00:53:23,600
Another woman had seen a
sallow-faced man leaving the

919
00:53:23,600 --> 00:53:27,800
beal house, but that was it.
And so the Bay Area named him,

920
00:53:27,800 --> 00:53:32,600
the dark Strangler, and it was
Sensational for a little bit,

921
00:53:34,200 --> 00:53:37,500
and I forgot about him.
The police were like, well, he

922
00:53:37,500 --> 00:53:40,200
hasn't struck again.
So I guess he's moved on.

923
00:53:40,200 --> 00:53:43,500
I guess, he's gone.
Because that was February.

924
00:53:43,500 --> 00:53:46,600
Hmm, next murder happens.
June 26.

925
00:53:46,900 --> 00:53:50,300
He meets Lillian St.
Mary and you're going to notice

926
00:53:50,300 --> 00:53:57,500
this, but so many of these
victims are named Mary Jenny.

927
00:53:58,700 --> 00:54:01,200
Hmm, I don't know if that's on
purpose.

928
00:54:01,200 --> 00:54:03,400
Did he walk from boarding room?
Boarding, house to boarding

929
00:54:03,400 --> 00:54:05,700
house until he found someone who
had a name.

930
00:54:05,700 --> 00:54:08,000
Similar to his wife or his
grandmother.

931
00:54:09,200 --> 00:54:12,200
He's weird.
Anyway, my name is Lillian say

932
00:54:12,200 --> 00:54:16,300
Mary and he found her through
the classified ads, she was a

933
00:54:16,300 --> 00:54:20,200
widow and she had been taking in
boarders to supplement.

934
00:54:20,200 --> 00:54:23,800
Her income at her house, Earl
came to look at the vacancies

935
00:54:23,800 --> 00:54:27,200
and as soon as they were in an
empty room he attacked her there

936
00:54:27,200 --> 00:54:29,000
were other borders in this house
though.

937
00:54:29,400 --> 00:54:32,100
That they said they'd never
heard anything and they only

938
00:54:32,100 --> 00:54:35,500
stopped to even look at the
apartment because it was still

939
00:54:35,500 --> 00:54:38,300
open, hmm.
When that guy.

940
00:54:38,400 --> 00:54:41,000
Why found mrs.
Saint Mary on the bad.

941
00:54:41,000 --> 00:54:43,000
Her clothes were torn.
Her legs are open.

942
00:54:43,500 --> 00:54:46,200
Autopsy showed that while he was
choking her.

943
00:54:46,200 --> 00:54:50,500
He had sat his entire weight on
her chest so insult to injury in

944
00:54:50,500 --> 00:54:51,600
Crusher.
Yeah.

945
00:54:53,300 --> 00:54:57,200
After assaulting her corpse he
neatly folded up her coat and

946
00:54:57,200 --> 00:54:59,300
hat and sat next to her on the
bed.

947
00:54:59,600 --> 00:55:02,300
She had actually been getting
ready to leave when he saw when

948
00:55:02,600 --> 00:55:06,500
he came in and he left so
quietly that the man who lived

949
00:55:06,500 --> 00:55:08,300
below that apartment heard
nothing.

950
00:55:08,500 --> 00:55:10,100
Not even footsteps, that's
crazy.

951
00:55:12,000 --> 00:55:15,100
So, police definitely do, it was
the same guy, but you can't do a

952
00:55:15,100 --> 00:55:18,500
whole lot with a description, in
San Francisco of tall white guy.

953
00:55:20,700 --> 00:55:24,100
So this time, a trolley
conductor had seen a big man

954
00:55:24,100 --> 00:55:26,500
acting weird near, the Saint
Mary's house.

955
00:55:27,000 --> 00:55:30,400
The Press were like he slips in
and out of the houses, like a

956
00:55:30,400 --> 00:55:33,300
specter, like, a ghost, why
Channel?

957
00:55:33,300 --> 00:55:35,400
And, like I said, I think it's
funny because it's not that he

958
00:55:35,400 --> 00:55:37,000
was particularly incredible at
murder.

959
00:55:37,200 --> 00:55:39,800
He was just easily forgettable
and unassuming.

960
00:55:40,100 --> 00:55:44,200
He was a Big white guy, he
wasn't particularly attractive

961
00:55:44,200 --> 00:55:47,800
or hideous.
He wasn't overly tall or short.

962
00:55:48,700 --> 00:55:53,100
He was just regular and because
he was regular nobody noticed

963
00:55:53,100 --> 00:55:56,800
him very unassuming.
The police.

964
00:55:56,800 --> 00:56:00,000
However, in San Francisco were
like, listen, I'm gonna need

965
00:56:00,000 --> 00:56:02,500
y'all to stop just accepting
people into your houses.

966
00:56:02,500 --> 00:56:05,500
I know y'all are trying to make
money but like, can you not do

967
00:56:05,500 --> 00:56:09,400
that for two months?
Nothing happens.

968
00:56:09,900 --> 00:56:11,900
Everybody in California.
Kind of breathes, a sigh of

969
00:56:11,900 --> 00:56:15,800
relief which is exactly what
needed to happen for him to

970
00:56:15,800 --> 00:56:18,700
strike again, of course.
Next time wave happens in Santa

971
00:56:18,700 --> 00:56:21,700
Barbara, which is six miles
south of San Francisco.

972
00:56:22,600 --> 00:56:25,500
Santa Barbara, like a now, it's
still a very beautiful beach

973
00:56:25,500 --> 00:56:29,800
town, but in the 1920s, it was a
very, very small Resort town,

974
00:56:30,000 --> 00:56:33,200
full of Travelers, transient
people and boarding houses.

975
00:56:34,600 --> 00:56:36,200
So it was the perfect place for
him to do.

976
00:56:36,200 --> 00:56:40,000
What he does.
His next victim is Ali Russell,

977
00:56:40,000 --> 00:56:43,300
she's 53.
She lived with her husband and I

978
00:56:43,308 --> 00:56:46,200
was slightly older house.
One of the borders woke up in

979
00:56:46,200 --> 00:56:49,000
the middle of the night to hear
a banging coming from next door.

980
00:56:49,400 --> 00:56:52,000
There was a door that separated
their room, kind of like, in a

981
00:56:52,000 --> 00:56:54,400
hotel.
Those like, when a room shares,

982
00:56:54,400 --> 00:56:56,500
conjoining you.
And so, he decides to look

983
00:56:56,500 --> 00:57:02,200
through the keyhole and he sees
man thrusting into a woman kind

984
00:57:02,200 --> 00:57:05,100
of embarrassed.
His name was William Franny.

985
00:57:05,100 --> 00:57:07,200
He's like oh I should like not
look.

986
00:57:07,200 --> 00:57:11,500
Yeah, but like he gets curious
and then he looks again.

987
00:57:11,900 --> 00:57:15,400
He sees the man's wearing like a
dingy gray suit and the more he

988
00:57:15,400 --> 00:57:19,900
looks at it, he's like that.
Looks like Ali my landlady.

989
00:57:19,900 --> 00:57:22,400
Huh.
So he watches as the man gets

990
00:57:22,400 --> 00:57:25,700
dressed puts on his hat and
leaves the room, he hears the

991
00:57:25,700 --> 00:57:29,500
hallway, door closed, the steps,
go downstairs and then as he's

992
00:57:29,500 --> 00:57:32,400
watching, he's like is that
blood on the bed?

993
00:57:33,300 --> 00:57:37,400
So he goes to find mr.
Russell and the two men

994
00:57:37,400 --> 00:57:40,300
returned, they open the door and
they find that Ali is actually

995
00:57:40,300 --> 00:57:42,800
beaten pretty badly.
So at some point she must have

996
00:57:42,800 --> 00:57:45,100
fought back.
She'd been hit in the face

997
00:57:45,100 --> 00:57:49,400
before she was strangled cord
was pulled around her neck to

998
00:57:49,400 --> 00:57:51,700
the point that he had cut into
her skin and that's why there

999
00:57:51,700 --> 00:57:55,100
was blood.
This was the first time that the

1000
00:57:55,100 --> 00:57:58,000
police just said whatever he's a
necrophiliac just letting you

1001
00:57:58,000 --> 00:58:00,700
know.
Thanks, thanks for that.

1002
00:58:00,800 --> 00:58:04,100
This is what he's been doing.
Next, kill happens in Oakland

1003
00:58:04,100 --> 00:58:06,200
California.
So now we're back up, north

1004
00:58:07,900 --> 00:58:12,000
Steven, Nesbitt returns home on
June, 26, his wife had started

1005
00:58:12,000 --> 00:58:14,400
dinner, but everything was
sitting on the counter.

1006
00:58:14,800 --> 00:58:17,800
Her purse was even still in her
bedroom, so, he waits for a

1007
00:58:17,800 --> 00:58:20,700
little bit and when she doesn't
come home after like an hour or

1008
00:58:20,700 --> 00:58:24,100
two, he organizes the late, the
neighbors to look for her

1009
00:58:24,800 --> 00:58:32,300
Stephen being aware of the news.
Assumes the worst and he was

1010
00:58:32,300 --> 00:58:34,400
right.
And one of the empty units.

1011
00:58:34,400 --> 00:58:36,900
On the second floor of the home,
they found Mary.

1012
00:58:37,400 --> 00:58:40,200
She was the most abuse victims
so far.

1013
00:58:40,800 --> 00:58:43,500
She had been suffocated by a
dish towel that she must have

1014
00:58:43,500 --> 00:58:45,800
had with her.
Her head had been slammed into

1015
00:58:45,800 --> 00:58:50,000
the floor, the tile on the floor
with such force that some of her

1016
00:58:50,000 --> 00:58:53,900
teeth were on the ground.
They said that there was blood

1017
00:58:53,900 --> 00:58:56,700
on every surface.
He had strangled her with such

1018
00:58:56,700 --> 00:58:59,300
force that that same dish
challenge. cute must have pulled

1019
00:58:59,300 --> 00:59:02,400
out of her mouth and wrapped it
around her neck and I ripped

1020
00:59:02,600 --> 00:59:08,200
while he was strangling her, In
Portland, he's heading north

1021
00:59:08,200 --> 00:59:12,600
again, October 19, betta
Withers, she's 30-something and

1022
00:59:12,600 --> 00:59:14,900
divorced.
She's a 15 year old son.

