Jan. 7, 2021

Episode 1: Dr.Marcel Petiot , The fake nazi killer of World War II

Episode 1: Dr.Marcel Petiot , The fake nazi killer of World War II
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Episode 1: Dr.Marcel Petiot , The fake nazi killer of World War II

Sources on Dr. Petiot
The Unspeakable Crimes of Dr. Petiot by Thomas Maeder
The Great Liquidator by John Grombach
Murder in France by Alister Kershaw
Death In the City of Light by David King

Welcome to our very first episode of When Killers Get Caught! For our first podcast we did a deep dive on a serial killer from France and we talk about a cursed car! You can also find us on TikTok @caughtpodcast and @creepswithbrian. Help us out by supporting the sponsors mentioned in this episode as well! Special thanks to Myuu for the music you heard on todays episode. You can find him at www.youtube.com/c/myuuji

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This week, we're talking about
news updates on America's most

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prolific serial killer then, dr.
Marcel Pho.

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The French real killer most
active during World War Two and

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then Brian will be doing.
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And in big news right now.

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America's most prolific serial
killer has died.

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Only a couple days ago.
Yeah that's one thing is covid.

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As of right now, they only know
that it's he died of something

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in the hospital on December
thirty, first, twenty twenty

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hours of December 30th 30th,
December 30th.

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If you don't know who this
person is, his name is Samuel

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little and he has 60.
The victims so far because

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they're still finding
connections to people.

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He murdered decades ago across
the country.

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Yes, he's actually cleaned it
killed 93.

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Yeah, and I guess that seems
like such a small number

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because, you know, we have our
Ted Bundy's and other people who

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claimed to have killed over 100
women but they claim, right?

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But they could never confirm
those people here.

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We I've actually been collecting
DNA DNA evidence over the years.

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And we know it was at least 60.
Ya gotta love those DNA kits.

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And the ones that never get
actually tested.

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Yes, I'm so jacked up but I
don't know what else to say

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about this guy.
He was a boxer and you were just

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telling me before we started
recording that he had a thing

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for neck behenna, he had a thing
for necks and early child.

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What do you do about that?
What are your child?

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I don't know.
Just keep him away from me.

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Yeah, I'm not entirely sure.
He got a thing for next.

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He also had a thing for
prostitutes.

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Those were the majority of his
victims people who he thought

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nobody was going to be looking
for.

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And since he was a boy, I guess
a boxer I guess we're saying.

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He was some kind of a celebrity.
I didn't really know anything

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about him.
Did you know he's arrested 26

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times in 11 states?
No, but what you did show me was

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the horrible ugly photos of the
women that he killed heat.

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They drew pictures of them.
In was in prison their horrific.

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I don't know.
I just saw him and I will have

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nightmares tonight.
If anybody's watching this on

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YouTube, I will definitely throw
up these photos on the YouTube

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video because they're horrible.
They're like, I don't know, some

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sort of abstract vision of
women.

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He wanted to kill exactly.
They're like children's crayon

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drawings of people who they
know, but not really.

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Apparently, he spent half his
life murdering People from 1970

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to 2005, which is wild because I
feel like I don't remember

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hearing about him.
I was only Just getting out of

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high school when this guy got.
Yeah.

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When he got caught and I was in
high school you're only here

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behind me you have else but yeah
apparently that's so far

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California's state corrections
have only said he just died from

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something in the hospital.
I was like, did he die from

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covid?
It has to be cool.

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What else?
I don't smoke quarters.

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You know, there's no social
justice.

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No, social distancing in prison?
No, not at all.

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One thing we do know is that he
did used to like knock out his

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victims like with a hard, like,
right hook before he strangled

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them, which means that there
weren't always obvious sign that

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the person had actually been
murdered, which is why we didn't

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know so many of them were You
know, and I guess the FBI

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finalized like in 2019 or that
many of his confessions were

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actually the truth, really?
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So my thought processes is, did
he really actually kill all 93?

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Then I mean that's a really
specific number.

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But I guess that's the biggest
thing.

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And he didn't even get arrested,
can't even get arrested for

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being a serial killer, you got a
rest of her being a for drugs?

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Yeah.
And they did a DNA test on him

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and that's why we need to do,
all these DNA tests Across

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America.
That's why 23andMe get the

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ancestry done.
Know, that is why I won't get

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the ancestry DNA, 23, anything
done?

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Because I don't like that.
The government can just take

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your DNA.
Okay, what a help.

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So I know that it's very
conspiracy, but Didn't like

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that.
The government will just request

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your DNA or something that
people they don't like that.

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Of course not.
I feel like your DNA, your body

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DNA should still be something
that you have to use a request.

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I feel like if I ever get caught
being a serial killer ever and

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it grew me doing my ancestry or
23andMe, oh, that's kind of

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cool.
Okay, whatever they're not

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there.
What we're going to do right now

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is we're going to move into the
main segment which is that

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tonight I'm going to be leading
you on a journey with we're

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going to learn about a Doctor by
the name of Marcel Peach.

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Oh and he is a friend to your
killer.

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He's also been called dr.
Satan and he was charged with

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27, murders, convicted of 26,
but he admitted to more than 60.

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The big thing that brought me to
this guy is the way that he was

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caught and the fact that he
insisted until his death that

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All of his victims were Germans
or German sympathizers.

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Okay, great.
So the thing is if he had

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actually done that if he and if
he had actually done that he

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would have been one of those
people we talked about in.

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All right, now he's not.
Yeah, look at this guy.

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He killed all these Nazis.
How cool glaze bastard shit.

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Yeah.
Like those three women who used

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to lure Nazis into the woods and
kill them like he would be one

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of those people but he's not,
he's not, but we're going to

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start with the beginning of his
life which is that he was born

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January, 17th 1897.
Evan and like most serial

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killers, he had a lot of
problems in his childhood.

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It starts out primary school.
He has a lot of trouble with

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violence, inappropriate sexual
behavior.

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And this one, this one was
really so good.

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He's 11 years old.
Okay.

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He brings his father's gun to
school.

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Propositions, another 11 year
old for sex and then shoots off

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the gun to tell her he's
serious.

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Yes, but that doesn't get him in
trouble.

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That is a teenager.
He begins, small crimes, theft

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destruction of property, that
sort of thing, he gets arrested,

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officially for the first time at
17 trying to rob a post office

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box.
So wait, I don't know why you

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would do that.
Did you see something?

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Like, I don't know.
Like, can you imagine trying to

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like steal from a blue post
office box in America?

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No, you can steal people's bills
and Christmas cards.

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I mean, it's all my bills if you
want to pay them, but either

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way, they recommend that he be
evaluated by a psychiatrist and

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this will not be the first time
this happened in this man's

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life.
Then.

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He's did, they determine he
suffering from some mental

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illness and they dropped the
charges we're in its 1940.

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Now, he actually gets expelled
so many times during his school

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career that they have to send
him to a special Academy in

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Paris and he graduates in 1915.
So despite B, all of this, he

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joined the French army and World
War One answering service,

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January 16th.
Now, during the Second Battle of

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n, he gets wounded and gassed.
And he begins to show the

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symptoms of what they called,
been a breakdown, which is

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post-traumatic stress disorder.
It's the spring of 1917, so they

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mentally assess him again, and
they said him in for treatment

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under psychological care.
He gets arrested for theft this

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time for stealing blankets
morphine wallets, photographs,

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and letters from other patients.
They dropped the charges after

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diagnosing him with something
called mental equilibrium,

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neurasthenia mental depression,
Melancholia, obsessions and

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phobias.
No, I had to look these up

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because I've never heard of
these diagnosis before I just

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like Melancholia, I know race.
So, neurasthenia is this old

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timey, medical condition where
pretty much, you just get

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headaches, fatigue, you're
irritable Disturbed.

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I feel like I have neurasthenia
like everybody.

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I don't know why, this was a
special term but the mental

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equilibrium is interesting.
Now, this is a real thing right

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now.
But back then what they

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considered mental, equilibrium
was a condition where your

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mental state and the environment
is off.

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So your brain is taking in
stimulation from the world

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around you, but you are not
interpreted, interpreting it

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correctly.
So, pretty much he was having

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some sort of delusions and then
Melancholia seems to be what we

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would.
All major depressive disorder,

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okay example it was just super
sadness is what they call it

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apparently Melancholia.
You have been diagnosed with

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super sadness.
I definitely have likewise

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likewise by Brendan.
Okay.

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So however being given six
different diagnosis, this does

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not stop you from being called
back during the war because they

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sent him to the front lines of
battle again in 1918.

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But this time, he's like, no,
I'm done and shoots himself in

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the foot.
Foot that's more everything.

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Okay, front lines.
Know how many peel some potatoes

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or something or write?
He could have done anything.

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He could have been a chef for
the war.

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He could have been a radio,
operator, know, something crazy

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guy, all crying.
Yeah.

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So he gets put in a different
regimens September and then they

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sent him for a psych evaluation
again this time they discharged

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him with a disability and in
fact on his military discharge

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papers, they recommend That he
be committed to an asylum.

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This point this man is like only
20 years old but instead no, no

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no, they did not admit him into
Asylum, they allowed him to join

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an accelerated education program
for veterans and here he becomes

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a doctor.
Okay.

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See this is your problem.
This is there.

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You have all these signs in
front of you and you just no,

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no, no.
Push them aside already hit.

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I know.
We've a lot of sides here, but

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we're not even at the craziest
part of the story yet.

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So after the war he gets his
credentials, he is now doctor

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and my son teach.
Oh, he moves to the new sir, Ian

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and 1921 and he gets a lot of
patience and he's considered to

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be a very Charming intelligent
trusted doctor.

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In reality though, he's pretty
corrupt and he's been purposely.

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Prescribing highly addictive
drugs to his patients, while

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secretly applying for medical
assistance for the patients, so

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he can get paid twice.
By both the government of France

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and his patients who are paying
out of pocket.

