Episode 23. Ed Gein: Don't Let Him Decorate Your Home

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Everybody in serial killer
country.

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My name is Brittany.
Ransom, and my name is Brian jr.

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And this is when Killers get
caught a podcast devoted to deep

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dives, into the lives.
And psyches of the Eller's, we

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love to learn about each week.
Brian, I find a True Crime Story

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that resonated with us and I
will discuss one well-known or

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lesser known killer go deep into
their childhood lies

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methodology, and most
importantly how they got caught,

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and then we get a little spooky
and we'll learn something about

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Cryptids or the supernatural
with Brian.

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Ye never know what to say.
That's me.

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Yes, that's me.
But yeah, so I guess it's just

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said, but we don't have any
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No.
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lighter weight shirt, that's a
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People who like those like Fitz.
I would hope they don't want to

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be.
Sweaty.

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They're black shirts too.
Well, they can get them in

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different colors.
Okay.

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Well, the ones that we got her
black shirts because you, and I

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have dark dark souls.
This is true.

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But yeah, that's something
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We are working on setting up a
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Yes, we're getting that, we can
maintain kind of a less add

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Centric podcast.
Nobody likes to have the action

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disrupted multiple times.
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said less ads but that way, we
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Exactly.
Lady.

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Hey, but either way, this
weekend, true cry, I happened to

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come across a video of the New
York Post about a woman who, how

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do I explain this?
So she got arrested first, we'll

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explain that part.
First, she got arrested for

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like, oh, here we go.
So her name is Jessica Boomer

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shine and this happen In Ohio
and she was arrested for

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breaking into an 85 year old
home and assaulting him at

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gunpoint.
And so she's in Dayton Ohio and

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like, the booking area.
And so there's a video.

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The video is Hershey while she's
waiting for booking.

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I don't know why she thought
this would work, but she stands

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up on her chair and tries to
climb into the ceiling and her

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video camera.
Yes, there is a, this video

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footage.
Okay.

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So you guys CTU.
So going on.

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Okay?
And she, like, wriggles through

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the ceiling, but like, is I
always say this to people all

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the time.
It's not like the movies.

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Those drop ceilings cannot, hold
people wait.

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Oh no.
And so, she immediately falls

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back down.
As soon as she gets up, like,

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they can barely.
I bet they couldn't even hold my

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weight.
And so on top of facing, you

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know, armed robbery charges and
assaulting an 85 year old man.

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She's now facing charges for For
trying to escape prison that she

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hadn't even gotten into yet, my
God and destruction of property

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for ruining their ceiling.
In central booking girl, you

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just you should just sit in your
seat.

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She's looking, she's a little
bruised in the face when I saw

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her like, well, you know, from
the filigree, I think she was

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like a lot falls down and then
she's like, dangling, so yeah,

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you can look it up.
Online.

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Her name is Jessica Boomer shine
and poor Jessica, no more.

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Jessica other fault.
People are Not the smartest

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things don't work out the way
movie.

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No, no, no.
But that was the one that I saw

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and I just chuckled for entirely
too long time.

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Hilarious.
Hey, Mission possible.

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Yeah, Mission Impossible.
That's true impossible.

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You going to get out of prison?
Bam.

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Like what?
Like and and like it's not even

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like because when I first saw
like, you know, apparent

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jailbreak comes crashing down.
I thought maybe she was in

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prison and she had orchestrated
some sort of a Prison Break.

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Break.
She was barely in.

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She had just gotten arrested in
the booking section.

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Oh my goodness.
Well, yeah.

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And then she like a foul on like
a trashcan.

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It was just totally like you.
You comedy?

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You poor stupid idiot.
That's really what you got to

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say you poor idiot.
Oh goodness, okay.

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Well hey guess what what?
I got a story from PA.

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Oh good, I love this.
One comes from Lackawanna

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County.
I couldn't point that out on a

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map.
I think it's East Northeast from

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I think Northeast from I think
it's like Eastern.

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So like heading towards New
York, I think it's heading

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towards like Like want to, like,
I want to come on.

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I know where that's at.
I think I've driven by their

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sounds familiar but I couldn't
pull a map.

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I think it's around.
The area has to be running are

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anyway.
Headline reads, police break up

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exorcism at p8 Hometown about 10
times across all of my

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Pennsylvanian groups even in my
local community like

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neighborhood group.
This was posted, I found this

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was, this is actually opposed to
in pain live.

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So it's been everywhere.
All weekend.

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End.
I I've been holding on to this.

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I was like, I saw it.
It was like, saving you for

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Monday.
I'm trying to like look at the

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map right now.
Where are you?

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But it happened in Lackawanna.
I didn't see where it happened.

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So it says, police and
Lackawanna County broke up an

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exorcism in the lumber aisle of
a home improvement store Monday.

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It was a Home Depot.
So this was last Monday of the

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24th.
Yeah, it was a Home Depot.

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So it says, right I guess.
So it's not far from Scranton.

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Yes.
Like I said, Northeastern

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Everybody knows screen.
Yeah, the life of City.

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Yes, the whole office Electric
City Electric City.

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They know is the electric city.
Nothing.

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Going on his grain.
Oh my God, I'm sorry, I'm such a

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filly snob, I'm so sorry
terrible.

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I only love Philadelphia and I'm
sad.

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I'm not there now.
He gotta get some respect this

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great and just a little bit.
I want to go back.

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Look for substrate and I know no
to Philly.

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It says details of scares.
What was actually going on

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inside the Home Depot for what?
Okay.

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Did they say why they were doing
the exorcism?

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It says for bed.
It said it.

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Well, it says they were the
police came.

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They scored people out for bad
behavior.

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It was because of the trees.
Yes, yes, yes, it's trying to

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exorcism Spirits out.
The exorcism was held for the

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trees.
I had to turn into Lumber.

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Yep.
Beautiful, yeah.

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That's what I think of when I
think of Pennsylvania that sort

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of weirdness.
I don't even know how that would

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work.
I've seen exorcisms before.

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Well, you know, you know,
movies.

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Move Emily Rose.
And well, I was thinking like,

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what?
Rosewood level of Rosewood Emily

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Rose?
Would you go?

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Oh my God, but I just don't know
how to work out.

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You drove a holy water onto the
lumber.

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Yep, it's been everywhere.
Like, that's crazy.

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Um, yeah.
So this easy but it definitely,

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I'd like, I definitely did see
an article from Philadelphia

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that said it was Home Depot.
Definitely Home Depot is what it

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says, it says, 3. 06 comers
Boulevard at 3:26 p.m. comers

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move.
Our at Home Depot.

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Yeah.
Well you know, 3 p.m. is the

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witching hour, according to the
spook it's 3:30 a.m. they had to

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be 3:30 a.m.
It could have been 3:30 p.m. oh

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my goodness, listen 333, that's
when the demons come out 12

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afternoon and in the morning.
But we're the trees haunting

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Lindsey Graham's, you kids get
off of school because that is

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what the demons get out.
This is true.

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Now that makes a lot of sense
now.

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Anyway, we're that.
It doesn't say if the trees if

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they thought the trees were
haunting the Home Depot or what

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is that mean?
I could assume one would think,

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if you think that everything has
a spirit.

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Maybe everything is haunting
everything.

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Yeah, I guess, maybe he wanted
to release his spirits.

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The tree Spirit I'm even is
haunting me.

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Oh my God!
The walls are made of wood

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aren't they?
Inside my drawer?

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Listen.
This building is not me that

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there's gotta be something in
here.

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You think it's boring?
Yeah, but that's about it.

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But send the wall show enough
are not concrete because I can

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hear everything that's true.
Somebody's upstairs.

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They're made out of paper.
I can hear that hammer.

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So it wasn't made out of paper.
So there you go.

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I don't complain because I feel
like if you live in an apartment

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you just got to live with that
stuff.

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That's true.
It's true.

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You do you have not earned the
right of privacy?

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Um, two more things it says
closed. 200 comments on the post

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LG have begged for more details.
They're not give me more details

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and then it says there's no
indication incident had anything

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to do with the price of lumber.
So wow.

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And it says, according to
reports, no charges have been

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filed at this time.
So I just want to know what that

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looked like, same.
I just want to like, who was

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there working at Home Depot and
they like, turn the aisle taken

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like, well, Paula and James who
are redoing their R bathroom

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into the hole and there's just a
bunch of people in capes.

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I just want to see someone
posted ticks talk about because

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I know there's one out there has
to be a video of it out there.

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Home Depot employees, come on.
Help me out.

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I want to watch some videos.
Well, the did you see the

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original Facebook post?
Because what it was, it was a

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list of all of the criminal
activity that happened on June

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21st.
So it was like, you know, 12

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a.m. we were looking for a
juvenile who was out when they

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weren't supposed to be and to 15
assault.

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Out to 58.
Looking for the same people who

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saw the people earlier.
God, 8:13 a.m. debris in the

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roadway 823 suspicious person on
this blog, 836 Dollar, Tree lot

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for a dog waste complaint also
is Lackawanna that free from

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crime that you call.
When you see poop, it's great

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and we know it's great and it's
up in Reading area, I'm not sure

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but yeah there was a traffic
stop traffic stop welfare check

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on a person.
And then, all of a sudden, it

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gets 2326 disorderly.
People having an exorcism in the

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lumber aisle for dead tree, they
were escorted out of the

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building.
And what happened was somebody

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circled that and it got posted
in my had to be Pennsylvania,

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group, and people were like, I
don't even care about the rest

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of the day kids.
Someone please give us more

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details about this.
That's all I do.

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What I want more details about
this exorcism.

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I need to know what the hell.
Yeah.

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You know what, those someone
that I says, why would someone

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call the police for dog poop in
a parking lot?

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So once it's probably because
somebody stepped in when they

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were getting out of her car, it
was right next to where they go,

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like are But who knows they have
II?

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That's been the talk of
Pennsylvania which is let you

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know what's going on,
Pennsylvania?

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Not much happening saying.
This is where we are.

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Y'all pennsatucky is still
pennsatucky.

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There you go.
That's that's what I got for

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this week.
When Killers get caught is

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sponsored by the magic class
Boutique.

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Now, why does that name sound so
familiar?

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Well, it's because as a business
ran by our very own Britney,

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that's right.
The magic class Boutique is not

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only a black-owned business.
Its wave woman-owned is well,

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this is a jewelry company and I
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about this week, I have been
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call like the big time in serial
killers in our, like, first year

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of doing this podcast, that's,
you know, Bundy Ramirez Dahmer,

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Raider Ridgeway gay seek a
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not just because I find them to
be overdone, but there's

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actually like such a sheer
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Of sources to sift through and
so many different opinions that

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I find it very overwhelming and
I would also like to be able to

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hire a researcher help me with
the work for those kind of big

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ones. but, That said I've been
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big time.
Okay who doesn't have that many

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murders under his belt and it's
a hotly debated topic of that

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whether he's a serial killer or
not because of the number of

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kills Who do you think I'm
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I don't know, thinking racking
my brain over here.

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I don't know, Tommy, well, I'll
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He his like story is the
backstory for some very iconic

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horror movies.
Psycho Texas, Chainsaw Silence

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of the Lambs.
So anybody else who's listening

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and like, probably banging your
head on your car stealing, I

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will shut up again and so to a
piece of our fans who keep

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wanting to know what my opinion,
on some of the Big Ten are and

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also to satisfy my brains need
to like mull over him for the

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last couple of weeks.
I decided that we were going to

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talk about.
Again, like I said, he inspired

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psycho because of the
inappropriate relationship.

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He had with his mother, Texas
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whole wearing people skin and so
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wearing people skin.
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listening, know a lot about him,
but I do hope you learned

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something new because this is
going to be more at.

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This is heavier into the people
who raised him and his family

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long before he became the, the
body snatcher that we know of

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where the the Butcher of
Plainfield But yeah, a lot of

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this, what we're more, what
started me on the rabbit hole

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here is a book called deviant
the Shocking, True Story of Ed

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Gein.
The original Psycho by Harold,

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Schechter, and that's where a
lot.

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I found a lot of the history of
his family.

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Hmm.
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So before we talk about Edward
Theodore game or game game, I

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don't know.
It's a German name.

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Let's talk a little bit about
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He was born into and how I would
say it almost seemed like his

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family started in tragedy.
So we're checking 1879.

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George Keen is a little boy.
He's only 3 years old.

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His family has a farm on Coon
Valley Wisconsin, which is about

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15 miles outside of La Crosse.
Wisconsin, George's mother,

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father, and older sister get
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They set out to go to town and
they all died.

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Well, sounds like Jojo, the
family got caught in a flash

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flood JoJo, borrows from a lot
of history, but the family got

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caught in a flash flood while
they were trying to cross the

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Mississippi River, which I
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all of America and George was
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He was taken in by his maternal,
grandparents, who lived in an

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ear at a nearby Farm.
There aren't a whole lot of

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details about his life here,
especially since it was 1800s.

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Midwest, orphans are actually
really common in history back

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then because of how hard life
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Yeah, okay.
Outside of his family dying when

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he was a child, he lived a very
mundane and kind of normal early

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life.
He went to elementary school.

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He began an apprenticeship at a
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He did that in his twenties.
Until he decided that Country

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Life wasn't really for him and
he moved to the nearest like

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bigger city.
Another common aspect of both

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adolescents than and now we all
turn, you know, 18 and want to

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like run away very true.
That's not what I did.

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I left here when lived in
Philadelphia from a decade but

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George got.
As far as La Crosse, he was a

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Drifter who couldn't really keep
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He sold insurance, he tried to
Apprentice as a carpenter, he

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worked at a Tannery, he worked
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He got a job working on.
Chicago, Milwaukee, and st.

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Paul, Railway back, when there
were just like a couple of

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routes, both of my sources
mentioned that.

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During this time, he picked up a
mighty, big drinking habit, like

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not just, but like, all of the
sources reference, the fact that

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while when he moved it across,
he picked up the bottle, he

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liked to drink, he liked the
sauce.

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Hayes, General Schedule was go
to work.

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Make his day right?
Hit the saloon.

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End it all.
I mean.

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He didn't have any other
responsibilities, he's that he's

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go home and feel kind of bad
about himself, which I got to

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tell you.
There's a song of prompted by my

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Tick-Tock that was just like,
why do I feel bad?

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You only sleep four hours a week
know that.

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Is it gonna sleep four hours a
night?

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I was like, why is this person?
Yeah, that's me on the internet.

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Yeah, that'd be me.
It was like she was like, I feel

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terrible.
You eat terribly and I was just

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like, buddy, no.
I'll call me out.

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Why is it so loud?
but, I didn't, it probably

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wasn't helping his mental health
and feelings.

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Yeah, no, I mean, alcoholism
somehow during this time, he

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manages to find a woman, the
woman that he would marry.

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And her name was Augusta.
She's from a large family, whose

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patriarch had emigrated here in
1970 from Germany.

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They settled in La Crosse
immediately and then George

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Augustus met in 1899, Georgia,
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And Augusta was 19 and Augusta
was described in so many

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different things.
As a thick-set, buxom woman with

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a face permanently fixed, in a
look of fierce determination and

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self-assurance.
So she was a boss.

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She had a boss looking.
She was a thick thick lady with

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a boss attitude.
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Apparently and apparently George
thought that was quite lovely.

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I mean, who doesn't mean?
She's also very religiously

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though extremely so never mind
like she really thought the

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modern world was very immoral.
She is raised um what her family

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called like Old World values and
she did not like the looseness

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of the youth.
And she was exactly like her dad

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who was a very strict
disciplinarian, who thought that

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their way beliefs were the only
way that one could be.

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Now I haven't really described
what George look like but he's

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described as being a strong
Simple Man.

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Reserved dignified he and
Augusta were both Lutheran and

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he absolutely hit his alcoholism
from her of course I mean

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because that goes Super against
being religious.

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But George found her personality
be quite impressive.

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She always handled things she
had the family that he wished

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he'd always had and Augusta and
never really been sought after

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by men.
So I think she was very

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flattered by the attention and
she felt that they shared the

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same values because they were
Christian.

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He they got married a few months
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And that's kind of the beginning
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That's it.
Nothing.

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Well, it gets bad.
The good part ends.

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At that part, that's just the
way they were both or tending to

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be the best versions of
themselves.

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That's a good part of my God.
Okay, well, Augusta realizes

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very quickly that she's
connected to a man who is

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unreliable financially and she
isn't too happy with the drink.

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Hmm, to try and keep the
household running, she kind of

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leaned into her worst traits
becoming more, like hard and

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more rigid and more intolerant.
Because for her, she was like

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stuck with kind of like a
worthless schmuck who couldn't

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keep a job and had no ambition.
It responded to her behavior

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with withdrawing into himself
and refusing to speak at all

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when he was home.
Oh, sometimes he'd come back

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from the bar, they get into a
fight, he'd hit her.

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Okay, I'm not sure why they
thought a child would fix their

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relationship.
A lot of people do, but they

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decided they were going to do it
and so they had a baby boy.

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January 17th 1902, his name is
Henry.

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And Henry didn't have, well,
I'll say this early on Henry,

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didn't have a great life and he
died very, very young.

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No.
But there were a lot of weird

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deaths around this family and
I'll get into those little bit

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later.
Augusta didn't feel all that

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close to her first child and she
figured it was because he was a

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boy So she decided she was like,
I guess I'll just put up with

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sex with my husband until she
gets pregnant a second time.

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Oh my God.
That's giving birth to Edward

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Theodore game.
Another boys though, August 27th

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1906 and I was gonna be the last
one because she wasn't gonna do

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this no more.
What are you just gonna treat

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your kids just poorly?
Well, you're one came out to be

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a mad dad, this episode sir, I
hate this.

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Okay, so I guess was pretty
upset.

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She didn't have a girl, but she
decided if I'm going to have two

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boys, I'm going to raise them to
be better than their father and

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better than most men.
There you go.

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That's what you supposed to do.
But I guess it gets worse.

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It's bad.
Well, George is struggling to

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find work after the boys.
Both boys are born.

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And Augusta is like, listen,
both of my brothers are

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Merchants, you could just become
an entrepreneur and like I think

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as you and I both know not,
everyone is cut out for that

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life.
See see?

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So she thought though, that
there was no way that he could

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ruin this because like it's he's
working for himself, he makes

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money, he keeps the money but he
just didn't have the motivation

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for anything and you can tell in
the records because there's a

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lacrosse city directory.
And in 1909 he is listed as the

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owner of a small grocery store
and 914 Caledonia Street.

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And two years later, the owner
is listed as Augusta Gein.

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And George has been demoted to
clerk.

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What the hell?
It's in the record.

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How do you go from owning your
own grocery store to being just

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a freaking clerk?
Yep.

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And your wife just took your
business from you.

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She's like Fuck.
You think this saying you're not

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going to be the work.
What he did do was he worked as

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a clerk.
Be also like did a lot of

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Butchery.
Hmm.

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He like when they got animals in
it was like a shed out behind

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the grow, the grocery store.
And the boys were told never to

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go there, but it does have a
memory of when he was fairly

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young sneaking out back.
Back and being kind of shocked

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as hell to see sissy like, like
a carcass hanging from the

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ceiling.
Right?

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Right.
Yeah.

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Okay.
Probably not a good idea.

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Yeah, not for kids.
Damn man, you got damn.

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Okay.
The first couple years of Eddie

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and Howard's life, it's okay.
They're babies so you can't

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really do too much with like
their little true.

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But Augusta was very much, a
serious disciplinarian and then

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around the time that Ed is 7.
By the time he turns seven,

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she's completely the head of the
household 1913.

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She decides that the gain family
weren't going to be emergency

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more, and she sells that
business so that they can become

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Farmers.
Because in her head she was

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like, well, if we're landowners,
that's some kind of wealth.

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And she wanted to remove her
children from the very Wicked

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Ways of the city.
So they moved to a small dairy

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farm in the lowlands near Camp
Douglas which is about 40 miles

451
00:26:02,100 --> 00:26:04,400
east of La Crosse.
But they only stay there for a

452
00:26:04,400 --> 00:26:08,500
year because Augusta who still
trying to seek out wealth.

453
00:26:08,900 --> 00:26:12,300
Finds a larger piece of land
that she could afford and they

454
00:26:12,300 --> 00:26:17,700
moved there in 1914. 195, Acre
Farm in Plainfield known to the

455
00:26:17,700 --> 00:26:19,800
locals as the old John
Greenfield Place.

456
00:26:20,600 --> 00:26:23,400
Yeah, this deed was 100% in her
name.

457
00:26:24,900 --> 00:26:27,600
Unlike most families where the
lamb was in the husband's name

458
00:26:28,100 --> 00:26:30,200
and Augusta was, you know,
living the best life.

459
00:26:30,200 --> 00:26:32,300
She didn't get him as cosine or
nothing like that.

460
00:26:32,800 --> 00:26:36,200
No little, like tiny pieces.
It's also like massive at this

461
00:26:36,200 --> 00:26:38,700
point.
Like, you got an eight-year-old

462
00:26:38,800 --> 00:26:43,100
tagging or old a man who's not
doing a whole lot and a woman

463
00:26:43,100 --> 00:26:47,200
who's a couple of like, is he
like a farmhand at least he

464
00:26:47,200 --> 00:26:58,100
helped around originally and, It
was his massive for a

465
00:26:58,100 --> 00:27:03,100
four-person family, right?
She didn't have to like chase

466
00:27:03,100 --> 00:27:04,700
after the boys.
The tell him to stop trying to

467
00:27:04,700 --> 00:27:11,500
watch the animals get butchered.
But there were other, like, I

468
00:27:11,508 --> 00:27:16,500
would say issues with having
such a big property and also

469
00:27:16,500 --> 00:27:18,600
having small children doing the
work there, but I'll get into

470
00:27:18,600 --> 00:27:19,800
that.
I mean, yeah, they probably got

471
00:27:19,800 --> 00:27:22,900
lost somewhere.
Yeah, she decorated the house.