1023
00:59:15,200 --> 00:59:18,400
They find her murdered in the
Attic of the boarding home.

1024
00:59:19,200 --> 00:59:21,800
He had stuffed her body inside
of a trunk.

1025
00:59:23,900 --> 00:59:26,700
Two days later.
Virginia Grant is found dead and

1026
00:59:26,700 --> 00:59:29,300
stuffed inside of her furnace in
the basement.

1027
00:59:29,500 --> 00:59:33,800
She had been strangled assaulted
after death and he had stolen

1028
00:59:33,800 --> 00:59:36,000
some stuff from her including
money.

1029
00:59:36,000 --> 00:59:40,700
He's just upgrading after every
time a few days.

1030
00:59:40,700 --> 00:59:44,100
After that, Mabel fluke is found
strangled in The Salted, he'd

1031
00:59:44,100 --> 00:59:48,200
hidden her in the crawl, space
in the Attic of her home and

1032
00:59:48,200 --> 00:59:51,200
this little spree was a definite
shift in our own behavior first.

1033
00:59:51,200 --> 00:59:54,200
The crimes were more violent
while the women were Live.

1034
00:59:54,200 --> 00:59:56,600
They were happening in faster
and faster secession.

1035
00:59:56,800 --> 01:00:00,100
Now he was trying to hide the
bodies and anybody who's watched

1036
01:00:00,100 --> 01:00:04,200
enough Criminal Minds knows that
the The Hiding aspect of this is

1037
01:00:04,200 --> 01:00:07,400
either a forensic countermeasure
or it's a sign of shame or you

1038
01:00:07,400 --> 01:00:10,600
guilty you feel guilty about
doing what you're doing.

1039
01:00:10,600 --> 01:00:13,200
The the feeling of Shame doesn't
match him.

1040
01:00:13,400 --> 01:00:17,500
He didn't seem to care before I
think for me I think it's more

1041
01:00:17,500 --> 01:00:20,700
of the forensic countermeasure.
He was trying to give himself a

1042
01:00:21,900 --> 01:00:26,300
Chance to get away but none of
these hiding spaces were good

1043
01:00:26,600 --> 01:00:29,800
because they still found the
lady within hours of her death.

1044
01:00:31,600 --> 01:00:34,200
He briefly stops in San
Francisco and murders.

1045
01:00:34,200 --> 01:00:37,000
A 56 year old woman, Anna.
Edmonds on November. 20 on

1046
01:00:37,000 --> 01:00:39,900
November 18th.
The police weren't originally

1047
01:00:39,900 --> 01:00:43,200
sure it was him.
And then one of Anna's friends

1048
01:00:43,200 --> 01:00:46,800
was, like, I saw her talking to
this tall, man, who asked her,

1049
01:00:46,800 --> 01:00:51,400
if he could buy her house
November, 19th day later

1050
01:00:51,400 --> 01:00:55,500
Burlington, California 28 year
old pregnant woman is attacked

1051
01:00:55,500 --> 01:00:57,600
while showing her home to a
potential buyer.

1052
01:00:58,400 --> 01:01:01,100
She survives the attack and
gives the best description to

1053
01:01:01,100 --> 01:01:04,700
the Police yet, she's like he's
58 well-dressed, well-spoken.

1054
01:01:04,700 --> 01:01:08,200
He gives off no creepy Vibes.
He commented on the molding of

1055
01:01:08,200 --> 01:01:12,800
the ceiling in her leg setting
area, to get her to look up, so

1056
01:01:12,800 --> 01:01:14,500
he could catch her off guard and
Rubberneck.

1057
01:01:16,000 --> 01:01:17,800
Couple days later.
November 23rd, he murders

1058
01:01:17,800 --> 01:01:20,900
Florence monks, in Seattle
still, some of her jewelry, and

1059
01:01:20,900 --> 01:01:24,300
he tries to pawn it.
That doesn't work, so he gives

1060
01:01:24,300 --> 01:01:27,000
it to the women and the boarding
house he's staying in.

1061
01:01:28,600 --> 01:01:32,300
Gross, disgusting.
Ten days later, November 29th?

1062
01:01:32,600 --> 01:01:36,400
He murders Blanche Myers.
In Portland, Portland.

1063
01:01:36,400 --> 01:01:40,500
Police just said, listen, stop
showing your houses to strange,

1064
01:01:40,500 --> 01:01:43,400
man.
And if there are any men around,

1065
01:01:43,400 --> 01:01:47,000
call the police and we will be
there when your tenant comes to

1066
01:01:47,000 --> 01:01:49,500
look at the property hurt.
You know, just get one of your

1067
01:01:49,500 --> 01:01:53,000
male friends to help you out two
days.

1068
01:01:53,000 --> 01:01:55,900
After Christmas, Bonnie pace of
Kansas City.

1069
01:01:55,900 --> 01:01:58,000
Missouri is strangled to death
in her home.

1070
01:01:58,400 --> 01:02:01,900
December 28th, dramani, a harpin
and her eight month old son.

1071
01:02:01,900 --> 01:02:05,100
Robert are found in there.
Kansas City home, both were

1072
01:02:05,107 --> 01:02:08,500
strangled, and I'll leave those
details for folks who want to

1073
01:02:08,500 --> 01:02:10,700
Google her husband.
Found them.

1074
01:02:10,700 --> 01:02:15,400
When he came home from work,
just awful, that's a terrible.

1075
01:02:15,400 --> 01:02:17,500
Yeah, terrible.
Terrible sight by the end of

1076
01:02:17,500 --> 01:02:21,400
1926.
He's murdered 14 women and he's

1077
01:02:21,400 --> 01:02:23,300
seems like he's heading towards
Canada.

1078
01:02:25,500 --> 01:02:30,700
Also on December 23rd, the body
of almora Berard was found and

1079
01:02:30,700 --> 01:02:35,700
at Council Bluffs home in Iowa.
So I think that's because it's

1080
01:02:35,700 --> 01:02:38,700
two days after Christmas was the
next one hour ago.

1081
01:02:38,700 --> 01:02:44,200
So, yeah, that's his next attack
isn't until April 27th where

1082
01:02:44,200 --> 01:02:48,100
he's in Philadelphia and he
murders Mary McConnell.

1083
01:02:48,900 --> 01:02:50,800
He robbed her and tried to pawn
her jewelry.

1084
01:02:50,800 --> 01:02:54,300
Nobody wanted it.
On his way, North from

1085
01:02:54,300 --> 01:02:57,100
Philadelphia, he murders 53.
Year old Jenny Randolph, in

1086
01:02:57,100 --> 01:03:01,500
Buffalo New York, on May 27th,
she's found under a bed in her

1087
01:03:01,500 --> 01:03:03,700
building.
Three days later he had

1088
01:03:03,700 --> 01:03:07,500
introduced himself as Charles
Harrelson to Randolph's brother,

1089
01:03:07,700 --> 01:03:10,400
and the brother and other
borders, confirmed that he was

1090
01:03:10,400 --> 01:03:14,000
the same guy, June 1st.
He's in Detroit, Michigan

1091
01:03:14,800 --> 01:03:18,000
boarding, house manager, Fannie,
Mae, and Border Marine.

1092
01:03:18,400 --> 01:03:22,100
Atrophy are both killed.
Their bodies were found by the

1093
01:03:22,100 --> 01:03:24,800
building manager ER, who came to
collect the rent.

1094
01:03:26,000 --> 01:03:29,100
June 3rd.
He murdered Mary caecilius

1095
01:03:29,100 --> 01:03:32,800
seats, mama and Chicago.
He also stole men's clothing

1096
01:03:32,800 --> 01:03:35,700
from her home.
Finally, he makes his way to

1097
01:03:35,700 --> 01:03:40,600
Canada.
And Canada is where he will, not

1098
01:03:40,700 --> 01:03:42,500
he dies in Canada, right?
Okay.

1099
01:03:43,900 --> 01:03:47,300
He made his way to Winnipeg
where he stops at a secondhand

1100
01:03:47,300 --> 01:03:50,000
store and he likes cells off,
some of that jewelry and all of

1101
01:03:50,000 --> 01:03:55,900
his fancy clothes for workman's
clothing and just cash in town.

1102
01:03:55,900 --> 01:03:59,400
He met 14 year old Willa Cohen
and they believe that was on

1103
01:03:59,400 --> 01:04:01,100
June 8th.
She was out.

1104
01:04:01,100 --> 01:04:03,300
Selling paper flowers.
Door-to-door to help her family

1105
01:04:03,300 --> 01:04:04,800
as her.
Father was recovering from

1106
01:04:04,800 --> 01:04:07,200
pneumonia.
No, one ever saw.

1107
01:04:07,400 --> 01:04:11,000
Earl was Lola, but he must have
somehow talked to the coming

1108
01:04:11,000 --> 01:04:13,700
back to the boarding house.
He was staying in because they

1109
01:04:13,700 --> 01:04:16,300
found her body there.
Several days later.

1110
01:04:18,900 --> 01:04:21,600
Now he was staying at this
woman, her name is Katherine

1111
01:04:21,600 --> 01:04:22,700
Hill.
Her boarding house with the

1112
01:04:22,700 --> 01:04:26,100
money that he had gotten.
He'd also stolen money from a

1113
01:04:26,100 --> 01:04:28,400
second crime.
He did in Winnipeg.

1114
01:04:28,700 --> 01:04:32,200
He had broken into the house of
Emily Patterson and he murdered

1115
01:04:32,200 --> 01:04:34,300
her two days.
After he killed Willa Cohen

1116
01:04:35,200 --> 01:04:36,900
Emily.
Had been bludgeoned to death

1117
01:04:36,900 --> 01:04:39,100
with a claw hammer and stuffed
under her bed.