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He's also addicted to narcotics
himself at this point and has

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gained a reputation for petty
theft and Performing illegal

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abortions.
Mmm, so now we talked about what

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is thought to be his first
official murder.

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He has an affair with a
patient's teenage daughter in

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1926.
He's in his like late 20s.

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At this point, her name is
Louise Louise, Della VA and

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Louise disappears in the May of
1926.

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The neighbors report seeing
bucho put a very large trunk in

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his car.
Exactly.

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The same kind of Trumps that
they pull out of the Ian River.

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Just a few weeks later that just
so happens to be full of women's

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body parts.
So the neighbors report, this.

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Yeah, They did okay sweetie.
Okay.

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And the French police say that
it's a coincidence and Della

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Valle is officially logged as a
runaway.

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What?
No.

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Despite the Scandal he would run
for mayor and he wins after he

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hires someone to Heckle his
opponent during his speeches.

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So campaign interference.
Yep.

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Yep.
Yep.

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Campaign interference it is.
Oh my goodness.

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And he still want whatever.
That in 1928, he married your

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jet level ear, she's a 23 year,
old daughter of a wealthy

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landowner and they have a son
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Who's born in April of nineteen,
Twenty Eight, but if you think

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his time to see mayor who's
easy, aha, I was not.

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He's accused of killing and
stealing taxpayer money.

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He's accused of stealing oil
from the railroad apartment that

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one.
He actually got convicted for

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and sentenced to three months in
jail, but gets overturned in

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appeals.
This he gets a suspension as

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mayor for Month.
And he ends up staying there

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until 1931.
Now, despite the constant

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complaints of fact in the office
is Mayor, he wins a seat on the

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general counsel, which would
make him the youngest man to do.

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So, and we'll news story on
History, where he goes right

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back to government feeling.
He gets charged with stealing

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power from the city.
I don't even know how you do

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that.
Well, first, you get like a very

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long extension cord and you just
the city next city over just

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boy, you know who the energy
from them, I don't know.

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I'm like, will teach us not
paying the electric bills.

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Was he like cranking up the bill
that the city was probably a

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charging?
The building, having the money

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himself.
He seems like someone who was,

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you know, pretty into fraud.
So, I feel like this was right.

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A lot of embezzlement big issue
with kleptomania this man.

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But he gets fined for stealing
the power, and he loses, he's on

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his loses, his seat on the
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And this is what he decides.
You know, what I should do.

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I'm gonna move to Paris,
Okay, so here we are.

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It's Paris 1933.
He's only killed one person so

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far in his career.
This is not exactly serial

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killer Vibes.
He's been growing at his medical

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practice and on the surface he
is a doctor with an impeccable

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reputation.
A reputation that he used fake

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credentials to get But the
rumors start in Paris that he is

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making his patients addicts.
He's performing illegal

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abortions again.
So this goes on, for the next

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couple of years in 1936, he's
appointed to What's called the

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medicine.
They toss Seville, which is the

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person who has the authority to
write death, certificates in the

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town, I guess that would be the
equivalent of like are not

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medical examiner but the person
above that person is the medical

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examiner but it's the person
who's that has a the end.

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End of the chain decides
exactly.

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Like they write everything on
the death certificate in the

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corner.
Yes.

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Like the coroner's reports.
Yeah.

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That's kind of the job that he
would get at this point.

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He still can't keep his
kleptomania under control and

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he's arrested for both theft and
assaulting a police officer.

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But this time when he's about
evaluated, they say that he's

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insane, and they
institutionalize him for a year.

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This would be the first time, he
has been officially like

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institutionalized for a long
period of time first time.

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The suggested that it was years
ago, yeah they suggested it when

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he got out of the military and
when he was in the military,

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they kept them in for a couple
months but not enough.

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But he gets released and his
doctors are very unsure.

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Whether he stable enough to be
around Society, but that doesn't

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change the fact they let him
out.

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Anyway, He commits tax fraud
immediately and gets fine in

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charge for these crimes.
So by the time, Germany invades

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France in 1939, this guy has a
massive criminal record and a

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long list of psychiatric
diagnosis.

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And the thing is, when the
Germans first settle in France,

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he establishes himself as a
member of the resistance and

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he's actually doing like really
good things.

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He provides false medical
records and disability

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certificates for people who are
being forced into German labor

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camps.
So essentially Really, he's

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creating these documents to say,
like, oh, this person.

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Can't do hard labor, right?
Right.

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He's having them out a little
bit and the people who are

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workers, he treats them when
they come back from the camps.

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But he can't stop over
prescribing narcotics and he

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would get him convicted again in
1942, Jesus, fucking Christ,

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just stop, you're not there,
you're not good.

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You keep getting caught.
Yeah, stop it.

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After this, with the big
narcotics candle of 1942.

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He A new name.
He becomes dr.

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Eugene and sets up a false
Escape Network for resistance

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Fighters.
Now, this is kind of where I

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think this is probably the
scummiest thing I would say this

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man does.
So just kind of like in America

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during like slavery, times where
the Underground Railroad.

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This was kind of the same thing.
But for Jews and other people

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that the Gestapo were looking
for, they created these kinds of

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networks that were underground,
except he shows were all fake.

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He called it Fly talks and he
told these people that he was

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connected with the Argentinian
authorities and he could get

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people transported from France
to South America.

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And he didn't do this out of the
kindness of his heart, he

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charged 25,000 francs.
So I looked this up and it's

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about 28 thousand US dollars,
but that was in 1942 inflation,

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mix that over four hundred
thousand US dollars, that he was

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taking from people.
This was people's entire life

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savings just to get This the get
out of whatever it will see,

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essentially people were giving
their entire life savings with

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the opportunity to potentially,
get away from France and WWII,

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right?
Totally understandable.

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And I mean that, you know, I
would, I would probably be ones

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who bought into it and get
killed.

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Yeah, definitely.
Also he offered it to criminals

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to and other members of the
resistance, come on.

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But he had three accomplices
role for are admin pins, hard

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and Renee.
Gustavus.

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But it's nazan debt and their
main job was to go and find

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people and direct them to dr.
Eugene, so once you met the

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victims, he tell them that he
needed to get them inoculated in

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order to travel, but instead he
was injecting them with cyanide.

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He was still all their
valuables, collect their money

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and dispose of the bodies.
Now, this becomes a big business

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and he starts to spot disposing
them first, by throwing them in

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the scene River, but that
becomes too obvious.

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So he sets up a quick line
basement and his backyard, but

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that's not doing it fast enough.
So he starts trying to

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incinerate the bodies in the
fire when you call that.

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Oh my goodness.
It would be like a boiler room

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type situation and I'm not a
regular house with this is the

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40th so I can't exactly remember
what you put it.

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In.
But, he's incinerating.

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These people in his basement.
Oh, oh yeah, I wouldn't know

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what to call it.
I can't remember - yeah, like,

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in the furnace in his basement,
which is not logical at all,

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because a furnace does not get
hot enough to completely destroy

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a body.
Like bodies are cremated at

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2,000 to 3,000 degrees depending
on the size of the person.

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But listen, this is what he's
doing and this is all happening

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in this house that he bought in
1941.

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That's down the street, from the
Arc de Triomphe.

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Do you know what that is?
I have no idea.

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Okay, well if you go to Paris
right now, the Arc de Triomphe,

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is those beautiful giant arches.
Oh yes.

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One of the largest tourist,
attractions both then.

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And now you knew it it was by
looking at it because really

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beautiful arches.
That's our country homes and I

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didn't know me, it's one of the
biggest but it's one of the

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biggest tourist attractions in
all of France outside of Oh my

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gosh.
Yes the Eiffel Tower your big so

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silly.
Yeah, yeah but outside of the

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Louvre and the Eiffel Tower,
these are these are the places

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you go.
When you go to visit Paris for

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the first time.
So he's literally like a couple

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blocks away from the biggest
tourist attraction in his City

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burning bodies and dumping them
in the backyard.

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Oh my gosh, he's burning people.
He's burning people.

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Right bye.
Oh my goodness.

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Yes.
Yes, there are people just

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walking around just like, what's
that smell.

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Hmm.
Well, here's the thing, though,

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this didn't exactly go on as
long as he wanted it to our boy

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Marcel, really struggles with
keeping a low profile and it

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isn't long before the Gestapo
find out about him in this

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underground route.
Now, they assume the doctor is a

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member of the resistance and
they try and set up a sting

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operation.
And they force a prisoner, whose

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name is Ivan Dreyfuss to go to
the network and Dreyfuss just

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disappears.
I'm assuming he gets murdered by

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dr.
Kucho Ow, and they keep trying

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until someone actually makes it
through.

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And then they arrest for ye pins
hard and doesn't that.

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Now, after being tortured, they
tell the Gestapo that Eugene is

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actually dr.
Marcel bucho.

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And they pick him up too.
So, they decide here to release

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nazan that.
Because, I guess you must have

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been the one who turned first.
They keep the others and Peach.

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Oh, and his wife In prison for,
I believe eight months under

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suspicion of helping Jews
escape.

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And they keep asking them, you
know, who were the other members

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of the resistance, where are the
resistance camps?

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But these people don't know,
because they literally aren't

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working with the resistance.
It's all fake.

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Okay.
Look, let me break it down to

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you.
Okay?

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Look, listen.
It's big.

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They're like, we don't know
anyone from the resistance, you

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just don't know, just using this
to kill people.

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Okay, that's all we're doing.
There's still people.

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They finally all get released
January 1944.