472
00:27:22,900 --> 00:27:26,700
Very chaste in terms of
Furnishing furnishings and like

473
00:27:26,700 --> 00:27:31,600
the nicest things went to their
parlor for and here's where like

474
00:27:31,600 --> 00:27:34,400
the issues come from.
They were very isolated on this

475
00:27:34,400 --> 00:27:36,700
Farm.
Like the closest like neighbors

476
00:27:36,700 --> 00:27:41,000
were like a good like Mile away
from there, like main house.

477
00:27:45,600 --> 00:27:47,700
But for our children, this was
awful.

478
00:27:48,300 --> 00:27:51,800
Like she found the locals to be
morally, reprehensible and she

479
00:27:51,800 --> 00:27:53,800
said about continuing to teach
our children.

480
00:27:53,800 --> 00:27:56,000
The whole, you know, God fire
Brimstone.

481
00:27:57,300 --> 00:28:00,300
And she had a real like kind of
haughty attitude about her farm

482
00:28:00,600 --> 00:28:02,600
and how she kept it really
beautiful.

483
00:28:02,600 --> 00:28:06,000
And like, she thought people
were jealous of her and the

484
00:28:06,000 --> 00:28:09,200
locals were particularly fond of
her, but she didn't care, like,

485
00:28:09,200 --> 00:28:12,400
it's for her, sons were the only
friends that she needed.

486
00:28:12,400 --> 00:28:16,800
Oh, Now, Augusta love the idea
of keeping her kids isolated,

487
00:28:16,800 --> 00:28:19,500
but she couldn't keep them 100%
of way from the ills of the

488
00:28:19,500 --> 00:28:20,800
world, because they had to go to
school.

489
00:28:21,600 --> 00:28:24,900
And so, ever started attending
the Rocha Creek grade school,

490
00:28:24,900 --> 00:28:27,500
which is a small school house
that had one room in 12 kids.

491
00:28:28,000 --> 00:28:30,700
And then later, that's cool
merged with a larger school

492
00:28:30,700 --> 00:28:33,300
called the white school and he
was there from 8 years old to

493
00:28:33,300 --> 00:28:35,900
16.
And at that time your formal

494
00:28:35,900 --> 00:28:38,900
education was pretty much over
unless you want to go to college

495
00:28:39,500 --> 00:28:42,100
as a student.
Ed was, he's capable but kind of

496
00:28:42,100 --> 00:28:45,600
lackluster, kind of like it.
Dad years later after he was

497
00:28:45,600 --> 00:28:48,900
caught and his crimes.
In public, they put him under

498
00:28:48,900 --> 00:28:53,000
just a boatload of psychological
tests and IQ test and learned

499
00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:55,500
that he had an average IQ for
people of the time.

500
00:28:55,600 --> 00:28:58,600
Hmm.
Ed was a really good reader

501
00:28:58,600 --> 00:29:01,000
though, and like a lot of really
quiet kids.

502
00:29:01,300 --> 00:29:04,200
He filled his time with books of
All Sorts, including some that

503
00:29:04,200 --> 00:29:06,100
were weird and we'll talk about
that later.

504
00:29:07,400 --> 00:29:08,600
Like I said, he was a really
quiet kid.

505
00:29:08,600 --> 00:29:11,200
He didn't have a lot of friends.
He spent his full-time of the

506
00:29:11,200 --> 00:29:15,300
only he could relate to his
Smooth made to were all friends

507
00:29:15,500 --> 00:29:18,200
and he wanted to be accepted so
he tried to imitate them but it

508
00:29:18,200 --> 00:29:22,300
didn't really work every.
So often he would like almost

509
00:29:22,300 --> 00:29:24,900
get there and like almost make a
friends would be like look

510
00:29:24,900 --> 00:29:28,100
socialization.
And he come home and he'd tell

511
00:29:28,100 --> 00:29:31,800
his mom like, oh, I met this kid
and his mom would immediately

512
00:29:31,800 --> 00:29:33,400
squash it.
She tell him that that kids

513
00:29:33,400 --> 00:29:37,100
family and a bad reputation or
that the mom was a woman of

514
00:29:37,100 --> 00:29:39,700
questionable.
Moral fiber from before she got

515
00:29:39,700 --> 00:29:42,400
married.
Santa kid are rumors about that

516
00:29:42,400 --> 00:29:45,900
boy's father.
Other and because as like adored

517
00:29:45,900 --> 00:29:50,100
her, he was like, okay.
And he would go back to school

518
00:29:50,100 --> 00:29:51,500
and he wouldn't talk to that kid
anymore.

519
00:29:51,500 --> 00:29:53,400
Yeah.
Yeah.

520
00:29:54,900 --> 00:29:57,500
So I will say this while the
other kids saw that he was

521
00:29:57,500 --> 00:29:59,900
weird.
There were none of the big

522
00:29:59,900 --> 00:30:03,400
three, you know, serial killer
ticks that we learned about in

523
00:30:03,400 --> 00:30:06,000
the modern era.
He never went to bed, he never

524
00:30:06,000 --> 00:30:08,600
set fires, he never harmed
animals and he's a child.

525
00:30:08,800 --> 00:30:12,200
Any head injuries.
Hmm, no, huh?

526
00:30:13,400 --> 00:30:16,600
There's absolutely nothing in
his childhood that would show

527
00:30:16,800 --> 00:30:21,600
that he would suffer from such
severe psychosis. 40 years

528
00:30:21,600 --> 00:30:22,400
later.
Hmm.

529
00:30:22,800 --> 00:30:24,000
Interesting.
Okay.

530
00:30:24,800 --> 00:30:27,600
Maybe with the amount of
understanding we have about

531
00:30:27,600 --> 00:30:30,900
these things.
Now, like a gifted psychiatrist

532
00:30:30,900 --> 00:30:34,700
might have seen it, but he was
just like, a weird kid with a

533
00:30:34,700 --> 00:30:37,000
goofy grin and like, a little
lazy eye.

534
00:30:37,000 --> 00:30:39,400
It not talk to people, and he
laughed at weird jokes that he

535
00:30:39,400 --> 00:30:42,800
made himself, who doesn't?
He also stared at the girls in

536
00:30:42,800 --> 00:30:44,700
his classroom, but he never
touched anybody.

537
00:30:44,700 --> 00:30:46,500
Or try to do anything
inappropriate?

538
00:30:46,500 --> 00:30:50,300
Okay, I mean, we hold on a sec.
So bear wedding is like, a big

539
00:30:50,900 --> 00:30:53,300
Yeah, that's one of the three
things that they've determined

540
00:30:53,300 --> 00:30:56,300
is a sign of.
It's not just bedwetting, but

541
00:30:56,300 --> 00:30:58,100
it's bedwetting well into the
teenage years.

542
00:30:58,700 --> 00:31:00,500
Okay.
Not like your kids like just

543
00:31:00,500 --> 00:31:05,800
potty training and having issues
like not like you are 21 and you

544
00:31:05,808 --> 00:31:08,200
drank too much and you forgot to
get out of bed.

545
00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:11,100
No this is like it's consistent.
Bedwetting.

546
00:31:11,100 --> 00:31:12,900
Well into your teenager.
Okay.

547
00:31:13,100 --> 00:31:17,800
Okay, thank you for clarifying
hoes like I'm not worried which

548
00:31:17,800 --> 00:31:22,700
please explain more.
I've died.

549
00:31:22,700 --> 00:31:25,000
I'm not where I was I were you
worried about yourself, right?

550
00:31:25,100 --> 00:31:26,200
This isn't guy.
What?

551
00:31:26,200 --> 00:31:29,100
Yes, exactly.
Little toomai 30s is still

552
00:31:29,100 --> 00:31:32,300
wetting the bed.
Watch out for me people.

553
00:31:32,300 --> 00:31:33,900
That's the age of serial
killers.

554
00:31:34,500 --> 00:31:37,000
One of the issues he had.
It's cool that he was considered

555
00:31:37,000 --> 00:31:39,100
to be a bit effeminate and his
mannerisms.

556
00:31:39,500 --> 00:31:43,300
He cried a lot and like he
couldn't take a joke like any

557
00:31:43,300 --> 00:31:45,100
sort of teasing he couldn't
handle it.

558
00:31:45,400 --> 00:31:47,800
Like one story that was
referenced in Harold.

559
00:31:47,800 --> 00:31:50,500
Schechter's book.
Was that somebody like mentioned

560
00:31:50,500 --> 00:31:53,300
that He had a bag on his life
because he had this like skin

561
00:31:53,300 --> 00:31:55,100
tag that his mom never got cut
off.

562
00:31:55,400 --> 00:31:59,900
And so, like, he just mentioned
it and like it was no, like, you

563
00:31:59,908 --> 00:32:02,700
know, like sometimes kids like
someone says something.

564
00:32:02,700 --> 00:32:04,900
So somebody says something back
to them, he didn't have that in

565
00:32:04,900 --> 00:32:07,000
him at all.
Yeah, he just started sobbing

566
00:32:07,300 --> 00:32:09,200
and they were just like, oh my
God, like what?

567
00:32:09,200 --> 00:32:12,600
I was wrong with him.
And so for him this like, even a

568
00:32:12,608 --> 00:32:14,100
little bit of teasing that would
happen.

569
00:32:14,300 --> 00:32:16,100
He was just like, oh, my mom's
right?

570
00:32:16,100 --> 00:32:21,500
These people are horrible.
So that's kind of like like how

571
00:32:21,500 --> 00:32:24,700
he grew up and during the years
that end Henry were in

572
00:32:24,700 --> 00:32:29,200
elementary school, the family
was financially struggling,

573
00:32:30,700 --> 00:32:33,600
Augustus purchase of this,
massive plot of land.

574
00:32:33,600 --> 00:32:35,800
Proved to be more difficult than
she imagined.

575
00:32:36,300 --> 00:32:38,700
They were always worried if they
had enough food to feed

576
00:32:38,700 --> 00:32:43,100
themselves by the time that Ed
was a teenager, his father had

577
00:32:43,100 --> 00:32:46,000
stopped working on the farm.
At all.

578
00:32:47,000 --> 00:32:50,700
And he just spent his time
laying out drinking abusing both

579
00:32:50,700 --> 00:32:54,600
of his wife and children,
whenever we were little, he

580
00:32:54,600 --> 00:32:57,000
would physically hit them.
But by the time they were

581
00:32:57,000 --> 00:32:59,600
teenagers even though they were
smaller than your average.

582
00:32:59,600 --> 00:33:02,700
Teen at the time, they were far
too big to be hit.

583
00:33:02,700 --> 00:33:04,600
He wasn't trying to, you know,
get that smoke.

584
00:33:04,600 --> 00:33:09,100
Okay, how I just wanted to
mention, I just want to say, how

585
00:33:09,100 --> 00:33:12,600
are you, man?
Just laying around.

586
00:33:13,700 --> 00:33:17,100
Do nothing.
He needs the prize here, abusing

587
00:33:17,100 --> 00:33:19,300
your family.
How do you do that?

588
00:33:19,300 --> 00:33:23,600
Entire groups of men who
specifically seek out women like

589
00:33:23,600 --> 00:33:26,700
myself, who are a little on the
bigger side so that they can

590
00:33:26,700 --> 00:33:29,300
live off of them because they're
like, oh well, you know, she

591
00:33:29,300 --> 00:33:34,300
can't get anybody, so fuck that,
shit stupid, and then try and

592
00:33:34,300 --> 00:33:38,400
like live off of you.
And then yeah, when they were

593
00:33:38,400 --> 00:33:40,100
teenagers, I bet he didn't want
that smoke.

594
00:33:40,200 --> 00:33:42,200
No, he didn't want that smoke.
Once they got bigger, of course,

595
00:33:42,200 --> 00:33:45,200
but what he would do is he would
like rant and Rave and like

596
00:33:45,200 --> 00:33:47,800
scream at them and insult.
That was such a cool, dude.

597
00:33:50,400 --> 00:33:55,600
Yeah.
Apparently, there was an

598
00:33:55,600 --> 00:33:59,300
argument that ad remember, very
vividly when he was being

599
00:33:59,300 --> 00:34:02,900
interviewed where his father
like accused Augusta of cheating

600
00:34:02,900 --> 00:34:06,600
on him, which is so out of like
her morale.

601
00:34:06,900 --> 00:34:11,000
Like guideline and besides that
she didn't have any time and she

602
00:34:11,000 --> 00:34:13,699
on anybody because she was
working on the farm or cleaning

603
00:34:13,699 --> 00:34:15,800
the fucking hell working her
asshole.

604
00:34:15,800 --> 00:34:19,800
Yeah.
Um but I guess it took the

605
00:34:19,800 --> 00:34:24,100
beatings and the physical and
verbal abuse woman.

606
00:34:24,100 --> 00:34:27,000
She will because God said
divorce is wrong and her

607
00:34:27,000 --> 00:34:29,699
thinking was if the Lord had
saddled her with this man, then

608
00:34:29,699 --> 00:34:31,900
it was Herbert.
Okay, but he God never say you

609
00:34:31,900 --> 00:34:35,100
can't fight back now.
Ah, that's the Bible I'll say so

610
00:34:35,100 --> 00:34:37,600
you couldn't take it like a
two-by-four guess his head, you

611
00:34:37,600 --> 00:34:42,699
know, at didn't really handle
his parents fighting like that

612
00:34:42,699 --> 00:34:46,400
and he became more reclusive and
more separate from his family.

613
00:34:46,400 --> 00:34:48,900
And I would feel like this, Is
kind of like one of the early

614
00:34:48,900 --> 00:34:52,199
places where there might have
been a separation of reality for

615
00:34:52,199 --> 00:34:57,400
him, which is, we know, now, in
hindsight, it's PTSD thing that

616
00:34:57,400 --> 00:34:59,800
sometimes people who are
struggling are suffering from

617
00:34:59,800 --> 00:35:06,000
PTSD, begin to lean into their
fantasy world as a means to

618
00:35:06,000 --> 00:35:09,300
cope.
Hmm, especially like children

619
00:35:09,300 --> 00:35:12,900
who are abused victims.
Like you find a happy place to

620
00:35:12,900 --> 00:35:15,600
go to when the bad thing is
happening.

621
00:35:17,300 --> 00:35:19,600
And for him, it was these books
that he was reading.

622
00:35:19,600 --> 00:35:24,500
And I unfortunately I remember
being a quiet smart kid who only

623
00:35:24,500 --> 00:35:30,000
read books all the time because
of trauma, interesting Sal

624
00:35:30,000 --> 00:35:37,800
hahaha But time passed, Adam
Henry, become young man, George

625
00:35:37,800 --> 00:35:39,500
sinks deeper into his
depression.

626
00:35:40,500 --> 00:35:45,100
Augusta takes to nagging the
boys about everything which is

627
00:35:45,100 --> 00:35:49,200
specially the evils of the
Modern Woman.

628
00:35:49,500 --> 00:35:54,100
Of course specifically that
Plainfield women were the worst

629
00:35:54,400 --> 00:35:59,300
and she knew based on magazines
and newspapers that these girls

630
00:35:59,300 --> 00:36:01,100
were horrible because they were
short skirts.

631
00:36:01,300 --> 00:36:04,000
And powdered their faces and
there's lipstick.

632
00:36:04,000 --> 00:36:07,600
And she told her son's that all
women were tainted.

633
00:36:07,600 --> 00:36:09,900
Always knew women were tainted
and Fallen.

634
00:36:10,800 --> 00:36:13,000
Let you know that this is like
the 1930s.

635
00:36:13,100 --> 00:36:17,400
So everything that any previous
generation says about the next

636
00:36:17,400 --> 00:36:20,300
generation is always the same
thing.

637
00:36:20,500 --> 00:36:23,600
It's never different.
Every previous generation is

638
00:36:23,600 --> 00:36:25,500
like, oh, these children,
they're gonna bring down the

639
00:36:25,500 --> 00:36:27,700
downfalls civilization.
Look at them in their

640
00:36:27,700 --> 00:36:30,100
inappropriate clothing.
And I'm like, that is what they

641
00:36:30,100 --> 00:36:33,900
say nowadays.
And All the time.

642
00:36:34,400 --> 00:36:36,500
Did you?
Interesting fact?

643
00:36:36,600 --> 00:36:37,600
Well, I'm pretty sure you're a
nudist.

644
00:36:37,700 --> 00:36:40,300
Did you know that?
The human brain has not evolved

645
00:36:40,300 --> 00:36:42,700
since like in thousands of years
make sense.

646
00:36:42,700 --> 00:36:45,800
So we still have the same brain
as our ancestors did like

647
00:36:45,800 --> 00:36:50,800
thousands of years ago, but like
Australopithecus or like human

648
00:36:50,900 --> 00:36:54,600
like you know Homo sapiens.
I think not the pre pre people

649
00:36:54,600 --> 00:36:57,200
but like the people like the
heel Homo sapiens Homo sapiens.

650
00:36:57,200 --> 00:36:58,800
Okay.
I mean so at least we've evolved

651
00:36:58,800 --> 00:37:04,900
from you know, Cro-Magnon.
Yeah, sort of, I'm just like,

652
00:37:04,900 --> 00:37:08,700
because I'm thinking like so how
people think they're smart?

653
00:37:08,700 --> 00:37:11,500
Now, people were, people were
saying like same not

654
00:37:11,500 --> 00:37:15,100
intelligence back then and then
people still do the same shit.

655
00:37:15,100 --> 00:37:17,400
They did back then today, of
course.

656
00:37:17,400 --> 00:37:20,400
Absolutely.
Well, that's like, okay, so I

657
00:37:20,400 --> 00:37:24,100
love this because I love the
older black folks, who are

658
00:37:24,100 --> 00:37:26,700
always talking about how young
but you know look at them being

659
00:37:26,700 --> 00:37:29,800
all sexy shaking their booties
and all that whatever.

660
00:37:30,400 --> 00:37:35,000
But But I remember, okay my this
is literally in my father's

661
00:37:35,000 --> 00:37:38,300
study right now and it's a very
famous painting.

662
00:37:38,600 --> 00:37:43,700
That's easily like 80 years old
and is a bunch of black folks in

663
00:37:43,700 --> 00:37:48,500
like a cage as type club and
they are all just swiveling and

664
00:37:48,500 --> 00:37:52,300
a-shakin and booties are popped
out and I was like, how dare you

665
00:37:52,300 --> 00:37:55,100
tell me that people worked
working eight years ago?

666
00:37:55,300 --> 00:37:57,600
But it's always been twerking
just had a different name.

667
00:37:57,600 --> 00:38:00,400
Then they, we really have been
twerking.

668
00:38:00,400 --> 00:38:02,100
Thanks.
Since we were in high school

669
00:38:02,100 --> 00:38:04,300
where it's working there, too.
That's what I'm saying about

670
00:38:04,300 --> 00:38:06,000
talking about.
How do you kids are up on new

671
00:38:06,000 --> 00:38:08,000
stuff?
Oh my God.

672
00:38:08,000 --> 00:38:10,100
Nothing new.
It's got different and it does.

673
00:38:10,600 --> 00:38:14,600
I know it's not like old people.
My God anyway though that is

674
00:38:14,600 --> 00:38:19,400
what Augusta really harped on.
And so what like this is

675
00:38:19,400 --> 00:38:21,700
actually another really awful
story from the schachter book

676
00:38:21,700 --> 00:38:24,900
but like so say like they were
working on the farm and like it

677
00:38:24,900 --> 00:38:28,300
rained and they couldn't keep
working, they would come inside.

678
00:38:28,300 --> 00:38:31,500
And a gust would be sitting in
the parlor on her favorite chair

679
00:38:31,900 --> 00:38:35,800
and she would make them sit with
her while she read revelation.

680
00:38:37,300 --> 00:38:44,100
The end of days and the loose
women in the Bible or not at

681
00:38:44,100 --> 00:38:48,300
fault.
I believe the, the exact quote

682
00:38:48,300 --> 00:38:57,300
is harlots and Abominations and
she would also just sit and read

683
00:38:57,300 --> 00:38:59,400
the Psalms to them.
The songs are at least a little

684
00:38:59,400 --> 00:39:02,300
nicer.
I guess Revelation is just pure,

685
00:39:02,300 --> 00:39:04,700
the world is ending and you all
suck and you're all going to

686
00:39:04,700 --> 00:39:06,700
die.
Well, you know.

687
00:39:06,700 --> 00:39:10,300
So what but we all know this, I
mean, but it's always

688
00:39:10,300 --> 00:39:13,800
interesting because this is kind
of a space where Henry and Ed

689
00:39:13,800 --> 00:39:18,900
begin to divide on the feelings
about their mother one day,

690
00:39:18,900 --> 00:39:22,800
they're, you know, I guess
they're just talking and Henry's

691
00:39:22,800 --> 00:39:30,500
just like Well, for this way.
Henry originally tries to kind

692
00:39:30,500 --> 00:39:32,400
of push back against his mother.
Mmm.

693
00:39:33,800 --> 00:39:36,100
He's a notice, of course, he's
trying to, you know, flirt with

694
00:39:36,100 --> 00:39:38,700
girls, he's trying to do
something but it's his mother is

695
00:39:38,700 --> 00:39:40,700
like, I'm trying to do my own
thing.

696
00:39:40,700 --> 00:39:44,000
Now, his mother's a force to be
reckoned with and Henry decides.

697
00:39:44,000 --> 00:39:46,800
He's just never gonna get
married, which was fine for

698
00:39:46,800 --> 00:39:49,400
Augusta because several of her,
brother's never got married

699
00:39:49,400 --> 00:39:52,100
either.
In fact, both Henry and add

700
00:39:52,200 --> 00:39:55,300
never had relationships with
women and their entire lives.

701
00:39:56,500 --> 00:40:01,200
Okay.
Now for Henry, the shorter life

702
00:40:01,200 --> 00:40:03,300
is relatively young.
Yeah.

703
00:40:03,400 --> 00:40:07,400
In fact, Ed's entire family dies
within like five year period.