1118
01:04:39,300 --> 01:04:42,000
And there's this absolutely
tragic story where her husband

1119
01:04:42,000 --> 01:04:44,100
is.
Like, I prayed to God that,

1120
01:04:44,100 --> 01:04:48,000
like, God would show me where
Mary was and then like, as he

1121
01:04:48,000 --> 01:04:52,300
was standing, Up from bed.
He like, accidentally moved the

1122
01:04:52,300 --> 01:04:54,700
blanket.
And he saw his wife's favorite

1123
01:04:54,700 --> 01:04:58,100
sweater and realized that it was
her under the bed.

1124
01:04:58,100 --> 01:05:02,900
Yeah, it's terrible.
Wait, a peg is in total chaos.

1125
01:05:04,100 --> 01:05:07,800
The police are like this Anna.
Lee Patterson crime is very

1126
01:05:07,800 --> 01:05:10,900
similar to the dark Strangler if
it's happening in the States,

1127
01:05:12,000 --> 01:05:16,300
you don't say, well, so Winnipeg
Police Department is, like,

1128
01:05:16,300 --> 01:05:18,700
screw this.
We're stopping at every boarding

1129
01:05:18,700 --> 01:05:21,100
house in the area and we're
talking to everybody.

1130
01:05:21,100 --> 01:05:24,900
There you go.
And they're like, we need to see

1131
01:05:24,900 --> 01:05:26,500
all the owners.
Are there any landlady's

1132
01:05:26,500 --> 01:05:29,600
missing?
So, they stopped by Catherine

1133
01:05:29,600 --> 01:05:32,800
Hills house and she's like, oh,
the only guy who's come by

1134
01:05:32,800 --> 01:05:34,400
lately?
Was this very nice Christian,

1135
01:05:34,400 --> 01:05:37,000
man and he ran the room, but I
haven't seen him for a couple

1136
01:05:37,000 --> 01:05:40,200
days, but he paid me up until
Friday and he said he would be

1137
01:05:40,200 --> 01:05:42,300
back on Friday to pay me more
money.

1138
01:05:42,700 --> 01:05:45,300
And she's like, it's not that
uncommon, because people are up

1139
01:05:45,300 --> 01:05:48,000
there for work to be gone for a
couple days at a time.

1140
01:05:49,200 --> 01:05:51,500
After the police left, though,
she got a little curious.

1141
01:05:51,500 --> 01:05:54,300
And she's like, let me go check
on his room.

1142
01:05:55,000 --> 01:05:57,100
She knocks at the door.
He doesn't answer and so she

1143
01:05:57,100 --> 01:06:00,400
lets herself in.
She said the room stank as if he

1144
01:06:00,400 --> 01:06:04,600
had left rotten meat out.
And she realized that he hadn't

1145
01:06:04,600 --> 01:06:08,100
slept in the bed, and she was
like, he must have skipped out

1146
01:06:08,100 --> 01:06:10,300
on paying me, the rent.
She's like, I'm gonna call the

1147
01:06:10,308 --> 01:06:13,200
police and let them know that
this guy's not coming back and

1148
01:06:13,200 --> 01:06:14,500
then I she's getting ready to
leave.

1149
01:06:14,500 --> 01:06:19,500
She sees like a mannequin under
the bed and she will, she

1150
01:06:19,500 --> 01:06:23,000
realized very quickly, that's
the body of our mini kilcullen.

1151
01:06:24,000 --> 01:06:27,800
Just like, every other person
Lola had been strangled and

1152
01:06:27,800 --> 01:06:30,600
assaulted post-mortem stuff in
his bed.

1153
01:06:30,700 --> 01:06:33,000
Yeah, at this point, I think,
You're listening.

1154
01:06:33,000 --> 01:06:35,100
Earl is off the rails.
He's completely unhinged at this

1155
01:06:35,100 --> 01:06:36,600
point.
Yeah, he's on the Run.

1156
01:06:36,600 --> 01:06:38,500
He's trying to qualities
murderous urges.

1157
01:06:38,500 --> 01:06:41,400
He's grabbing anybody because a
fourteen-year-old doesn't fit

1158
01:06:41,600 --> 01:06:46,000
his pattern of sexual interest
at all, but it doesn't matter to

1159
01:06:46,000 --> 01:06:47,300
him.
He just grabbed somebody.

1160
01:06:47,300 --> 01:06:51,500
He saw on the street, he's got a
lot going on for him though

1161
01:06:51,500 --> 01:06:54,300
because the entire Royal
Canadian Mounted Police are

1162
01:06:54,300 --> 01:06:57,600
looking for him.
There is fifteen hundred dollar

1163
01:06:57,600 --> 01:07:01,100
reward out for his capture and
and worse.

1164
01:07:01,100 --> 01:07:05,100
He's a foreigner.
So he's not talking like the

1165
01:07:05,100 --> 01:07:07,600
locals, he doesn't look like the
locals, he's not using the right

1166
01:07:07,600 --> 01:07:09,400
word sticking out like a sore
thumb.

1167
01:07:09,400 --> 01:07:11,500
Yep.
And so he's like, I'm just going

1168
01:07:11,500 --> 01:07:14,200
to try and hit you right back to
the US border, which only made

1169
01:07:14,200 --> 01:07:16,300
it easier for the police to
track his movements because

1170
01:07:16,300 --> 01:07:18,200
other people were like, yeah.
So we definitely saw this

1171
01:07:18,200 --> 01:07:22,400
american guy, he dropped I'm off
down the road that way he makes

1172
01:07:22,400 --> 01:07:27,200
it, almost the US border five
miles away when a cop catches up

1173
01:07:27,200 --> 01:07:29,100
with him.
See, at this point, his

1174
01:07:29,100 --> 01:07:32,000
description had been given to
been given to all of the Border

1175
01:07:32,000 --> 01:07:37,900
towns in the entire Province.
And when he stopped for food and

1176
01:07:37,900 --> 01:07:41,900
will Copa, he was recognized and
they like very discreetly like

1177
01:07:41,900 --> 01:07:45,800
called the cops and were like,
he's here, he got about a mile

1178
01:07:45,800 --> 01:07:49,400
and a half away from what Copa
when a constable stopped him and

1179
01:07:49,400 --> 01:07:52,100
this.
Took no chances drew his gun on

1180
01:07:52,100 --> 01:07:53,400
him.
Immediately was like I need you

1181
01:07:53,400 --> 01:07:59,800
to like stop Earl surrenders,
and he's taken to the Killarney

1182
01:07:59,800 --> 01:08:02,800
Manitoba jail.
He tells them his name is Virgil

1183
01:08:02,800 --> 01:08:04,900
Wilson.
He's just a day laborer, and he

1184
01:08:04,900 --> 01:08:07,000
has no idea who this dark
stranger is dark.

1185
01:08:07,000 --> 01:08:09,900
Strangler person is, oh my God,
he cooperates fully and he's

1186
01:08:09,900 --> 01:08:13,800
like so helpful and nice that
the police are like, do we have

1187
01:08:13,800 --> 01:08:16,200
the right guy?
Yes.

1188
01:08:17,100 --> 01:08:19,899
Well, they put them into a jail
cell and unfortunately like like

1189
01:08:20,000 --> 01:08:24,800
this jail was pretty old.
The Constable locks him up even

1190
01:08:24,800 --> 01:08:28,500
though he's having like in a
second thoughts.

1191
01:08:28,700 --> 01:08:31,100
But they put him in a jail cell
the way that they used to do

1192
01:08:31,300 --> 01:08:33,700
which was no shoes.
No socks and no belt.

1193
01:08:34,700 --> 01:08:36,899
So you couldn't harm yourself
and you couldn't get out.

1194
01:08:37,899 --> 01:08:41,399
He goes to tell craft Winnipeg
and tell them, we found the

1195
01:08:41,399 --> 01:08:44,000
killer.
So when he returns to the

1196
01:08:44,000 --> 01:08:46,600
prison, he stops to get a cigar
in a newspaper.

1197
01:08:46,600 --> 01:08:50,300
He's pulling pretty good.
And the jail doors are open.

1198
01:08:50,300 --> 01:08:54,000
And Earl is gone.
Oh my God, the master of

1199
01:08:54,000 --> 01:08:59,000
unlocking Houdini strikes.
Again, he managed to find a

1200
01:08:59,000 --> 01:09:02,800
wire.
Pick the double lock and Escape

1201
01:09:02,800 --> 01:09:05,100
without being seen by.
Anybody else in the prison.

1202
01:09:06,100 --> 01:09:08,800
The Constable quickly forms.
Another group, they go outside

1203
01:09:08,800 --> 01:09:11,300
searching.
Again, the Constable this

1204
01:09:11,300 --> 01:09:12,700
points.
Like listen, I thought he was a

1205
01:09:12,700 --> 01:09:15,200
good guy but because he ran, you
know, he's not in.

1206
01:09:15,200 --> 01:09:18,600
Yeah yeah something to hide Earl
found an old barn and hid there

1207
01:09:18,600 --> 01:09:20,899
for the night.
Then he found an old sweater and

1208
01:09:20,899 --> 01:09:23,399
a pair of ice skates and he
removed the blade from the ice

1209
01:09:23,399 --> 01:09:27,100
skates and were those issues and
started walking South.

1210
01:09:28,600 --> 01:09:32,200
Harold, Schechter like wrote in
his book that Earl probably

1211
01:09:32,200 --> 01:09:34,000
thought of himself as Invincible
by now.

1212
01:09:35,100 --> 01:09:37,600
And I just got to figure like
there's he meets a farmer on the

1213
01:09:37,600 --> 01:09:40,700
road, the farmer recognizes him,
but there he is standing with

1214
01:09:40,700 --> 01:09:43,700
his big self.
We're in this old-ass sweater

1215
01:09:43,700 --> 01:09:48,800
with the holes in it, in some
ice skates, without the state

1216
01:09:48,800 --> 01:09:52,000
part on the bottom.
He has to look ridiculous and

1217
01:09:52,000 --> 01:09:55,800
he's like, I'm doing a good job.
No, one can tell, it's me

1218
01:09:57,100 --> 01:09:59,100
obviously disguise.
A perfectly.

1219
01:09:59,100 --> 01:10:02,300
Yes.
What's that a song from?