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Now, two months later, March
11th, 1944 be shows, neighbors

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have had it up to here.
They've made local complaints,

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you know, the neighborhood,
watch, people talked about it,

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but finally, they're like, okay,
there's this horrible smell

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coming from this man's house and
giant, dark clouds of smoke are

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coming from the chimney.
I can only assume that he must

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have been burning.
The bodies may be in smaller

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pieces or in small amounts.
And maybe in this instance, he

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was doing too many at once
because kind of like when you

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burn a green Branch, it releases
a different sort of smoke,

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right?
Then something that's dry and

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brittle.
So this was giving off a

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different sort of smoke than
should normally be coming from a

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chimney.
So what you're saying is you

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should we just grind the body
cell.

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Maybe maybe then it would have
just been regular gray smoke but

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for some reason, this thick dark
black smoke is coming out of his

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chimney and people are worried,
so they call the police and the

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police are like, oh that's
probably a house fire.

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So they call the fireman who
walk into this guy's house and

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stumble across ten bodies.
In various states of

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decomposition, they find bodies
in the backyard and a quick lime

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pit.
And they also find body parts in

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canvas bags.
Then they find suitcases, and

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Property of some of his victims.
This is immediately

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international news and it's in
all of the papers reaching as

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far as Switzerland and Belgium,
The show goes into hiding.

447
00:25:26,100 --> 00:25:29,000
He tells his friends at the
Gestapo were after him for his

448
00:25:29,000 --> 00:25:31,500
work with the resistance.
Because he killed German

449
00:25:31,500 --> 00:25:36,100
informants, he and Pam.
Are you always lying?

450
00:25:37,200 --> 00:25:42,600
Oh my God, stop in Lyon.
I know I know he moves in one of

451
00:25:42,608 --> 00:25:45,700
his patients named.
George is redoubt and he lets

452
00:25:45,700 --> 00:25:49,500
his beard grow out and he begins
using many of the different

453
00:25:49,500 --> 00:25:53,500
aliases that he has during this
time but he settles on one.

454
00:25:54,000 --> 00:25:59,400
Henry, the Larry.
And those who feel, how was one

455
00:25:59,400 --> 00:26:04,800
a Larry?
Oh my gosh, what are you doing?

456
00:26:05,400 --> 00:26:10,300
Dad jokes, but he changed his
name to Henry, Valeri.

457
00:26:10,600 --> 00:26:12,800
He grows.
He grows up that mustache.

458
00:26:12,900 --> 00:26:16,300
And he joins What's called the
French's French forces of the

459
00:26:16,300 --> 00:26:21,500
interior, which are French
forces there, like slightly

460
00:26:21,500 --> 00:26:25,500
different than regular French
cops but regardless, he joins

461
00:26:25,500 --> 00:26:29,300
and he's immediately very good
at this job of being a cop and

462
00:26:29,300 --> 00:26:38,200
he rises to the rank of Captain.
Still quite quickly. so, That

463
00:26:38,200 --> 00:26:41,700
ball a newspaper called
resistance.

464
00:26:41,700 --> 00:26:45,800
Runs a story about dr.
Marcel, Pho, and accuses him of

465
00:26:45,800 --> 00:26:50,300
being a German collaborator,
Police begin searching for him

466
00:26:50,300 --> 00:26:55,400
again this time, very seriously
and they draft Captain Henry

467
00:26:55,400 --> 00:26:58,400
Valeri to find this dangerous
Fugitive.

468
00:26:59,500 --> 00:27:04,200
Now, the show's biggest mistake
here, in all of this, is that he

469
00:27:04,200 --> 00:27:08,200
sends his attorney.
A letter asking, the attorney to

470
00:27:08,200 --> 00:27:11,800
tell the public, that the
newspaper is full of lies.

471
00:27:13,600 --> 00:27:16,900
This alerts, the police to the
fact that the show is still in

472
00:27:16,900 --> 00:27:22,000
Paris.
Until then they thought that he

473
00:27:22,000 --> 00:27:28,900
had left town a month later,
October. 31st 1944.

474
00:27:29,200 --> 00:27:32,400
He is recognized, and arrested
in the Paris Metro which is

475
00:27:32,400 --> 00:27:36,100
their Subway on him.
He's got Thirty One Thousand

476
00:27:36,100 --> 00:27:40,300
francs, a pistol and 50
different sets of false

477
00:27:40,300 --> 00:27:43,900
identification.
I don't know if he was deciding

478
00:27:43,900 --> 00:27:47,300
to leave at this point, like he
was trying to just get because

479
00:27:47,300 --> 00:27:49,800
as we know, we said 28,000 was
about 400.

480
00:27:50,000 --> 00:27:52,300
The US Dollars.
Yeah, so we're talking about

481
00:27:52,300 --> 00:27:56,500
about 500k, he was ready to
bail, he was ready to leave.

482
00:27:56,600 --> 00:28:00,800
He was getting out there during,
I mean, at this point, they take

483
00:28:00,800 --> 00:28:04,300
them, they rip apart his house
and they find roughly the

484
00:28:04,300 --> 00:28:07,700
remains of about 26.
Different bodies, 2627.

485
00:28:07,700 --> 00:28:11,500
They're not quite sure if the
trial is a big deal.

486
00:28:11,500 --> 00:28:14,800
It's a huge spectacle and he
swears that he is a member of

487
00:28:14,800 --> 00:28:19,100
the resistance and that he only
ever killed enemies of France.

488
00:28:20,700 --> 00:28:25,400
He claims that he discovered the
bodies in his home after he was

489
00:28:25,400 --> 00:28:28,500
released from the Gestapo
because he was in prison with

490
00:28:28,500 --> 00:28:32,900
the Gestapo for eight months and
he is so he's like, listen just

491
00:28:32,900 --> 00:28:36,600
like you.
They must have been the other

492
00:28:36,600 --> 00:28:39,300
collaborators with me in the
resistance must have left these

493
00:28:39,300 --> 00:28:42,100
bodies in my house.
I mean, I let people stay there

494
00:28:42,400 --> 00:28:45,200
while I was gone.
I have no idea what he's buying

495
00:28:45,200 --> 00:28:48,800
came from officer, hmm.
But the police check and he

496
00:28:48,800 --> 00:28:50,300
actually doesn't have any
friends.

497
00:28:50,400 --> 00:28:53,600
In any of the major resistance
camps, some of the groups that

498
00:28:53,600 --> 00:28:56,400
he said he was a part of didn't
even exist.

499
00:28:57,500 --> 00:29:01,100
And coincidentally, when he
originally was interrogated, he

500
00:29:01,100 --> 00:29:05,300
admitted to killing 19, German
collaborators between 1940 and

501
00:29:05,300 --> 00:29:08,900
1945, but they decided to
actually charge him with the

502
00:29:08,900 --> 00:29:11,200
evidence.
They found when they had pretty

503
00:29:11,200 --> 00:29:13,700
much pulled apart of house.
And like I said, if you're

504
00:29:13,700 --> 00:29:16,200
watching Youtube, I am, there's
loads of pictures.

505
00:29:16,200 --> 00:29:19,000
I'm going to be throwing up here
right now, they ripped his house

506
00:29:19,000 --> 00:29:21,000
apart.
There's loads of photos of him,

507
00:29:21,000 --> 00:29:24,100
just like piles of stuff out in
the streets.

508
00:29:24,300 --> 00:29:26,500
Like they were, like, we're
going to pull it apart.

509
00:29:26,700 --> 00:29:29,200
I'm like that movie we watched
the other night where there was

510
00:29:29,200 --> 00:29:32,100
clearly a wall that need to be
ripped down because there were

511
00:29:32,100 --> 00:29:35,300
definitely body my God that wall
wasn't last night.

512
00:29:35,300 --> 00:29:38,400
Yes, yes.
There were clearly bodies behind

513
00:29:38,400 --> 00:29:40,000
that wall.
The French police were not

514
00:29:40,000 --> 00:29:42,100
having they were like, listen.
There could be bodies in this

515
00:29:42,100 --> 00:29:43,900
wall and we're going to break
them down.

516
00:29:44,300 --> 00:29:47,400
So ultimately they can only
determine 26.

517
00:29:47,400 --> 00:29:49,100
Different people from these
remains.

518
00:29:50,000 --> 00:29:55,800
He keeps saying that 19 were
part of the 65 enemies.

519
00:29:55,800 --> 00:29:59,900
He killed His lawyer tries, his
best to portray him as a

520
00:29:59,908 --> 00:30:03,000
resistance hero.
But the jury and the judge are

521
00:30:03,000 --> 00:30:06,600
just not impressed.
Probably, because P show decided

522
00:30:06,600 --> 00:30:09,000
to taunt the prosecution during
his trial.

523
00:30:10,400 --> 00:30:14,400
So not only is he like not
exactly the smartest but he's

524
00:30:14,400 --> 00:30:17,600
also real arrogant.
He is Pope that Barrel quicker

525
00:30:17,600 --> 00:30:20,300
like you're taking a good nap
and here's the best part about

526
00:30:20,300 --> 00:30:21,500
this.
Not only is he found guilty of

527
00:30:21,500 --> 00:30:25,300
murder for profit.
They also charged him with 135

528
00:30:25,300 --> 00:30:29,000
other crimes.
And he is sentenced to execution

529
00:30:29,000 --> 00:30:32,800
by way of the guillotine.
His last words on March 25th,

530
00:30:32,800 --> 00:30:37,300
1945 were gentlemen, I asked you
not to look, this will not be

531
00:30:37,300 --> 00:30:40,500
very pretty.
And this ends one of the most

532
00:30:40,500 --> 00:30:43,700
ridiculous and incredible
criminal careers I have ever

533
00:30:43,700 --> 00:30:49,000
read about in my entire life.
Nice, nice.

534
00:30:50,600 --> 00:30:53,200
Oh my goodness.
Every time I kept looking up

535
00:30:53,200 --> 00:30:56,800
information about this guy, it
was just that's what I said to

536
00:30:56,800 --> 00:30:59,600
you when I was telling you about
this, that there were so many

537
00:30:59,600 --> 00:31:03,700
opportunities in this person's
life to direct the sun different

538
00:31:03,800 --> 00:31:06,400
location to cut him off at the
pass.