704
00:40:07,500 --> 00:40:08,700
Oh damn.
Mmm.

705
00:40:09,000 --> 00:40:11,900
It starts with George.
After a lifetime of abusing his

706
00:40:11,900 --> 00:40:15,200
liver and marriage that had been
pretty terrible for his mental

707
00:40:15,200 --> 00:40:18,200
health.
He was pretty much like a shell

708
00:40:18,200 --> 00:40:22,000
of a person with little will to
live 1937.

709
00:40:22,000 --> 00:40:25,100
He gets really sick.
He's completely dependent on his

710
00:40:25,100 --> 00:40:29,000
family for Lutely, all care.
We didn't have a name for it.

711
00:40:29,000 --> 00:40:31,700
Then from what it sounded like
though is that he was probably

712
00:40:32,000 --> 00:40:35,300
suffering from liver failure and
and liver failure is a pretty

713
00:40:35,300 --> 00:40:41,000
awful and he died. 66 years old
April 1st 1948 and for his

714
00:40:41,000 --> 00:40:45,000
family his death wasn't a major
loss Ed and Henry were like whoo

715
00:40:45,000 --> 00:40:47,700
thank goodness.
We don't have to take care of

716
00:40:47,700 --> 00:40:49,800
them all the time.
It was just more chores on top

717
00:40:49,800 --> 00:40:52,800
of their other chores, they had
to do to keep that farm running,

718
00:40:52,800 --> 00:40:53,500
right?
Yeah.

719
00:40:54,700 --> 00:40:57,100
Feel the farm, it's still not
succeeding.

720
00:40:58,200 --> 00:41:01,500
And in fact, in the entire time,
mind you, the family started,

721
00:41:02,600 --> 00:41:06,600
they moved there in 1914, it's
not a 1940, it still has no

722
00:41:06,600 --> 00:41:10,500
electricity, no indoor plumbing.
So while it might have been like

723
00:41:10,500 --> 00:41:14,100
a hot commodity in 1914.
Augusta hadn't been able to keep

724
00:41:14,100 --> 00:41:15,200
it up.
They had been able to save any

725
00:41:15,200 --> 00:41:18,100
money to improve the house.
What were they doing?

726
00:41:18,100 --> 00:41:21,000
What were they doing?
Just barely surviving.

727
00:41:22,500 --> 00:41:24,700
Wow.
And the outside had fallen

728
00:41:24,700 --> 00:41:28,000
apart, too.
So it was not the the house that

729
00:41:28,000 --> 00:41:31,500
it was when she started.
What year was this 1940?

730
00:41:31,700 --> 00:41:33,800
Thank you for tea.
Was it around like the Great

731
00:41:33,800 --> 00:41:36,700
Depression type of?
Well, oh, a lots about to

732
00:41:36,700 --> 00:41:40,100
happen.
One of the worst wars in the

733
00:41:40,100 --> 00:41:44,600
world is happening.
Simultaneously Henry's too old

734
00:41:44,600 --> 00:41:49,700
for military service but Ed is
not and so he goes to Milwaukee

735
00:41:50,100 --> 00:41:55,400
to You're looking confused.
No, no, I'm scratching my beard

736
00:41:55,400 --> 00:41:56,200
so.
Okay.

737
00:41:56,200 --> 00:41:59,600
I was like, you know, that world
the world war is happiness,

738
00:41:59,600 --> 00:42:02,400
okay?
As with this a I'm just drunk.

739
00:42:02,400 --> 00:42:06,100
I'm not drunk, my beard and I'm
not confused.

740
00:42:06,100 --> 00:42:10,000
Look, is my look okay that
everybody knows this.

741
00:42:10,000 --> 00:42:14,200
I was looking for used but yeah
he goes to Milwaukee to get a

742
00:42:14,200 --> 00:42:17,300
health assessment to see if he
can be drafted.

743
00:42:17,300 --> 00:42:24,300
And they determined that that
like I growth that had never

744
00:42:24,300 --> 00:42:27,200
been removed, had caused one of
his eyes to sagging, it like

745
00:42:27,200 --> 00:42:30,800
partially impaired his vision.
So they determined that he is

746
00:42:30,800 --> 00:42:35,200
not able to join the war in
1942.

747
00:42:35,700 --> 00:42:39,300
He's 36 years old at that point
and that trip to Milwaukee is

748
00:42:39,300 --> 00:42:41,500
the farthest.
He would ever travel from his

749
00:42:41,500 --> 00:42:44,800
home and his entire life really.
Yeah, wow.

750
00:42:44,800 --> 00:42:46,700
Oh, you know what?
I was confused for a second

751
00:42:47,400 --> 00:42:51,800
because of the ages, I didn't I
forgot that the years had jumped

752
00:42:51,900 --> 00:42:54,800
Don't anybody was still like
ATL's?

753
00:42:54,800 --> 00:42:55,800
Like what it?
What are you talking about?

754
00:42:55,800 --> 00:42:58,200
He's not older.
He's old too old to be a listed.

755
00:43:00,000 --> 00:43:04,900
Well, yeah, that would have made
in 1942 that would have made his

756
00:43:04,900 --> 00:43:07,800
brother 38.
Yeah, that reminds.

757
00:43:07,800 --> 00:43:10,500
That was the cutoff is 30.
Finally I thought that I mean

758
00:43:10,500 --> 00:43:14,500
but I was 36 and they still were
like come on down.

759
00:43:14,600 --> 00:43:16,000
Maybe it's not the cutoff
anymore.

760
00:43:16,000 --> 00:43:17,300
Well it may be the cutoff.
Damn.

761
00:43:17,300 --> 00:43:19,200
Yeah, I think it's 35 now, but
okay.

762
00:43:19,300 --> 00:43:21,700
Anyway.
But either way, after his dad

763
00:43:21,700 --> 00:43:23,700
died, they both of them.
Took odd jobs.

764
00:43:23,700 --> 00:43:26,200
Honestly, it was a handyman for
a while.

765
00:43:26,500 --> 00:43:28,800
He was also a very
well-respected babysitter in the

766
00:43:28,800 --> 00:43:31,500
town.
Kids loved him.

767
00:43:31,500 --> 00:43:34,600
He'd roughhouse with the Boise
drechsel, he do magic tricks or

768
00:43:34,600 --> 00:43:37,400
tell scary stories.
The little girls in the winter,

769
00:43:37,400 --> 00:43:39,700
he joined the kids, in the
snowball fights.

770
00:43:40,000 --> 00:43:42,600
He was still very self-conscious
around adults, but with kids, he

771
00:43:42,600 --> 00:43:45,900
feel like they didn't touch him
and funny enough like in town,

772
00:43:46,300 --> 00:43:48,300
the parents didn't judge him
either.

773
00:43:48,300 --> 00:43:50,600
No adults.
Did they saw him as a good

774
00:43:50,600 --> 00:43:53,700
neighbor?
Who was way better than his mom?

775
00:43:53,900 --> 00:43:56,300
Who is the epitome of
holier-than-thou?

776
00:43:56,500 --> 00:43:59,400
And they were like, well, it's
not like that stuck-up bitch.

777
00:44:00,000 --> 00:44:05,000
So you can talk to you and say
something mom for us please.

778
00:44:05,100 --> 00:44:07,300
I'm Henry was working this like
really good job as a

779
00:44:07,308 --> 00:44:11,100
construction foreman and the two
shared chores.

780
00:44:11,100 --> 00:44:13,900
They hunted on the family
property together and really

781
00:44:13,900 --> 00:44:19,600
admired his brother but it came
up again that Henry thought that

782
00:44:19,600 --> 00:44:23,700
Ed was too close to Augusta.
He was like I think it's a

783
00:44:23,707 --> 00:44:26,600
little weird that she's like
lashed on you like this.

784
00:44:27,700 --> 00:44:30,300
Ed thought Augusta was in.
Fallible.

785
00:44:31,800 --> 00:44:35,700
Of course, that's your mama and
then May 16th 1944.

786
00:44:36,300 --> 00:44:40,400
There's a fire on some Marshland
near their home and Henry dies

787
00:44:40,400 --> 00:44:42,200
under some suspicious
circumstances.

788
00:44:42,300 --> 00:44:46,400
No, he's only 43 years old.
There are reports that own

789
00:44:46,400 --> 00:44:49,600
newspapers about how the fire
started and there's multiple

790
00:44:49,600 --> 00:44:51,400
ideas.
There's reports that it was just

791
00:44:51,400 --> 00:44:54,600
an accident that it was a fire.
That was like to burn off, like

792
00:44:54,600 --> 00:44:58,900
the grass and the Marshland.
But regardless and reported to

793
00:44:58,900 --> 00:45:01,000
everybody that like while they
were out there, there was a

794
00:45:01,008 --> 00:45:03,700
really strong wrong win and it
blew and the fire got out of

795
00:45:03,700 --> 00:45:06,600
control.
They decided they were going to

796
00:45:06,600 --> 00:45:12,900
try and like stop it from two
sides and then Ed loses track of

797
00:45:12,900 --> 00:45:16,600
Henry.
As he you know it's taking the

798
00:45:16,600 --> 00:45:18,800
fire out when he can't find his
brother.

799
00:45:18,800 --> 00:45:21,700
He goes to town gathers, a
search party, they all go back

800
00:45:21,700 --> 00:45:25,000
into the woods and look for him
and there, they find Henry face

801
00:45:25,000 --> 00:45:28,400
down in the dirt.
Very, very, very dead.

802
00:45:29,100 --> 00:45:31,800
The Searchers are confused
though, because even though the

803
00:45:31,800 --> 00:45:35,400
ground around him is scorched,
Henry's body is not.

804
00:45:35,900 --> 00:45:40,400
He's covered in soot but no part
of him is burned.

805
00:45:40,600 --> 00:45:42,700
None of his clothes are burned
off nothing.

806
00:45:43,300 --> 00:45:49,000
They also found bruising on his
head also and had led the search

807
00:45:49,000 --> 00:45:53,300
party almost directly to the
spot where Henry's body was even

808
00:45:53,300 --> 00:45:55,700
though he had said, he had been
able to find him.

809
00:45:56,000 --> 00:45:59,500
See, look, I was thinking of
ways to give him the benefit of

810
00:45:59,508 --> 00:46:01,600
the doubt.
Maybe he died from like smoke

811
00:46:01,700 --> 00:46:04,000
in, that's why he didn't have
any Burns.

812
00:46:04,000 --> 00:46:05,500
No nevermind.
Okay yeah.

813
00:46:05,600 --> 00:46:12,200
Yep, you're absolutely correct.
But it looks like his brother

814
00:46:12,200 --> 00:46:17,100
kind of murdered him.
He marked him well so they

815
00:46:17,100 --> 00:46:20,600
immediately call the district
attorney Earl Killeen and the

816
00:46:20,600 --> 00:46:24,100
County coroner George blader and
a doctor from town named dr.

817
00:46:24,100 --> 00:46:26,200
Ingersoll.
They're all called to the scene

818
00:46:26,500 --> 00:46:28,800
on the Medical District staff.
Determine he died from

819
00:46:28,800 --> 00:46:30,800
asphyxiation and there's no foul
play.

820
00:46:30,900 --> 00:46:33,100
Hmm.
At the time.

821
00:46:33,100 --> 00:46:36,000
No one would have even suspected
that Ed was the kind of Sin to

822
00:46:36,000 --> 00:46:39,700
kill anybody and though the case
was closed and they let it go,

823
00:46:39,900 --> 00:46:42,600
okay?
I mean but you did it but it's

824
00:46:42,600 --> 00:46:45,100
okay.
Shortly after Henry's death,

825
00:46:45,200 --> 00:46:47,500
Augusta reports that she doesn't
feel good.

826
00:46:47,800 --> 00:46:50,100
He puts her in the truck and
drive to to the wall, Rose

827
00:46:50,100 --> 00:46:52,200
Hospital.
By the time they get there.

828
00:46:52,200 --> 00:46:54,900
She's so weak that she needs a
wheelchair to even get in the

829
00:46:54,900 --> 00:46:58,200
building.
Augusta had a stroke as you need

830
00:46:58,200 --> 00:47:01,700
to be hospitalized and then when
he brought her home ed was like,

831
00:47:01,700 --> 00:47:05,300
her primary care person like he
stayed with her.

832
00:47:05,600 --> 00:47:08,400
Every day when she was at the
hospital visiting hours went

833
00:47:08,400 --> 00:47:10,100
home.
He waited on her every need

834
00:47:10,100 --> 00:47:11,900
reading her from the Bible, to
make her happy.

835
00:47:12,100 --> 00:47:15,300
They actually got really close
and it was almost like he was

836
00:47:15,300 --> 00:47:18,600
like getting the attention from
her that he always wanted.

837
00:47:18,800 --> 00:47:20,400
Then you are getting attention
from her though.

838
00:47:20,400 --> 00:47:22,200
No.
Because the attention got from

839
00:47:22,200 --> 00:47:25,400
before was you're going to hell
and you're stupid.

840
00:47:25,400 --> 00:47:27,900
How could I raise such a stupid
child, really?

841
00:47:28,000 --> 00:47:33,100
Yeah, like she really loved him
but like it was a I'm gonna I'm

842
00:47:33,100 --> 00:47:36,500
gonna love.
I'm gonna be You into submission

843
00:47:36,500 --> 00:47:39,300
kind of love.
And like I'm going to make you a

844
00:47:39,300 --> 00:47:43,400
good man through aggressive.
Okay, that's not good.

845
00:47:43,400 --> 00:47:46,400
So here she's being like soft
because she's weak and she needs

846
00:47:46,400 --> 00:47:49,100
help doing things.
This is so great that it takes

847
00:47:49,100 --> 00:47:52,000
until about night midd like
middle of 1945, almost like a

848
00:47:52,008 --> 00:47:55,400
year later for his mother to get
enough strength to try and walk.

849
00:47:55,400 --> 00:47:59,600
And like as soon as she could
like move around on her own she

850
00:47:59,600 --> 00:48:02,400
like foot back to being normal
like when she first tried to get

851
00:48:02,400 --> 00:48:06,700
out of like the bed like he Like
here, let me help you and she's

852
00:48:06,700 --> 00:48:09,500
like, I know how to walk like
that kind of response and he was

853
00:48:09,500 --> 00:48:13,500
like damn it back to business.
Yep.

854
00:48:14,100 --> 00:48:16,700
And then the winter of 1945
something.

855
00:48:16,700 --> 00:48:21,100
Pretty awful happens, they still
had animals on their farms and

856
00:48:21,100 --> 00:48:24,500
uh draw to feed them.
So they drive to a neighbor to

857
00:48:24,500 --> 00:48:27,600
make the purchase and as they're
driving down the road, they come

858
00:48:27,600 --> 00:48:32,600
across their neighbors who are a
couple Trigger warning, animal

859
00:48:32,600 --> 00:48:37,300
abuse.
Just saying the man whose their

860
00:48:37,300 --> 00:48:42,100
neighbor is like, beating their
dog in the middle of the street

861
00:48:42,500 --> 00:48:45,300
and the woman's, they're
screaming at him to stop.

862
00:48:45,300 --> 00:48:48,000
And the man literally kills.
Oh my God.

863
00:48:48,000 --> 00:48:50,700
The the puppy in the Middle of
the Road.

864
00:48:50,700 --> 00:48:54,200
God, and here's the worst.
The weirdest part of this story

865
00:48:55,000 --> 00:48:58,500
Augusta gets like super upset
like super worked up about it

866
00:48:58,700 --> 00:49:03,400
but not about the Abuse.
Why she's upset about the woman

867
00:49:03,400 --> 00:49:09,200
who's in the street?
Sobbing Because the two of them

868
00:49:09,200 --> 00:49:13,200
are living in sin.
Brittany, I kid you not.

869
00:49:13,600 --> 00:49:18,600
She works herself up into a fit
and has a second stroke a week

870
00:49:18,600 --> 00:49:20,300
later.
Oh, my fucking god.

871
00:49:20,800 --> 00:49:22,600
This time, he rushed her to the
hospital.

872
00:49:22,600 --> 00:49:24,800
She dies.
December 29th, 1945.

873
00:49:25,200 --> 00:49:28,800
Like she literally like Works
herself into another brain

874
00:49:28,900 --> 00:49:31,300
because you got mad.
She's mad.

875
00:49:31,300 --> 00:49:37,300
Because what down the road?
Come on, I know.

876
00:49:40,000 --> 00:49:44,200
Some of her siblings attend this
funeral and my favorite part

877
00:49:44,200 --> 00:49:47,100
about this is that her obituary
was three, sentences long.

878
00:49:48,500 --> 00:49:51,900
George got at least, like, a
couple of paragraphs, like, I

879
00:49:51,900 --> 00:49:54,000
could find it for you.
If I pulled up the book out with

880
00:49:54,000 --> 00:49:57,000
archive.org, but like there was
one part of like George Gibbs,

881
00:49:57,000 --> 00:50:00,900
where was like, George suffered
incredibly long for the three

882
00:50:00,900 --> 00:50:04,500
years before his death.
Here's what her says, mrs.

883
00:50:04,500 --> 00:50:07,800
Augusta Gein Drew died.
At the Wild, Rose Hospital on

884
00:50:07,800 --> 00:50:10,300
December 29th of Cerebro brain
hemorrhage.

885
00:50:10,800 --> 00:50:13,400
The body was brought to the gulf
funeral home where Services were

886
00:50:13,400 --> 00:50:17,100
held December 30th.
Reverend CH Weiss officiating.

887
00:50:17,300 --> 00:50:20,500
She is survived by one son.
Edward who lives on the home

888
00:50:20,500 --> 00:50:27,700
Farm Southwest to here is like
they got back at her.

889
00:50:27,800 --> 00:50:30,800
They were like listen, we not
giving you any more lines than

890
00:50:30,800 --> 00:50:33,300
necessary.
Sorry, where's your funeral?

891
00:50:33,400 --> 00:50:36,900
You died and you got one kid,
who lives around here somewhere?

892
00:50:37,200 --> 00:50:39,400
That's all you need to know.
Bye.

893
00:50:41,600 --> 00:50:46,600
Oh, Ed was inconsolable, of
course, and this was definitely

894
00:50:46,600 --> 00:50:49,200
kind of the beginning beginning
of his spiral, but no one could

895
00:50:49,200 --> 00:50:51,900
really tell it first.
He was still a very much

896
00:50:51,900 --> 00:50:55,800
soft-spoken kind awkward, not
very social, but always polite.

897
00:50:56,100 --> 00:50:59,600
If anybody need help, he would
lend a hand but some things were

898
00:50:59,600 --> 00:51:02,700
starting to break for him.
He stopped shaving.

899
00:51:03,600 --> 00:51:08,500
He also stopped bathing what
little that was being done to

900
00:51:08,500 --> 00:51:12,200
the farm.
Augusta was alive, stopped front

901
00:51:12,200 --> 00:51:16,100
yard stayed overgrown with weeds
for years and sold off all the

902
00:51:16,100 --> 00:51:18,100
livestock to pay for his
mother's funeral.

903
00:51:18,500 --> 00:51:21,000
And all of the Old Farm
Equipment was just left to rust

904
00:51:21,000 --> 00:51:23,200
in the bar and I'm like, you
couldn't have sold that to Pam,

905
00:51:23,200 --> 00:51:27,100
like, goodness wasteful.
Yeah, he to make money.

906
00:51:27,100 --> 00:51:30,800
He least a couple of Acres on
the property to neighbors

907
00:51:31,100 --> 00:51:33,700
adjacent Farms, who wanted more
farmland.

908
00:51:34,400 --> 00:51:37,000
And he'd work around like town
as a handyman.

909
00:51:37,500 --> 00:51:39,700
He didn't have a whole lot of
like, Fences.

910
00:51:39,700 --> 00:51:41,400
So he didn't you a whole lot of
money, right?

911
00:51:41,400 --> 00:51:45,000
Yeah he was also getting a state
subsidy for his lamb through

912
00:51:45,000 --> 00:51:49,000
this like Stateville, come
conservation, program almost

913
00:51:49,100 --> 00:51:51,500
almost that conversation and I
spelled it right my notes but

914
00:51:51,500 --> 00:51:56,100
almost that conversation his
neighbors were pretty

915
00:51:56,100 --> 00:51:58,600
understanding that he was
grieving a lot of things fall to

916
00:51:58,600 --> 00:52:01,600
the Wayside when you're grieving
but some people definitely

917
00:52:01,600 --> 00:52:03,800
thought he was kind of gross.
Because, you know, here's this.

918
00:52:05,400 --> 00:52:09,900
Portland shaving as well.
Say, stinky man, Greg Lee yakin

919
00:52:09,900 --> 00:52:12,100
smelly dude walking down the
street.

920
00:52:12,500 --> 00:52:14,000
Most people weren't too bothered
by it.

921
00:52:14,000 --> 00:52:16,800
The women around town, I went
to, they found him Charming.

922
00:52:17,200 --> 00:52:20,300
But disarming, I would say
disarming, like she wasn't

923
00:52:20,300 --> 00:52:22,300
really bothered.
Like they, they were late there,

924
00:52:22,300 --> 00:52:23,900
maybe they took pity on him,
okay?

925
00:52:24,500 --> 00:52:27,500
He ain't cursed at all, he never
behaved violently.

926
00:52:28,500 --> 00:52:33,700
The the men, their husbands were
kind of like, what kind of guy

927
00:52:33,700 --> 00:52:37,400
is this?
Because apparently, they people

928
00:52:37,400 --> 00:52:39,200
found out that he was afraid of
blood.

929
00:52:40,500 --> 00:52:44,100
So which they found odd because
his father had been a butcher in

930
00:52:44,100 --> 00:52:47,200
the grocery store and he grew up
on a farm and he'd been hunting

931
00:52:47,200 --> 00:52:50,300
with his brother, but apparently
Henry must have done all of the

932
00:52:50,300 --> 00:52:52,500
skinning of the LIE of the
animal part.