1220
01:10:04,100 --> 01:10:07,400
The Backyardigans in a super
spy.

1221
01:10:07,600 --> 01:10:10,800
Oh my God.
He thought he was doing.

1222
01:10:10,800 --> 01:10:14,000
Is it International?
Super Spy thought, he really was

1223
01:10:14,200 --> 01:10:17,700
International.
Super Spy, he's very quickly

1224
01:10:18,400 --> 01:10:21,600
found after the farmer is, like,
I left him on that road.

1225
01:10:22,600 --> 01:10:25,400
The Next Step was, they brought
in nearly 40 Witnesses, from

1226
01:10:25,400 --> 01:10:28,500
both Canada and the US
confirming his identity,

1227
01:10:29,200 --> 01:10:30,800
Catherine Hill was the nail in
the coffin.

1228
01:10:30,800 --> 01:10:33,700
As she was like, well, that's
the guy who I meant the room to

1229
01:10:34,200 --> 01:10:39,200
That's where we found the body.
Even Martin Newman, came to

1230
01:10:39,200 --> 01:10:43,900
Canada, to point him out.
They discovered that his the way

1231
01:10:43,900 --> 01:10:47,500
that he was getting around
people recognizing him, was that

1232
01:10:47,500 --> 01:10:50,700
before he would go on, Mike, his
little murder spree, he would

1233
01:10:50,700 --> 01:10:53,000
shave his face.
Completely clean and clear.

1234
01:10:53,100 --> 01:10:57,100
Hmm, and cut his hair short,
then he would do the murders and

1235
01:10:57,100 --> 01:10:59,500
then he would let his hair grow
out as he was traveling.

1236
01:10:59,800 --> 01:11:02,300
So, people would be looking for
a clean-shaven, man.

1237
01:11:03,100 --> 01:11:05,600
And he'd be walking around
looking like, you know, a

1238
01:11:05,600 --> 01:11:06,700
Ruffian.
Mmm.

1239
01:11:10,300 --> 01:11:15,300
He finally admitted that he was
Earl Nelson but they were like,

1240
01:11:15,300 --> 01:11:17,600
what about this knife?
Because when he was in Detroit,

1241
01:11:17,600 --> 01:11:20,800
he had cut the cord that he used
to wrap around the righties neck

1242
01:11:20,800 --> 01:11:24,500
when the cord on the lamp was
still in the wall, right?

1243
01:11:24,600 --> 01:11:29,100
They had burned the knife.
So they were like, you have this

1244
01:11:29,100 --> 01:11:32,200
burn knife and this was used in
Detroit, he's like, listen, I'm

1245
01:11:32,200 --> 01:11:33,700
Jew.
Christian to kill anybody, what

1246
01:11:33,708 --> 01:11:35,600
are you talking about a
Christian man?

1247
01:11:37,100 --> 01:11:40,300
Wasn't me, hope.
Here is the one on man, his

1248
01:11:40,300 --> 01:11:43,700
lawyers just decided we're just
going to go with the fact that

1249
01:11:43,708 --> 01:11:48,200
he's a complete and totally
insane and he shouldn't be

1250
01:11:48,200 --> 01:11:50,600
allowed to testify on his own
behalf.

1251
01:11:53,100 --> 01:11:57,000
As that's happening, indictments
come down in San Francisco,

1252
01:11:57,000 --> 01:11:59,400
Portland, Detroit Philadelphia
and buffalo.

1253
01:12:00,100 --> 01:12:03,900
However Manitoba's like we got
the death penalty.

1254
01:12:04,700 --> 01:12:07,100
He gets tried here.
First, let us take care of

1255
01:12:07,200 --> 01:12:09,500
killing Emily, Patterson and
Lola Cohen.

1256
01:12:09,800 --> 01:12:12,500
Let's let us do with it.
So it was unlikely.

1257
01:12:12,500 --> 01:12:16,600
He'd ever make it to the u.s. to
be to see those trials detective

1258
01:12:16,600 --> 01:12:19,400
across North America.
Show up to compare notes and

1259
01:12:19,400 --> 01:12:23,700
they managed to link Mind you
this would never happen.

1260
01:12:23,700 --> 01:12:28,900
Now in our current time but they
legitimately all these us,

1261
01:12:28,900 --> 01:12:33,300
detectives went up to Manitoba
and they sat down with all of

1262
01:12:33,300 --> 01:12:37,800
their notes and they linked him
to 22 murders across North

1263
01:12:37,800 --> 01:12:38,600
America.
Oh yeah.

1264
01:12:38,600 --> 01:12:40,900
This is only going to heaven.
That would never happen.

1265
01:12:40,900 --> 01:12:43,400
Now, people are like so like
ego-driven they're like, we

1266
01:12:43,400 --> 01:12:44,500
don't care.
Yeah.

1267
01:12:44,500 --> 01:12:48,500
Is this is your guy, our guy.
Let's compare me in affect us at

1268
01:12:48,500 --> 01:12:51,400
all.
Or did it even though he had?

1269
01:12:51,600 --> 01:12:54,900
Like a bunch of Stan's where he
didn't do any crime for months

1270
01:12:54,900 --> 01:12:58,300
at a time.
His average was about one murder

1271
01:12:58,300 --> 01:13:02,300
per month, between February
20th, 1926 to June, 9th, or

1272
01:13:02,300 --> 01:13:07,000
10th. 1927, the trial was quick.
Open insurance.

1273
01:13:07,000 --> 01:13:09,500
It was a circus, but it wasn't
nearly as dramatic as some of

1274
01:13:09,508 --> 01:13:11,200
the trials have discussed this
year.

1275
01:13:12,100 --> 01:13:14,300
It was a big deal for Manitoba
though because they had never

1276
01:13:14,300 --> 01:13:15,800
had anything.
This crazy.

1277
01:13:17,200 --> 01:13:19,400
They had so many eyewitnesses
though confirming.

1278
01:13:19,400 --> 01:13:22,900
He was who he was that the
Execution didn't have to do too

1279
01:13:22,900 --> 01:13:24,700
much.
The worst that they did.

1280
01:13:24,700 --> 01:13:27,900
I like the defense attorneys
didn't really know how to defend

1281
01:13:27,900 --> 01:13:30,900
him so they tried to show that
he was like super crazy and he'd

1282
01:13:30,900 --> 01:13:34,600
always been crazy as whole life.
They had Lily and show up and

1283
01:13:34,600 --> 01:13:36,500
she discussed like how terrible
they were.

1284
01:13:36,500 --> 01:13:40,500
They talked about like his
mental illness and Mary was like

1285
01:13:40,500 --> 01:13:43,200
yeah after he hit his head a
couple times, he got more

1286
01:13:43,200 --> 01:13:47,500
abusive, it was very clear to
anybody watching that both Mary

1287
01:13:47,500 --> 01:13:50,800
and Lillian were trying to save
him from the death penalty, the

1288
01:13:50,800 --> 01:13:55,100
prosecution One witness a
psychiatrist who called Earl a

1289
01:13:55,200 --> 01:13:57,300
constitutional psychopath.
That's the second time he's

1290
01:13:57,300 --> 01:14:00,400
gotten a diagnosis.
So legally saying and aware of

1291
01:14:00,400 --> 01:14:03,200
what he's doing, you can leave
the rest up to the jury, that's

1292
01:14:03,200 --> 01:14:06,300
where they left that the jury.
Found him guilty within an hour,

1293
01:14:06,800 --> 01:14:09,400
Judge, Andrew dicer, gave him
the death penalty.

1294
01:14:10,200 --> 01:14:13,600
And it first, Earl was kind of a
motionless, but about two months

1295
01:14:13,600 --> 01:14:16,500
after his trial, while he was
awaiting his execution, he began

1296
01:14:16,800 --> 01:14:20,600
telling everybody, the media.
Like he started writing letters.

1297
01:14:20,700 --> 01:14:23,500
I'm innocent.
He did interviews with reporters

1298
01:14:23,900 --> 01:14:27,300
but he even requested to the
high court of Manitoba that they

1299
01:14:27,300 --> 01:14:32,100
do in a new trial, but the high
court was like, that's okay.

1300
01:14:32,100 --> 01:14:33,900
No, we already know.
It was you buddy.

1301
01:14:33,900 --> 01:14:36,800
We literally found the body of a
teenage girl in your bedroom

1302
01:14:36,800 --> 01:14:41,000
buddy, underneath your bed day
before his execution.

1303
01:14:41,900 --> 01:14:46,800
He met with the family of Emily
Patterson and Lola Cohen and to

1304
01:14:46,800 --> 01:14:50,600
Lola Cullen's mom's face He was
like, I didn't kill your

1305
01:14:50,600 --> 01:14:51,700
daughter.
I don't know what you're talking

1306
01:14:51,700 --> 01:14:53,200
about.
Oh my God, gasps lighten.

1307
01:14:54,600 --> 01:14:56,900
The next day is hanging came and
went peacefully.

1308
01:14:57,300 --> 01:14:59,600
He told reporters he was
innocent and he made his peace

1309
01:14:59,600 --> 01:15:01,600
with God.
He took a step up to the

1310
01:15:01,600 --> 01:15:05,000
Gallows, let them put the hood
over his head and ironically,

1311
01:15:05,000 --> 01:15:08,100
the king like the thing that
killed the dark Strangler was

1312
01:15:08,100 --> 01:15:13,500
strangulation, hey, If you're a
fan of Hitchcock, Earl Nelson,

1313
01:15:13,500 --> 01:15:16,900
story did Inspire the film
shadow of a doubt which is about

1314
01:15:16,900 --> 01:15:20,500
The Merry Widow murderer, which
also has to do with the fact

1315
01:15:20,500 --> 01:15:22,300
that these are older.
Women are being killed.

1316
01:15:22,300 --> 01:15:24,800
Right.
Nelson is considered to be the

1317
01:15:24,800 --> 01:15:27,300
first serial murderer in
American history.

1318
01:15:27,300 --> 01:15:31,500
That was widely reported on.
And his crimes and trial

1319
01:15:31,500 --> 01:15:34,200
received National media
attention, and international

1320
01:15:34,200 --> 01:15:35,700
attention, all the way to
Australia.