539
00:31:06,500 --> 00:31:11,200
Like you could have stopped this
way before all this happened and

540
00:31:12,100 --> 00:31:16,100
let me just let this go and
there you go.

541
00:31:16,900 --> 00:31:20,100
Multiple people dead.
I mean even a situation with the

542
00:31:20,100 --> 00:31:23,900
teen girl who he was dating and
I have my feelings about how

543
00:31:23,900 --> 00:31:26,600
teenagers should not be dating
people in their mid-20s, but

544
00:31:26,600 --> 00:31:30,200
whatever, right.
And we're not gonna talk about

545
00:31:30,200 --> 00:31:36,500
that today, but just he puts a
trunk, it is car and the

546
00:31:36,500 --> 00:31:39,700
neighbors are like, hey, we saw
him with a trunk like that, one

547
00:31:39,700 --> 00:31:43,500
that you found in the river the
other day and the police just go

548
00:31:44,000 --> 00:31:46,500
nice.
It's a coincidence, us nothing.

549
00:31:46,700 --> 00:31:48,200
What yours?
You're crazy.

550
00:31:48,200 --> 00:31:51,800
What are you talking about?
And I find that overwhelmingly.

551
00:31:53,500 --> 00:31:58,200
I think these cases, especially
in the past, didn't get like we

552
00:31:58,200 --> 00:32:02,100
have so many unsolved cases and
so many situations like this

553
00:32:02,100 --> 00:32:06,400
because the police were just
like What you gonna do?

554
00:32:06,700 --> 00:32:11,000
I don't know, chime lady.
Oh yeah.

555
00:32:11,000 --> 00:32:14,000
Yes, we could spend hours
discussing the police in the

556
00:32:14,000 --> 00:32:17,800
jump and he Marie MC case and
how they just didn't do

557
00:32:17,800 --> 00:32:19,000
anything.
Yes.

558
00:32:19,200 --> 00:32:23,400
But knows that John Mulaney.
We need to that one then, one

559
00:32:23,400 --> 00:32:26,800
bit with the cops and it's like
detectives from like the 50's

560
00:32:27,100 --> 00:32:32,000
and he's like, and they're like,
oh, That's a probably as a

561
00:32:32,008 --> 00:32:34,400
puddle of blood girls, so a mop
that up.

562
00:32:34,700 --> 00:32:40,100
Anyway, back to my hunch, it's
really accurate.

563
00:32:40,100 --> 00:32:44,300
The belief in the past, just I
don't know what police work was

564
00:32:44,300 --> 00:32:47,900
back then.
I don't know, I can't tell ya.

565
00:32:48,300 --> 00:32:51,500
It was just I think it was just
drawing guard said boards.

566
00:32:51,700 --> 00:32:54,400
Oh yes, yes tea.
Yes, that lets you know and you

567
00:32:54,400 --> 00:32:58,100
have to okay from the pins, you
put in the board, you have to

568
00:32:58,100 --> 00:33:02,500
wrap a little yarn around it.
Then draw a connection to

569
00:33:02,500 --> 00:33:06,700
another spot.
That's exactly.

570
00:33:06,700 --> 00:33:09,200
What do you have an early day?
Let's go.

571
00:33:09,500 --> 00:33:13,500
All right.
So this next part of our podcast

572
00:33:13,500 --> 00:33:17,000
is part of the Creeps of Brian.
I think that's what we're

573
00:33:17,008 --> 00:33:18,000
calling it.
We're calling it.

574
00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:20,600
Something that's your at least
your Tick Tock name.

575
00:33:20,600 --> 00:33:21,900
There you go.
Creeps are Brian.

576
00:33:22,700 --> 00:33:29,900
Um goodness all you now, okay,
so today I'll be telling the

577
00:33:29,900 --> 00:33:37,800
story of jeans.
Dean in his car is, 550, Porsche

578
00:33:38,500 --> 00:33:41,200
Spyder little bastard.
This is a big deal.

579
00:33:41,200 --> 00:33:43,400
I think I've heard a little bit
about this in the past.

580
00:33:43,800 --> 00:33:46,600
I hope so.
I didn't certain people have it

581
00:33:46,600 --> 00:33:49,200
and bad things happen.
Every person who owned it, that

582
00:33:49,200 --> 00:33:50,500
some speculations.
Yes.

583
00:33:50,500 --> 00:33:52,300
Okay.
There are some claims on this.

584
00:33:52,700 --> 00:33:54,700
I'm ready, I'm ready, I'm ready
for this.

585
00:33:55,500 --> 00:33:58,600
All right, so for those of you
who don't know Jean who don't

586
00:33:58,600 --> 00:34:02,800
know who James E was he was an
American actor.

587
00:34:02,900 --> 00:34:04,900
His full name is James Byron
Dean.

588
00:34:05,700 --> 00:34:14,500
He was born February eat 1931
that day.

589
00:34:14,500 --> 00:34:18,000
Correct.
Oh okay.

590
00:34:18,000 --> 00:34:22,600
And Mary young Indiana.
But after the death of his

591
00:34:22,600 --> 00:34:25,199
mother, he had moved to
Fairmount Indiana.

592
00:34:26,300 --> 00:34:30,400
What's his on it?
Uncle Like I mentioned before,

593
00:34:30,400 --> 00:34:33,900
James Dean was an actor.
Some of those famous movies were

594
00:34:33,900 --> 00:34:37,400
Rebel Without a Cause East of
Eden and giant.

595
00:34:37,800 --> 00:34:42,300
He's well known as being like
one of the cultural icons teen

596
00:34:42,300 --> 00:34:43,500
heartthrob.
Oh yes.

597
00:34:43,699 --> 00:34:46,100
Like he paid.
He played that out in the fluffy

598
00:34:46,100 --> 00:34:48,199
hair and the stair.
Yes.

599
00:34:48,800 --> 00:34:49,800
What was it?
What was that?

600
00:34:49,800 --> 00:34:55,000
There's a name for like how like
the characters he played they

601
00:34:55,000 --> 00:34:58,300
were just like oh okay I got us
a bad guys wasn't Rebel Without

602
00:34:58,300 --> 00:35:02,400
a Cause like they were the bad
teen boy Rebels.

603
00:35:02,500 --> 00:35:07,100
So yeah he played like the teen
heartthrob he was a bad boy.

604
00:35:07,300 --> 00:35:10,100
Very much like Johnny Depp in
the beginning of his career with

605
00:35:10,100 --> 00:35:12,900
like crybaby.
Yes yeah definitely like this

606
00:35:12,900 --> 00:35:16,000
like bad Sullen teenage
heartthrob.

607
00:35:16,200 --> 00:35:19,400
Absolutely.
Let's see.

608
00:35:26,700 --> 00:35:31,600
So, Rebel radicals, in giant,
were both released after his

609
00:35:31,600 --> 00:35:33,700
death.
Oh oh wow, I didn't know that.

610
00:35:33,700 --> 00:35:35,300
Yes yes.
Yes, they were both released

611
00:35:35,300 --> 00:35:38,500
after his death.
That's like the big movie.

612
00:35:38,500 --> 00:35:41,000
He's known for which one?
Oh yeah.

613
00:35:41,000 --> 00:35:42,700
Definitely I think of him.
I think of that movie.

614
00:35:42,700 --> 00:35:45,300
The Giant came out after that 1
1956.

615
00:35:47,000 --> 00:35:48,400
Okay.
Well when did he die them?

616
00:35:48,500 --> 00:35:52,300
1955.
Okay, Dean became the first

617
00:35:52,300 --> 00:35:55,600
actor to receive a pose humorous
Boomers.

618
00:35:55,700 --> 00:36:01,800
As his humid heat posthumus,
it's posthumous Academy Award

619
00:36:01,800 --> 00:36:05,700
nomination for best actor, okay?
And remains of you do the only

620
00:36:05,700 --> 00:36:09,900
actor to receive to posthumus
acting nominations.

621
00:36:10,200 --> 00:36:13,300
Okay, did he win though?
Not sure.

622
00:36:13,300 --> 00:36:14,700
Probably not.
If it's not, if you didn't

623
00:36:14,700 --> 00:36:17,600
notice it in your reader know,
it did not come up that you just

624
00:36:17,600 --> 00:36:19,800
orders nomination.
Like yeah, you got nominated for

625
00:36:19,800 --> 00:36:22,700
Academy Award after he died but
I We're not gonna give it to

626
00:36:22,700 --> 00:36:25,000
him.
Yeah, I mean, he got nominated.

627
00:36:25,000 --> 00:36:26,700
That's, you know.
Especially all that matters.

628
00:36:30,900 --> 00:36:32,600
Just, like many people.
He had more than one

629
00:36:32,600 --> 00:36:35,900
passionately.
Okay, good and evil actor and

630
00:36:35,900 --> 00:36:39,600
well, I kind of an idea since
the car is were such a big deal

631
00:36:39,600 --> 00:36:41,400
here.
Was he a driver or racing?

632
00:36:41,400 --> 00:36:43,400
Yeah.
Yeah, he's passionate was going

633
00:36:43,400 --> 00:36:45,700
fast.
Like, Ricky Bobby, I go.

634
00:36:45,700 --> 00:36:47,500
Fast gotta go fast like Sonic
the Hedgehog.

635
00:36:47,500 --> 00:36:52,000
I was just about to say that
great movie.

636
00:36:53,000 --> 00:36:55,400
So he had a thing for Porsche
has won.

637
00:36:55,400 --> 00:36:59,100
His first course is was 356
super Speedster.

638
00:37:00,000 --> 00:37:01,800
I couldn't tell you what that
looks like, because I don't know

639
00:37:01,800 --> 00:37:04,600
cars but I'm here listening,
you're right.