933
00:52:52,500 --> 00:52:53,600
Okay?
There's nothing, there's nothing

934
00:52:53,600 --> 00:52:54,600
wrong with being afraid of
blood.

935
00:52:54,600 --> 00:52:56,600
Okay.
You just did, that's his only

936
00:52:56,600 --> 00:52:58,300
looking at it.
Are you afraid of blood sir?

937
00:52:58,300 --> 00:53:00,400
I don't like looking at, who is
terrible.

938
00:53:00,700 --> 00:53:03,700
It makes you really hate it when
he looked a lot of things.

939
00:53:03,800 --> 00:53:05,800
Okay, that's fake blood.
Oh, okay.

940
00:53:05,800 --> 00:53:07,400
So just real blood.
Yeah.

941
00:53:07,800 --> 00:53:10,600
Only had one experience like
that when I worked in a Hospital

942
00:53:10,600 --> 00:53:13,200
taking pictures of babies during
college.

943
00:53:13,300 --> 00:53:18,800
I, you know, sometimes bad
things happen during pregnancy

944
00:53:18,800 --> 00:53:22,500
or after pregnancy and says, in
one room, like, hitting out,

945
00:53:22,500 --> 00:53:24,700
like flyers to people a little
booklets and stuff.

946
00:53:24,900 --> 00:53:29,200
And then in that moment, as I
was pushing the cart out of the

947
00:53:29,200 --> 00:53:33,500
room, a hemorrhage happened.
And I didn't know what that was,

948
00:53:34,100 --> 00:53:38,800
but I sure remember the sheer
volume of blood and the like

949
00:53:39,200 --> 00:53:45,400
team of two. 1T people who came
tearing down the hall to help

950
00:53:45,400 --> 00:53:47,800
her.
She survived bus goes, good, but

951
00:53:47,800 --> 00:53:50,300
it was scary but that's the
first time I've had ever seen

952
00:53:50,300 --> 00:53:53,400
blood and it like made me
nauseous.

953
00:53:53,700 --> 00:53:56,200
It was so much.
Yeah, scary.

954
00:53:57,000 --> 00:54:01,900
I want a my favorite content
creators his, that happened to

955
00:54:01,900 --> 00:54:06,800
his wife after their first time.
And like he said, he knew that

956
00:54:06,800 --> 00:54:11,200
something serious had happened
because the doctor sent all of

957
00:54:11,207 --> 00:54:13,900
the interns away.
Oh, she was like, I need you to

958
00:54:13,900 --> 00:54:15,100
leave.
Yeah.

959
00:54:15,100 --> 00:54:18,300
And like, he was just like, she
was just, that's a bad sign.

960
00:54:18,300 --> 00:54:21,900
Yep.
And like, and her face changed,

961
00:54:21,900 --> 00:54:25,600
and he was just like, oh, no.
And he has to be in the room and

962
00:54:25,600 --> 00:54:27,700
still like pretend that she's
okay.

963
00:54:28,000 --> 00:54:29,900
Her mom's the, what the moms on
the baby.

964
00:54:29,900 --> 00:54:31,300
Like, what's up?
We good, we're having a good

965
00:54:31,300 --> 00:54:34,700
time and the pathway down the
doctors at a whole different

966
00:54:34,700 --> 00:54:36,300
Mission.
Like that's like one of the

967
00:54:36,300 --> 00:54:39,500
scary things that can happen,
but yeah, as I didn't know, you

968
00:54:39,500 --> 00:54:41,900
had that issue.
You see, yeah, that's known each

969
00:54:41,900 --> 00:54:45,100
other for so long and I don't
know, you weirded out by your a

970
00:54:45,100 --> 00:54:48,800
blood person though.
It's your job.

971
00:54:48,800 --> 00:54:50,400
Is it okay with its in a little
bag?

972
00:54:50,400 --> 00:54:52,900
It's okay, when is in the bags.
So what is this?

973
00:54:52,900 --> 00:54:55,500
Is it like a wound situation?
Um, that?

974
00:54:55,500 --> 00:54:57,300
Yeah, like, owe me.
I'm fine.

975
00:54:57,300 --> 00:54:59,200
Was it?
Like, I got my, like, my tip of

976
00:54:59,200 --> 00:55:02,000
my finger got cut off.
Well, the oh, wow.

977
00:55:02,000 --> 00:55:03,500
Go that's gross.
And like it.

978
00:55:03,500 --> 00:55:05,900
Grew back wrong but I want to
see when we're done.

979
00:55:06,000 --> 00:55:06,700
Yeah.
Okay.

980
00:55:06,700 --> 00:55:10,700
It grew back wrong.
Um, I never noticed and Like,

981
00:55:10,700 --> 00:55:15,000
when I cut myself, I cut myself
and when his blink is fucking

982
00:55:15,000 --> 00:55:17,800
lot of blood, I'm just looking
at like, oh, okay.

983
00:55:20,000 --> 00:55:22,100
What is this specific way that
you don't like blood.

984
00:55:22,100 --> 00:55:25,100
So it's anybody else's blood.
Okay?

985
00:55:25,400 --> 00:55:28,500
Like my kids, I'm fine with
anybody else, like adult and I

986
00:55:28,508 --> 00:55:31,700
can see they're like just their
blood coming out is like and

987
00:55:31,700 --> 00:55:35,400
then what the with my job there
are.

988
00:55:35,700 --> 00:55:39,600
Sometimes if you are accidents
with blood, you know, with a

989
00:55:40,400 --> 00:55:45,500
blood bag, breaks a bag breaks
or you know, and then you just

990
00:55:45,700 --> 00:55:47,500
just see all the blood
everywhere he's like.

991
00:55:49,000 --> 00:55:52,000
I need to go.
I need to go right now.

992
00:55:52,000 --> 00:55:55,100
I'm gonna throw up.
Well, you sympathize with Ed

993
00:55:56,300 --> 00:55:57,700
being afraid of blood then.
Yeah.

994
00:55:57,700 --> 00:56:01,000
Absolutely.
Because that's just how I feel

995
00:56:01,000 --> 00:56:04,200
an equi Kinder.
You we get from that.

996
00:56:04,200 --> 00:56:05,400
Well, you're flying.
Keep going.

997
00:56:06,700 --> 00:56:09,400
Don't.
Nobody could tell by the 1950s

998
00:56:09,400 --> 00:56:15,000
and had retreated from society
and he was living in his head in

999
00:56:15,000 --> 00:56:18,400
a really dark way.
He spent our a spent all of the

1000
00:56:18,400 --> 00:56:22,800
ow, As in his Farmhouse that
like when he wasn't going to

1001
00:56:22,800 --> 00:56:28,500
work just reading weird books,
his house was covered in just

1002
00:56:28,800 --> 00:56:32,800
filth and he would spend like
hours studying like Nazi

1003
00:56:32,800 --> 00:56:37,300
Germany, atrocities, he read
stories of exclamations.

1004
00:56:37,300 --> 00:56:41,100
Resurrection men Body.
Snatchers stories of 19th

1005
00:56:41,100 --> 00:56:42,200
century.
English grave.

1006
00:56:42,200 --> 00:56:44,800
Robbers selling corpses did
medical schools.

1007
00:56:44,900 --> 00:56:47,500
I'm sure he probably read about
HH Holmes, that was happening.

1008
00:56:47,600 --> 00:56:50,200
Oh yeah.
Another story of like this Rich,

1009
00:56:50,200 --> 00:56:52,500
these rich, young British
Aristocrats digging up,

1010
00:56:52,500 --> 00:56:54,700
beautiful women doing horrible
things to them.

1011
00:56:55,100 --> 00:56:59,300
He read about cannibalism,
sexual mutilation, he's huge

1012
00:56:59,500 --> 00:57:02,600
when we couldn't find those
things to read, he would read

1013
00:57:02,600 --> 00:57:05,600
the local paper, but not like to
know what was going on to read

1014
00:57:05,600 --> 00:57:08,200
about people getting killed car.
Crashes, suicides.

1015
00:57:08,200 --> 00:57:12,800
It's appearances.
No, boy, he like I told you

1016
00:57:12,800 --> 00:57:14,300
retreating into that fantasy
space.

1017
00:57:14,300 --> 00:57:20,400
He's entirely in it now, hmm.
And he always always tore out

1018
00:57:20,400 --> 00:57:23,700
and saved the obituaries of
course.

1019
00:57:24,000 --> 00:57:27,900
So now we're going to get into
kind of like What I would say.

1020
00:57:27,900 --> 00:57:29,900
The stuff, this is the general
information that most people

1021
00:57:29,900 --> 00:57:33,800
know about a game, which is that
between 1947 and 1950 to, he

1022
00:57:33,800 --> 00:57:37,000
began visiting graveyard at
night, just first, just to look,

1023
00:57:37,700 --> 00:57:40,100
he would tell the police later
on and he visited three local

1024
00:57:40,100 --> 00:57:44,200
cemeteries over 40 times on 10
of those time times.

1025
00:57:44,200 --> 00:57:48,700
He dug up women who had recently
been buried, who he thought

1026
00:57:48,700 --> 00:57:52,000
looked like his dead mother,
taking them home.

1027
00:57:52,300 --> 00:57:54,700
Me laying there remains turning
them into trophies that he likes

1028
00:57:54,700 --> 00:57:59,200
to display around his house.
This was how Ed dealt with his

1029
00:57:59,200 --> 00:58:03,100
feelings of lust for women.
He swore the police that he

1030
00:58:03,100 --> 00:58:06,400
never had sex with any of them
because they smell bad.

1031
00:58:07,400 --> 00:58:11,600
You don't say but he did get a
sexual satisfaction from

1032
00:58:11,600 --> 00:58:15,900
peeling, the skin from their
bodies and wearing it, that's

1033
00:58:16,200 --> 00:58:19,200
not okay.
During this time, he also became

1034
00:58:19,200 --> 00:58:22,600
obsessed with a story.
He read about a trans woman from

1035
00:58:22,600 --> 00:58:26,700
Europe and so he like created a
skin suit.

1036
00:58:26,900 --> 00:58:31,200
To see what it was like to.
Like feel like to have breasts

1037
00:58:31,500 --> 00:58:35,800
and he also cut off the genitals
of several of the bodies that he

1038
00:58:35,800 --> 00:58:42,000
pulled to see what a vagina
looks like, sir, like some of

1039
00:58:42,008 --> 00:58:44,800
this stuff could be solved by
getting a girlfriend.

1040
00:58:48,500 --> 00:58:50,500
He was too weird.
A point.

1041
00:58:50,500 --> 00:58:52,700
I have a girlfriend.
Yeah, I know he's too far gone.

1042
00:58:52,700 --> 00:58:54,900
We have a girl.
I mean, you can find another get

1043
00:58:54,900 --> 00:59:03,000
a mortician girlfriend.
What I do know, somebody get a

1044
00:59:03,000 --> 00:59:04,900
grave a grave digger.
Girlfriend.

1045
00:59:04,900 --> 00:59:07,400
Okay.
So the making both rubs bodies

1046
00:59:07,400 --> 00:59:09,800
together.
She look you can get the hook up

1047
00:59:09,800 --> 00:59:14,200
their shit, it's still illegal
and defiling corpses.

1048
00:59:14,200 --> 00:59:16,000
Oh my God I'm trying to help him
out.

1049
00:59:17,200 --> 00:59:20,400
Sir.
So during that time that like

1050
00:59:20,400 --> 00:59:25,000
1947 to like 1952 time period,
there was an uptick in missing

1051
00:59:25,000 --> 00:59:28,900
persons in Wisconsin for like a
couple of them are about five,

1052
00:59:28,900 --> 00:59:31,700
the police just couldn't figure
out for different situations.

1053
00:59:31,900 --> 00:59:34,600
The first was an eight-year-old
girl named Georgia, Wexler, who

1054
00:59:34,600 --> 00:59:38,300
disappeared on her way home from
school, May first 1947 hundreds

1055
00:59:38,300 --> 00:59:41,900
of people, search for her.
They searched the entirety of

1056
00:59:41,900 --> 00:59:45,300
Jefferson Wisconsin but she was
never seen or heard from again.

1057
00:59:45,600 --> 00:59:48,500
There were no Suspects.
The tire marks found where she

1058
00:59:48,500 --> 00:59:51,400
was last seen.
They were the tire tread of a

1059
00:59:51,400 --> 00:59:54,600
Ford.
Hmm, six years later and La

1060
00:59:54,607 --> 00:59:56,700
Crosse.
Wisconsin, 15 year old Evelyn.

1061
00:59:56,700 --> 01:00:00,200
Hartley is babysitting when she
disappears her father, tried to

1062
01:00:00,200 --> 01:00:03,100
call her at the house that she
was working at and she and pick

1063
01:00:03,100 --> 01:00:05,200
up the phone.
So he showed up and when he

1064
01:00:05,200 --> 01:00:07,500
looked through the window, he
saw one of his daughters shoes

1065
01:00:07,500 --> 01:00:11,100
and her glasses on the floor.
So he checked around the house

1066
01:00:11,100 --> 01:00:14,300
and he found that they back
basement window was open and

1067
01:00:14,300 --> 01:00:16,900
there was blood, he entered the
house.

1068
01:00:17,100 --> 01:00:19,800
Signs of a struggle and called
the police from the property.

1069
01:00:20,200 --> 01:00:23,000
Police found blood in the grass,
leading away from the house and

1070
01:00:23,000 --> 01:00:25,200
there was a bloody handprint on
a neighbor's house.

1071
01:00:25,900 --> 01:00:28,500
They did a regional search and
they couldn't find anything

1072
01:00:28,500 --> 01:00:31,300
other than her, bloody clothes
near a highway that was leaving

1073
01:00:31,300 --> 01:00:34,200
La Crosse.
They assumed that she was

1074
01:00:34,200 --> 01:00:39,300
murdered November of 1952, two
men stopped for drinks at a bar

1075
01:00:39,300 --> 01:00:42,400
in Plainfield Wisconsin.
Before going deer hunting, they

1076
01:00:42,400 --> 01:00:45,100
were Victor Travis and raber
guests and they were never seen

1077
01:00:45,100 --> 01:00:49,700
again and then in the Tour of
1954, a Plainfield bar owner

1078
01:00:49,700 --> 01:00:53,400
named Mary Hogan went missing,
police found Blood on the tavern

1079
01:00:53,400 --> 01:00:56,400
floor that led to the parking
lot and an empty bullet

1080
01:00:56,400 --> 01:00:59,700
cartridge.
The only common ties between all

1081
01:00:59,700 --> 01:01:03,300
these cases that they all
happened in or around Plainfield

1082
01:01:03,300 --> 01:01:07,400
Wisconsin.
And I got to tell ya.

1083
01:01:08,000 --> 01:01:13,800
Mary was German and tall and
stocky and Buxom.

1084
01:01:13,800 --> 01:01:16,400
The she have like the boss.
Yep.

1085
01:01:17,000 --> 01:01:19,000
She was a Tavern owner.
So she was of course, she had

1086
01:01:19,000 --> 01:01:22,700
the balls, the balls used to be
like, I mean, but she's very

1087
01:01:22,700 --> 01:01:25,300
different from his mother in a
sense that like, she was like a

1088
01:01:25,300 --> 01:01:28,600
swearing, you know, she's our
owner lady.

1089
01:01:28,600 --> 01:01:33,000
Yeah.
So this one is the direct.

1090
01:01:33,000 --> 01:01:35,600
Looks like his mom acts like his
mom.

1091
01:01:37,700 --> 01:01:39,300
When you got two guys, you said
right?

1092
01:01:39,500 --> 01:01:40,900
There were two guys at a
different bar.

1093
01:01:41,000 --> 01:01:43,100
Okay?
And what we'll see about, this

1094
01:01:43,100 --> 01:01:45,400
Ester is changing his ho.
We'll see.

1095
01:01:45,900 --> 01:01:49,500
Okay, okay.
Okay, hey, so shortly after the

1096
01:01:49,500 --> 01:01:53,000
police kind of gave up on the
Mary Hogan case, a rumor pops up

1097
01:01:53,000 --> 01:01:57,200
in Planes Field, playing field a
couple of teenage boys are like

1098
01:01:58,300 --> 01:02:04,400
Ed has shrunken heads in his
house and like The thing is,

1099
01:02:04,400 --> 01:02:06,600
like, some of those teenagers,
he had helped write, you know,

1100
01:02:06,600 --> 01:02:08,400
he'd been babysitting.
So he let them come to his

1101
01:02:08,400 --> 01:02:09,500
house.
Even though it was like a total

1102
01:02:09,500 --> 01:02:13,200
mass, it was like, full of like,
rodent droppings and food on the

1103
01:02:13,200 --> 01:02:16,100
floor, and gross Nest.
He still at them, come over and

1104
01:02:16,100 --> 01:02:18,400
they would like play cards, I
guess there was a clean-ish

1105
01:02:18,400 --> 01:02:26,500
room.
And just like that, Ed's has

1106
01:02:26,500 --> 01:02:28,200
like no one could come back to
the house now.

1107
01:02:28,200 --> 01:02:31,400
Hmm, after the rumors start
popping up at one point though,

1108
01:02:32,100 --> 01:02:38,200
I've only say like 56, he
offered to swap houses with

1109
01:02:38,200 --> 01:02:43,300
somebody like for a smaller home
and like the lady was like,

1110
01:02:43,300 --> 01:02:45,800
well, it's 185 Acres that would
be great.

1111
01:02:45,800 --> 01:02:48,700
So she went to the house and
like, looked around and it like,

1112
01:02:48,700 --> 01:02:53,700
I guess it had been semi cleaned
up at that point and At one

1113
01:02:53,700 --> 01:02:55,800
point, she like he was like, she
was like, oh, what's in that

1114
01:02:55,800 --> 01:02:57,400
room?
And he's like, that's just a

1115
01:02:57,408 --> 01:02:59,900
storage area.
Like it's a bunch of junk in

1116
01:02:59,900 --> 01:03:01,500
there.
You don't have to look at that.

1117
01:03:01,900 --> 01:03:04,800
And so she was like, oh, is that
where you keep your shrunken

1118
01:03:04,800 --> 01:03:06,300
heads?
And he was like, no, they're in

1119
01:03:06,300 --> 01:03:09,400
the other room.
Oh, he was being serious though.

1120
01:03:09,400 --> 01:03:11,400
But like nobody really.
They were like, ha, you're so

1121
01:03:11,400 --> 01:03:16,000
funny and she ended up not like,
buying his house for her house,

1122
01:03:16,000 --> 01:03:18,500
but that was another one of
those weird situations where

1123
01:03:18,800 --> 01:03:20,600
there were lots of situations
like that that happen around

1124
01:03:20,600 --> 01:03:22,900
town were like people would ask
him questions.

1125
01:03:23,000 --> 01:03:24,900
And like they thought he was
just joking but you know, I'm

1126
01:03:24,900 --> 01:03:26,400
sorry Syria and telling the
truth.

1127
01:03:26,400 --> 01:03:31,300
No, I got heads, you want to see
him November 16th 1957.

1128
01:03:32,000 --> 01:03:34,700
Local people discovered that
Bernice Worden is missing.

1129
01:03:34,900 --> 01:03:38,300
She owned a hardware store in
town and residents said that the

1130
01:03:38,300 --> 01:03:40,900
hardware store truck had been
driven from the rear of the

1131
01:03:40,900 --> 01:03:46,200
building at about 9:30 a.m. her
son, was the deputy sheriff, and

1132
01:03:46,200 --> 01:03:49,000
he visited the story at 5 and
saw that the cash register was

1133
01:03:49,000 --> 01:03:52,900
open and there was blood on the
floor and the last like this.

1134
01:03:53,100 --> 01:03:55,300
The time period where people had
to write receipts and that was

1135
01:03:55,300 --> 01:03:57,500
those two layers.
Yeah.

1136
01:03:57,500 --> 01:04:00,900
So the print, the last receipt
that had been written was for a

1137
01:04:00,900 --> 01:04:06,100
gene for, for antifreeze that.
He was supposed to come, pick up

1138
01:04:06,100 --> 01:04:08,000
the next morning.
Oh, you write your names and

1139
01:04:08,000 --> 01:04:09,400
everything on it?
Yeah, right.

1140
01:04:09,400 --> 01:04:12,500
Like, oh again, picking up
antifreeze, you know, morning

1141
01:04:12,500 --> 01:04:16,700
whatever.
Okay, so the following morning,

1142
01:04:17,300 --> 01:04:21,600
the police don't wait and they
go to The Farmhouse to talk to

1143
01:04:21,600 --> 01:04:25,000
add about the missing Hardware.
Store owner, and I guess he's

1144
01:04:25,000 --> 01:04:27,800
somewhere on the property, but
like not immediate.

1145
01:04:28,000 --> 01:04:29,700
So they just like, kind of walk
in the house because they're

1146
01:04:29,700 --> 01:04:32,900
like, it's the 1950s, we don't
have rules.

1147
01:04:34,200 --> 01:04:37,700
You should have had rules.
Well, there's Farmhouse.

1148
01:04:37,700 --> 01:04:40,200
Why say it was bad.
John Crichton garbage all over

1149
01:04:40,200 --> 01:04:42,000
on the floors.
They said the smell of

1150
01:04:42,000 --> 01:04:45,000
decomposition and decomposition
in filth is all over the

1151
01:04:45,008 --> 01:04:49,200
property, a local sheriff named
Arthur Shelly inspected the

1152
01:04:49,200 --> 01:04:54,700
kitchen, and he bumped into now.
Okay, multiple, some people say

1153
01:04:54,700 --> 01:04:57,400
this was like a shed and some
people say this was the kitchen.

1154
01:04:57,800 --> 01:05:00,800
So there are multiple sources
that say but regardless he was

1155
01:05:00,900 --> 01:05:07,100
looking around with his light
and he bumped into a carcass

1156
01:05:07,100 --> 01:05:10,500
hanging from the beams in the
beams, okay?