1321
01:15:36,800 --> 01:15:39,600
As far as historically, he is
considered to be the first

1322
01:15:39,600 --> 01:15:44,600
serial lust killer, whose crimes
were completely sexual in

1323
01:15:44,600 --> 01:15:46,800
nature.
Even though his victims were

1324
01:15:47,300 --> 01:15:50,200
dead, when he assaulted them,
his crimes were definitely based

1325
01:15:50,200 --> 01:15:52,800
in sex, right?
Which makes him a lust killer

1326
01:15:52,800 --> 01:15:54,900
and that's the first in 20th
century America.

1327
01:15:55,200 --> 01:15:58,700
Hey, and that's our horrible
boil Nelson.

1328
01:15:58,700 --> 01:16:01,700
Very interesting and Just
disturbing.

1329
01:16:01,900 --> 01:16:06,400
Yeah.
Oh, good, I got for you today.

1330
01:16:06,700 --> 01:16:10,600
Yay.
Oh goodness.

1331
01:16:17,700 --> 01:16:21,700
When Killers get caught is
sponsored by the magic class

1332
01:16:21,700 --> 01:16:25,300
Boutique.
Now, why does that name sound so

1333
01:16:25,300 --> 01:16:28,300
familiar?
Well, it's because as a business

1334
01:16:28,400 --> 01:16:31,900
ran by our very own Britney,
that's right.

1335
01:16:31,900 --> 01:16:34,700
The magic class Boutique is, not
only a black-owned business.

1336
01:16:34,800 --> 01:16:39,100
It's a woman-owned is well, this
is a jewelry company, that makes

1337
01:16:39,100 --> 01:16:42,500
some pretty awesome earrings.
Reading from cute little sushis,

1338
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Okay, let's hit the hay.

1350
01:17:47,400 --> 01:17:49,500
I'm going to start this off with
a little story.

1351
01:17:49,500 --> 01:17:54,900
Okay, Nona bear with me because
It's I wrote it.

1352
01:17:54,900 --> 01:18:02,100
So another writer, but, you
know, bear with me.

1353
01:18:02,700 --> 01:18:12,200
It set the mood for you guys.
The summer heat is killing you.

1354
01:18:12,800 --> 01:18:16,600
Humidity sweat bugs.
Yuck.

1355
01:18:19,100 --> 01:18:21,400
Just want to get away.
You do.

1356
01:18:21,500 --> 01:18:24,600
You'll do literally.
Anything is escape the Heat.

1357
01:18:25,500 --> 01:18:28,300
Sitting at your computer
underneath your ceiling fan,

1358
01:18:28,500 --> 01:18:32,200
that seems to just make you
hotter for some reason.

1359
01:18:32,700 --> 01:18:37,900
When you check your emails and
says congratulations, you're our

1360
01:18:37,900 --> 01:18:40,800
lucky winner.
You entered a contest.

1361
01:18:40,800 --> 01:18:43,600
A few months ago for a free trip
to Nepal.

1362
01:18:44,500 --> 01:18:47,900
It's supposed to be cold.
There you immediately pack your

1363
01:18:47,900 --> 01:18:50,800
bags and get ready for the trip
of your lifetime.

1364
01:18:51,800 --> 01:18:55,200
Over your lifetime of the
lifetime of your lifetime of a

1365
01:18:55,200 --> 01:18:56,400
lifetime.
There you go.

1366
01:18:56,500 --> 01:19:01,100
I didn't know how to write that.
That's forward.

1367
01:19:01,300 --> 01:19:06,200
You're a Nepal, staying a lovely
cabin, the weather is perfect,

1368
01:19:06,600 --> 01:19:12,000
nice and cool, and no bugs.
Choo-Choo, you're little you

1369
01:19:12,000 --> 01:19:15,700
like you're spending a relaxing
night by the fireplace when you

1370
01:19:15,700 --> 01:19:19,300
hear scratching along your
cabin, okay?

1371
01:19:19,300 --> 01:19:22,100
Probably a tree.
Scratching exactly.

1372
01:19:22,300 --> 01:19:26,600
Then there's A thudding sound on
the roof of your cabin.

1373
01:19:27,300 --> 01:19:36,100
Maybe an owl makes sense.
Yeah, suddenly a pile.

1374
01:19:36,100 --> 01:19:40,200
The snow comes down the chimney
and knocks out your fire great.

1375
01:19:40,700 --> 01:19:45,300
It's dark as fuck in your cabin
now Then there's a little Boom.

1376
01:19:45,300 --> 01:19:47,300
At your door.
What the heck?

1377
01:19:48,300 --> 01:19:54,000
You think the banging continues
until your door comes flying in.

1378
01:19:56,500 --> 01:20:00,400
while you're hiding in a small
kitchen area shivering, you peek

1379
01:20:00,400 --> 01:20:05,200
out from the corner and see
terrifying sight, A large

1380
01:20:05,200 --> 01:20:10,100
hulking beasts standing in the
doorway just can't be you say

1381
01:20:10,400 --> 01:20:14,200
impossible is steps in searching
for something.

1382
01:20:14,400 --> 01:20:21,000
Sniffing the air suddenly spots.
You lets out a terrifying Roar

1383
01:20:21,700 --> 01:20:26,600
as it charges towards you.
All you can think is well, at

1384
01:20:26,608 --> 01:20:32,700
least I'm not hot anymore.
No.

1385
01:20:40,300 --> 01:20:44,200
So I got a question for you.
What happens when a snowman has

1386
01:20:44,200 --> 01:20:46,300
a tantrum?
I don't know.

1387
01:20:46,800 --> 01:20:48,700
He has a meltdown.
That's cute.

1388
01:20:50,300 --> 01:20:52,100
That's good.
When I tell my students like a

1389
01:20:52,100 --> 01:20:56,600
that they love silly jokes.
Oh goodness.

1390
01:20:57,700 --> 01:21:01,700
So, what the heck is my talking
about today?

1391
01:21:04,700 --> 01:21:12,500
Something that lives in the code
and his abominable and it is is

1392
01:21:12,500 --> 01:21:18,800
that I mean, it's a name that
it's called that the right name,

1393
01:21:19,200 --> 01:21:20,900
it's a name.
Okay.

1394
01:21:22,000 --> 01:21:23,600
You know we got all these weird
names.

1395
01:21:25,000 --> 01:21:32,400
Oh my goodness.
They wished me well and finding

1396
01:21:32,400 --> 01:21:36,100
someone who is as thick as the
Mothman.

1397
01:21:36,100 --> 01:21:38,800
Oh my God.
Good luck.

1398
01:21:40,300 --> 01:21:43,600
The movement do be packing.
They cake.

1399
01:21:44,900 --> 01:21:47,300
Good luck.
Hope you find someone who's got

1400
01:21:47,300 --> 01:21:49,800
a booty, like the Mothman.
I was like, that's like my new

1401
01:21:49,800 --> 01:21:52,000
favorite way that we should sign
off.

1402
01:21:54,400 --> 01:22:01,700
Yes, let's do it.
So, I'll be talking about the

1403
01:22:01,700 --> 01:22:03,400
yeti today.
Okay?

1404
01:22:03,500 --> 01:22:09,700
Yetiz the yeti whatever.
Don't know much about it to be

1405
01:22:09,700 --> 01:22:12,800
honest.
Well, let me let you know some

1406
01:22:12,800 --> 01:22:16,100
things about this, this
creature.

1407
01:22:18,500 --> 01:22:22,300
So it's name roughly translates
to the thing.

1408
01:22:23,100 --> 01:22:25,400
Which is that.
Wait, the thing.

1409
01:22:25,400 --> 01:22:29,200
The thing so creative.
Yeah, I know, right?

1410
01:22:29,200 --> 01:22:30,700
Which is funny because there's a
movie.

1411
01:22:31,300 --> 01:22:33,000
John Carpenter's called the
thing.

1412
01:22:33,000 --> 01:22:37,000
Yeah.
And it's winter in like every

1413
01:22:37,000 --> 01:22:39,800
eighth word or if it's hard to
get or something like that.

1414
01:22:40,600 --> 01:22:45,100
So during a cold spot and
they're attacked by an alien

1415
01:22:45,100 --> 01:22:48,100
shape-shifter or some type of
shape shifting alien.

1416
01:22:48,500 --> 01:22:52,600
Maybe it's Loosely, it's an
alien but you know, whatever.

1417
01:22:52,800 --> 01:22:56,200
Anyway, I mean, lots of people
believe it like stuff from

1418
01:22:56,700 --> 01:23:00,300
ancient cultures is aliens.
This is true.

1419
01:23:00,300 --> 01:23:04,000
I have this like violent angry
issue with people thinking that

1420
01:23:04,000 --> 01:23:06,300
the pyramids were built by
aliens.

1421
01:23:06,300 --> 01:23:09,200
Yes, we talked about this with
my grey aliens.

1422
01:23:15,000 --> 01:23:18,200
Don't take that away from us.
Please don't let us have it.

1423
01:23:18,300 --> 01:23:20,900
Up.
You know what's funny and talk

1424
01:23:20,900 --> 01:23:23,800
about any other original Asian
Societies in Africa?

1425
01:23:23,800 --> 01:23:26,200
We only talk about Egypt.
Let us at least have that.

1426
01:23:26,200 --> 01:23:28,500
Then I was going to say
something about talk about

1427
01:23:28,500 --> 01:23:32,000
later, which is it nothing.
I'll talk about later part of

1428
01:23:32,000 --> 01:23:34,300
here.
Often those out there is this

1429
01:23:34,300 --> 01:23:36,800
stuff.
I just like that little guy who

1430
01:23:36,800 --> 01:23:48,200
goes, yes, So the yeti or yet a
or meant a different names for?

1431
01:23:48,800 --> 01:23:52,600
Yeah, it's a large bipedal
ape-like creature.

1432
01:23:52,600 --> 01:23:59,000
That is the head has either
brown or gray or more commonly

1433
01:23:59,000 --> 01:24:04,100
known white fur.
Whoo, are they related or their

1434
01:24:04,100 --> 01:24:11,000
American cousins named Bigfoot?
I mean, are we really Lee.