640
00:37:04,600 --> 00:37:07,900
So I don't know a lot about cars
but I know like it was a Porsche

641
00:37:08,100 --> 00:37:09,900
and it has the word super
Speedster.

642
00:37:09,900 --> 00:37:12,200
It, it must be good.
It must be good.

643
00:37:12,300 --> 00:37:14,600
Must be fast.
It's a, it's the kind of car

644
00:37:14,600 --> 00:37:17,500
that are really like, well-known
Hollywood actor can buy right?

645
00:37:17,500 --> 00:37:20,800
Yeah, that's what you know,
gotta go fast.

646
00:37:21,300 --> 00:37:26,100
So he had a tenant racing events
before and after rubber Eva

647
00:37:26,100 --> 00:37:30,600
calls having success in his
races, with the super Speedster.

648
00:37:31,100 --> 00:37:35,000
He sees another Porsche.
This would be would be his 1955.

649
00:37:35,000 --> 00:37:40,100
Porsche. 550 spider that he
named little bastard.

650
00:37:40,100 --> 00:37:42,300
Okay.
So this is the car that everyone

651
00:37:42,300 --> 00:37:45,400
wanted.
Yes, is he be EA?

652
00:37:45,600 --> 00:37:49,700
You difficult?
Oh, oh, okay, it's fucked.

653
00:37:50,400 --> 00:37:52,100
Okay, let me look it up.
I want to see the little

654
00:37:52,100 --> 00:37:54,200
bastard.
I'm into old cars.

655
00:37:54,500 --> 00:37:57,400
Like I'm not, I don't know a lot
about cars, but like I said,

656
00:37:57,700 --> 00:38:01,100
when I see an old car, I'm just
like, okay, okay, I get it, I

657
00:38:01,100 --> 00:38:02,600
get it.
Yeah, when I see cars like

658
00:38:02,600 --> 00:38:04,900
Downs, like, ooh, my heart
thinks it's cute.

659
00:38:04,900 --> 00:38:06,900
This is a cute car.
Like I said, if you're watching

660
00:38:06,900 --> 00:38:09,400
on YouTube, we will put up all
of these cars that Rider

661
00:38:09,400 --> 00:38:11,800
mentioning because some of us
don't know, cars like that.

662
00:38:14,000 --> 00:38:18,000
So he enters Salinas, the
Salinas Road Race, which was

663
00:38:18,000 --> 00:38:20,900
scattered on October 1st.
I said California.

664
00:38:21,000 --> 00:38:25,300
So yes to the second which he
unfortunately, we're not make

665
00:38:27,400 --> 00:38:29,900
Also, he didn't die in a race.
You do not Diner.

666
00:38:29,900 --> 00:38:33,300
He's okay.
Ha ha ha, ha ha ha.

667
00:38:33,400 --> 00:38:35,800
I don't know what about this?
So I'm here for it.

668
00:38:36,100 --> 00:38:37,300
All right, so now we get to that
part.

669
00:38:37,700 --> 00:38:42,900
So on September 30th 1955 as
he's on his way to the event.

670
00:38:43,000 --> 00:38:46,600
What is done is done?
Queer coordinator, Bill Hickman,

671
00:38:47,900 --> 00:38:51,000
he's the photographer for
coners.

672
00:38:51,700 --> 00:38:56,600
It's a national Illustrated.
Magazine name is Sanford.

673
00:38:56,700 --> 00:38:59,700
Roth.
He's a, he's a photographer and

674
00:38:59,900 --> 00:39:03,500
the German mechanic behind Dean
spider things Roth.

675
00:39:05,700 --> 00:39:08,400
Worcester Rich German names are
very hard.

676
00:39:08,400 --> 00:39:11,300
Yes, I can I get that?
Okay, I apologize if I got that

677
00:39:11,300 --> 00:39:13,100
wrong.
I'm pretty sure I did a German

678
00:39:13,100 --> 00:39:14,000
family.
Let us know.

679
00:39:15,800 --> 00:39:22,800
He hopes so Dean was driving
little bastards breaking in

680
00:39:24,700 --> 00:39:28,100
based on rules so so it was a
new car.

681
00:39:28,100 --> 00:39:31,200
It was a new car.
He bought it a week before the

682
00:39:31,200 --> 00:39:34,500
race.
That is like a party Foul.

683
00:39:34,600 --> 00:39:36,900
Yeah.
So you know he had a he had a

684
00:39:36,900 --> 00:39:40,700
breaking in with the rich who
was who was a mechanic on the

685
00:39:40,700 --> 00:39:43,000
car.
He hit his suggestion Sedin to

686
00:39:43,000 --> 00:39:44,700
breaking in, he'll just drive it
too.

687
00:39:44,900 --> 00:39:47,100
The race.
So you know it's it's you know,

688
00:39:48,000 --> 00:39:49,300
the gears turning.
Yeah.

689
00:39:49,300 --> 00:39:51,900
But I feel like if you're a
racer, you need to have a

690
00:39:51,908 --> 00:39:55,600
Mastery of your car, not like
just breaking a little bit.

691
00:39:55,600 --> 00:39:58,500
I mean it's a poor she's giving
a horse before you know.

692
00:39:58,500 --> 00:40:02,400
Listen I'm not really a huge
Nascar fan, but I have gone to a

693
00:40:02,400 --> 00:40:06,600
race before and I feel like
those people have, not only

694
00:40:06,600 --> 00:40:08,400
gotten their cars a week before
the race.

695
00:40:08,500 --> 00:40:10,100
This is true.
They do.

696
00:40:10,100 --> 00:40:12,400
They do practice.
Thank you.

697
00:40:12,600 --> 00:40:16,800
Thank you.
So maybe this is this is like a

698
00:40:16,800 --> 00:40:19,500
NASCAR kind of raised at their
you're doing.

699
00:40:19,500 --> 00:40:22,800
Yeah, I don't exactly know what
sort of racing you were doing in

700
00:40:22,800 --> 00:40:25,800
these sort of cars, either.
This looks like a luxury

701
00:40:25,800 --> 00:40:29,500
vehicle.
It's not but it's a, it's a like

702
00:40:29,500 --> 00:40:31,500
it's compared to his other
horse.

703
00:40:31,500 --> 00:40:34,000
This one's like the actual like
actual race car.

704
00:40:34,100 --> 00:40:36,600
Okay.
Okay, actual go fast, go fast.

705
00:40:37,900 --> 00:40:40,800
They didn't tell you why he
called it little bastard.

706
00:40:42,900 --> 00:40:47,400
Such an interesting name.
I know I just wonder.

707
00:40:47,900 --> 00:40:53,100
But yeah, this is okay.
So okay, so Dean James Dean and

708
00:40:53,100 --> 00:40:54,700
Musa Rich.
They were driving in little

709
00:40:54,700 --> 00:40:57,500
bastard, right?
And the other two were driving

710
00:40:57,500 --> 00:41:02,100
separately from it.
So early today at I think it's

711
00:41:02,400 --> 00:41:05,400
3:30 p.m.
Dean has gotten a speeding

712
00:41:05,400 --> 00:41:09,000
ticket on his while driving a
little bastard.

713
00:41:09,000 --> 00:41:10,200
Okay.
It was 3:30.

714
00:41:11,400 --> 00:41:13,900
So next part, wasn't that
surprising expert.

715
00:41:13,900 --> 00:41:15,200
That's coming up.
Isn't that surprising?

716
00:41:15,300 --> 00:41:20,300
Okay.
So, your crew was on her way to

717
00:41:20,300 --> 00:41:24,400
the event.
Going down, Route, 46.

718
00:41:25,200 --> 00:41:28,900
Another car was entering an
intersection in front of Dean

719
00:41:29,900 --> 00:41:31,700
pretty sure the car cut Dean
off.

720
00:41:31,700 --> 00:41:35,300
Like the cut record did not see
Dean coming right.

721
00:41:35,300 --> 00:41:40,300
Road, it was afford to door.
Okay, now if you look it up

722
00:41:40,500 --> 00:41:42,400
there's actually a nice car too.
Okay.

723
00:41:43,500 --> 00:41:46,800
Yeah, but that's the thing with
him, not being a well you know,

724
00:41:46,800 --> 00:41:50,900
seasoned racer.
So compared to the Ford the

725
00:41:50,900 --> 00:41:53,800
little bastard was a lot smaller
like closes underground.

726
00:41:53,800 --> 00:41:58,200
Yeah.
So I can tell you, I can see how

727
00:41:58,200 --> 00:42:02,900
the for didn't see the spider,
the spider coming up, but

728
00:42:03,200 --> 00:42:07,200
imagine being the person who
killed like James Dean, oh, you

729
00:42:07,200 --> 00:42:11,100
would feel so bad.
It's like it's like in in the

730
00:42:11,100 --> 00:42:14,300
other guys when Oh, what's his
name?

731
00:42:14,400 --> 00:42:19,700
Um, the Yankee Creek was, like,
Yankee Clipper, have you not

732
00:42:19,700 --> 00:42:21,500
seen?
Oh, goodness.

733
00:42:22,200 --> 00:42:24,900
Everybody who ever have seat has
seen the other guys.

734
00:42:24,900 --> 00:42:27,300
You know what I mean?
Like, it's like the Yankee

735
00:42:27,300 --> 00:42:30,300
Clipper.
Basically, like you, you shot

736
00:42:30,300 --> 00:42:33,200
Derek Jeter and his leg.
You ruined their season.

737
00:42:33,900 --> 00:42:42,200
Thanks a lot.
So, the drivers afford, his name

738
00:42:42,200 --> 00:42:44,800
was Donald turn up.
Turn up the seed.

739
00:42:46,900 --> 00:42:50,000
So Dean salsa for coming out in
front of them.