1157
01:05:11,000 --> 01:05:15,300
It had been decapitated slit
open, got it and at first, like

1158
01:05:15,300 --> 01:05:17,600
his brain was like, oh yeah,
whatever, dear.

1159
01:05:17,700 --> 01:05:19,800
And then he was like, no, no,
that's not a deer.

1160
01:05:21,800 --> 01:05:25,500
That's the body of a person.
It was the body of Bernice

1161
01:05:25,500 --> 01:05:30,600
Worden the mother of his
coworker, Frank Then more police

1162
01:05:30,600 --> 01:05:32,400
came.
They took a down to a police

1163
01:05:32,400 --> 01:05:35,400
station to talk to him and took
inventory of the items on the

1164
01:05:35,408 --> 01:05:38,200
farm and I have read this list
once before on Tick-Tock.

1165
01:05:38,300 --> 01:05:41,600
Yes I've truncated it's
somewhat.

1166
01:05:43,100 --> 01:05:47,400
So while looking through his
house they find four noses whole

1167
01:05:47,400 --> 01:05:51,900
human bones fragments 9 masks
made of human skin bowls made

1168
01:05:51,900 --> 01:05:55,400
from human skulls, ten, female
heads with the top part of the

1169
01:05:55,400 --> 01:05:56,400
skull.
Shaved off.

1170
01:05:56,700 --> 01:05:59,400
Human skin covering several
cheese.

1171
01:05:59,500 --> 01:06:02,300
These chairs.
Mary Hogan's head in a paper

1172
01:06:02,300 --> 01:06:04,600
bag.
Bernice worden's head in a

1173
01:06:04,607 --> 01:06:07,900
burlap.
Sack 9 vulvas in a shoebox.

1174
01:06:08,800 --> 01:06:14,700
Skulls on his bed post organs in
the refrigerator, a pair of lips

1175
01:06:14,700 --> 01:06:17,400
on a drawstring.
For the window, shade in his

1176
01:06:17,400 --> 01:06:22,100
room, a belt made from Human
nipples, a lampshade made from

1177
01:06:22,100 --> 01:06:24,000
the skin of a human face.
And of course the one that

1178
01:06:24,000 --> 01:06:31,600
everybody knows the most the
corset made out of breasts and

1179
01:06:31,600 --> 01:06:35,000
he had a skin suit.
It was a whole people suit.

1180
01:06:35,100 --> 01:06:36,700
Yes.
And he had put together over

1181
01:06:36,700 --> 01:06:40,300
time, all these items were I've
cataloged and then reburied you

1182
01:06:40,300 --> 01:06:42,700
are welcome to look for them.
I this is one of the few things

1183
01:06:42,700 --> 01:06:45,600
that I found repulsive like the
shoes.

1184
01:06:45,600 --> 01:06:49,400
Yeah, I've seen pictures.
They were like, it's just I

1185
01:06:49,400 --> 01:06:53,100
could when I made that video,
you were like, look at these.

1186
01:06:53,100 --> 01:06:54,500
I did too.
And as a know what?

1187
01:06:54,500 --> 01:06:56,800
I should have looked like, I
don't know, there were a pair of

1188
01:06:56,800 --> 01:07:00,000
shoes and they just looked so
bad, they're a pair of heels.

1189
01:07:00,000 --> 01:07:03,100
Yeah, he must have stolen them
from my cold dead body and like

1190
01:07:03,100 --> 01:07:05,300
covered them in flesh.
It was awful.

1191
01:07:05,300 --> 01:07:09,300
That's exactly what he did.
But the bigger Question was to

1192
01:07:09,300 --> 01:07:13,100
find out like, how did you get
these?

1193
01:07:13,800 --> 01:07:16,000
The police began his major
excavation of the property.

1194
01:07:16,000 --> 01:07:18,500
To make sure there weren't any
bodies buried on top of what

1195
01:07:18,500 --> 01:07:20,000
they found.
The house, he's being

1196
01:07:20,000 --> 01:07:22,700
interviewed at what Toma County
jail house by investigators.

1197
01:07:23,000 --> 01:07:26,300
He doesn't talk for the first
day and then, after a whole day

1198
01:07:26,300 --> 01:07:28,800
of Silence, he tells he's like,
okay, I killed mrs.

1199
01:07:28,800 --> 01:07:30,900
Wharton.
And then he says, I felt the

1200
01:07:30,900 --> 01:07:33,100
rest of the bodies at the local
Cemetery.

1201
01:07:34,600 --> 01:07:37,700
Well, the problem with that is
Mary Hogan's head, is in a paper

1202
01:07:37,700 --> 01:07:40,300
bag, and you definitely didn't
find her in the cemetery.

1203
01:07:40,300 --> 01:07:45,600
No, you did not.
So they're like, so they there's

1204
01:07:45,600 --> 01:07:48,800
more interrogation there.
And so finally, he says he

1205
01:07:48,800 --> 01:07:52,100
killed Mary Hogan to, he said he
didn't remember doing it, but he

1206
01:07:52,100 --> 01:07:57,200
accidentally shocked like shot
her and that sometimes he would

1207
01:07:57,200 --> 01:07:59,100
just like, leave his house in
the middle of the night and he

1208
01:07:59,100 --> 01:08:00,500
was in like a trance.
He would just go to the

1209
01:08:00,500 --> 01:08:02,000
cemetery.
Hmm.

1210
01:08:03,100 --> 01:08:04,500
Throughout the entire
investigation, though.

1211
01:08:04,500 --> 01:08:08,400
He showed almost no sign of
remorse or any emotion actually.

1212
01:08:08,800 --> 01:08:11,500
Like everything was always
factual and to the point

1213
01:08:11,600 --> 01:08:14,600
Sometimes he even like smiled,
when he was telling people all

1214
01:08:14,600 --> 01:08:17,000
the stuff he did.
He had no real understanding of

1215
01:08:17,000 --> 01:08:20,500
how these crimes are affecting
his community, or the entire

1216
01:08:20,500 --> 01:08:25,100
country for that matter.
As, for prepping for trial, the

1217
01:08:25,100 --> 01:08:29,300
courts immediately submitted him
to a lot of doctors for tests

1218
01:08:30,100 --> 01:08:33,000
psychologist and psychiatrist.
Immediately said that he was a

1219
01:08:33,000 --> 01:08:36,100
sexual psychopath due to his
extremely unhealthy

1220
01:08:36,100 --> 01:08:38,399
relationship, between him and
his mother, and his very

1221
01:08:38,399 --> 01:08:42,300
confusing feelings about sex and
sexuality that His mother kind

1222
01:08:42,300 --> 01:08:46,700
of beat into him through that,
he had learned to sort of love

1223
01:08:46,700 --> 01:08:52,000
and hate women, and this was his
way of dealing with that, after

1224
01:08:52,000 --> 01:08:54,800
a really big Court battle
actually, because the police

1225
01:08:54,800 --> 01:08:58,100
were like, there's no way for us
to tell that these came from

1226
01:08:58,100 --> 01:09:02,800
the, the places where he said,
unless we exhume the, the

1227
01:09:02,800 --> 01:09:05,899
cemetery spots that he told us
to write, so, there was a fight

1228
01:09:05,899 --> 01:09:07,700
over whether they should even do
that.

1229
01:09:09,100 --> 01:09:11,500
And so, they eventually did
manage to get that.

1230
01:09:11,600 --> 01:09:15,200
That exhumation order.
And when they opened the dug up,

1231
01:09:15,200 --> 01:09:19,200
the graves, the coffins did show
signs of tampering, and a lot of

1232
01:09:19,207 --> 01:09:23,000
the coffins showed sections of
bodies removed.

1233
01:09:24,300 --> 01:09:26,899
Okay, as for the city of
Plainfield.

1234
01:09:28,000 --> 01:09:32,800
The town is besieged by fans
people trying to get a glimpse

1235
01:09:32,800 --> 01:09:35,700
of the game property.
Reporters trying to get a story

1236
01:09:35,899 --> 01:09:39,000
psychiatrists and psychologists
trying to talk to Ed showing up

1237
01:09:39,000 --> 01:09:42,000
at the precinct.
Thousands of people are showing

1238
01:09:42,000 --> 01:09:49,200
up and the company that was
handling the sale of the state

1239
01:09:50,000 --> 01:09:52,500
like talked about how they were
going to charge 50 cents for

1240
01:09:52,500 --> 01:09:55,400
people to see the house and the
townspeople were like, no, your

1241
01:09:55,400 --> 01:09:59,600
mind.
Didn't happen but it didn't

1242
01:09:59,600 --> 01:10:03,600
matter anyway because on March
28th 1958 the Plainfield.

1243
01:10:03,600 --> 01:10:06,500
Volunteer fire department got a
phone call that the gene house

1244
01:10:06,500 --> 01:10:08,000
is on fire.
There you go.

1245
01:10:08,400 --> 01:10:10,300
It very quickly.
Burned to the ground before

1246
01:10:10,300 --> 01:10:13,700
anyone could get there police
assumed arson, because the house

1247
01:10:13,700 --> 01:10:18,700
had no electricity and despite
they try to do a very like

1248
01:10:18,700 --> 01:10:21,700
thorough investigation, nobody
was ever charged because there

1249
01:10:21,700 --> 01:10:23,500
was nothing.
Did they know?

1250
01:10:24,000 --> 01:10:28,300
You know, I found nothing to say
that of the You know, different

1251
01:10:28,300 --> 01:10:29,600
of the sort.
Uh-huh.

1252
01:10:30,600 --> 01:10:33,700
The Gein farm equipment though
was auctioned off and so was the

1253
01:10:33,708 --> 01:10:38,200
car that sold for seven hundred
sixty dollars which is about

1254
01:10:38,200 --> 01:10:41,500
seven thousand dollars in.
Today's money it was put on the

1255
01:10:41,500 --> 01:10:43,800
county fair circuit as the
Google car.

1256
01:10:43,800 --> 01:10:46,900
Oh God because at how to use it
to haul the dead bodies.

1257
01:10:48,000 --> 01:10:51,600
As for Ed's fate, after he spent
10 years in a mental health

1258
01:10:51,600 --> 01:10:55,700
facility, the court decided he
was cognizant enough to stand

1259
01:10:55,700 --> 01:11:00,400
trial and the proceedings for
that started January 22nd 1968

1260
01:11:00,400 --> 01:11:04,700
but the full trial didn't start
until November 7th. 1968, the

1261
01:11:04,700 --> 01:11:11,600
main like, testimony was from
like lab technicians and the

1262
01:11:11,600 --> 01:11:15,500
sheriff and the deputy sheriff
and he was found guilty but the

1263
01:11:15,500 --> 01:11:18,100
problem was he was deemed that
he was saying when the I'm

1264
01:11:18,100 --> 01:11:21,300
happened.
So ultimately, they send him

1265
01:11:21,300 --> 01:11:25,200
back to the facility where he
spent the rest of his life, he

1266
01:11:25,200 --> 01:11:28,600
was a model patient and actually
like every single doctor

1267
01:11:28,600 --> 01:11:31,300
interviewed post, who dealt with
him said that he was almost

1268
01:11:31,300 --> 01:11:33,100
docile.
It was white.

1269
01:11:33,100 --> 01:11:36,000
Like they were like, we don't
understand how this person did

1270
01:11:36,000 --> 01:11:39,300
this stuff shows like no signs
of anything.

1271
01:11:39,300 --> 01:11:41,300
He liked is just the.
Yeah.

1272
01:11:41,300 --> 01:11:43,600
But I'm also assuming it was
probably heavily medicated at

1273
01:11:43,600 --> 01:11:47,400
that point to.
Hmm, he died of respiratory

1274
01:11:47,400 --> 01:11:50,900
failure.
I'm 77 years old on July 26

1275
01:11:50,900 --> 01:11:55,800
1984, and he was buried with a
gravestone, but because True

1276
01:11:55,800 --> 01:11:59,200
Crime folks are awful.
Of course, they begun breaking

1277
01:11:59,200 --> 01:12:00,900
pieces off of it.
And like, if you look at the I

1278
01:12:00,900 --> 01:12:04,500
found a picture of it like it
had chunks like missing and then

1279
01:12:04,500 --> 01:12:07,900
finally somebody stole the grave
marker in 2000.

1280
01:12:08,300 --> 01:12:11,300
So now he's buried in an
unmarked grave between his

1281
01:12:11,300 --> 01:12:13,600
parents and his brother.
So you'd have to look up like

1282
01:12:13,600 --> 01:12:17,200
County records right to find out
where his parents and his

1283
01:12:17,200 --> 01:12:19,800
brother are.
Read to be able to find out

1284
01:12:19,800 --> 01:12:21,700
where he's been buried.
Damn, that's fucked up.

1285
01:12:21,900 --> 01:12:24,800
Yeah.
And you talk about him being

1286
01:12:24,800 --> 01:12:26,900
grave-robber, you guys are
robbing so from his grave,

1287
01:12:26,900 --> 01:12:29,700
right?
I know that, you know, what's

1288
01:12:29,700 --> 01:12:33,100
that word pot calling the kettle
black, maybe Paco.

1289
01:12:33,100 --> 01:12:35,600
Ironic.
That's a, that's like his irony

1290
01:12:35,600 --> 01:12:38,200
that ironic.
This is iris is really ironic.

1291
01:12:38,200 --> 01:12:41,000
This is kind of ironic or is it
a traffic jam?

1292
01:12:41,000 --> 01:12:45,700
We're already late.
That's the end for me.

1293
01:12:46,800 --> 01:12:51,100
Yeah, I actually, I always do
what Ed Gein did but I didn't

1294
01:12:51,100 --> 01:12:52,800
know the full scope of the the
family.

1295
01:12:52,900 --> 01:12:55,700
Familial relationship, which is
what I've been thinking about

1296
01:12:55,900 --> 01:12:58,900
and reading about.
I didn't know any of that back

1297
01:12:58,900 --> 01:13:00,800
story at all.
So, there we go.

1298
01:13:01,000 --> 01:13:05,700
I just knew about the body part
here, the body parts in size a

1299
01:13:05,708 --> 01:13:09,100
little lamb stuff, and I was
like, oh, that's disgusting.

1300
01:13:09,300 --> 01:13:12,100
Yeah, I wonder, I sometimes
wonder if he ever knew that

1301
01:13:12,100 --> 01:13:15,600
there were all these movies that
were made based on like his

1302
01:13:15,600 --> 01:13:17,900
debauchery.
Maybe he's in hell, just looking

1303
01:13:17,900 --> 01:13:21,500
up and saying, huh, interesting
and you guys are all fucked up.

1304
01:13:37,200 --> 01:13:42,800
All right, so I have been trying
to honor some requests.

1305
01:13:42,800 --> 01:13:47,400
I've been getting, we just got
an email.

1306
01:13:47,400 --> 01:13:51,800
He's got an email last week
about from somebody, you know it

1307
01:13:51,800 --> 01:13:56,900
pays.
Yeah, it pays off to wine is

1308
01:13:56,900 --> 01:13:58,700
what I gotta say.
It pays off.

1309
01:13:58,800 --> 01:14:02,600
I think you're being salty.
I think his caddy yells.

1310
01:14:02,600 --> 01:14:07,100
Akt our caddies.
Yeah, a type-0 Katie but But

1311
01:14:08,300 --> 01:14:12,900
she's the first person who used
our official websites email

1312
01:14:13,000 --> 01:14:15,500
email option, like send us a
message.

1313
01:14:15,500 --> 01:14:20,300
Yeah, oops.
I do appreciate your email and I

1314
01:14:20,300 --> 01:14:22,700
will cover one of the one of
those two stories that you sent

1315
01:14:22,700 --> 01:14:26,900
me in at a later date.
Cookie stories about Georgia.

1316
01:14:26,900 --> 01:14:29,800
Yeah, but yeah, thanks for
having us.

1317
01:14:30,200 --> 01:14:34,100
Yes, I do appreciate it.
Um, the reason why I'm not

1318
01:14:34,100 --> 01:14:37,000
covering any of those other two
Georgia stories is because as

1319
01:14:37,000 --> 01:14:40,700
I'm off, I was already covering
a Georgia story that I really

1320
01:14:41,400 --> 01:14:44,900
almost picked a Georgian serial
killer to be on brand.

1321
01:14:45,100 --> 01:14:48,200
But I don't know.
Wisconsin was just in my mind.

1322
01:14:48,200 --> 01:14:50,500
Let me ask me.
Yeah, these past couple weeks.

1323
01:14:50,500 --> 01:14:54,300
I like never mind when who has
cancer?

1324
01:14:54,600 --> 01:15:00,800
No.
Bad back your hands or oh my

1325
01:15:00,800 --> 01:15:07,600
goodness.
Anyway, I got a so before like

1326
01:15:07,600 --> 01:15:10,000
when we first started the
podcast, I was telling one of my

1327
01:15:10,000 --> 01:15:12,000
co-workers about it.
Bringing those who I'm talking

1328
01:15:12,000 --> 01:15:16,300
about, it's one guy who works on
the weekends, he probably never

1329
01:15:16,300 --> 01:15:18,600
listens to the podcast.
You know, who I'm talking about

1330
01:15:18,600 --> 01:15:19,600
that.
Look on your face.

1331
01:15:19,700 --> 01:15:21,600
Yeah.
That one, the Brittany does not

1332
01:15:21,600 --> 01:15:25,700
like alcohol when it comes to
work.

1333
01:15:25,700 --> 01:15:28,300
You just need people to be there
and do their jobs, okay?

1334
01:15:28,800 --> 01:15:31,000
If you do it you are there and
you were do your job, I like

1335
01:15:31,000 --> 01:15:34,200
you.
But If you're not there, you

1336
01:15:34,200 --> 01:15:38,200
don't show up or you call out
randomly and then a certain

1337
01:15:38,200 --> 01:15:42,000
someone sitting across from me
at the podcast table has to you

1338
01:15:42,000 --> 01:15:47,000
know, handle that.
And work 14-hour shift.

1339
01:15:48,200 --> 01:15:51,100
Then I'm not your biggest fan.
She's not your biggest fan, I

1340
01:15:51,100 --> 01:15:53,000
don't think you.
Look, he listens to the podcast,

1341
01:15:53,000 --> 01:15:54,900
but I don't fucking care.
Does you're going to have an

1342
01:15:54,900 --> 01:16:00,200
awkward day?
One day is probably like one

1343
01:16:00,200 --> 01:16:01,600
Friday, he's probably going to
come into work and I should be

1344
01:16:01,600 --> 01:16:04,900
in the building and be like I
heard your podcast last week

1345
01:16:05,800 --> 01:16:09,900
like you know podcast from
several months ago you don't

1346
01:16:09,900 --> 01:16:11,700
like me.
Oh no, dude.

1347
01:16:11,700 --> 01:16:13,600
Like you're okay.
Like you're a cool dude.

1348
01:16:13,600 --> 01:16:17,500
But work is exit.
Ask him to call me.

1349
01:16:17,500 --> 01:16:21,900
I'll Thank you and I'll tell you
anyway.

1350
01:16:23,700 --> 01:16:27,300
He did suggest me to cover this
interesting story.

1351
01:16:27,300 --> 01:16:30,300
Oh well, look at that in
Georgia.

1352
01:16:30,600 --> 01:16:32,400
The time about three guilty
folks.

1353
01:16:32,400 --> 01:16:33,900
I'm here.
What is it?

1354
01:16:35,600 --> 01:16:38,200
So like I said today will be
heading to Georgia where the

1355
01:16:38,208 --> 01:16:49,200
peach Emoji lives.
This is a fun.

1356
01:16:49,300 --> 01:16:55,400
This is a fun time today.
This is why I pick things that

1357
01:16:55,400 --> 01:16:57,500
frustrate you.
This is why I pick things that

1358
01:16:57,500 --> 01:17:00,300
annoy you, okay?
Then isolate think that I knew

1359
01:17:00,300 --> 01:17:04,200
you was Payback.
Now, I don't know much about,

1360
01:17:04,200 --> 01:17:08,700
you know, the state Georgia, my
grandma was from there, you

1361
01:17:08,708 --> 01:17:12,700
know, I never lived in Georgia,
I visitor, I hear macon's

1362
01:17:12,700 --> 01:17:15,200
terrible though.
Alright mom, PLS are terrible.

1363
01:17:15,200 --> 01:17:18,300
Actually yeah.
Doesn't everybody feel that way

1364
01:17:18,300 --> 01:17:19,600
about their Hometown, those
true?

1365
01:17:19,900 --> 01:17:22,500
I've never been so many was
like, wow, I just really love

1366
01:17:22,500 --> 01:17:25,600
where I grew up.
Everybody's always like super

1367
01:17:25,600 --> 01:17:28,000
mad.
Like, how dare I grew up here?

1368
01:17:30,000 --> 01:17:32,200
But yeah, it's not a bad place
to visit.

1369
01:17:32,200 --> 01:17:35,800
Sometimes I'll write you drew
you drove down there.

1370
01:17:35,800 --> 01:17:38,400
When yeah, I drive through
there, sometimes to go to

1371
01:17:38,400 --> 01:17:41,800
Florida dreadknight that.
I think the last time I took me

1372
01:17:41,800 --> 01:17:47,600
about 17 hours ago, a heart.
So, anyway, that sounds awful,

1373
01:17:47,800 --> 01:17:54,000
have you heard of like linear
It's drawing a blank right now.

1374
01:17:54,200 --> 01:17:57,200
You have not was surprising.
Currently has been all over

1375
01:17:57,200 --> 01:17:58,700
Tick-Tock and I'll explain that
later.

1376
01:18:01,500 --> 01:18:04,100
I'll explain that later.
Yeah, but like linear.

1377
01:18:04,500 --> 01:18:07,200
I'm sure most people who are
listening or some people

1378
01:18:07,200 --> 01:18:10,600
listening who know about spooky
stuff, no Lake Lanier.

1379
01:18:12,300 --> 01:18:14,000
You know, it's pretty cool place
to visit.