1435
01:24:11,200 --> 01:24:14,600
They they are, they are closely
related.

1436
01:24:14,600 --> 01:24:17,500
I'd say, they are both ape-like
creatures.

1437
01:24:17,600 --> 01:24:21,000
Okay, that's new.
I didn't think they were the

1438
01:24:21,000 --> 01:24:23,700
same creature.
Not, but you're just.

1439
01:24:23,700 --> 01:24:26,400
Do we ever see white one?
Like going to see the white ones

1440
01:24:26,400 --> 01:24:32,600
in the snow?
Yeah, I guess I have many

1441
01:24:32,600 --> 01:24:35,100
questions.
I mean, the whiteness could just

1442
01:24:35,100 --> 01:24:38,900
be from the snow and not just
because their fur is white.

1443
01:24:39,900 --> 01:24:41,300
I mean, you're saying, Polar
bears.

1444
01:24:41,300 --> 01:24:43,100
Polar bear's.
Fur is actually clear.

1445
01:24:43,600 --> 01:24:45,700
I'm not talking about polar
bears on, don't know yet.

1446
01:24:45,700 --> 01:24:48,700
He's well if it's brown, it
would look Brown on white.

1447
01:24:48,900 --> 01:24:52,900
Yeah, but gray would pass, sure.
Maybe you're just gray.

1448
01:24:53,700 --> 01:24:55,100
Okay?
But you said, there's brown ones

1449
01:24:55,100 --> 01:24:56,800
too.
There are brown ones black like

1450
01:24:56,800 --> 01:24:58,200
those cute squirrels.
No.

1451
01:25:01,100 --> 01:25:07,700
Anyway, sorry that's okay.
So the first known reference to

1452
01:25:07,700 --> 01:25:13,700
the yeti is a 1832 issue of the
Journal of the Asiana casaya T

1453
01:25:13,700 --> 01:25:20,600
of Bengal where Native hunters
in a Northern Nepal Providence,

1454
01:25:20,900 --> 01:25:27,400
The Province, they spot a hairy
until is biped bipedal creature.

1455
01:25:28,400 --> 01:25:33,300
Okay, know, the writer of this
issue is not that the hunters

1456
01:25:33,400 --> 01:25:42,100
they saw an orangutan but yeah
in Nepal Nepal and the pole.

1457
01:25:42,100 --> 01:25:44,800
It's an appalling.
I think it's cool that this is

1458
01:25:44,800 --> 01:25:48,600
like in a real magazine.
Yeah, like some little goofy

1459
01:25:48,600 --> 01:25:52,600
like, you know, Zine, I'm afraid
by a bunch of side people.

1460
01:25:52,600 --> 01:25:55,300
It sounds like a real official
thing.

1461
01:25:55,300 --> 01:25:58,000
I'm pretty sure there's another
Cryptid citing now.

1462
01:25:58,200 --> 01:26:04,100
These will be in the news to I
suppose, but probably as a joke,

1463
01:26:04,100 --> 01:26:07,200
someone releasing like the
Journal of, like medicine.

1464
01:26:07,500 --> 01:26:10,400
And there's a lot of those like
really journals that like,

1465
01:26:10,400 --> 01:26:14,900
Collegiate people, write in, and
they reference seeing a Cryptid.

1466
01:26:14,900 --> 01:26:18,200
That's like a big deal, right?
You're right.

1467
01:26:18,300 --> 01:26:23,100
Very true.
So yeah, the writer, he thinks

1468
01:26:23,100 --> 01:26:27,600
that they may have spotted an
orangutan, okay, but why isn't a

1469
01:26:27,608 --> 01:26:32,100
racket I'm so far from home
exactly.

1470
01:26:34,100 --> 01:26:40,000
Right.
Is do not exist in Nepal, they

1471
01:26:40,000 --> 01:26:43,200
don't they don't exist in
Mainland Asia at all.

1472
01:26:44,200 --> 01:26:45,900
I realize I thought they'd have
some.

1473
01:26:51,200 --> 01:26:53,100
Yeah, we talked about phoolan
Devi.

1474
01:26:53,100 --> 01:26:56,000
I didn't know until I did that.
That like they're straight up

1475
01:26:56,500 --> 01:26:58,600
swamp, Forest areas.
In India.

1476
01:26:58,600 --> 01:27:00,800
And yeah.
So like, hmm.

1477
01:27:02,600 --> 01:27:10,900
So in 1921, on an expedition of
Mount Everest Or Everest.

1478
01:27:11,700 --> 01:27:17,400
Everest Expedition.
Coronal.

1479
01:27:17,500 --> 01:27:21,900
CK Howard, berry berry and his
buddies.

1480
01:27:22,500 --> 01:27:27,300
They found footprints that were
three times the size of human

1481
01:27:27,300 --> 01:27:31,100
tracks.
Now, they had Sherpa, guys with

1482
01:27:31,100 --> 01:27:37,300
them with force and the guides
said that these Footprints, they

1483
01:27:37,300 --> 01:27:41,600
belong to the met.
A Meta.

1484
01:27:41,600 --> 01:27:46,300
It means man-like thing.
That's not a man.

1485
01:27:46,800 --> 01:27:50,000
So yeah, description of a lot of
things.

1486
01:27:50,400 --> 01:27:55,300
Could you just imagine what if
like, you know, somebody was

1487
01:27:55,300 --> 01:27:58,400
naming things and they were just
like, that's, it's tree.

1488
01:27:58,400 --> 01:28:02,700
Like like you just look at a
bush and you're like that's it's

1489
01:28:02,700 --> 01:28:04,600
kind of like a tree.
It's just shorter.

1490
01:28:04,600 --> 01:28:07,200
Yeah, it's a tree light.
It's a tree, like short thing,

1491
01:28:07,200 --> 01:28:10,800
I'm sure that free like thing.
Oh my God.

1492
01:28:13,600 --> 01:28:20,500
But this somehow got
mistranslated and turned into

1493
01:28:20,500 --> 01:28:25,700
the Abominable Snowman.
Somehow some I don't know

1494
01:28:25,700 --> 01:28:28,700
somehow they got met a
abominable.

1495
01:28:30,300 --> 01:28:33,700
It doesn't even there's no no
someone just made that up.

1496
01:28:35,700 --> 01:28:39,800
Preferably somebody probably
like from Europe or America

1497
01:28:39,800 --> 01:28:41,900
because we love to butcher
things and what's the true

1498
01:28:41,900 --> 01:28:44,600
culture?
That's very true.

1499
01:28:45,500 --> 01:28:55,400
Now Colonel Howard, Barry said
that he's all otherwise he you

1500
01:28:55,400 --> 01:29:00,300
know he knows more than the
Sherpas know so he he's growing

1501
01:29:00,300 --> 01:29:03,400
up in this area he knows the
Lord and all that stuff.

1502
01:29:03,400 --> 01:29:07,600
All those stories sure.
Considered to be like the

1503
01:29:07,600 --> 01:29:10,500
end-all-be-all when it comes to.
Yes.

1504
01:29:10,800 --> 01:29:12,800
Okay.
I'm just confusion.

1505
01:29:14,300 --> 01:29:16,100
Oh, good.
I was like, I thought that like

1506
01:29:16,200 --> 01:29:19,200
people use the shirt like they
could help from the Sherpas when

1507
01:29:19,200 --> 01:29:22,300
they cross the what you call it
the man.

1508
01:29:22,500 --> 01:29:26,300
Yeah.
But he he he disagreed.

1509
01:29:26,300 --> 01:29:28,300
He said it was just a special
brand of jerk.

1510
01:29:28,300 --> 01:29:31,700
Yeah, he said it was a.
He thought it was a gray wolf

1511
01:29:31,800 --> 01:29:34,600
that made these footprints that
were three times.

1512
01:29:34,800 --> 01:29:40,600
The size of men's a wolf.
Like could you imagine like

1513
01:29:40,600 --> 01:29:44,200
meeting the wolf that had a size
30 foot?

1514
01:29:44,200 --> 01:29:46,100
That's like dire Wolf's
territory?

1515
01:29:46,100 --> 01:29:49,000
Like, that's scary.
Exactly.

1516
01:29:49,100 --> 01:29:52,700
He's like, I'm like, I'm leaving
the mountains then, if that's a

1517
01:29:52,700 --> 01:29:54,400
wolf.
Exactly.

1518
01:29:55,000 --> 01:29:57,800
Yeah.
But I'm not particularly fond of

1519
01:29:57,800 --> 01:30:02,000
the woods now, and there's just
regular old bears and their

1520
01:30:02,000 --> 01:30:05,700
regular sized something bigger
than that is terrifying.

1521
01:30:06,000 --> 01:30:10,400
This is true.
But guess what?

1522
01:30:11,200 --> 01:30:14,900
There are any known Wolves and
the freaking Himalayas, of

1523
01:30:14,900 --> 01:30:16,800
course, of course, you're not.
So you're wrong.

1524
01:30:16,800 --> 01:30:19,500
So where do you even get that?
I don't know.

1525
01:30:21,300 --> 01:30:22,300
What does he look like?
What?

1526
01:30:22,300 --> 01:30:23,000
I think?
He probably.

1527
01:30:23,100 --> 01:30:25,000
Yeah.
So annoying.

1528
01:30:27,000 --> 01:30:30,700
It's just, it's just like
Sometimes you had to take a

1529
01:30:30,708 --> 01:30:34,700
backseat and let people from an
area who know things talk?

1530
01:30:35,000 --> 01:30:37,900
Yes, like sometimes you just
don't have to talk.

1531
01:30:40,000 --> 01:30:44,100
So he's over here telling people
who live here and like their job

1532
01:30:44,100 --> 01:30:48,900
is to know the land and and
guide tourists in other people

1533
01:30:48,900 --> 01:30:52,300
and help people y'all know what
you're talking about, that's a

1534
01:30:52,300 --> 01:30:55,500
wolf.
That'd be a wolf training bra.