740
00:42:50,100 --> 00:42:52,700
So he started, he tried to slow
down a little bit until you

741
00:42:52,707 --> 00:42:56,200
start.
I'll explain it later but you

742
00:42:56,200 --> 00:42:57,700
try to slow down a little bit.
Okay.

743
00:42:59,900 --> 00:43:06,400
And he impacted with the
passenger side of the Ford and

744
00:43:06,400 --> 00:43:09,000
the spider was thrown across the
highway, so like bounce across

745
00:43:09,000 --> 00:43:11,900
the highway 80 across the pink.
Yeah.

746
00:43:13,500 --> 00:43:18,300
And we'll so rich.
He was thrown from the car and

747
00:43:18,300 --> 00:43:21,600
Dean was, unfortunately trapped
inside the car.

748
00:43:21,700 --> 00:43:23,900
Okay, he suffered from several
lifetimes.

749
00:43:24,000 --> 00:43:25,900
Threatening injuries including a
broken neck.

750
00:43:27,500 --> 00:43:29,300
Yeah, he made it to the
hospital.

751
00:43:30,900 --> 00:43:34,100
On the scene.
Okay, I didn't think one could

752
00:43:34,100 --> 00:43:36,800
survive through your neck
breaking outside of like a

753
00:43:36,808 --> 00:43:44,300
Grey's Anatomy.
So so as like you he was fading,

754
00:43:44,300 --> 00:43:48,600
he was fading about as I move
him into the ambulance so but

755
00:43:48,600 --> 00:43:52,400
they pronounced him DOA, okay?
When he died, while he was in

756
00:43:52,400 --> 00:43:56,000
the hospital, I think it was
like as soon as you hit the, you

757
00:43:56,000 --> 00:43:59,100
know that you never arrival when
he got to the hospital at the

758
00:43:59,100 --> 00:44:02,400
Apostle rolls warmer.
Memorial hospital and I was at

759
00:44:02,400 --> 00:44:03,600
6:20.
Yeah.

760
00:44:06,100 --> 00:44:10,200
Okay, so when do we get to the
death car situation?

761
00:44:10,200 --> 00:44:12,800
Most of it wasn't the with the
car being destroyed.

762
00:44:12,800 --> 00:44:16,200
How is it like this around?
So the car was basically told by

763
00:44:16,200 --> 00:44:17,500
the insurance company.
Okay?

764
00:44:17,500 --> 00:44:21,300
Children.
That then his thing is totally

765
00:44:21,300 --> 00:44:24,700
just means it'll cost more to
fix this car than the value of

766
00:44:24,700 --> 00:44:26,200
the car.
Yeah, it cost more than they're

767
00:44:26,200 --> 00:44:30,100
worth to fix that car.
So, what's the rich?

768
00:44:30,100 --> 00:44:34,200
He survived that car that crash.
He had like a double fractured

769
00:44:34,200 --> 00:44:37,800
jaw in a serious hip injury and
fewer injuries.

770
00:44:38,200 --> 00:44:42,400
Okay.
Turnupseed the driver before he

771
00:44:42,400 --> 00:44:47,100
only had minor injuries.
And now, this is a quote

772
00:44:47,100 --> 00:44:52,800
straight from Wiki.
It says, and request into d a

773
00:44:52,800 --> 00:44:56,000
request in the Deans death
occurred, three days at the

774
00:44:56,000 --> 00:45:00,600
council chambers and St.
Louis of this is Luis Obispo.

775
00:45:01,800 --> 00:45:03,400
Yeah, that that.
Okay.

776
00:45:04,900 --> 00:45:08,000
We're the sheriff Corners.
Jerry delivered a verdict that

777
00:45:08,000 --> 00:45:12,000
he was entirely at fault, due to
speeding that Turnipseed was

778
00:45:12,000 --> 00:45:17,300
innocent of any criminal act.
However, according to an article

779
00:45:17,300 --> 00:45:21,900
in the Los Angeles Times of
October, To level 5 a former

780
00:45:21,900 --> 00:45:24,600
California highway patrol
officer who had to be called to

781
00:45:24,600 --> 00:45:28,100
the scene.
His name is Ron Nils nilsen.

782
00:45:28,800 --> 00:45:34,800
Contradicted reports that Dean
had been traveling at 90 mph. 90

783
00:45:34,800 --> 00:45:38,200
miles per hours stating the
wreckage and a position of

784
00:45:38,200 --> 00:45:42,000
Dean's body indicated his speed
at the time of the accident was

785
00:45:42,000 --> 00:45:45,700
more like 55 mph.
So they're trying to blame him

786
00:45:45,700 --> 00:45:48,600
speeding based on a car that he
was driving.

787
00:45:48,600 --> 00:45:51,100
I think, okay?
But here's the thing.

788
00:45:51,100 --> 00:45:54,600
Okay, dialing back into that
thing with, NASCAR, the thing

789
00:45:54,600 --> 00:45:57,200
that I used to like about
watching those races is that

790
00:45:57,200 --> 00:45:58,800
there would be an accident,
right?

791
00:46:00,100 --> 00:46:02,400
It was makes me seem like, such
a terrible person but like,

792
00:46:02,400 --> 00:46:05,800
maybe one person was, like, hit
the wall or something.

793
00:46:06,000 --> 00:46:09,600
And then every other driver on
the road would avoid them.

794
00:46:09,800 --> 00:46:13,500
It was actually like masterful
driving and that's what being a

795
00:46:13,500 --> 00:46:18,000
skilled racer is like
incredible, crashes, things

796
00:46:18,000 --> 00:46:19,500
flipping all this stuff
happening.

797
00:46:19,500 --> 00:46:22,500
And Nobody's dead exactly.
Like, it's incredible but a

798
00:46:22,508 --> 00:46:25,400
person who doesn't know what
they're doing driving at 90

799
00:46:25,400 --> 00:46:27,800
miles per hour.
You're gonna kill somebody but

800
00:46:27,800 --> 00:46:29,200
he wasn't.
That's what was it?

801
00:46:29,300 --> 00:46:31,500
No, he wasn't.
That's what the the officer that

802
00:46:31,500 --> 00:46:35,100
came on the scene.
He waits be contradicted.

803
00:46:35,100 --> 00:46:37,400
The corner.
Oh, is he on a scene?

804
00:46:37,400 --> 00:46:39,200
He could tell how fast he was
going.

805
00:46:39,200 --> 00:46:39,800
Right?
Right.

806
00:46:39,800 --> 00:46:42,100
So he said he was going on.
You Brett mph.

807
00:46:42,100 --> 00:46:43,800
He's going like 55 mph.
Okay.

808
00:46:43,800 --> 00:46:46,800
That's so he has like, you could
tell he has slowed down because

809
00:46:46,800 --> 00:46:49,800
he sold the for coming out of
the road out in front.

810
00:46:49,900 --> 00:46:53,600
Of him and slow down enough.
Find 55 mph.

811
00:46:53,600 --> 00:46:57,300
I mean this still going like 60
on the highway, it's not that

812
00:46:57,400 --> 00:46:59,800
slow.
You need that 6, Carlos this is

813
00:46:59,800 --> 00:47:02,600
true.
Speaking of the one who doesn't

814
00:47:02,600 --> 00:47:07,200
have a driver's license So yeah.
So apparently he was trying to

815
00:47:07,207 --> 00:47:13,600
slow down, but Obviously he just
sold out enough to avoid

816
00:47:13,600 --> 00:47:15,400
crashing into the side of the
fort.

817
00:47:15,500 --> 00:47:19,500
All right, we have a crash.
So guys, tell me about little

818
00:47:19,500 --> 00:47:22,200
bastard.
Okay, so yeah, we're getting to

819
00:47:22,200 --> 00:47:24,500
the whole apart so we're getting
a little bastard.

820
00:47:24,500 --> 00:47:27,700
So, as a disclaimer, let me just
state that occurs a little

821
00:47:27,700 --> 00:47:31,000
bastard.
May just been made up by an

822
00:47:31,000 --> 00:47:37,800
attention-seeking individual.
He was Just just listen to this.

823
00:47:37,800 --> 00:47:40,100
Okay, we'll get to himself,
okay?

824
00:47:40,400 --> 00:47:46,000
So September 23rd, this is a
week before Dean's accident.

825
00:47:46,300 --> 00:47:49,800
Okay, he admitted with a Brutus
action, actor is a man's Alec

826
00:47:49,800 --> 00:47:54,600
Guinness Guinness was
superstitious person.

827
00:47:55,100 --> 00:47:58,300
He told Dean that the sports car
looks sinister.

828
00:47:59,700 --> 00:48:04,500
It looked exhausted hungry,
doing a little ill-tempered and

829
00:48:04,500 --> 00:48:07,700
spite of Dean's.
Kindness, that's how people talk

830
00:48:07,700 --> 00:48:09,600
about their cars, though.
Really.

831
00:48:09,800 --> 00:48:13,600
Yes, it's a little temper.
My one friend like talks about

832
00:48:13,600 --> 00:48:18,700
his car and my baby and it's
okay baby and I don't know.

833
00:48:18,700 --> 00:48:21,800
Car people are a little weird
like I'm here, but car people

834
00:48:21,800 --> 00:48:24,400
are their own kind of weird.
I'm so cold a little bit.

835
00:48:24,400 --> 00:48:26,800
I mean, are you a weird car
people look, I kind of say my

836
00:48:26,800 --> 00:48:30,200
car's.
My car is if he sometimes Mmm

837
00:48:31,100 --> 00:48:32,500
call hurt.
You caused it to her.

838
00:48:32,700 --> 00:48:35,600
It's a, it's a guy.
So, it's like, our, yes, a guy

839
00:48:35,600 --> 00:48:37,000
called.
I've been the guy, his name's

840
00:48:37,000 --> 00:48:39,300
Jamel.
Okay?