1380
01:18:16,300 --> 01:18:19,700
But you know it always he wasn't
a like you know like most likes

1381
01:18:19,700 --> 01:18:22,100
it was actually a man-made lake.
Okay.

1382
01:18:24,500 --> 01:18:27,400
So I'm give you some backstory
of Lake, okay?

1383
01:18:27,500 --> 01:18:34,800
So like when the air is Georges
largest lake and its it was made

1384
01:18:34,800 --> 01:18:37,300
after the construction of the
Buford.

1385
01:18:37,300 --> 01:18:41,200
Damn.
So this is one of two bodies of

1386
01:18:41,200 --> 01:18:48,300
water that are named after
Georgia Georgia, born poet.

1387
01:18:48,500 --> 01:18:52,200
His name is Sidney Lanier.
Okay, sit in the mirror.

1388
01:18:52,200 --> 01:18:56,200
He was born in 1842.
He wasn't only a poet.

1389
01:18:56,200 --> 01:19:02,700
He was a musician and author and
he served for the Confederate in

1390
01:19:02,700 --> 01:19:05,500
the Army.
Okay, the savour, you know, you

1391
01:19:05,500 --> 01:19:08,500
know what?
I'm excited for so you know how,

1392
01:19:08,600 --> 01:19:11,600
you know, you know, you know,
help people who are not fans of

1393
01:19:11,608 --> 01:19:14,400
the Confederacy here.
We're really not sorry.

1394
01:19:15,100 --> 01:19:18,200
Um, but apparently, he was even
a lawyer.

1395
01:19:18,400 --> 01:19:21,400
So, you know, apparently this
guy was the shit.

1396
01:19:21,500 --> 01:19:23,400
Okay.
That in his time.

1397
01:19:25,600 --> 01:19:29,500
And this time is it now?
And no, not not alone, in his

1398
01:19:29,500 --> 01:19:38,500
time in the area.
Oh my God, I'm sorry.

1399
01:19:40,200 --> 01:19:42,800
Okay.
So anyway, so how did it come to

1400
01:19:42,800 --> 01:19:46,300
be well?
Like I mentioned before it was a

1401
01:19:46,300 --> 01:19:51,000
man-made lake made as a result
of a dam being built.

1402
01:19:52,500 --> 01:20:01,100
Now, the lake was built, was
finished in 1956, but it was

1403
01:20:01,200 --> 01:20:04,900
before it was set to be made
before that Anakin 1940, like

1404
01:20:04,900 --> 01:20:09,800
1946, 1946.
So that 10 years earlier, the

1405
01:20:09,800 --> 01:20:19,100
government had commissioned, The
the US Army Corp of Engineers

1406
01:20:19,100 --> 01:20:20,500
deconstructed.
Damn.

1407
01:20:21,300 --> 01:20:23,100
Now what was the reason for this
damn?

1408
01:20:23,600 --> 01:20:30,900
Well it was for controlling
flooding help provide a water

1409
01:20:30,900 --> 01:20:36,200
source for Atlanta and around
that area surrounding area and

1410
01:20:36,200 --> 01:20:40,000
it was help, it was used to help
the power homes as well so they

1411
01:20:40,000 --> 01:20:42,700
use hydroelectricity cool.
Yeah.

1412
01:20:42,900 --> 01:20:47,100
Yeah, that's very awesome.
I like just like, you know.

1413
01:20:47,100 --> 01:20:51,600
Yeah, yeah.
So yeah, could you talk about

1414
01:20:51,600 --> 01:20:54,600
how like, how many people died
during the creation of the

1415
01:20:54,600 --> 01:20:57,100
Hoover Dam?
Oh my God, a lot.

1416
01:20:58,200 --> 01:20:59,400
We're going to be talking about
people dying.

1417
01:20:59,400 --> 01:21:04,400
All right?
Oh, So yeah, the US like I said,

1418
01:21:04,400 --> 01:21:08,600
use government, they test US
Army Corp of Engineers with

1419
01:21:08,600 --> 01:21:15,200
building Lake Lanier and
conjunction to what the Buford.

1420
01:21:15,200 --> 01:21:17,700
Damn, this is really throwing me
for a loop.

1421
01:21:17,700 --> 01:21:19,700
Why don't I know anything about
what you're talking about?

1422
01:21:19,700 --> 01:21:21,800
I don't know.
I think I just heard about it

1423
01:21:21,800 --> 01:21:23,700
this year, too.
So, there you go.

1424
01:21:25,200 --> 01:21:30,500
So this is this was almost a 45
million dollar.

1425
01:21:31,600 --> 01:21:35,600
It had a 45 million dollar
budget for this British creation

1426
01:21:35,600 --> 01:21:40,900
of damn other than when and what
time period was this 19 as well.

1427
01:21:40,900 --> 01:21:42,700
1950s.
That's a lot of money.

1428
01:21:42,700 --> 01:21:45,000
Yeah, it is.
I don't even want to know how

1429
01:21:45,000 --> 01:21:47,200
much it is now.
I don't want to know.

1430
01:21:50,200 --> 01:21:54,700
So, why do they meet as much
money to make a lake and a damn?

1431
01:21:55,600 --> 01:21:56,400
How?
Well, it is.

1432
01:21:56,400 --> 01:21:59,600
It, it's pretty big.
I didn't like download the

1433
01:21:59,600 --> 01:22:04,500
specifics, I'm terrible research
and it's going to say that Brian

1434
01:22:04,500 --> 01:22:06,200
cares.
More about the, The Spook in the

1435
01:22:06,200 --> 01:22:10,100
story aspects and the background
research, I'm not the best part

1436
01:22:10,100 --> 01:22:11,700
about that.
Is that you asking me things

1437
01:22:11,700 --> 01:22:15,700
that I don't think to look up.
You're like, well, how big is

1438
01:22:15,700 --> 01:22:18,700
this force in Australia?
And I'm like, I did ask you

1439
01:22:18,700 --> 01:22:21,200
this.
It's like a huge man.

1440
01:22:21,300 --> 01:22:23,200
A big.
This lake is the biggest in

1441
01:22:23,200 --> 01:22:24,300
Georgia.
That's all.

1442
01:22:24,300 --> 01:22:26,200
I'm gonna.
That's all I know about it.

1443
01:22:26,200 --> 01:22:30,600
Okay.
So, they needed this much money

1444
01:22:30,800 --> 01:22:35,400
because they had to buy land.
Oh, right?

1445
01:22:35,500 --> 01:22:38,500
What we call that again,
Americans, just take people's

1446
01:22:38,500 --> 01:22:41,000
land.
What is that called?

1447
01:22:41,800 --> 01:22:45,200
What is like, I actually do the
indigenous people, what's it

1448
01:22:45,200 --> 01:22:48,600
called again, appropriate?
Nope, nope, nope.

1449
01:22:50,800 --> 01:22:54,800
It'll come to me randomly.
Yeah, yeah, I'm drunk goodness

1450
01:22:54,800 --> 01:22:56,400
gracious.
What is that called?

1451
01:22:57,500 --> 01:23:00,900
Something Destiny, something.
Oh, management Manifest.

1452
01:23:02,400 --> 01:23:05,900
This is like one step above
Manifest Destiny because he get

1453
01:23:05,900 --> 01:23:08,200
the, you getting money from.
Hey, but they still like treat

1454
01:23:08,200 --> 01:23:11,600
you like garbage.
Basically, we'll get into that

1455
01:23:11,700 --> 01:23:15,600
later as well.
That shit was help people too.

1456
01:23:18,100 --> 01:23:22,000
So, like I said, headed by land,
but the problem was that there

1457
01:23:22,000 --> 01:23:25,800
were already towns, and people
living here, their whole lives,

1458
01:23:25,800 --> 01:23:29,000
whole towns towns.
There's your little daughter

1459
01:23:29,000 --> 01:23:32,200
towns in this.
There's like a whole area that

1460
01:23:32,200 --> 01:23:35,400
they had to buy.
It's got a pretty big then.

1461
01:23:35,800 --> 01:23:43,600
I do have how many 56,000 acres
of land, that's how much they

1462
01:23:43,600 --> 01:23:45,200
had to buy.
Massive.

1463
01:23:46,800 --> 01:23:49,700
That's not a lake.
That's like a little baby ocean.

1464
01:23:51,800 --> 01:23:54,300
That's pretty 6,000 acres of
land.

1465
01:23:54,300 --> 01:23:57,900
Oh my gosh that this they had to
buy.

1466
01:23:58,100 --> 01:24:03,400
So not only did they have like
you know, people farms and they

1467
01:24:03,400 --> 01:24:06,100
had businesses there, they had
churches there, they had a

1468
01:24:06,100 --> 01:24:09,700
cemetery there and people had
their own personal family,

1469
01:24:09,700 --> 01:24:13,100
cemeteries there to freeze.
What do you do about that?

1470
01:24:13,100 --> 01:24:16,200
I mean, I mean, okay, there have
been situations locally around

1471
01:24:16,200 --> 01:24:19,800
here.
My understand about cemeteries

1472
01:24:19,800 --> 01:24:23,600
that were okay.
So what they were supposed to do

1473
01:24:23,600 --> 01:24:25,800
was move people, they happen in
Philadelphia outside of

1474
01:24:25,808 --> 01:24:28,400
Philadelphia, but instead, what
they ended up doing which is

1475
01:24:28,400 --> 01:24:31,900
building on top of it and then
like decades later, finding out

1476
01:24:31,900 --> 01:24:36,300
that there were still like
dozens of graves underneath the

1477
01:24:36,300 --> 01:24:39,000
houses in town, this sounds like
Portuguese.

1478
01:24:39,900 --> 01:24:44,900
I think this is kind of where
that was because it was really

1479
01:24:44,900 --> 01:24:46,300
common.
Yeah.

1480
01:24:46,500 --> 01:24:49,200
Like so much work to move all
these gravestones.

1481
01:24:49,400 --> 01:24:51,500
What if we just move some of
these Graves?

1482
01:24:51,500 --> 01:24:55,000
What if we just move the
gravestones and nobody will

1483
01:24:55,000 --> 01:24:57,400
know, that's definitely
Poltergeist my God.

1484
01:24:57,400 --> 01:25:00,400
Yeah, no, I didn't realize that
and I'm the white ever be that

1485
01:25:00,400 --> 01:25:01,600
reference.
But like, I definitely remember

1486
01:25:01,600 --> 01:25:06,700
hearing about that about a
cemetery that was like on the

1487
01:25:06,700 --> 01:25:09,500
outskirts of Philadelphia and
then as Philadelphia got bigger,

1488
01:25:10,300 --> 01:25:13,300
they needed to move it and they
just didn't.

1489
01:25:13,300 --> 01:25:15,900
And then like we're talking
years and years later, they

1490
01:25:15,900 --> 01:25:20,600
found Old stuff from back then.
And then also, when I was living

1491
01:25:20,600 --> 01:25:25,200
there, they found underneath
like Center City.

1492
01:25:25,600 --> 01:25:30,700
The old like foundations Old
Philadelphia, she's slave

1493
01:25:30,700 --> 01:25:35,000
houses.
Do not were owned by Good Old

1494
01:25:35,000 --> 01:25:37,400
Ben Franklin.
Fucking course been frankly you

1495
01:25:37,400 --> 01:25:40,600
douchebag anyway and they
actually what they did was they

1496
01:25:40,600 --> 01:25:42,000
like didn't move them or
anything.

1497
01:25:42,200 --> 01:25:46,000
They just put like a nice
plexiglass, spot above it and

1498
01:25:46,000 --> 01:25:48,800
like a No place for people could
look in, I don't know if it's

1499
01:25:48,800 --> 01:25:50,400
still there.
It was there years ago, but

1500
01:25:50,400 --> 01:25:51,300
like, they didn't want to move
it.

1501
01:25:51,300 --> 01:25:53,400
They were like, this is
historical Philadelphia.

1502
01:25:53,400 --> 01:25:55,400
Like, you know why?
I think he's a douche bag.

1503
01:25:55,500 --> 01:25:58,500
Why Daylight Savings Time
daylight, saving time.

1504
01:25:58,600 --> 01:26:01,000
Why do we do that?
We still do it.

1505
01:26:01,000 --> 01:26:02,300
It's weird.
No reason.

1506
01:26:02,400 --> 01:26:04,700
No reason for us to keep doing
that, like back then.

1507
01:26:04,700 --> 01:26:06,600
Okay, cool nowadays?
Fuck?

1508
01:26:06,600 --> 01:26:08,000
No.
You don't need that.

1509
01:26:08,500 --> 01:26:12,600
I guess it's not dishes.
No, I get the sun that's still

1510
01:26:12,600 --> 01:26:17,300
up at like, what time is it now,
8:30, it's a Ladies, let's do

1511
01:26:17,300 --> 01:26:20,400
it.
I like the Sun up at 8:30, don't

1512
01:26:20,400 --> 01:26:22,600
know?
Okay, this is cool when it flips

1513
01:26:22,600 --> 01:26:24,900
and that's that's that's we're
talking about, I'm talking about

1514
01:26:24,900 --> 01:26:27,000
the flipping market like five.
Yes.

1515
01:26:27,000 --> 01:26:30,000
Then I like leave in the morning
is dark and I come home and it's

1516
01:26:30,000 --> 01:26:30,600
dark.
Yeah.

1517
01:26:30,600 --> 01:26:32,400
And I'm just a person of the
dark.

1518
01:26:32,400 --> 01:26:34,100
That's what I don't like is when
it flips.

1519
01:26:34,100 --> 01:26:37,000
Now this time it's also I think
summer time for that because the

1520
01:26:37,008 --> 01:26:39,700
sun still up but any other time.
Yeah.

1521
01:26:39,700 --> 01:26:41,800
Well that's interesting.
Finding like so.

1522
01:26:41,800 --> 01:26:43,300
Did they do they do it the right
way.

1523
01:26:43,300 --> 01:26:45,100
So Ryan did they do it the right
way?

1524
01:26:45,200 --> 01:26:49,600
So they Paid to have these
bodies moved.

1525
01:26:49,600 --> 01:26:55,000
Okay, I'm not sure about all of
the personal family Graves.

1526
01:26:55,600 --> 01:26:59,000
Look into that later.
Oh, sounds bad.

1527
01:27:00,500 --> 01:27:05,200
So now the buying started, you
know, buying a lamb started with

1528
01:27:05,400 --> 01:27:09,300
an 81-year old.
His name was Henry Chadbourne

1529
01:27:09,400 --> 01:27:10,900
yeah.
Be nice to Henry.

1530
01:27:10,900 --> 01:27:14,000
Yeah he sold his land for four
thousand one hundred dollars.

1531
01:27:14,100 --> 01:27:15,800
That's good mind before you
$100.

1532
01:27:16,300 --> 01:27:17,800
Yeah.
That's not bad by another house

1533
01:27:17,800 --> 01:27:19,000
for that.
Yeah, exactly.

1534
01:27:19,700 --> 01:27:22,800
Now, do you think o of the
buying of land?

1535
01:27:22,800 --> 01:27:24,600
You know what this movie of
listener?

1536
01:27:24,700 --> 01:27:27,800
No, of course not.
Fuck course not a lot of people

1537
01:27:27,800 --> 01:27:29,900
were like, fuck this like my
great great.

1538
01:27:30,000 --> 01:27:33,800
Great grandpa left me this land
and I'll be damned if I'm going

1539
01:27:33,800 --> 01:27:36,000
to sell it.
I'm gonna be honest though, like

1540
01:27:36,000 --> 01:27:39,800
my my dad, my parents have a
house here and like if somebody

1541
01:27:39,800 --> 01:27:42,800
was like, listen, we're just
going to raise that entire area

1542
01:27:42,800 --> 01:27:48,100
and make a giant Park here.
The river I'd be like, how what

1543
01:27:48,100 --> 01:27:51,000
you what you selling for ya?
Like millions of dollars.

1544
01:27:51,000 --> 01:27:52,900
I just buy more land somewhere
else.

1545
01:27:53,200 --> 01:27:56,400
Exactly.
I'm not fighting with the

1546
01:27:56,400 --> 01:27:58,700
government because then what
they do is they Manifest Destiny

1547
01:27:58,700 --> 01:28:00,300
and you get nothing.
Exactly.

1548
01:28:00,600 --> 01:28:03,100
They go like, listen everybody
in your community is sold except

1549
01:28:03,100 --> 01:28:05,900
for you, that's like going to
take it.

1550
01:28:05,900 --> 01:28:08,700
Now, what is it?
It's a it's like from up in

1551
01:28:08,700 --> 01:28:10,800
your.
Yeah, you're you're you're

1552
01:28:10,800 --> 01:28:13,100
stopping like Community
Development or growth or

1553
01:28:13,100 --> 01:28:16,300
whatever solar building around
your small a tiny house.

1554
01:28:17,500 --> 01:28:20,200
Oh my God.
Yeah, so I would just do it.

1555
01:28:20,500 --> 01:28:23,200
So I feel, I understand it, but
I understand people wanting to

1556
01:28:23,200 --> 01:28:26,800
fight for their ancestral homes
and lands, but I'll have it in

1557
01:28:26,808 --> 01:28:30,400
me to fight the US government.
Sorry, I'm not a freedom

1558
01:28:30,400 --> 01:28:31,800
fighter.
I think I wrote that in here,

1559
01:28:31,800 --> 01:28:34,200
somewhere.
That like you, like if someone

1560
01:28:34,200 --> 01:28:37,000
offered me enough, then I'd
fucking take it.

1561
01:28:37,000 --> 01:28:39,200
Like, I'm sorry, my ancestors
are going to be proud of me for

1562
01:28:39,200 --> 01:28:41,600
making that much money.
That's why I'm saying I can just

1563
01:28:41,600 --> 01:28:43,600
listen, we got to have a new
ancestral.

1564
01:28:43,600 --> 01:28:46,100
My God, hell yeah.
Future Generations.

1565
01:28:46,400 --> 01:28:49,800
They be like You had that little
like half acre and now you got

1566
01:28:49,800 --> 01:28:52,000
20.
Hmm, upgrade you.

1567
01:28:52,100 --> 01:28:53,200
There you go.
Thank you.

1568
01:28:53,300 --> 01:28:55,300
Thank you.
Thank you for your great grandpa

1569
01:28:55,300 --> 01:28:57,700
for leaving me this land so I
can sell it and then upgrade my

1570
01:28:57,700 --> 01:28:58,500
land.
Thank you.

1571
01:28:58,900 --> 01:29:03,400
So actually, I understand.
Yeah, so some refused to leave

1572
01:29:03,400 --> 01:29:08,300
their homes, of course, and some
even filed civil action suits

1573
01:29:08,300 --> 01:29:10,800
against the government as
happens.

1574
01:29:11,500 --> 01:29:17,300
So I wrote this as a side note,
they had to move it was 50s

1575
01:29:17,300 --> 01:29:22,700
families that needed to be
relocated and we honed okay?

1576
01:29:23,400 --> 01:29:25,700
I forget how many businesses are
like 17 businesses.

1577
01:29:25,700 --> 01:29:28,200
I think about that around the
whole town.

1578
01:29:28,200 --> 01:29:30,400
That's a whole freaking Town.
Yeah.

1579
01:29:31,900 --> 01:29:37,000
Um so some people were even
removed from their land by

1580
01:29:37,000 --> 01:29:39,500
force.
I knew it and their lands

1581
01:29:39,500 --> 01:29:40,900
seized.
Dang it.

1582
01:29:41,200 --> 01:29:45,300
No, for the people who said
their land whoo-hoo Soldier

1583
01:29:45,300 --> 01:29:50,600
land, Sing that kind of money
before so there is like, yeah,

1584
01:29:50,600 --> 01:29:52,400
do it.
I can buy better land for less

1585
01:29:52,400 --> 01:29:55,800
money somewhere, right?
Oh, that's where I wrote my

1586
01:29:55,800 --> 01:29:58,400
grandparents.
My ancestors would be proud of

1587
01:29:58,400 --> 01:29:59,800
me.
That's right, agree.

1588
01:29:59,800 --> 01:30:04,400
Absolutely, either way, the
cleared, all the land of people

1589
01:30:04,400 --> 01:30:06,700
in started filling the area with
water.

1590
01:30:06,800 --> 01:30:12,200
Now, of course any building that
was made out of wood, of course,

1591
01:30:12,200 --> 01:30:13,900
since it was since it would
Float.

1592
01:30:13,900 --> 01:30:19,600
By the way, what they just saw.
Filling it, they don't know.

1593
01:30:38,000 --> 01:30:40,700
So there's still like, buildings
down there that were made out of

1594
01:30:40,700 --> 01:30:42,800
concrete and, you know, Stone
and shit.

1595
01:30:43,500 --> 01:30:45,700
There's a heaven, Atlantis.
At the bottom of the year.

1596
01:30:45,700 --> 01:30:51,100
It's an underwater town, weird
or area City or whatever you

1597
01:30:51,100 --> 01:30:53,000
want to call it.
That's weird.

1598
01:30:53,600 --> 01:30:57,300
Yeah.
Where's that?

1599
01:30:57,600 --> 01:31:03,300
Okay, March 1st 1950, they began
the construction of the dam and

1600
01:31:03,300 --> 01:31:05,300
it took six years from the
complete the dam.

1601
01:31:06,000 --> 01:31:09,400
And after that, 1956 is when the
is the year that they started

1602
01:31:09,400 --> 01:31:14,700
filling up the area with water,
they fill the valleys and it

1603
01:31:14,700 --> 01:31:16,700
took about three to five years,
okay?

1604
01:31:16,700 --> 01:31:20,400
From the film.
So after, you know, after that,

1605
01:31:20,400 --> 01:31:24,800
it's Phil, you gotta like now ye
right where no one can is living

1606
01:31:24,800 --> 01:31:26,900
around it.
Can I build some land around the

1607
01:31:26,900 --> 01:31:29,700
lake or a probably not?
I don't think so.