1535
01:30:55,800 --> 01:31:01,000
There's a wolf rent anyway, in
1920, I have a fetish for those

1536
01:31:01,000 --> 01:31:03,700
Sherpas.
They probably did but I'm

1537
01:31:03,700 --> 01:31:11,900
offended a British photographer.
He spotted this at 13 at 15,000

1538
01:31:11,900 --> 01:31:17,700
feet.
By a glacier.

1539
01:31:18,400 --> 01:31:23,900
He saw a naked figure and an
outline exactly well is this is

1540
01:31:23,900 --> 01:31:29,000
quote it's a he saw a naked
figure and outline exactly like

1541
01:31:29,000 --> 01:31:35,800
a human being walking through
the snow. so, There was a

1542
01:31:36,200 --> 01:31:40,000
humanoid figure walking around a
glacier, that was naked.

1543
01:31:40,000 --> 01:31:44,500
I don't like that.
Why don't they have any clothes?

1544
01:31:44,800 --> 01:31:51,200
Because they're Yeti movement
having clothes that makes that

1545
01:31:51,200 --> 01:31:54,700
weird but statue even worse.
Well, that means the front.

1546
01:31:54,700 --> 01:31:56,200
He's just dangling.
Yes.

1547
01:31:56,700 --> 01:31:59,000
Hang on, this is not a man.
Was he does?

1548
01:31:59,000 --> 01:32:04,500
He just not gender in a gender?
Cryptid.

1549
01:32:04,500 --> 01:32:07,200
Yeah, hmm.
He's called The Mothman.

1550
01:32:07,200 --> 01:32:09,300
I assume.
That's because he looked like a

1551
01:32:09,300 --> 01:32:12,000
my lady doesn't like he look
like.

1552
01:32:14,700 --> 01:32:18,000
He's looking like a man.
Oh my goodness.

1553
01:32:19,500 --> 01:32:21,000
Let's see.
Another account.

1554
01:32:21,200 --> 01:32:26,600
March 19th. 1954.
It was an expedition team out

1555
01:32:26,600 --> 01:32:35,300
collecting hairs in the Ping,
pangboche monastery.

1556
01:32:38,200 --> 01:32:42,400
Now, they are collecting here.
Is that they believe where they

1557
01:32:42,400 --> 01:32:45,000
had come from the scalp of a
Yeti.

1558
01:32:45,800 --> 01:32:50,000
Okay.
Well, they brought the hairs to

1559
01:32:50,000 --> 01:32:57,200
be analyzed by a mini Professor.
What year was this 1954?

1560
01:32:57,200 --> 01:33:00,500
The fun thing about this is that
they're still doing this now.

1561
01:33:00,500 --> 01:33:02,800
Hmm.
People still find weird hair and

1562
01:33:02,800 --> 01:33:06,000
they can connect it to any
living or known creatures.

1563
01:33:06,100 --> 01:33:07,400
Sure.
And they're like, it's got to be

1564
01:33:07,400 --> 01:33:11,500
Yeti or a That's watch
Sasquatch.

1565
01:33:11,500 --> 01:33:14,300
Yeah.
That happened on the show that I

1566
01:33:14,308 --> 01:33:16,600
was telling you have to watch.
Yes, right Club.

1567
01:33:16,600 --> 01:33:21,600
They showed like a toenail that
was massive that they thought

1568
01:33:21,600 --> 01:33:25,200
belonged to a Bigfoot.
Oh my God, I'm going to watch

1569
01:33:25,200 --> 01:33:26,100
it.
I'm like this.

1570
01:33:26,100 --> 01:33:34,100
Oh my God, there's only watch
list. well, I thought about them

1571
01:33:34,100 --> 01:33:40,700
after I saw him wear them, so
he's an expert in human in

1572
01:33:42,200 --> 01:33:46,700
Goodness comparative.
Anatomy.

1573
01:33:47,000 --> 01:33:49,200
So human and compared
comparative Anatomy.

1574
01:33:49,300 --> 01:33:53,000
Yeah.
So after many tests they

1575
01:33:53,000 --> 01:33:55,100
couldn't tell what animals he's
here.

1576
01:33:55,100 --> 01:33:58,100
Came from.
So they like cut the hairs.

1577
01:33:58,100 --> 01:34:01,100
They bleach the hair is they did
so many things you like the

1578
01:34:03,800 --> 01:34:04,800
exactly.
Yeah.

1579
01:34:05,800 --> 01:34:08,400
So they couldn't it's all DNA
aspects to.

1580
01:34:08,400 --> 01:34:11,300
This is fine if it matches ours
or not, or other creatures.

1581
01:34:11,300 --> 01:34:18,700
Yeah, but they couldn't find out
what animal belong to but, He

1582
01:34:18,700 --> 01:34:26,800
first said that it wasn't from a
bear or an anthropods 80k, what

1583
01:34:26,800 --> 01:34:29,400
it was probably from a hoofed
animal.

1584
01:34:31,300 --> 01:34:35,400
So like a goat.
Yeah, but maybe a doesn't match

1585
01:34:35,400 --> 01:34:37,200
what it looks like.
Maybe a Sheepsquatch.

1586
01:34:40,800 --> 01:34:42,600
Squat.
Something

1587
01:34:53,100 --> 01:34:57,600
like this one.
So Yeti was supposed to

1588
01:34:57,600 --> 01:35:02,200
supposedly had been captured in
2011.

1589
01:35:03,700 --> 01:35:08,800
In Russia.
Okay, so a hunter he sees his

1590
01:35:08,800 --> 01:35:17,100
bare type thing, attacking his
sheep and in references today, I

1591
01:35:17,100 --> 01:35:22,600
know he fires his gun off and
the creature went away on two

1592
01:35:22,600 --> 01:35:24,600
legs.
Not for right?

1593
01:35:24,600 --> 01:35:28,800
So yeah.
What the heck is this big large

1594
01:35:28,800 --> 01:35:31,800
thing?
So I guess it was captured

1595
01:35:31,800 --> 01:35:36,000
afterwards.
And then, what was it?

1596
01:35:38,100 --> 01:35:39,700
If they captured it, what was
it?

1597
01:35:39,700 --> 01:35:44,300
And then they capture a female
one as well.

1598
01:35:44,400 --> 01:35:47,900
Ryan, what was it?
If they captured it, they have

1599
01:35:47,900 --> 01:35:52,400
to know what it is.
So, apparently, this turned out

1600
01:35:52,400 --> 01:35:58,600
to be a hoax.
That was, it was either a prank

1601
01:35:58,600 --> 01:36:01,700
or some type of advertisement,
take the thing.

1602
01:36:15,500 --> 01:36:18,700
Hilarious.
Like even if it is a yeti I'm

1603
01:36:18,700 --> 01:36:24,200
like what is this thing?
So there are some possible

1604
01:36:24,200 --> 01:36:27,100
explanations for what these
things that people are seeing.

1605
01:36:27,100 --> 01:36:35,200
Are they could be a bear.
The Bears are no common around

1606
01:36:36,100 --> 01:36:44,100
mountain ridges areas, maybe
could be a wolf.

1607
01:36:49,200 --> 01:36:51,000
Yes, far from home.
Yes.

1608
01:36:51,000 --> 01:36:53,800
Or maybe it's just like, I don't
know, I'm Missing Link.

1609
01:36:54,400 --> 01:36:56,100
Oh yeah, I've heard people say
that.

1610
01:36:56,100 --> 01:37:03,500
Yeah, maybe between humanity and
like homo sapiens. man, and

1611
01:37:03,500 --> 01:37:05,600
yeah, actually, I heard
something really interesting

1612
01:37:05,600 --> 01:37:11,600
about that which is that there
were multiple Versions of a homo

1613
01:37:11,600 --> 01:37:12,500
whatever.
Yeah.

1614
01:37:12,500 --> 01:37:16,600
Homo sapiens were the one that
we are and they all lived in

1615
01:37:16,600 --> 01:37:18,400
different parts of the world,
right?

1616
01:37:18,800 --> 01:37:24,800
And then they have found the
skeletons of other like Homo

1617
01:37:24,800 --> 01:37:29,600
erectus and other things and
those things have like wounds

1618
01:37:29,700 --> 01:37:34,600
like battle wounds so that there
were some kind of homo,

1619
01:37:34,600 --> 01:37:38,900
whatever, there's a war human
Wars and Homo sapiens were just

1620
01:37:38,900 --> 01:37:41,300
the winners.
Maybe we were just smart enough

1621
01:37:41,300 --> 01:37:46,300
to hide if you let those idea.
Yeah.

1622
01:37:48,000 --> 01:37:51,800
So there are different types of
Yeti creatures.

1623
01:37:54,000 --> 01:38:02,000
Oh yeah, there are.
There's a thing called a Zoot a

1624
01:38:02,300 --> 01:38:05,700
okay, it's translated as big
thing.

1625
01:38:07,200 --> 01:38:12,700
It's another vast nomenclature,
I love it, big thing, big thing,

1626
01:38:12,700 --> 01:38:18,000
human-like thing that thing over
there, it's oh, my gosh, it's

1627
01:38:18,000 --> 01:38:20,800
John.
This is true that John, this

1628
01:38:20,800 --> 01:38:25,400
John, if this literally the
same, it's John do.

1629
01:38:25,700 --> 01:38:29,100
Oh goodness, Jon.
Jon is a joint.

1630
01:38:29,100 --> 01:38:30,800
It's a giant.
Oh, it's a drunk.

1631
01:38:31,900 --> 01:38:36,900
John J A WN.
Yes, that is.

1632
01:38:36,900 --> 01:38:38,700
What is happening with this
nomenclature there?

1633
01:38:38,700 --> 01:38:40,000
Just like assistant.
John.

1634
01:38:40,100 --> 01:38:41,200
Oh my God.
Whatever.

1635
01:38:42,400 --> 01:38:43,800
The only thing I've ever seen
that's explained.

1636
01:38:43,800 --> 01:38:46,500
John correctly.
Is that movie with Michael B?

1637
01:38:46,500 --> 01:38:48,000
Jordan, no.
Yeah.

1638
01:38:49,300 --> 01:38:50,700
Creed.
It's a thing.