841
00:48:39,300 --> 00:48:45,000
So you are a car people.
Um, City, he, I heard myself

842
00:48:45,000 --> 00:48:47,400
saying in a voice.
I could hardly recognize as my

843
00:48:47,400 --> 00:48:49,700
own.
Please never get in it.

844
00:48:50,000 --> 00:48:52,700
If you get in that car will be
found dead in it.

845
00:48:52,800 --> 00:48:57,800
By this next, next time this
week So what happened next week?

846
00:48:58,100 --> 00:49:06,000
He died, he does but I'm pumped
So as after accident the car was

847
00:49:06,000 --> 00:49:09,300
considered a total loss by the
insurance company but it was

848
00:49:09,300 --> 00:49:13,500
sold by a salvage yard in
Burbank California to dr.

849
00:49:13,500 --> 00:49:17,000
William F and I cannot pronounce
his last name.

850
00:49:18,300 --> 00:49:24,900
I was going to try my best at
strauch are strict that stretch.

851
00:49:24,900 --> 00:49:26,500
Yeah.
Usually see it to the k sound

852
00:49:27,000 --> 00:49:28,400
that's rich.
Okay.

853
00:49:29,500 --> 00:49:32,300
So who at he had raced before
against Dean?

854
00:49:33,700 --> 00:49:36,600
So he had salvage parts of the
engine, okay?

855
00:49:36,600 --> 00:49:39,700
And put them in his Lotus IX,
race car.

856
00:49:40,300 --> 00:49:44,000
Another another driver used
parts a little faster as well as

857
00:49:44,008 --> 00:49:47,600
thing was trade McHenry.
Okay, so it was worth something.

858
00:49:47,600 --> 00:49:49,000
Yes.
Yes, the parts are required

859
00:49:49,000 --> 00:49:51,500
because you know, yourself would
some parts only wasn't

860
00:49:51,500 --> 00:49:55,000
completely unsavable I guess at
that point, okay?

861
00:49:56,500 --> 00:49:59,900
So after salvaging, what he
needed, he sold it.

862
00:50:00,500 --> 00:50:04,700
This is s Rich ostrich, okay?
That's rich.

863
00:50:05,200 --> 00:50:09,400
I sold the chassis of the little
bastard to an a man named George

864
00:50:09,400 --> 00:50:14,500
Barris.
Okay, who had customize, some of

865
00:50:14,508 --> 00:50:17,300
the cars that were in Rebel
Without a Cause.

866
00:50:17,300 --> 00:50:20,300
Okay, and he's also the
self-proclaimed king of

867
00:50:20,300 --> 00:50:22,200
customizers.
Oh okay.

868
00:50:22,500 --> 00:50:23,300
Yes.
Yes.

869
00:50:24,200 --> 00:50:28,600
So A Pimp My Ride, Kind of guy
basically, he's exhibit reckon

870
00:50:28,600 --> 00:50:32,300
50s, okay?
Or whoever it was that West

871
00:50:32,300 --> 00:50:33,300
Coast Customs.
Yeah.

872
00:50:33,300 --> 00:50:36,200
Oh my God.
Yeah, the guy who ran that thing

873
00:50:36,200 --> 00:50:37,700
that couldn't my ride was about.
Okay.

874
00:50:38,400 --> 00:50:43,000
So only incident that happened
that s Rich while using the

875
00:50:43,008 --> 00:50:47,600
parts from Dean's car, okay?
Was a minor shunt with another

876
00:50:47,600 --> 00:50:51,900
driver.
That was during the Hamona

877
00:50:51,900 --> 00:50:56,100
sports car races.
There's an October 21st 1956.

878
00:50:56,400 --> 00:51:01,200
Okay so unfortunately McHenry
who had also use parts of this

879
00:51:01,200 --> 00:51:06,200
car, he was using the back swing
arms, a little bastard.

880
00:51:06,200 --> 00:51:08,900
Okay I know you don't know about
cars.

881
00:51:08,900 --> 00:51:14,000
I'm guessing it'll back bumpy
things keep going.

882
00:51:14,000 --> 00:51:15,200
Keep going.
It's all right, so I'm going out

883
00:51:15,200 --> 00:51:16,600
there.
Listen to this knows what you're

884
00:51:16,600 --> 00:51:18,800
talking about.
They hold a route to rear end of

885
00:51:18,808 --> 00:51:19,900
the car.
Okay.

886
00:51:20,500 --> 00:51:23,500
So I You're kind of, right?
They I'm just looking at the

887
00:51:23,500 --> 00:51:25,900
picture of the car and I'm like,
this little bumps of will back

888
00:51:25,900 --> 00:51:33,400
bumps back home but look okay.
Oh goodness.

889
00:51:33,500 --> 00:51:36,700
Okay, so he was in the same race
as Estridge.

890
00:51:37,300 --> 00:51:41,100
Um, that you got as far as got a
little trunk with other razor.

891
00:51:41,200 --> 00:51:46,600
So, but McHenry lost control of
the car and struck a tree.

892
00:51:46,900 --> 00:51:50,000
Okay?
And he died in this is to be the

893
00:51:50,000 --> 00:51:52,700
only actual death caused by
parts of the car.

894
00:51:53,700 --> 00:51:56,700
Okay?
So I did all spooky that

895
00:51:56,700 --> 00:51:59,200
something that's get to that,
okay?

896
00:51:59,400 --> 00:52:05,600
George Barris Like I said
before, don't be haunted by

897
00:52:05,600 --> 00:52:08,300
James T ha ha.
No, that would actually be

898
00:52:08,300 --> 00:52:12,500
Justice that but um like I said
before, he a customized some

899
00:52:12,500 --> 00:52:16,300
cars in a Rebel Without a Cause
And self looping King customer

900
00:52:16,300 --> 00:52:19,400
customizers.
He had bought the wreck of the

901
00:52:19,408 --> 00:52:25,500
chassis from Estridge.
So he announced Bears, he

902
00:52:25,500 --> 00:52:29,500
announces that, he's going to
rebuild a little bastard but

903
00:52:31,400 --> 00:52:34,500
that that, that that That was
too much for him.

904
00:52:35,400 --> 00:52:39,400
It was like, it was a freaking,
it was a wreck, the chassis of

905
00:52:39,400 --> 00:52:43,300
the pensive and time-consuming
like no.

906
00:52:44,000 --> 00:52:47,000
Like the chassis one is total
and is like Crush.

907
00:52:47,000 --> 00:52:50,400
Like that is like it has
basically a says, it has no

908
00:52:50,400 --> 00:52:52,700
Integra grow.
Okay, strength.

909
00:52:53,100 --> 00:52:58,100
So instead embarrass the site to
weld and looms, cheats sheet

910
00:52:58,100 --> 00:53:02,100
metal, over the cave in front
fender and a cockpit area.

911
00:53:02,300 --> 00:53:03,800
Okay.
Okay, he proceeded to beat one,

912
00:53:03,800 --> 00:53:05,500
aluminum panels with a
two-by-four.

913
00:53:05,800 --> 00:53:09,100
Let's try to simulate what would
appear to be a compliment

914
00:53:09,400 --> 00:53:12,500
collision damage, so kind of
gross.

915
00:53:12,700 --> 00:53:16,600
So he is, so he like tried led
to try and rebuild it, but he

916
00:53:16,607 --> 00:53:20,300
tried to rebuild it like, it
looked like it was an accident.

917
00:53:20,300 --> 00:53:25,500
Oh, that's kind of gross.
Yeah, yeah, this is a, this is

918
00:53:25,500 --> 00:53:28,900
pretty bad.
He basically bought the car,

919
00:53:28,900 --> 00:53:33,000
just the show it off and try to
make money and get some This is

920
00:53:33,008 --> 00:53:36,200
complicity from it.
Yeah, I mean, can you imagine

921
00:53:36,200 --> 00:53:38,700
what was the same Paul Walker?
Somebody buying Paul Walker's

922
00:53:38,700 --> 00:53:41,100
car?
Like, I'm going to show you the

923
00:53:41,100 --> 00:53:45,100
car exactly, as it looked when
it hit the pole, that's really

924
00:53:45,100 --> 00:53:46,600
kind of awful.
That's messed up.

925
00:53:46,600 --> 00:53:49,800
This is all messed up.
So then he'll up the, he went to

926
00:53:49,800 --> 00:53:52,500
cards to the Los Angeles,
chapter of the national Safety

927
00:53:52,500 --> 00:53:55,100
Council for a local Rod and
Custom.

928
00:53:55,100 --> 00:54:02,300
So during 1957 and 1959, the
exhibit was toward and various

929
00:54:02,300 --> 00:54:03,800
Raw.
And custom car shows.

930
00:54:03,900 --> 00:54:05,800
Okay?
Movie, theaters, bowling alleys,

931
00:54:05,800 --> 00:54:08,800
highway, safety, displays all
throughout California.

932
00:54:10,000 --> 00:54:15,100
So various is believed to be the
creator of the Miss behind

933
00:54:15,100 --> 00:54:17,500
little bastard.
Okay, so they think he made this

934
00:54:17,500 --> 00:54:20,400
up so the means to make money.
Yes.

935
00:54:21,100 --> 00:54:24,100
Well, that probably takes away
some of the excitement of the

936
00:54:24,100 --> 00:54:25,200
story.
I know.

937
00:54:25,200 --> 00:54:28,000
I'm sorry.
But let me get to some of the

938
00:54:28,300 --> 00:54:31,500
creepy tells that he's told in
some of the creepy tales that

939
00:54:31,500 --> 00:54:33,200
may or may not happen.
Okay.

940
00:54:33,300 --> 00:54:39,500
Okay so I got this information
from comment over Hollywood.