1608
01:31:30,100 --> 01:31:33,400
Okay, like it wasn't made for
people to live around is just

1609
01:31:33,400 --> 01:31:35,500
made for like that's really
exactly.

1610
01:31:36,600 --> 01:31:37,700
So, it's not even a pretty
place.

1611
01:31:37,700 --> 01:31:40,800
Like, I'd be like, okay, you
baby this money for my land?

1612
01:31:40,800 --> 01:31:42,300
Can I have like a beachfront
property?

1613
01:31:42,300 --> 01:31:45,900
Actually, a lot of people visit
her, like, every year, a lot of

1614
01:31:45,907 --> 01:31:48,400
people visitor, but it's not
like a, it's not supposed to

1615
01:31:48,400 --> 01:31:52,400
happen as soon as you leave.
I'm going to Google and see if

1616
01:31:52,400 --> 01:31:54,800
people have done deep sea diving
and like her near.

1617
01:31:54,800 --> 01:31:57,500
Yeah.
To look at these property, like

1618
01:31:57,500 --> 01:32:00,300
these stuff underground.
Yeah, they really, that looks

1619
01:32:00,300 --> 01:32:03,400
that sounds super interesting.
The picture I'm terrified of

1620
01:32:03,400 --> 01:32:06,300
deep-sea diving myself because
the idea of seeing corpse body,

1621
01:32:06,400 --> 01:32:09,100
Uh, yeah.
But underwater pictures like

1622
01:32:09,100 --> 01:32:11,100
that.
Like the old building stuff.

1623
01:32:11,100 --> 01:32:13,000
Yeah.
Like it's pretty cool looking.

1624
01:32:13,300 --> 01:32:16,000
He lets me to put on another one
of those breathing apparatus

1625
01:32:16,000 --> 01:32:17,700
has.
I'm not going to do that once.

1626
01:32:18,700 --> 01:32:22,100
Never again.
So we're going to get into the

1627
01:32:22,100 --> 01:32:25,000
spooky section of the case of
the this is a lot of interesting

1628
01:32:25,000 --> 01:32:29,200
history honestly.
Yeah so this is the the curse.

1629
01:32:29,300 --> 01:32:32,900
Okay of Lake Lanier turn it up
for week 23.

1630
01:32:34,000 --> 01:32:43,200
Yeah.
So from goodness 1998, 29 32

1631
01:32:43,200 --> 01:32:50,500
2018 there were 57 boating.
Fatalities that took place and

1632
01:32:50,500 --> 01:32:52,800
100 people were supposed to go
there to like goof off.

1633
01:32:52,800 --> 01:32:56,900
I told you they like the
government says, it's not a

1634
01:32:56,900 --> 01:32:59,400
tourist place, you're not
supposed to go there, but people

1635
01:32:59,400 --> 01:33:00,600
just visit.
Okay.

1636
01:33:00,600 --> 01:33:03,400
They just like to have a whole.
You see pictures like Lake

1637
01:33:03,400 --> 01:33:06,600
Michigan bad, I'm not sure.
Cause, like, like, was it like

1638
01:33:06,600 --> 01:33:09,400
Superior Lake superior's?
The one that's like so cold.

1639
01:33:09,400 --> 01:33:12,200
That if you dispose a body of
it, there it won't float to the

1640
01:33:12,200 --> 01:33:14,200
surface because it will never
grow the bacteria.

1641
01:33:14,200 --> 01:33:16,900
Need to float.
No, it's not like that.

1642
01:33:16,900 --> 01:33:17,800
Not that bad.
Okay.

1643
01:33:17,800 --> 01:33:19,100
It's not like because it's in
Georgia.

1644
01:33:19,100 --> 01:33:20,000
So yeah.
True.

1645
01:33:20,000 --> 01:33:21,600
George is a little warmer than
up north.

1646
01:33:22,200 --> 01:33:24,600
It's yeah, it's the State of
Florida so he is always going to

1647
01:33:24,600 --> 01:33:26,600
be fucking warm.
Didn't know what snow is?

1648
01:33:27,000 --> 01:33:28,200
Yeah.
Like never that way neither is

1649
01:33:28,200 --> 01:33:30,600
still in Atlanta and there's
like this much snow and people

1650
01:33:30,600 --> 01:33:34,100
abandon their cars on the road.
It was like 2 inches of snow,

1651
01:33:34,100 --> 01:33:36,500
I'm sorry.
Georgia people, we don't laugh a

1652
01:33:36,500 --> 01:33:39,000
terrified.
We don't laugh at you because

1653
01:33:39,000 --> 01:33:41,800
you don't like those kind of
laughs in us getting like three

1654
01:33:41,800 --> 01:33:44,400
feet in one day this year.
And I got to go to school and

1655
01:33:44,400 --> 01:33:45,500
work.
Oh my God.

1656
01:33:45,700 --> 01:33:48,700
But basically pick me up in his
firefighter.

1657
01:33:49,000 --> 01:33:53,200
Yeah, that's how bad the snow
was, but like places, like, in

1658
01:33:53,200 --> 01:33:57,100
Georgia or Texas like Texas this
year, they had that snowstorm

1659
01:33:57,100 --> 01:33:59,200
like, that was terrible.
Yeah.

1660
01:33:59,700 --> 01:34:01,500
Everything was freezing and
people were dying.

1661
01:34:01,500 --> 01:34:03,700
Yeah.
It fucking terrible and like,

1662
01:34:03,800 --> 01:34:07,300
places, like that didn't have,
like, the stuff set up like us

1663
01:34:07,300 --> 01:34:10,700
up north, you know, we're like,
snow looks like we probably

1664
01:34:10,700 --> 01:34:14,400
don't have a lot of well, when
the power went out that one time

1665
01:34:14,400 --> 01:34:15,500
ever, we were kids.
Yeah.

1666
01:34:15,600 --> 01:34:18,300
Yeah, and like, it's that
Eastern Seaboard.

1667
01:34:19,600 --> 01:34:21,000
I thought we were children.
When that happened.

1668
01:34:22,300 --> 01:34:23,900
How old was I?
When I don't know.

1669
01:34:23,900 --> 01:34:31,700
I'm not glad we're children.
There you go.

1670
01:34:33,000 --> 01:34:37,200
Oh goodness, okay so oh,
wonderful, 25.

1671
01:34:37,200 --> 01:34:40,000
People drowned between that.
Okay.

1672
01:34:40,000 --> 01:34:41,900
And the last like 50 years,
okay?

1673
01:34:42,600 --> 01:34:44,600
I think it's probably worth the
beach but then again, you a

1674
01:34:44,600 --> 01:34:46,200
supposed to be here.
Hold on.

1675
01:34:46,200 --> 01:34:53,100
I didn't get to the big numbers
yet 2015, to 2018.

1676
01:34:53,300 --> 01:34:59,300
There were 43 Lake related,
deaths, and 1228 boating

1677
01:34:59,300 --> 01:35:02,200
accidents, not fatalities, which
accident accident.

1678
01:35:02,600 --> 01:35:08,100
These people didn't die.
So there are an unusually high

1679
01:35:08,500 --> 01:35:14,100
amount of deaths from the lake.
There are an estimated amount of

1680
01:35:14,100 --> 01:35:19,400
675 deaths per year.
No, since the like was

1681
01:35:19,400 --> 01:35:21,600
completed.
So since nineteen that's

1682
01:35:21,600 --> 01:35:25,200
unusually high, I think, I think
I assumed wherever there was

1683
01:35:25,200 --> 01:35:26,900
water.
People were doing stupid stuff

1684
01:35:26,900 --> 01:35:29,000
and dying.
Yeah, but not probably not as

1685
01:35:29,000 --> 01:35:33,600
much as this, okay?
So is this like haunted or

1686
01:35:33,600 --> 01:35:37,500
cursed?
So, there have been reports of

1687
01:35:37,500 --> 01:35:45,900
people just Just um standing and
they could be staining like at

1688
01:35:45,900 --> 01:35:48,800
the shore and then they can take
a step and then they just

1689
01:35:48,800 --> 01:35:51,800
fucking like it.
That's how dangerous this lake

1690
01:35:51,800 --> 01:35:54,500
is.
Oh, oh, I've been in stuff.

1691
01:35:54,500 --> 01:35:56,800
Like I find that very
unsettling.

1692
01:35:56,800 --> 01:35:59,700
Yeah, like is I've been to
Coastal beaches even on the East

1693
01:35:59,700 --> 01:36:05,000
Coast where you can see where
the drop off is from the the

1694
01:36:05,000 --> 01:36:08,100
beach, like you can see there's
like a couple feet of like

1695
01:36:08,100 --> 01:36:10,800
safety and then all of a sudden
just draw and it's not even like

1696
01:36:10,800 --> 01:36:12,400
it's dropping down.
Fee.

1697
01:36:12,400 --> 01:36:16,400
No, but it's enough for me to be
very to feel very yes.

1698
01:36:16,500 --> 01:36:19,100
Yeah.
Like, I need to be able to touch

1699
01:36:19,100 --> 01:36:20,800
down with ease.
Yeah.

1700
01:36:20,800 --> 01:36:22,600
This like this is a man-made
lake.

1701
01:36:22,600 --> 01:36:23,900
It wasn't.
Well, that makes sense too.

1702
01:36:23,900 --> 01:36:27,900
Because like I'm sure it's
probably like the erosion.

1703
01:36:27,900 --> 01:36:31,400
Yeah, time, I don't know.
So, I'm just freaks me out

1704
01:36:31,400 --> 01:36:34,800
because I think about is, like
how there was Pangaea and how

1705
01:36:34,800 --> 01:36:38,500
the all the stuff fit together
at one point and that there's

1706
01:36:38,500 --> 01:36:41,700
little lines of like out where
they just drops off.

1707
01:36:41,800 --> 01:36:45,400
Off into like hundreds of feet.
Yeah and I just frightens the

1708
01:36:45,400 --> 01:36:50,300
crap out of me.
Oh you're telling so since it's

1709
01:36:50,300 --> 01:36:54,400
built over like the lake is
built over or above whatever.

1710
01:36:54,500 --> 01:36:56,900
It's built their churches
underneath of it.

1711
01:36:58,000 --> 01:37:00,600
I don't need to Lake and there's
like I said, cemeteries were

1712
01:37:00,600 --> 01:37:03,100
always Stone.
You're right forgot.

1713
01:37:03,100 --> 01:37:08,200
All about that churches
cemeteries like some a cemetery

1714
01:37:08,200 --> 01:37:12,200
and interpersonal cemeteries and
like I said before, They

1715
01:37:12,200 --> 01:37:14,800
actually removed all those body,
just the personal ones.

1716
01:37:14,800 --> 01:37:17,200
We don't know if all those
bodies were removed, I don't

1717
01:37:17,200 --> 01:37:20,500
even know if the main Cemetery,
all those bodies were removed

1718
01:37:20,600 --> 01:37:22,800
either.
So people were just swimming in

1719
01:37:22,800 --> 01:37:25,800
is Lake full of dead fucking
bodies.

1720
01:37:26,400 --> 01:37:28,700
I mean, and what we've talked
about that and yeah, this is

1721
01:37:28,700 --> 01:37:33,100
true, old bodies of water are
not pools, are places where

1722
01:37:33,100 --> 01:37:35,100
there are dead bodies, but this
is a lake.

1723
01:37:35,100 --> 01:37:37,600
The like, have you been in the
Atlantic Ocean?

1724
01:37:37,600 --> 01:37:40,000
Of course, that's what the
Titanic song, Final, a dead

1725
01:37:40,000 --> 01:37:42,700
body.
He's everywhere.

1726
01:37:42,700 --> 01:37:47,500
I'm just saying like, is it like
a smaller about a smaller body

1727
01:37:47,500 --> 01:37:50,100
of water, 50,000 Acres, or
whatever?

1728
01:37:50,100 --> 01:37:52,600
You said, earlier, I 46 be.
There we go.

1729
01:37:52,600 --> 01:37:55,600
I was close.
That's a lot of Acres of water.

1730
01:37:55,700 --> 01:37:58,700
Yeah, I would love to know how
many gallons of water and I'm

1731
01:37:58,700 --> 01:38:01,000
gonna google that later.
But you know what happens when

1732
01:38:01,000 --> 01:38:04,000
you go to over, or you desecrate
some barrier around.

1733
01:38:04,000 --> 01:38:05,000
Oh I sure.
Do know.

1734
01:38:05,000 --> 01:38:06,200
That's my favorite part of
watching.

1735
01:38:06,200 --> 01:38:08,500
Those shows.
Boom, haunted.

1736
01:38:08,600 --> 01:38:11,700
When somebody's like, yeah, I've
been seeing this weird like

1737
01:38:11,900 --> 01:38:15,000
Two-story figure just walking
around outside my house.

1738
01:38:15,000 --> 01:38:17,800
It's really creepy and the
ladies like dude, that's

1739
01:38:17,800 --> 01:38:23,100
definitely like an ancient being
that is stalking this land.

1740
01:38:23,100 --> 01:38:26,600
And it was, it was brought here
to protect the land from the

1741
01:38:27,000 --> 01:38:28,500
white people.
Yes.

1742
01:38:28,500 --> 01:38:30,900
During the time periods, when
the indigenous folks were

1743
01:38:30,900 --> 01:38:33,500
fighting against the white
people, you should probably just

1744
01:38:33,500 --> 01:38:34,100
leave.
Yeah.

1745
01:38:34,100 --> 01:38:37,200
Because you are white people.
So go you go listen.

1746
01:38:37,600 --> 01:38:40,600
If anybody like actual, like
medium, I respect.

1747
01:38:40,600 --> 01:38:43,000
It was like, you should just Go.
Yeah, I'm like.

1748
01:38:43,000 --> 01:38:43,700
Alright then.
Alright.

1749
01:38:43,900 --> 01:38:53,400
Alright, yes.
So, Kardashian now, is not the

1750
01:38:53,400 --> 01:38:57,600
time to buy a house, folks, so
apparently is a bridge over the

1751
01:38:57,600 --> 01:39:01,700
lake, our by the lake.
Um, so cars mysteriously fall

1752
01:39:01,700 --> 01:39:06,800
into the lake house, Walter
brydges, silly.

1753
01:39:06,800 --> 01:39:10,200
I have no idea.
There are mysteriously.

1754
01:39:10,200 --> 01:39:12,600
Like, I said, drownings, like,
people can Be saving a knee-high

1755
01:39:12,600 --> 01:39:16,900
water and then just drop the
fuck off and to nothingness.

1756
01:39:21,500 --> 01:39:23,800
And yeah I just want to see the
bridge.

1757
01:39:23,800 --> 01:39:25,800
That's what I'm looking for the
picture right now.

1758
01:39:25,900 --> 01:39:27,600
So I'm going to tell you this
story.

1759
01:39:27,600 --> 01:39:29,500
Is it lay near?
Yeah.

1760
01:39:29,600 --> 01:39:31,900
Well I've been here in Rainier
linear.

1761
01:39:32,300 --> 01:39:35,300
Linear my bad.
I spelled it wrong to and Google

1762
01:39:35,300 --> 01:39:38,500
and everything.
It's like three start.

1763
01:39:39,700 --> 01:39:43,400
Okay cute my God.
Yeah or Islands.

1764
01:39:43,400 --> 01:39:47,700
Yeah.
How house way?

1765
01:39:47,800 --> 01:39:49,100
Oh no.
You got to look at it.

1766
01:39:49,100 --> 01:39:51,500
You got to look at.
Like I had some maps pulled up,

1767
01:39:51,800 --> 01:39:54,500
like, of the whole area.
No way.

1768
01:39:54,500 --> 01:39:56,500
It's pretty crazy.
I'm literally looking at a

1769
01:39:56,500 --> 01:39:59,600
picture of gravestones
underwater.

1770
01:40:00,300 --> 01:40:02,300
Pretty fun crazy.
That's so disrespectful.

1771
01:40:02,600 --> 01:40:05,100
So, I'm gonna tell you the
story, okay?

1772
01:40:05,100 --> 01:40:10,500
Every case of a car going off of
the the bridge, I'm looking at

1773
01:40:10,508 --> 01:40:15,500
the bridges right now actually,
Okay, and 1958 the lake is

1774
01:40:15,500 --> 01:40:17,300
almost done.
Like I said it took three years

1775
01:40:17,300 --> 01:40:21,100
from 1956.
Also doesn't make any logical

1776
01:40:21,100 --> 01:40:24,100
sense.
Its mass its not.

1777
01:40:24,100 --> 01:40:27,100
Yeah well I think of a lake I
think of like a big circular

1778
01:40:27,100 --> 01:40:30,200
entity.
Yeah this is weird and has

1779
01:40:30,200 --> 01:40:33,900
branching paths.
It's a yes man.

1780
01:40:35,300 --> 01:40:37,700
Well I think of a man-made lake.
I don't you don't think it you

1781
01:40:37,700 --> 01:40:39,900
think of it being like uniform
type of thing?

1782
01:40:39,900 --> 01:40:42,500
Yeah, this this actually looks
very natural.

1783
01:40:42,500 --> 01:40:45,700
I Yeah, it was real, you're
probably changed over two years

1784
01:40:45,900 --> 01:40:49,200
Trail, you're right over the
last 50 years nature, takes

1785
01:40:49,200 --> 01:40:51,100
itself back when it wants to
this is true.

1786
01:40:51,100 --> 01:40:53,500
You write less what happened to
the car that just fell in the

1787
01:40:53,500 --> 01:40:55,600
water.
Okay, 1958 the lake is almost

1788
01:40:55,600 --> 01:40:58,900
done, I'm being filled two,
young women.

1789
01:40:59,300 --> 01:41:04,000
It's a Delia May Parker Young
and Susie Roberts.

1790
01:41:04,700 --> 01:41:10,100
They were crossing over Lumiere
bridge when some for some odd

1791
01:41:10,100 --> 01:41:12,600
reason, they lose control of the
car.

1792
01:41:12,700 --> 01:41:15,300
And end up in the lake.
Okay.

1793
01:41:15,800 --> 01:41:17,600
Did they survive?
No I didn't know that.

1794
01:41:17,800 --> 01:41:23,700
So search teams failed to find
remains from either of these

1795
01:41:23,700 --> 01:41:28,800
women and they filled a refined
the vehicle there Joe, okay?

1796
01:41:30,200 --> 01:41:36,300
The only indication of and is
happening was skid marks From

1797
01:41:36,300 --> 01:41:38,500
the car.
And then somebody was like, yo,

1798
01:41:38,500 --> 01:41:40,400
Susie, where you at?
We've been waiting for you.

1799
01:41:40,400 --> 01:41:44,000
Yeah, they make it home that
night, Artie Lange.

1800
01:41:44,900 --> 01:41:51,100
So 1959, a year later, fisherman
finds a body floating in the

1801
01:41:51,100 --> 01:41:55,800
lake but no one could have done.
If I this person that's because

1802
01:41:55,800 --> 01:42:01,800
of bloat and decomposition but
they had noted that there's a

1803
01:42:01,808 --> 01:42:05,700
body had no hands and was
missing some toes.

1804
01:42:07,000 --> 01:42:09,100
Are there animals in this Lake?
I'm not sure.

1805
01:42:09,100 --> 01:42:11,900
Probably probably.
They also sometimes when we

1806
01:42:11,900 --> 01:42:14,500
build our own year we build our
own ecosystems.

1807
01:42:14,500 --> 01:42:17,900
We will do that will be a year
where to take a year for that to

1808
01:42:17,900 --> 01:42:19,600
happen.
Like you were animal that your

1809
01:42:19,600 --> 01:42:23,000
hands off like easier than
weeks, really?

1810
01:42:23,100 --> 01:42:26,500
Yeah, like I said, nature claims
our bodies rather fast.

1811
01:42:27,500 --> 01:42:30,400
I mean, depending on how cold
the water is too, okay?

1812
01:42:32,000 --> 01:42:35,700
So 1990 about almost 30 years
later.

1813
01:42:36,500 --> 01:42:39,800
The lake is dredged up in
preparation for New, Pair

1814
01:42:39,800 --> 01:42:46,700
lawyers, for the bridge, where
they found where they find a

1815
01:42:46,700 --> 01:42:52,600
rusty car, nice.
The same one Delia and Susie

1816
01:42:52,600 --> 01:42:55,600
were driving.
Don't want medially enthusiasts

1817
01:42:55,600 --> 01:42:59,100
just very interesting.
So sorry, I'm so interested on

1818
01:42:59,100 --> 01:43:01,800
closer inspection.
They find the remains of Susie

1819
01:43:01,800 --> 01:43:08,700
Roberts and who, you know, her
bones were in a car before, she

1820
01:43:08,700 --> 01:43:09,800
drowned.
Right.

1821
01:43:11,000 --> 01:43:15,000
So leading officials to believe
that the no-handed body was of

1822
01:43:15,000 --> 01:43:21,900
Delia my issue with that is It's
one, all of the body.

1823
01:43:21,900 --> 01:43:27,500
Should have been bitten Nam Don.
Mmm, only no hands.

1824
01:43:27,500 --> 01:43:29,600
Only no hands and some toes were
missing.

1825
01:43:30,300 --> 01:43:32,000
No Hands.
Feels like a mob hit.

1826
01:43:32,000 --> 01:43:35,300
All right.
This will have no teeth.

1827
01:43:36,000 --> 01:43:39,500
This is as soon as I saw that,
the body had no hand and no

1828
01:43:39,500 --> 01:43:42,600
fingers or toes, I was like
this.

1829
01:43:42,600 --> 01:43:44,100
Where was that?
Georgia.

1830
01:43:44,500 --> 01:43:47,300
Hmm.
This could just be like a racial

1831
01:43:47,300 --> 01:43:48,100
thing.
Maybe.

1832
01:43:48,200 --> 01:43:50,900
Oh, no, that's what I was
thinking.

1833
01:43:50,900 --> 01:43:52,800
We're saying like oh, but if
they were by then it was.