1639
01:38:51,000 --> 01:38:53,300
It's just the word for
everything in Philadelphia

1640
01:38:53,300 --> 01:38:54,900
thing.
It's, it's the word for

1641
01:38:54,900 --> 01:38:56,800
everything.
Like, you know, everything is a

1642
01:38:56,800 --> 01:39:01,300
jolt, anyway.
If you sneeze so closer, you get

1643
01:39:01,300 --> 01:39:03,600
to understanding that the better
off life will be for you.

1644
01:39:03,700 --> 01:39:06,700
So, this drawing is another
animal.

1645
01:39:06,700 --> 01:39:09,700
That's supposed to be a Yeti.
I like it's a big hulking

1646
01:39:09,700 --> 01:39:12,700
animal.
That's usually quadruped at it

1647
01:39:12,700 --> 01:39:17,200
though.
Hmm, But it can walk as a biped.

1648
01:39:17,200 --> 01:39:19,700
So it's kind of like barish
Right.

1649
01:39:19,700 --> 01:39:25,700
Okay, there's do that.
Yeah, so it may be a uncataloged

1650
01:39:25,800 --> 01:39:29,600
large bear.
I don't like the idea of there

1651
01:39:29,600 --> 01:39:31,200
being Bears, we don't know
about.

1652
01:39:31,200 --> 01:39:42,500
Yeah, they are quite scary.
So this animal, this Zoo to or

1653
01:39:42,500 --> 01:39:50,400
Des just to whatever they raid a
small livestock Holdings and

1654
01:39:50,400 --> 01:39:55,200
leave behind culprits.
So yeah.

1655
01:39:56,000 --> 01:40:01,200
So this may just be a bear a
bear that nobody sings.

1656
01:40:01,200 --> 01:40:06,700
It's a very large large bear.
Um okay there's another type,

1657
01:40:07,100 --> 01:40:14,100
it's called a tear.
I'm going to say Tela Maybe, is

1658
01:40:14,100 --> 01:40:19,300
it in an LMA?
I'm not, don't say that m is

1659
01:40:19,600 --> 01:40:24,300
silent.
So, it seems to be related to

1660
01:40:24,300 --> 01:40:29,600
arthropods.
Like the Proto pygmies.

1661
01:40:29,600 --> 01:40:35,700
Okay, so that those are spotted,
you know, in the tropical,

1662
01:40:35,700 --> 01:40:45,500
valleys of Asia.
Okay, so those things I guess

1663
01:40:45,500 --> 01:40:50,300
this was the major, the major
Yeti that had been seen and

1664
01:40:50,300 --> 01:40:56,000
discussed by zoologist, Who
thought it would be caught. so,

1665
01:40:57,500 --> 01:41:02,100
I guess they they they have not
found it.

1666
01:41:02,600 --> 01:41:07,900
This this Tesla or however you
pronounce it, okay?

1667
01:41:11,800 --> 01:41:15,000
But, you know, they found
evidence of its presence being

1668
01:41:15,000 --> 01:41:18,800
around like Footprints the so,
you know, there are sightings of

1669
01:41:18,800 --> 01:41:21,100
it.
They found some stool droppings

1670
01:41:21,100 --> 01:41:26,100
from it as well.
So, you know, they thought That,

1671
01:41:26,100 --> 01:41:28,300
you know, they were only on the
trail of, you know, tracking

1672
01:41:28,300 --> 01:41:35,800
this thing down and catching it.
But by 1960s fail basically they

1673
01:41:36,800 --> 01:41:41,200
they kind of ran out of funding
for that for catching it.

1674
01:41:41,200 --> 01:41:53,600
So the it's still on the loose
somewhere. but yeah, um Yeah.

1675
01:41:53,700 --> 01:41:57,800
Like I said, a lot of bears are
mistaken to be yetis and your

1676
01:41:57,800 --> 01:42:01,900
Yeti yetiz, yetiz.
I don't know.

1677
01:42:02,000 --> 01:42:04,400
I feel like, you feel like Yeti
is like moose.

1678
01:42:05,000 --> 01:42:08,400
Yeah, never say the ass.
Hey, this is mrs.

1679
01:42:11,000 --> 01:42:15,600
Moose, that's a squirrel and
moose moose and squirrel, and

1680
01:42:15,600 --> 01:42:16,800
some squirrel.
Okay.

1681
01:42:23,000 --> 01:42:25,400
There are some pop culture
references to the yeti.

1682
01:42:25,400 --> 01:42:28,400
Of course question, yes.
Has anybody ever seen?

1683
01:42:28,500 --> 01:42:31,100
Like, has there ever been a
first like, you know, like just

1684
01:42:31,100 --> 01:42:34,300
people like I was laying in bed
and an alien took me up into the

1685
01:42:34,300 --> 01:42:36,400
sky and I've been touched by an
alien.

1686
01:42:36,900 --> 01:42:39,100
So there's a first-hand account
have there been any first-hand

1687
01:42:39,100 --> 01:42:41,500
accounts of seeing a Yeti?
Are you asking if people who

1688
01:42:41,500 --> 01:42:45,100
have been touched by a yeti?
Like I saw a Yeti, it was right

1689
01:42:45,100 --> 01:42:47,600
there.
Not like it was ten hundred feet

1690
01:42:47,600 --> 01:42:50,000
away or like, I saw it up on a
mountain.

1691
01:42:50,200 --> 01:42:52,800
I'm going to say there are
people who Claimed to have seen

1692
01:42:52,800 --> 01:42:58,400
it like up close.
Okay, so here's a story that I

1693
01:42:58,400 --> 01:43:06,500
found while searching for Getty
stuff they put up So it's a new

1694
01:43:06,500 --> 01:43:09,700
story.
It's a headline reads artist

1695
01:43:09,700 --> 01:43:11,900
claims to had close encounter
with Yeti.

1696
01:43:11,900 --> 01:43:16,700
Okay?
So apparently, this is an artist

1697
01:43:16,700 --> 01:43:22,700
who Um, I guess he was doing
something his backyard and he,

1698
01:43:22,700 --> 01:43:27,700
you know, he sponsors Yeti and
the yeti just lets him draw him

1699
01:43:28,400 --> 01:43:34,500
on a piece of bark.
You want to see the picture?

1700
01:43:34,600 --> 01:43:38,700
No I'm I'm I just lay out and
draw me like one of your French

1701
01:43:38,700 --> 01:43:42,300
girls that's basically this is
is what the yeti wanted him to

1702
01:43:42,300 --> 01:43:45,500
do.
So that's the that's the piece

1703
01:43:45,500 --> 01:43:50,500
of tree that he drew the yeti on
and he the like the yes, let me

1704
01:43:50,500 --> 01:43:54,500
sketch it and this is like the
full picture of what it looked

1705
01:43:54,600 --> 01:43:57,100
like a really lovely photo.
He's an artist.

1706
01:43:58,700 --> 01:44:04,500
Like I mean he's an artist.
So I'm going to say I'm glad an

1707
01:44:04,500 --> 01:44:08,600
artist got to draw the Eddie.
Listen, you see me on Karthik

1708
01:44:08,600 --> 01:44:15,600
phone?
You're not Oh my God.

1709
01:44:16,500 --> 01:44:20,000
But yet like, this is like, the
only encounter I've seen that

1710
01:44:20,000 --> 01:44:22,100
like, hey, yeah, this Yeti was
up close to me.

1711
01:44:22,100 --> 01:44:25,500
He was nice and friendly.
He, let me draw him.

1712
01:44:25,800 --> 01:44:28,900
You know, we had a couple
bruised afterwards and he went

1713
01:44:28,900 --> 01:44:31,700
off hilarious.
He went off back into the you

1714
01:44:31,700 --> 01:44:34,600
know the Wilderness there was a
video on Friday Club there.

1715
01:44:34,600 --> 01:44:37,700
This guy he was like just
looking out his back window and

1716
01:44:37,700 --> 01:44:40,800
this very tall creature like
runs through the back you guess

1717
01:44:40,800 --> 01:44:45,400
his house is like back near a
forest and he likes Spazzed out.

1718
01:44:46,100 --> 01:44:48,400
And I'm like, that's the only
thing I ever kind of see like,

1719
01:44:48,400 --> 01:44:50,000
people like those kind of
situations.

1720
01:44:50,000 --> 01:44:51,600
Yeah.
It's just kind of doing its

1721
01:44:51,600 --> 01:44:54,700
thing and people are far away.
Basically the guy like went back

1722
01:44:54,700 --> 01:44:58,800
in his house he was like I'm not
walking out there smart man.

1723
01:45:00,200 --> 01:45:03,300
Oh my goodness.
Yeah that's that's why I got

1724
01:45:03,300 --> 01:45:07,300
this week 4.
Creeps Ryan.

1725
01:45:07,300 --> 01:45:08,500
It's still good.
It was.

1726
01:45:08,500 --> 01:45:12,500
This is fun.
Oh goodness.

1727
01:45:12,500 --> 01:45:14,400
Nothing spooky that.
I was that scary.

1728
01:45:14,400 --> 01:45:18,300
No, it's just a Yeti look.
So nice whatever they want to

1729
01:45:18,308 --> 01:45:20,100
do.
Sometimes Cryptids don't have to

1730
01:45:20,100 --> 01:45:22,400
be creepy.
They can just be interesting,

1731
01:45:23,900 --> 01:45:28,300
the dog and you made me sad the
which one Mothman ate the dog.

1732
01:45:28,400 --> 01:45:30,700
Don't watch.
We don't know what happened to

1733
01:45:30,700 --> 01:45:34,300
the dog.
I'll never forgive you, he just

1734
01:45:35,100 --> 01:45:38,000
Disappeared after spotting them
off man.

1735
01:45:38,800 --> 01:45:41,600
Nope.
Oh my God, you got eight.

1736
01:45:43,300 --> 01:45:46,900
The dog may have gotten eaten by
the Mothman giant bug, man, who

1737
01:45:46,900 --> 01:45:51,000
knows dad?
Anyway, thanks for listening as

1738
01:45:51,000 --> 01:45:53,500
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1739
01:45:53,500 --> 01:45:56,300
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1740
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1741
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1760
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