941
00:54:40,600 --> 00:54:46,000
So it says, Bears had two tires
from The Spider and sodium, the

942
00:54:46,008 --> 00:54:49,900
tires, apparently, both blew out
simultaneously, sighing, you can

943
00:54:49,900 --> 00:54:52,200
layer, I can I speak
simultaneously.

944
00:54:52,300 --> 00:54:56,200
There you go, words causing the
new tire owners cards.

945
00:54:56,200 --> 00:55:01,800
Turn off the road which isn't
that crazy of a story because

946
00:55:01,800 --> 00:55:04,300
they're older tires.
Exactly.

947
00:55:05,200 --> 00:55:06,700
That had been an accident.
Okay.

948
00:55:06,700 --> 00:55:11,100
See.
This is so not a spook Brian.

949
00:55:11,200 --> 00:55:15,300
It's it's a myth.
Yes, I agree.

950
00:55:15,300 --> 00:55:17,500
This is a mess.
Let's see.

951
00:55:18,300 --> 00:55:21,300
So bears are kept a Porsche and
two, people try to steal Parts.

952
00:55:21,700 --> 00:55:26,500
Bears said, one of the see the
suspects arms, torn completely

953
00:55:26,500 --> 00:55:29,500
open, trying to steal the
steering wheel and the other was

954
00:55:29,500 --> 00:55:32,900
injured trying to remove the
blood staining tart own seat.

955
00:55:32,900 --> 00:55:37,500
Okay, so now that feels a little
Christina Yes, yes, I loved

956
00:55:37,500 --> 00:55:40,000
Christine.
That's why the car going.

957
00:55:40,100 --> 00:55:42,500
I did the car thing because, you
know, Christine, okay?

958
00:55:42,500 --> 00:55:44,600
I don't think that Christina was
like that me and yeah, they're

959
00:55:44,600 --> 00:55:51,100
me get that.
Um, and 1959 little bastard was

960
00:55:51,100 --> 00:55:54,500
put on display by the California
Highway Patrol for safety

961
00:55:54,500 --> 00:55:59,000
exhibit supposably the patrol.
Garage that house the Porsche

962
00:55:59,000 --> 00:56:04,000
caught on fire, according to the
death of James Dean by one

963
00:56:04,000 --> 00:56:06,200
newton.
Okay so book.

964
00:56:06,400 --> 00:56:10,300
Yes.
So wherever the cart was stored.

965
00:56:10,300 --> 00:56:12,500
I guess the the warehouse caught
on fire.

966
00:56:12,900 --> 00:56:15,100
That was actually true.
Okay.

967
00:56:15,100 --> 00:56:17,200
Yeah.
The the cause of the fire.

968
00:56:17,600 --> 00:56:20,000
Oh no, that's cool.
Yeah.

969
00:56:20,600 --> 00:56:24,600
Okay.
And supposedly the poor spider

970
00:56:25,000 --> 00:56:28,900
was being transported when a
driver of the truck and truck

971
00:56:28,900 --> 00:56:33,200
that was Towing the Porsche lost
control the driver, apparently

972
00:56:33,200 --> 00:56:35,500
fell to truck.
It was crushed by the Porsche

973
00:56:35,600 --> 00:56:39,700
when it fell off the back of the
car also fell all vehicles

974
00:56:39,700 --> 00:56:42,800
during other transports so it
would never stay still.

975
00:56:43,100 --> 00:56:45,400
Okay.
Yeah so none of these claims

976
00:56:45,400 --> 00:56:49,300
have been corroborate except for
the fact that every time it was

977
00:56:49,300 --> 00:56:53,900
stored somewhere that place
caught on fire, the fire and the

978
00:56:53,900 --> 00:56:57,900
death of McHenry, okay?
Those are only two otherwise

979
00:56:58,600 --> 00:57:03,300
it's big we're speculating that
maybe Bears head Maybe

980
00:57:03,300 --> 00:57:07,000
exaggerated a little bit on his
first car.

981
00:57:07,900 --> 00:57:11,000
All right.
And like I'm not going to get

982
00:57:11,000 --> 00:57:18,300
too much into the Bears stuff
but there's been some I guess,

983
00:57:18,300 --> 00:57:21,800
blow back towards him.
Of course there would be because

984
00:57:21,800 --> 00:57:25,300
of this in just like, and he's
like, you're so creepy.

985
00:57:25,400 --> 00:57:26,800
Yes, exactly.
Is it.

986
00:57:26,800 --> 00:57:28,700
Okay, so is the car still
around?

987
00:57:29,800 --> 00:57:34,100
I believe.
Okay, so this is another report.

988
00:57:34,600 --> 00:57:39,500
Could you go and see it?
I don't like gonna do a Google

989
00:57:40,000 --> 00:57:44,200
Google it, but um, beerus is
he's also stated that the car

990
00:57:44,200 --> 00:57:46,600
has disappeared from him as
well.

991
00:57:47,900 --> 00:57:53,500
And some and has not been found.
Hmm.

992
00:57:53,500 --> 00:57:56,500
Okay, so it's not around.
Yeah, I'll boo.

993
00:57:56,900 --> 00:58:00,100
I know you can't go to a museum
and see it or sealant or nothing

994
00:58:00,100 --> 00:58:01,600
like that.
I just thought maybe go to a

995
00:58:01,607 --> 00:58:05,300
museum.
Let's see, let's see Paul.

996
00:58:05,300 --> 00:58:10,400
Walker's car know you're right.
That is so awful.

997
00:58:12,000 --> 00:58:17,300
But the the dark McCallum and
yes I know know it's like going

998
00:58:17,300 --> 00:58:21,800
to looks like okay there's that
whole Titanic Museum that in

999
00:58:21,800 --> 00:58:25,000
that boat and they have things
that they got from the Titanic

1000
00:58:25,000 --> 00:58:26,200
which they shouldn't really
have.

1001
00:58:26,200 --> 00:58:28,000
Because most of that stuff's
supposed to be at the bottom of

1002
00:58:28,000 --> 00:58:31,700
the ocean still.
But whatever that in a moment

1003
00:58:32,000 --> 00:58:35,800
Museum, the mummer's museums
that was called in Philadelphia.

1004
00:58:36,000 --> 00:58:41,800
Oh you mean the the Museum of
the College of Physicians The M,

1005
00:58:41,800 --> 00:58:45,100
what is it called?
Mutter mutters matter Museum.

1006
00:58:45,100 --> 00:58:48,200
It's the first car Mummers.
It's called the College of

1007
00:58:48,200 --> 00:58:52,400
Physicians of Philadelphia.
That's the one that has the soap

1008
00:58:52,400 --> 00:58:53,700
lady.
I love that.

1009
00:58:54,600 --> 00:58:57,500
Well yes, she's the lady who
they found in the mass grave in

1010
00:58:57,500 --> 00:58:59,300
Philadelphia and her body turned
into soap.

1011
00:58:59,300 --> 00:59:02,400
Yes, it was lovely.
It's just a big blue blob.

1012
00:59:04,000 --> 00:59:07,300
I was so enamored with that when
I was younger and I couldn't

1013
00:59:07,300 --> 00:59:11,000
wait to go to the Mutter Museum
and I was just like, it's the

1014
00:59:11,000 --> 00:59:14,800
big blue but interestingly
enough, they did an x-ray and an

1015
00:59:14,800 --> 00:59:16,300
x-ray MRI.
Hmm.

1016
00:59:16,400 --> 00:59:18,200
Recently.
And her skeleton is in there,

1017
00:59:18,200 --> 00:59:20,700
really?
Yeah, it is overheating into

1018
00:59:20,700 --> 00:59:25,500
the, it's still there.
They also used to have a, what's

1019
00:59:25,500 --> 00:59:27,300
that guy?
Who's the Russian?

1020
00:59:27,900 --> 00:59:29,800
He was like, they thought he was
a wizard.

1021
00:59:30,300 --> 00:59:33,100
Rasputin, yes, they had his
penis for a while.

1022
00:59:33,700 --> 00:59:34,600
Really.
Yep.

1023
00:59:34,600 --> 00:59:35,900
It's back in Russia.
Now though.

1024
00:59:36,000 --> 00:59:37,600
It's still weird.
That that's the thing that

1025
00:59:37,600 --> 00:59:40,800
people want to see, look and
strangely.

1026
00:59:40,800 --> 00:59:43,800
I would like to see it if you
got it, I want to see it.

1027
00:59:44,700 --> 00:59:46,500
It's just like, it's just a
magical.

1028
00:59:47,600 --> 00:59:52,200
Yes, he's a wizard.
You're a wizard Harry.

1029
00:59:56,100 --> 01:00:01,100
All right, babe, that's the
story of James Dean in the curse

1030
01:00:01,100 --> 01:00:04,000
of Miss class size curse of
little bastard.

1031
01:00:04,400 --> 01:00:07,700
All right, well, thank you so
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1032
01:00:08,000 --> 01:00:11,300
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1033
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1037
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1038
01:00:26,600 --> 01:00:30,500
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Yes, very first podcast, right.

1039
01:00:30,500 --> 01:00:34,200
One again, if you want more
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1040
01:00:34,200 --> 01:00:36,900
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1041
01:00:36,900 --> 01:00:39,600
I post every single day.
And I do lives multiple times a

1042
01:00:39,600 --> 01:00:43,900
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1043
01:00:43,900 --> 01:00:46,100
he doesn't post a whole lot.
I'm trying to make him do that.

1044
01:00:46,800 --> 01:00:49,300
Tell more spooky stories.
I have the voice for I don't

1045
01:00:49,300 --> 01:00:50,600
Tick.
Tock crucial Brian.

1046
01:00:53,700 --> 01:00:55,700
There you go.
I've got okay.

1047
01:00:55,700 --> 01:00:59,500
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1048
01:00:59,500 --> 01:01:03,200
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1049
01:01:03,200 --> 01:01:06,500
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1050
01:01:06,500 --> 01:01:09,600
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1051
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