1834
01:43:55,100 --> 01:43:56,900
Yeah, that's true.
Maybe I don't know.

1835
01:43:59,500 --> 01:44:08,000
Here we go. so after that, there
have been Apparition sightings

1836
01:44:09,700 --> 01:44:14,600
of a woman wearing a Blue Dress
walking up and down the bridge.

1837
01:44:16,200 --> 01:44:22,900
She's been singing having no
hands, ah, at all.

1838
01:44:23,000 --> 01:44:27,400
And apparently, Susie can be
seen Susie's at Apparition that

1839
01:44:27,400 --> 01:44:30,800
can be seen wandering.
The back roads of Route 53,

1840
01:44:31,000 --> 01:44:35,600
which heads across the bridge?
Yep, oh, Susie poor girl.

1841
01:44:36,000 --> 01:44:38,700
So, you know, this means I'm
going to have to go through like

1842
01:44:39,100 --> 01:44:42,000
Every season of Ghost Hunters to
see if they went down they

1843
01:44:42,000 --> 01:44:42,800
probably do.
You know?

1844
01:44:42,800 --> 01:44:45,100
They fucking did and Ghost
Adventures all of them.

1845
01:44:45,100 --> 01:44:46,500
I got to go see who's been down
there.

1846
01:44:46,500 --> 01:44:49,100
Exactly have I already watched
this and I didn't remember.

1847
01:44:49,200 --> 01:44:54,100
Probably I've so many ghost
shows in my brain that I clearly

1848
01:44:54,100 --> 01:44:56,200
may have forgotten.
The like the seems to

1849
01:44:56,200 --> 01:44:58,600
interesting for me to have never
heard of it before.

1850
01:44:58,600 --> 01:45:02,600
So I'm going to step away from
the the ghost did a paranormal

1851
01:45:02,600 --> 01:45:04,000
stuff for a second.
Okay.

1852
01:45:04,400 --> 01:45:07,200
And give you a little bit of
different history.

1853
01:45:07,700 --> 01:45:11,100
So I'd finish my research,
right?

1854
01:45:11,500 --> 01:45:14,600
I was talking to Terror today
about it, and I was telling her,

1855
01:45:14,600 --> 01:45:16,800
you know, well, it's covering
and she's like, oh, I've heard

1856
01:45:16,800 --> 01:45:19,300
about that.
And I'm like, okay, cool.

1857
01:45:19,300 --> 01:45:21,200
And she's like, yeah, it's been
over Tick Tock.

1858
01:45:21,200 --> 01:45:23,000
And I'm like, what the fuck
you're talking about?

1859
01:45:23,700 --> 01:45:27,500
And the irony, that the one
thing you search suddenly went

1860
01:45:27,500 --> 01:45:29,500
viral and Technology.
Yeah, I know.

1861
01:45:30,600 --> 01:45:33,300
Yeah, she's like yeah, a lot of
people talking about it and how

1862
01:45:34,300 --> 01:45:40,000
there was a racial cleansing
that happened and that's why

1863
01:45:40,000 --> 01:45:44,300
it's haunted.
Was this A Sundown town?

1864
01:45:44,800 --> 01:45:47,800
This was a Sundown County.
Yep.

1865
01:45:47,800 --> 01:45:51,600
Okay.
That's why some folks didn't get

1866
01:45:51,600 --> 01:45:53,800
no money.
So me being me.

1867
01:45:53,800 --> 01:45:58,000
I got, you know, I got look into
it so I just before I came over

1868
01:45:58,000 --> 01:45:59,300
here.
No, it's all there.

1869
01:45:59,300 --> 01:46:02,700
Yeah, I mean, The majority of
Sundown towns were actually in

1870
01:46:02,700 --> 01:46:04,800
the north, but there were
definitely enough in the South.

1871
01:46:04,800 --> 01:46:07,900
Yeah, that's the thing.
I like to remind people in

1872
01:46:07,907 --> 01:46:10,900
there, like, the north was
against slavery and blah, blah

1873
01:46:10,900 --> 01:46:13,500
blah.
Like the North had towns, that

1874
01:46:13,500 --> 01:46:16,900
would murder people if you
didn't get out before dust.

1875
01:46:16,900 --> 01:46:20,800
Okay, someday, but for now like,
yeah, if you want her way out

1876
01:46:20,800 --> 01:46:23,800
and outdated, that's why the,
the the blue book in the green

1877
01:46:23,800 --> 01:46:27,400
book were even created.
Yeah, as an almanac for

1878
01:46:27,400 --> 01:46:30,500
specifically black travelers to
know where it was.

1879
01:46:30,500 --> 01:46:35,000
Was safe for you to stay when
you were traveling across

1880
01:46:35,000 --> 01:46:36,800
America because of Sundown
towns.

1881
01:46:36,800 --> 01:46:40,000
So, I love it and I love
whenever it pops up in a pop

1882
01:46:40,000 --> 01:46:43,000
culture.
Yeah, happened with that HBO

1883
01:46:43,000 --> 01:46:44,100
show.
Lovecraft country.

1884
01:46:44,100 --> 01:46:46,400
Yeah, and it looks like it's
popping up.

1885
01:46:46,400 --> 01:46:48,100
Again, this is good.
This is a part of history that

1886
01:46:48,100 --> 01:46:50,700
we have conveniently forgotten
and fun fact for anybody

1887
01:46:50,700 --> 01:46:54,300
listening if you want to know
where he Sundown town is look

1888
01:46:54,300 --> 01:46:56,600
into your cities.
If you want to know that you're

1889
01:46:56,600 --> 01:46:58,400
living somewhere that used to be
a Sundown Town.

1890
01:46:58,800 --> 01:47:02,900
Look into your city census.
Go back, 100 years.

1891
01:47:03,100 --> 01:47:07,800
If all of a sudden, there are no
black people in your town, it

1892
01:47:07,800 --> 01:47:10,800
was a Sundown town.
You have to go back to like I

1893
01:47:10,800 --> 01:47:14,700
would say after slavery but
before the Civil Rights Movement

1894
01:47:14,700 --> 01:47:17,600
and look to see if there were
black people who live there and

1895
01:47:17,600 --> 01:47:19,000
suddenly none.
Yep.

1896
01:47:19,300 --> 01:47:22,500
High odds, that you were living
in a Sundown town or County.

1897
01:47:22,600 --> 01:47:24,900
Yeah.
Yeah, this is a whole fucking

1898
01:47:24,900 --> 01:47:26,400
County.
Wow.

1899
01:47:27,400 --> 01:47:30,700
So one town, that was absorbed,
by the way.

1900
01:47:30,900 --> 01:47:34,600
Lake was named Oscar Ville.
Now you can still find Oscar

1901
01:47:34,600 --> 01:47:38,200
bill on a map.
Old Oscar.

1902
01:47:38,200 --> 01:47:42,500
Bill you cannot because it's on
need to fucking like I want to I

1903
01:47:42,500 --> 01:47:45,800
know there's got to be a YouTube
video that's like an hour-long

1904
01:47:45,800 --> 01:47:49,100
of people just underwater
looking at this town and it's

1905
01:47:49,100 --> 01:47:50,300
going.
I'm going to do tonight.

1906
01:47:50,800 --> 01:47:53,100
First, I got to record a tick
tock and then I'm going to do

1907
01:47:53,100 --> 01:47:55,900
this.
This is how I'm going to go to

1908
01:47:55,900 --> 01:48:02,700
sleep tonight.
So Oscar Ville is located in

1909
01:48:02,900 --> 01:48:07,300
Forsyth County.
I have heard a Forsyth County

1910
01:48:07,300 --> 01:48:08,100
though.
Yeah.

1911
01:48:08,100 --> 01:48:13,200
It's a place where I guess Oprah
has gone and it was like an

1912
01:48:13,200 --> 01:48:15,600
interview that she did in all
the people in there were like,

1913
01:48:15,600 --> 01:48:16,600
yeah, we don't like black
people.

1914
01:48:16,600 --> 01:48:19,000
Living here are in our community
and stuff like that.

1915
01:48:19,300 --> 01:48:22,300
This is I forget when she did
his interview, but I remember

1916
01:48:22,300 --> 01:48:25,500
watching it.
I do I know Forsyth County.

1917
01:48:25,500 --> 01:48:34,000
It's a fo R Sy.
Th so yeah, this is Oscar Ville

1918
01:48:34,200 --> 01:48:39,700
was apparently reported as being
an agricultural Miracle because

1919
01:48:39,700 --> 01:48:44,300
the farmers had beat back boll,
weevils from their infant

1920
01:48:44,300 --> 01:48:49,900
station back in the day and for
the Farmland, I guess surviving

1921
01:48:49,900 --> 01:48:54,000
the Great Depression as well.
Mmm.

1922
01:48:55,400 --> 01:48:59,300
So, Oscar bills supposed to have
been.

1923
01:48:59,600 --> 01:49:01,200
I know I did my brain.
Why?

1924
01:49:01,700 --> 01:49:04,000
Because there's a news article
the other day, about police

1925
01:49:04,000 --> 01:49:08,100
shooting a man who called 911
asking for help down in Forsyth.

1926
01:49:08,300 --> 01:49:11,700
Oh, I was like, I know I just
hit my head recently, you know?

1927
01:49:12,200 --> 01:49:14,500
I think, yeah.
They called my mom for help and

1928
01:49:14,500 --> 01:49:16,700
they got shot.
I think this is the area.

1929
01:49:16,700 --> 01:49:20,400
Remember that one story.
I don't know if I did the story,

1930
01:49:20,400 --> 01:49:23,400
but it's like a one of our this
weekend True Crime.

1931
01:49:24,500 --> 01:49:28,800
Well, Brought up the woman who
had died at her friend's

1932
01:49:28,800 --> 01:49:31,100
birthday party or some shit like
that in Georgia.

1933
01:49:31,600 --> 01:49:33,300
I think that's around this area
too.

1934
01:49:33,600 --> 01:49:38,200
Okay, just happened.
That that happened but Oscar

1935
01:49:38,200 --> 01:49:42,900
bill is supposed to have been an
entire black community that was

1936
01:49:43,300 --> 01:49:45,600
basically just first out.
Yeah.

1937
01:49:45,700 --> 01:49:49,700
Force out of the area but you
didn't boll weevils came back.

1938
01:49:49,700 --> 01:49:53,600
Didn't they know?
It was those, those hooded?

1939
01:49:53,600 --> 01:49:55,800
Weevils, if you don't talk
About.

1940
01:49:58,800 --> 01:50:01,900
Um, Newport damn development
kept in touch with the court

1941
01:50:01,900 --> 01:50:07,600
system, to make sure that the
state could take the land from

1942
01:50:07,700 --> 01:50:13,900
these residents because they'd
ask every resident to give up

1943
01:50:13,900 --> 01:50:17,300
their land like to leave their
land without really paying and

1944
01:50:17,300 --> 01:50:21,300
stuff except for five residents.
That's it.

1945
01:50:21,800 --> 01:50:23,500
Everybody else there like you
gotta leave.

1946
01:50:23,500 --> 01:50:28,400
You gotta get out of here.
Now, there's this book,

1947
01:50:28,700 --> 01:50:32,800
including Oscar Ville, that's
titled blood at the root.

1948
01:50:32,800 --> 01:50:38,700
A racial cleansing in America,
where all Sir Patrick Phillips

1949
01:50:38,700 --> 01:50:44,300
talks about the 1912 lynchings
and the riots that followed the

1950
01:50:44,300 --> 01:50:49,400
sexual assault and murder of a
young white woman named sleepy.

1951
01:50:49,400 --> 01:50:51,400
Make fro that she was 18 years
old.

1952
01:50:52,300 --> 01:50:55,800
The accused a black teen of
committing the crime.

1953
01:50:55,900 --> 01:51:00,100
I'm but it's it's officially an
unsolved crime.

1954
01:51:02,100 --> 01:51:09,100
So, as a, as a result of this
around 11:00, black residents

1955
01:51:09,400 --> 01:51:14,700
with Oscar Ville and for sense
County out of fear of, you know,

1956
01:51:14,700 --> 01:51:20,900
for the lives.
So some of the ghosts there that

1957
01:51:20,900 --> 01:51:25,500
may or may not haunt the lake.
Of course, maybe some black

1958
01:51:25,500 --> 01:51:30,900
residents that my favorite
haunting is I love.

1959
01:51:31,100 --> 01:51:32,200
Slaves.
Haunt people.

1960
01:51:32,400 --> 01:51:34,500
Oh yeah.
And also lovely indigenous

1961
01:51:34,500 --> 01:51:38,100
people hunt, folks.
This is I like yes.

1962
01:51:38,100 --> 01:51:40,000
And I want people to move on to
the afterlife.

1963
01:51:40,000 --> 01:51:42,200
Sure.
If you gotta stay, you might as

1964
01:51:42,200 --> 01:51:47,200
well make folks lives miserable.
I mean yeah but also as want to

1965
01:51:47,200 --> 01:51:50,000
add this is like as dangerous as
fuck knows what.

1966
01:51:50,000 --> 01:51:53,300
Yeah.
Like, I've seen a picture of it,

1967
01:51:53,500 --> 01:51:56,900
when it was a drought when
there's a drought in Georgia and

1968
01:51:56,900 --> 01:51:59,400
they're like, little are a
little trees and Forest

1969
01:51:59,500 --> 01:52:02,800
underneath the fucking water.
Like they're dead trees and the

1970
01:52:02,800 --> 01:52:05,400
water.
So be careful if you're going

1971
01:52:05,400 --> 01:52:08,300
like, if you, if you visit there
then, you know, scariest videos

1972
01:52:08,300 --> 01:52:10,500
ever saw?
Was it what happened down in

1973
01:52:10,500 --> 01:52:12,200
like Louisiana?
And someone was just watching

1974
01:52:12,200 --> 01:52:15,200
and like, my thing is, when, you
know that the ground can do

1975
01:52:15,200 --> 01:52:18,100
this.
It's so like, their the cameras,

1976
01:52:18,100 --> 01:52:21,700
like watching this, like swampy
area and then all of a sudden,

1977
01:52:21,700 --> 01:52:27,300
you just hear a snap and trees
and land across from where this

1978
01:52:27,300 --> 01:52:30,900
person is like, videotaping,
just sing.

1979
01:52:31,000 --> 01:52:33,500
Into the water in front of them.
And I'm like, why are you still

1980
01:52:33,500 --> 01:52:36,400
there?
Hey, that is deaf.

1981
01:52:37,200 --> 01:52:39,600
Yeah, apparently it was an area
where there used to be a salt

1982
01:52:39,600 --> 01:52:43,200
mine and that salt, mine got
flooded, and it's still very

1983
01:52:43,200 --> 01:52:46,800
like unstable and the ground,
just sinks into the mine every

1984
01:52:46,800 --> 01:52:48,900
once in a while.
Some people go down there to

1985
01:52:48,900 --> 01:52:51,100
watch it and I'm like, this is
frightening.

1986
01:52:51,100 --> 01:52:53,700
This heart is like centrally.
Oh yeah.

1987
01:52:53,700 --> 01:52:57,100
Almost like kind of well and he
really was a coal mine.

1988
01:52:57,100 --> 01:52:58,400
Yeah.
But we got to steam coming up

1989
01:52:58,400 --> 01:53:00,500
out of the ground.
Ground is it like sinking into

1990
01:53:00,500 --> 01:53:02,300
Central?
You know, it's just fire.

1991
01:53:02,300 --> 01:53:05,900
There is a massive sinkhole in a
Mexican farm land right now that

1992
01:53:05,900 --> 01:53:07,800
is currently swallowed two
houses.

1993
01:53:07,800 --> 01:53:10,800
Oh yeah, it was in the news the
other day was look at this

1994
01:53:10,800 --> 01:53:12,200
sinkholes frightened me.
Yeah.

1995
01:53:12,200 --> 01:53:14,100
They're can talk about things
that we find scary.

1996
01:53:14,100 --> 01:53:17,300
Sinkholes are kind of, you know,
Riptides.

1997
01:53:18,100 --> 01:53:20,200
Yeah, just I have like a real
fear.

1998
01:53:20,200 --> 01:53:23,400
Like it's almost like an
unreasonable fear of Riptides,

1999
01:53:23,700 --> 01:53:25,500
huh?
I used to be afraid of quicksand

2000
01:53:25,500 --> 01:53:29,300
until I realized it was slow
sand in a quicksand is just

2001
01:53:29,300 --> 01:53:31,700
don't don't fight it.
Buddy pull you out.

2002
01:53:31,700 --> 01:53:33,500
Yeah basically just stand there
and wait.

2003
01:53:33,800 --> 01:53:35,500
We used to be afraid of
quicksand his kids.

2004
01:53:35,500 --> 01:53:38,900
That's what black holes.
I used to have an irrational

2005
01:53:38,900 --> 01:53:41,000
fear of black holes just a
little bit.

2006
01:53:41,000 --> 01:53:44,600
Yeah, it's unpredictable but
there is one thing that I wanted

2007
01:53:44,600 --> 01:53:47,700
to mention to anybody who still
listening because it's the end

2008
01:53:47,700 --> 01:53:50,000
of our show.
It is one.

2009
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Thanks for listening.
Like we did say, there's going

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to be patreon and one of our
tears is going to be an extra

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like we're going to call its own
little podcast, 30 minutes.

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What did you call it?
Conspiracy Crips conspiracy

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crept.
Yes, Brian named it, the

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conspiracy crap.
I'm sorry.

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Just a little bit on the Fly.
That's what is going to be

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called.
What's is going to be a

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30-minute additional extra
podcast of us, discussing that

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sort of stuff and I'm not
entirely opposed to the

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discussion of conspiracies, just
some of them.

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I find.
Just they make my like angry.

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They make me angry, but some of
them, I actually do have some

2022
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really good ones like, one of my
campers the other day came to me

2023
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and was just like You know, the
guy who landed on the moon.

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Oh, you told me about this?
Yeah, and I was just like, yeah.

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And he goes his name backwards
is alien.

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He's like we put an alien on the
moon.

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That's like, that's really cool.
That's really cute.

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He was very proud of him.
Probably he discovered the, the

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conspiracy than your Armstrong
is actually nailing a little kid

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sometimes, so cute.
Oh goodness.

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But yeah.
Well whoever patreon up and then

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we have multiple tiers one.
Just for folks who just want to

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help get a little bit of.
Yeah, give us a little push and

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we'll have mercury people who
want that.

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Yeah, they will have gaming
nights, right?

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That's one of the tiers patreon
is that once a month, we'll have

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a gaming night and you get to be
on stream with us and

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participate.
Yeah, it'll be fun and so, we'll

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probably have to Max that It out
at like, we'll have to cap.

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Yeah.
But like five people baby.

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Yeah.
With with garlic phone you can

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technically have a Lobby.
That's like 15 plus people.

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All right.
Go.

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Maybe we could do like 10 and
we'll see, we'll see, we'll see,

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we'll see what happens.
We'll see you, Steven,

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interested honest.
Yeah, I don't have.

2047
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You know what?
I got Champagne Dreams.

2048
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Just gonna we're gonna manage
your expectations and if anybody

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wants to support us, I'll be
shocked.

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Yeah, there you go.
We'll say to if anybody puts

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money, I appreciate you are like
1,500 people who are listening

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on it like weekly basis.
Thank you so much.

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This has been a really awesome
experience doing this.

2054
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Yes, for you all and it's
totally worthwhile even though I

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have resigned myself to write a
10-page research paper every

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week for the rest of my life.
Crazy or until we run out of

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people to talk about kill
people.

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But Stop.
I'm like, I'm not going to stop

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finding anything creepy to talk
about and you're probably not

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going to run out people killing
people.

2061
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That's true.
So as long as you want us, we're

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here basically.
Oh goodness.

2063
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And as always you can find
Brittany on takes AA.

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Cat caught podcast.
That's true always almost every

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single day of the week.
Yeah, you can find me on Twitch

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at Fox you trainer.
I'm not gonna change.

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The name is just going to stay
foxy trainer whatever just find

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me on Twitch.
I didn't stream last week.

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And because I was out of town
but this weekend I will be

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playing Doki-Doki Leisure Club.
All the new one came out and it

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was it's out on Wednesday.
Oh nice.

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So I'll be playing that.
This one's the pay one though,

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the first one was free.
So we'll see what happened.

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Considering at the end of the
first game, there was just

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Monaco serious game breaking
stuff that had to be done to

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save you from a character in the
game, you know?

2077
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Yeah.
Also, are we going to have to

2078
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kind of put that under like a
trigger warning of us stream

2079
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because this one had some
serious jerk.

2080
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I'm pretty sure it's gonna be
like the same amount of stuff.

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So, it's probably trigger
warning.

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What else?
You could always email us.

2083
01:57:45,400 --> 01:57:50,200
Your email us if you like this,
like the podcast or email us, if

2084
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you have any stories you want us
to read or research?

2085
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Absolutely.
We will look into that.

2086
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Yeah, you can email us at
podcast@biobalancehealth.com or

2087
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just head over to and Killers,
get caught.com which is our

2088
01:58:01,700 --> 01:58:04,600
official website that is we do
have a website and yeah you can

2089
01:58:04,600 --> 01:58:07,200
just email us there too and
check out our we have an art I

2090
01:58:07,200 --> 01:58:10,000
guess an archive of all our
episodes now, Oliver right?

2091
01:58:10,000 --> 01:58:10,900
Yep.
All restaurant.

2092
01:58:10,900 --> 01:58:13,700
And it also shows you every
single place that you can listen

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to it on the like right side of
the screen, it's pretty awesome.

2094
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I added my About Me section to
the website and Brian will do

2095
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that.
He was just gone so he couldn't.

2096
01:58:23,100 --> 01:58:28,300
Yeah, I'm sorry I just love to
do you were on the little kid

2097
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vacation that's it was There you
go.

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But, yeah, that's all we got for
this week.

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Yeah, thanks for listening.
Yeah, thanks.

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Have a good night.